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wow! lucky bugger, he'll be able to afford to buy a new hat now!!

Strange to find that nugget in the gardens, the most unlikely of place.

I think you'd be very frowned upon digging up Hagley Park, you'd probably get beaten to death with a stick if you tried to detect in Queenstown Gardens digging holes everywhere by the gardeners.

 

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Join the garden club and tell them your detector is a pH wand that tells you the best place to plant a flower. Every time you dig a coin, etc. plant a flower

..You will have to educate them on the necessity of removing the coin or ring because it may impinge upon the growth of the new flower..🌹🌞

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51 minutes ago, phrunt said:

I think you'd be very frowned upon digging up Hagley Park, you'd probably get beaten to death with a stick if you tried to detect in Queenstown Gardens digging holes everywhere by the gardeners.

 

As you would have seen, he dug out a plug & then reinstated it. It was like he had never been there. That is a must do practise in parks or public areas like that. Other wise, yes, you would be banned & so to would all detecting. I think some get permission. I know some schools just forbid detecting on their grounds. There are always the minority that stuff it for the majority. The majority usually practise good, tidy & neat backfilling. You have to.

JW :smile:   

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I dug a couple of plugs in my backyard when I was practicing digging up various things, the grass where I dug them died, maybe I did them too shallow, I have no idea.

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Plugging requires  grass that tolerates such activity, plenty of water and proper technique...otherwise you will end up with dead spots.  Here in the Western USA the skunks and some other animals will come through and dig up the plugs, hoping for a morsel or two.

nice gold!

fred

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1 hour ago, fredmason said:

Plugging requires  grass that tolerates such activity, plenty of water and proper technique...otherwise you will end up with dead spots.  Here in the Western USA the skunks and some other animals will come through and dig up the plugs, hoping for a morsel or two.

nice gold!

fred

Hey!  I resemble that remark!  Ha!  GaryC/Oregon Coast

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5 hours ago, fredmason said:

Here in the Western USA the skunks and some other animals will come through and dig up the plugs, hoping for a morsel or two.

Hi Fred, I have the same problem here in NZ with rabbits. I dig up the farmers paddock, always backfill & stomp down the dirt/gravels. If there is grass I put that back on top. I then see in passing at latter times that the bloody rabbits have dug them back out again.🤬 I get all embarrassed, guilty & shamed hoping the farmer hasn't seen them & go fill them in again. He has noticed them but seems ok about it as re realises I do what I do & he knows it is the rabbits. He has just done a 1080 poison carrot drop. Shooters can't keep up with the rabbits. Some years are worse than others. This was a particularly bad year for rabbits. Cheers.

Good luck out there

JW :smile:

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I want to wake up to a crappy morning and have it turn Golden so bad...  Thanks for sharing JW and wish the gent a few pints...well deserved.

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47 minutes ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

I want to wake up to a crappy morning and have it turn Golden so bad...  Thanks for sharing JW and wish the gent a few pints...well deserved.

Thanks Gerry. Was his detector a CTX 3030? I wasn't too sure. Didn't get a good look at it in the vid. Cheers

Best of luck out there

JW :smile:

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      I packed my Equinox 800 with both coils, T2 with Mars Tiger and GPX 4500 with NF Evo 14x9 for the trip anticipating a lot of metal detecting opportunities.
      The first week was very busy skiing, we had perfect weather with the only rainfall I can remember happened overnight one night which caused a dump of about 12 inches of fresh snow over the ski fields so we can hardly complain about that. 
      After the snow storm the Avalanche risk went up significantly and due to all the extra snow they extended the ski season another couple of weeks.  This was a bit disappointing but good at the same time as I was waiting for the ski fields to close as I've had good luck finding coins under the lifts last season.

      Considerable avalanche risk, we did see the leftovers of an avalanche the next morning but I didn't have my phone with me to take a photo.  It could be one the ski field caused as they bomb the hillside overnight sometimes if they think there is a big risk.

      My wife didn't really like all the extra snow the morning after the overnight dump as they hadn't yet groomed it so the ski field was a bit wild.  However by the next day it was all back to it's usual self.

      I went metal detecting most nights to the beach front of the lake.  I was digging up a lot of coins, mostly modern coins but a few really old NZ coins and a number of foreign coins, mostly American and British coins but some odd looking coins that I suspect are Asian.

      A couple of American coins and a British pound, I ended up finding a few pounds as they came up the same VDI numbers as NZ Gold Coins. 

      Some old NZ coins.  I got quite a few of these, most of them come from where the water meets the land on the lake, whereas most other coins were always further up on the beach.


      Some more unusual coins and an old 1810 necklace bit of bling.  It's some religious thing about Mary.  The ring I suspect is just junk and that was my first Australian gold coin of many more to come.  The funny shaped coin is an old Queenstown Gondola Coin.  I don't know much about it or why they have coins. 


      One of the many American dimes I found.
      I was fortunate enough to find 5 rings on the trip, one of which is a Lord of the Rings gold ring which appears to be worth quite a bit of money, it weighs 15 grams and after doing my research it appears to be the 14k gold ring as it weighs approx 15 grams.  They don't put gold hallmarks on the rings unless the purchaser requests it to keep it authentic to the movie.  Also it has the engraving on the inside and outside which costs more, it seems it's possibly worth $2,654 NZD
      https://www.jenshansen.co.nz/collections/movie-rings/products/yellow-gold-elvish-love-ring


      This was the nights take when I found the Gold Ring

      I called it early after finding the ring to go back to my Poptop Caravan to tell my wife of my find.   This started to get her and my daughter interested in trying detecting so the next day we hit the lakefront in a quiet area where no people were during the daytime

      It was only about 30 minutes after my wife took this photo my daughter decided to take her Go-Find 40 onto the rocks in the background, neither of us were paying attention as my wife was on my T2 and I was on the Nox detecting around and she took a tumble and landed in the water, the Go-Find was submerged but she quickly turned it off and ran over and said what happened.  I was pleased she turned it off quickly and had no idea how she knew to even do that but I took the batteries out of it and we jumped in the car with it hanging out the car window to dry it out, then we went back to the Caravan and put it in a plastic bag with about a kilo of rice in it and left it overnight.  By morning I was game to try turn it on so I put in the batteries and fired it up, worked a treat, no issues at all.
      The next day after skiing my wife wanted to try metal detecting again so we went to another quiet section of the lakefront, these were the finds that day 



      I like the coin with the dude with the glasses, no idea what country it is but I know if I wore glasses and was going to be put on a coin I'd be throwing on some contact lenses 🙂
      My wife got a couple of NZ gold coins with the T2 and also the little silver ring that's a bit buckled up, I straightened it up as good as I could as it was worse than that originally.  I found the dolphin ring with the Equinox, it came up solid numbers which was a surprise as I'm sure at some point I'd seen a video of someone finding a similar ring which was a bit wild on the numbers due to the two dolphins and the way they join.  My daughter never did find anything with the Go-Find but that's no surprise, it's hard to use a detector without VDI numbers in a place that has so many bottle tops and pull tabs as you spend all your time digging them.


      This was my next night detect on the lakefront, I got quite a lot of older coins that night as I'd already mostly cleaned up that area other nights of the modern gold coins.

      The view from the lakefront where most detecting took place.
      I found two cell phones on the night detects, one I didn't get a photo of as my daughter claimed it for a toy but it was an I-Phone 5 with a smashed screen, it works fine but wants a password to get into it.  The other phone is a Chinese android phone and also works fine although it also has a broken screen.  Both phones were buried in the lakefront gravel.


      I ended up finding 4 sets of keys but didn't bother with photos of junk.

      One of the two ski fields finally closed as they didn't have enough staff to stay open with a majority of the staff being from overseas and they had already booked flights to the Northern hemisphere for working at the Ski fields there.  The snow was getting pretty thin on the lower part of the mountain where the beginners area is also which would have forced the close.  We drove on up and all three of us gave detecting on the beginners magic carpet area a go.  We picked this area as beginners fall over the most and are most likely to lose coins falling over 🙂  My daughter lost interest pretty quick and ended up reading books on her kindle most of the day.




      The Equinox was getting some gold coins at stupid depths, I wasn't able to get photos as my phone was flat and charging isn't easy when you are in an unpowered camping area and your Caravans battery goes flat, mainly because I forgot to charge it before we left so it just had charge leftover from last summer.
      I am sure I was digging gold coins in snow at about 45 cm sometimes, way deeper than I can get in air tests, I can't understand why this happened, the Nox just liked the snow and ice.
      Here was the take from the day, the $10 note was just sitting there in some melting snow.

      We then went up for another ski for our final day at the other ski field which extended another week, no doubt using some staff from the one that closed as they're both owned by the same company.

      This is how it looked first thing in the morning, pretty neat with the clouds below.  The drive back down later in the day was just as nice, KiwiJW's house is just out of view to the left in this photo.  I couldn't get a photo of his spot as a lump in the mountainside got in the way blocking the view of his area from where I parked.

      The next day was showing my daughter some gold mining history in the area by taking her to old chinese gold miners huts

      They are pretty cool to see, I detected for a bit in the area but the black sand was too much for the Equinox and I had to block out VDI's -9 to 10 to get it running stable so gold was going to be out of the question, I think I only found one coin.
      It snowed a bit on us, but nothing too major on the ground, it all mostly landed up higher

      The next day was skiing again but JW sent me a message asking if we wanted to come over for a BBQ, my wife had a friend visiting so that seemed a great excuse for me to escape that and go visit JW so off I went, and to my surprise he had his Jet boat ready to go for a spin so off we went, really awesome fun, love the little thing, it goes like a rocket. We went for an hour or more but it was  starting to get dark so we had to head back, the water was so clear even in the really deep bits you could see the bottom perfectly.  I took too long to decide to get a video so it was starting to get dark when I took it.
      Another day came and a rainbow formed over the area where JW's taken me before to find some nuggets so I went off with the Nox and 6" to try find more nuggets high up in the workings above the creek.


      This is my favourite sluicing creek where we parked up our Caravan
      I ended up never finding the workings and got myself quite lost in the dense bush above the creek, it was starting to get dark and I was hoping to make it out before dark.  I eventually found my way down to the creek and got myself out of there.  I did find lots of old stacked rocks and detected around them but had no luck on the gold.

      Another day came and another message from JW asking if we wanted to pop in for a BBQ, this was the last day of our trip and my Dad's Birthday so the BBQ was once again out which is unfortunate but I did manage to get to visit as the ski field had to close as the road up to it had far too much ice from a big freeze overnight.  My daughter was very upset as she misses the last day of skiing for the season so my wife took her 10 pin bowling and to a movie as an alternative source of fun while I visited JW.
      The weather cleared up about midday so we went detecting with JW on his Zed and me on my 4500, JW managed to score 7 bits and I continued my skunk getting nothing.  I was really struggling with hot rocks in this location digging about 50 of the damn things, they gave me a good signal so I kept digging them, some of them tiny, the size of a small nugget.  I was getting annoyed at the things and couldn't work out how to ground balance them out.  I guess I have to learn the different sound they make on the GPX over gold as at my ability level I just have to dig everything.
      Our total finds from the trip, a majority with the Equinox but my wife managed about $10 of it with the T2.

       I promised my daughter earlier in the trip she could keep all the gold coins I found expecting to find about $20, I was wrong, We ended up finding just under $150 in modern coinage so she bought herself a tablet with the money, big smiles!!!

      Disclaimer : This post is probably full of errors and the days all mixed up, I'll fix it when I get time, still unpacking and sorted stuff out from the trip 
       
    • By kiwijw
      Hi Guys, I am giving this its own thread as I think it deserves its own separate topic. It started with a Reply to Jim_Alaska's Query on my Continued On From My Previous Gold Finds post.
      Jim_Alaska Posted yesterday at 04:24 AM
      “JW, the gold in your pictures seems to be water worn. Is it glacial gold or was there once a river at the height you were working that slope?”
       
      kiwijw Posted yesterday at 01:46 PM...
      Hi Jim, It is a tricky one. Most definitely was a glacial valley & with more than one advance.This particular valley was just one finger of this massive glacier that buried the countryside for many thousands of feet with just the rugged mountain tops protruding above the ice. Evidenced by there jagged rugged peaks as opposed to just below them the ice grounded & smoothed styrated mountain sides. There is a river way down below. That river is believed to have not used to have been there & is fairly recent geologically speaking. The glacial lake that now flows out through that river used to flow out many many miles way further south at what is now the southern end of Lake Wakatipu. Possibly the last major advance of the glacier pushed up a terminal moraine, like a giant bulldozer blade of ice pushing material ahead of it. Effectively blocking off this glacial river draining system like a natural earth, rocks & boulders, dam. Today the main highway passes through the boulder field of massive rocks & debry that was pushed & carried many many miles & traveling on the ice. And then literally just dumped when the ice retreated & melted away never to advance again. Dropping these massive rocks to the ground. A lot of these rocks are very foreign to the local geological makeup of the surrounding mountains. Having come from a long way back. These foreign rocks are known as erratics. I know Jim that you will have an understanding of all this but I am being a bit more thorough in my description for those that don't.
      After traveling this highway a bit further it climbs up & over the moraine & then drops down into, across & up the other side of this now cut off & dried up riverbed. You can see it as plain as day. Even one not up to play with what has gone on will recognize it as an old river despite that it has grass growing in it now. Well sort of among the rocks & gravels. The banks are still there & the dried up river trough "flows" & winds its way down this glacial valley, although very wide,  for miles. The road still passing through older boulder fields & moraines. About the same time as this last advance that blocked off this river, give or take a few hundred or thousand years geologically speaking, it is believed there was a major event that ripped open the ground in this valley where I have been detecting that caused this "new" river & the present day out let for the lake. This major event affected & changed many other land drainage localities in the Otago region. In some cases draining massive lakes. Along with mountain building, land upheaval, faulting & folding, subsidence & glaciation, Otago is a tortured landscape like no other. Bearing in mind that the Southern Alps, from which these glaciers flowed from, are caused by the collision zone of the pacific tectonic plate with the Indo Australian plate.  
      Getting back to your initial comment. Yes the gold is very alluvial. All the Queenstown area gold & most of Otago gold is very alluvial no matter where you find it. Could be 5 thousand feet up on top of a mountain plateau or any where up & along the flanks. No present day river or water for miles. No sign of water worn rocks or debris. Glacial debris....yes....tell tale alluvial river worn material.....no not always up in the hills except in present day rivers. Maybe glacial melt water river/creek type "alluvial" material. But they aren't as rounded & water worn in a lot of cases as a lot of that material is just ruble & debri that got carried on the glacial ice & not pounded & rolled like river material does. The Glacially carried material just being dropped when the ice melted away & only subjected to the dying glaciers melt water forming a river  to give it an alluvial worn look. Until there was no melt water left & the river dried up. I am talking up in the hills & higher areas not the valley floors that carry present day rivers. I guess I am theorising in my own head trying to work it out. I know over the years I have given up but it still intrigues me. Possibly the alluvial gold that is now way up in the hills was deposited by river systems that no longer exist. That the glaciers came & wiped out the the rivers alluvial gravels & material. Leaving the gold buried down in the schist where I am finding it. The land also being pushed up to the heights it is now.
      The higher sides of this valley I have been detecting in & where this"new" river now flows out from the lake has two hugely major gold bearing rivers flowing into it. The Shotover river, known in the early gold rush days as the richest river in the world, & running parallel & separated by a ridge line, the Arrow River. In turn these two rivers had hard rock gold mines developed near their heads. These loads being only a shadow of what they must have been to have released the amount of gold they did. On Lake Wakatipu, a glacial lake, all the gold deposits & loads are on this northern side going back to the lakes head. Nothing on the other side of the lake. The stamper battery & crushing plant being the glaciers which would have filled these side valleys of the gold bearing creeks & rivers of today flowing into the lake from the north & the Shotover & Arrow rivers flowing into this now "new" river that drains the present lake. The signs are there that the lake was much bigger & the water level much higher than today. Possibly held back by massive moraines until this major event happened & erosion from the lakes release cut through & washed the moraine away. Leaving pockets of lateral moraine & glacial silt deposits which are in there own right massive & obvious.
       https://www.doc.govt.nz/Documents/about-doc/concessions-and-permits/conservation-revealed/wakatipu-landscapes-lowres.pdf
      I have gotten carried away again.  I may even add to this.
      Good luck out there
      JW
      kiwijw Posted yesterday at 05:14 PM
      I have included this link of the Ree's & Dart track. More so just for the photos but it is an enjoyable read nonetheless. These two rivers enter at the very head of Lake Wakatipu & there headwaters were the source of this once immense glacier. The Dart glacier just a small Remanent & one of many now smaller glacier remnants up in the mountains heads. The photos of the Dart Glacier show what I was talking about with the rock debris sitting on top of the ice & just going along for the ride & just being dropped when the ice melted away. I have also included it to show just how very similar the glacial countryside is to what Steve has been sharing with us on his Chisana & Gold Hill post. Virtually identical. Enjoy.
      https://www.gang-gang.net/nomad/NZ/NZ34.htm
      JW 
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