Jump to content
MidTN

Question About My Ace 400

Recommended Posts

Went out yesterday and the unit was hitting between 85 - 90 in relics mode.  After digging I found part of a wire fence and beer cans. I'm I missing something the  machine is telling me?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Unfortunately that is normal with many detectors. Metal detectors work best on coin size type targets. Certain large steel items can read like coins. Washers, hardened steel bolts, flat sheet steel, and yes, fence wire can all tend to give high coin readings.

The reality is these type targets are usually giving off both low and high signals. However, many detectorists block / reject / notch out the low end iron signals. This lets only the high tone portion of the signal sound off. The key often is to make sure you engage the iron portion of the signal so you hear both the high and low tones.

 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

yup, just part of detecting that you'll get used to, on the Equinox an entire beer can comes up as the exact same number as a NZ $2 coin  and you'd be surprised how many beer cans I've dug up thinking woohooo a coin for my daughters money box.  She gets all the coins I find, I'm trying to spark her interest in detecting :laugh: 

The target ID numbers are just possible indicators, they aren't guarantees and lots of objects fall into the same space but in saying that they are extremely useful as they do narrow it down quite a bit.  The other problem is although Target ID's can be very accurate if the target is in an ideal range once out of that the numbers are incorrect, an example is gold nuggets can come up as iron so you really need to decide how much digging you want to do to get the results.

I'm not far off being new to detecting myself and I found it extremely advantageous to dig every single blip/beep/pop/squeak that my detector did as it really helps you learn your detector and what it's telling you.  As you gain more experience you can cut the digging back a bit but I firmly believe it's the best way to get started and you will be surprised that sometimes you'll dig up something good that you expected was going to be junk.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah, I have the Ace 400 as well and know your pain. Not wanting to repeat what the others have said, but keep digging those signals and something good will turn up.

That being said, I don't think I've ever pulled anything of any real value out of the ground that came up over 90. I would get excited as h#ll and end up pulling out a big piece of iron, like a plow blade or a giant steel bolt.

In my seven or so months when I used the Ace 400, everything of value (silver coins, jewlery, ect) came up in the 80 range. This is just my experince though 😉

-Bill

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bit late on this one but I was watching this video on the Ace 350 in action showing how it reacts on various targets in various situations.  I enjoyed the video.  I was watching it as I plan to take my daughter coin hunting and shes going to be using the Euroace (Ace 350 European version) on the hunt instead of her Minelab Go-Find 40 which has very minimal information relating to targets, only 4 segments so it means she was put off metal detecting entirely by having to dig too much.  I'm giving her my Euroace as it will give her much more information on the targets.  I watched this video to help me understand the machine myself so I can then teach her.

You may find the video a worthwhile watch as your 400i is an improved Ace 350.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes,, Garrett ace 400i is a good detector, compared to 350-plus numeric ID,... and Iron Audio...-better separation, and identification of iron, and my observations are sufficiently sensitive and deep ...

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well I took my Garrett Euroace (Ace350) out for a coin hunt today, only for a couple of hours as I had a pretty busy day and there was a big accident with a car vs bus which killed a person from the car on the road I was going to be taking which ended up being closed most of the day from the accident so I ended up going elsewhere and went to a big park which had a bit of a sports field with it.

I've never really put any effort into my Ace, I got it as my first detector and I replaced it in my arsenal as soon as I found out it wasn't really for nugget hunting even though Garrett's marketing at the time said it finds nuggets but it sure didn't see any of my test nuggets, so then I upgraded it by buying a Nel Tornado coil for it which was marketing as seeing sub gram targets and then it did start to see sub gram nuggets within a few inches of the coil but nothing special compared to my higher frequency VLF's that came along to replace it.  Since then it's mostly been put away in the cupboard untouched.  I had no clue about metal detecting when I bought it.

Lately I've done a bit of coin hunting and thought I'd give it a go again as I want my daughter to use it rather than her Go-Find 40 as the go find only has 4 levels of discrimination so is a real pain for junk.  The Euroace I can set so virtually everything is discriminated out except our NZ $1 and $2 coins making it highly likely she'll find her first coin using it.

So today it was the only detector I took to force myself to use it to try find some coins, I had a majority of its discrimination scale blocked out aiming to try find $1 and $2 coins for the first hour and then left the areas on it's scale I knew were likely to be where rings may fall open too but had no ring success, just more coins and some junk and an older Australian coin with a sheep on it, Aussies and their sheep!!!!

It worked surprisingly well, and when I had only the notch for our gold coins as the only available target it worked brilliantly as a coin cherry picker, not one bit of junk and a number of coins.  

I took the photos when I got home after cleaning up the coins as I didn't have my phone with me to get live action shots 🙂

 20181101_172127.thumb.jpg.f17b9e33db0a4872027c40193d992c7a.jpg

20181101_172225.jpg.0253e1e335ce2b231656455152baff98.jpg20181101_172218.jpg.b87175ac465275c154e0ac56bbe87f89.jpg

All in all I'm pretty happy with how it performed and it went very deep, one of the $2 coins must of been at least 25cm down, I do think VDI numbers are much better than the notch system it uses but it's going to be perfect for a 7 year old to cherry pick gold coins.

 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, phrunt said:

there was a big accident with a car vs bus which killed a person from the car on the road I was going to be taking which ended up being closed most of the day from the accident

Another tourist in a rental car driving on the wrong side of the road:rolleyes:, up over a brow on the road, blind spot if you are on the wrong side of the road, & straight into a tour bus that was on the correct side of the road. Just happens far to often. :sad: Not that it is nice that anybody should die but usually it is the innocent driver killed, a local, & the tourist walks away with their life & flies back home to resume their life leaving behind the shattered lives of the friends & families of the innocent victim. Traggic.   

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Similar Content

    • By Cleggy
      Can I reduce the sensitivity of my GPX 5000 but still keep good depth. 
      I'll show you the problems I'm getting in this video
       
       
    • By Joe76
      In FNQ Australia, there are a number of properties you can go on & detect for gold. Most places are pay to detect & are well set up for camping with designated areas set aside for metal detecting, if you are fortunate enough to have access to private leases & cattle stations with gold bearing country even better again. Up until today, I had access to one of these private cattle stations to prospect on. Unfortunately I no longer have access, this is due to the fact there are still people doing the wrong thing while on these properties. The rubbish left behind at camp sites and open detector holes for cattle to break legs in is out of control. On top of that you got fence jumpers & poachers running a muck too. This is causing huge issues for for graziers forcing them to close the gates to everyone & in most cases getting access now, is nearly impossible. 
      I can't express in words how disappointing this is for us guys & girls who are doing the right thing, only to be told you can't detect at your favourite spot anymore because of w#%kers ruining it for everyone. So the quest for a new spot starts again....  Take only gold and memories & leave only foot prints. So we will all have somewhere to look for gold in the future!
       
       
    • By Steve H
      Found this in P.A in family farm . Looks like a broke golden arrowhead . Not sure any ideas . It's was about a foot in the ground  solid the whole way through and very heavy . 

    • By Tnsharpshooter
      https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?p=3118425#post3118425
    • By phrunt
      I was looking around the new Minelab website and I noticed they now say the Equinox is single frequency on Gold Modes, is this some sort of error or are new Equinox 800's coming without multi-IQ on their gold modes?  I found nothing wrong with MultiIQ Gold modes so I don't see why they'd change it.
      https://www.minelab.com/metal-detectors/equinox-800
      Detect Modes
      Equally adaptable for all target types and ground conditions:
      Park Field Beach Gold: Gold Mode operates the high single frequencies of either 20 kHz or 40 kHz to detect gold nuggets in mineralised soils.  
       
    • By dan_h
      Used Cherry Pick settings from the Handbook for  a brief session in a local park.  Found a penny, the handle of a spoon.  If it ever was silver plated, that is long gone.  Then found a quarter-sized disk, a token of some sort.  It says "Where a kid can be a kid" on both sides and one side was stamped OTTS.ORG.  I  just tried that website and it is apparently closed.  There was a message to the effect to leave your contact info if you have any business with this site.
       
      Question:  is there something more than the Lesche Predator but less than a shovel -- a mini shovel, perhaps?
×
×
  • Create New...