Optix Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 What is this "Coil Knock" you guys are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Slick Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 It's a false signal you get when the coil bumps into something. Could be a rock, the ground or even vegetation and crop stubble. One issue many newbie Nugget hunters do is leaving the coil cable too loosely wrapped on the lower shaft. The movement of the cable while swinging can cause false signals as the detector's coil will "see" the moving cable as a target. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen M Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I have a equinox 800 I purchased 4 months ago. I have been out with it for about 100 hours now. I have not found gold I do not know if I have settings off or just found something wrong. I am using gold mode 2 and have had like 30 targets of 12-13 in that mode. But I have not been able to find the targets or the disappear. I made a video today with the settings I use and what happened. Any help or advise would be greatly appreciated. thanks Allen M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Allen M said: Nice, I have had issues with my equinox 800 I think. I made a video of it today. I have been coming across 12-13 in gold mode 2 and have not been able to find target. Do you have a video made showing your settings. I am not sure about your iron bias. I am new with the equinox had used it about 100 hours but still have not found gold. I have gone to several locations and recently uploaded the version 3 to the Equinox. if you have any suggestions I would be in debt. I had about 30 spots today that was 12-13 on my equinox. Hi, Are you detecting in a location where gold nuggets have been found regularly by yourself or others? As I explain in the original post, I do not have “settings”, but instead have a methodology for arriving at the proper settings. The setting will vary with the location, ground minerals, trash levels, type of gold, and coil used. My iron bias normally resides at 0 unless I am forced to use more to deal with problematic ferrous items. The settings are laid out in the post and shooting a video of my control panel set to them adds nothing. 12-13 hits with nothing there are hot rocks/ground signals. There are multiple ways to go about dealing with them... modifying the ground balance, lowering the sensitivity, different single frequency options, modes other than Gold Mode, or even notching them out. The Equinox can overwhelm due to the large number of possible settings. Nugget detecting is the most difficult type of detecting you can aspire to, and if gold is lacking, then better locations are usually the answer. If you are not in a proven location then that may be the issue more than your settings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB_Amateur Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I spun my wheels (and spent plenty of travel $) until I decided to get professional, in-person instruction. Building confidence in my detector and my ability to use it, for me, was step #1. Turns out that is the easy part! Learning how and where to find gold is the graduate level course, and from what I can tell, you only get to the final exam when your days on earth are over. Through my life I've learned to appreciate the paradox: "Every rule has its exceptions." I've come to realize this is never more applicable than in finding naturally occurring gold. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexlopez Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Thanks Steve, your advice helps me to decide to buy an Equinox 800, because I have already saved all your instructions and now I will read the manual, while the detector arrives. Greetings from Venezuela, oh and I report you, here the detetocrists to deal with the magnetite, they use a magnet and every time the detector gives a signal, they pass the magnet to the ground and if it continues to sound it is gold, and if it does not emit again sound was iron or magnetite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexlopez Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 On 10/4/2020 at 5:08 PM, Allen M said: Tengo un equinoccio 800 que compré hace 4 meses. Lo he estado haciendo durante unas 100 horas. No he encontrado oro. No sé si tengo los ajustes desactivados o simplemente encontré algo mal. Estoy usando el modo dorado 2 y he tenido como 30 objetivos de 12-13 en ese modo. Pero no he podido encontrar los objetivos ni desaparecer. Hoy hice un video con la configuración que uso y lo que sucedió. Cualquier ayuda o consejo será muy apreciado. Gracias Allen M There is no gold, these things happen, I just spent three days digging land with a backhoe and passing a GPZ7000 and I did not find gold, where previous days we had grabbed 100g of gold. the gold goes by spots or by certain configurations of the terrain, you find it and it is lost again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veisal Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Hi Steve Herschbach, I have a question about what threshold level you use on the EQUINOX 800, there are instructions in the manual explained neither strongly nor weakly, but in any case at a signal the tone of the threshold is interrupted. My question is how important is the threshold for you? thank you in advance For gold mode 1-2: Frequency: Multi Ground Balance: Automatic (ground pump method with manual adjustment) Sensitivity: 16 - 25 Recovery rate 800: 4 - 6 (default is 6) Recovery rate 600: 2 - 3 (default is 3) Iron Bias: 0 Accept / Reject: Everything is accepted, count on tones (alternative rejection -9, -8 and -7 if there is too much feedback from the ground) Threshold level: ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 1:00 AM, Veisal said: My question is how important is the threshold for you? My answer from the original post in this thread. The setting depends on your hearing, and if you are using headphones, or the external speaker, plus personal preference, which is why I give no number other than the default. On 9/6/2018 at 6:31 AM, Steve Herschbach said: Threshold. The range is 1 – 25 with a default of 12. This is normally set to be just loud enough to hear, but no more. Just a barely discernible tone. However, the threshold can also act as a backend filter. Once all other tuning has been completed, the threshold can be set lower until it is silent, or set higher than normal. Running silent can suppress small variations in the ground signal but also the weakest gold signals. Running the threshold higher than normal can smooth out weak variations, again with a subsequent loss on the faintest gold signals. I will add this however. I do not consider the Equinox to have a true threshold based mode. The Gold Modes are modified discrimination modes. The threshold, to my ear, is what is called a “reference threshold” that only seems to null when rejected targets are detected. It does not however seem intimately connected to the ground signal. A true all metal threshold rises and lowers in direct response to the ground, whereas the Equinox Gold Mode threshold stays rock steady, unless going over a rejected target, in which case it nulls. In this one regard the Equinox is weak compared to a detector with a true all metal threshold based mode, and where I can eke out a tiny edge with something like the Gold Bug 2, which does have a true all metal mode. It’s a fine difference only discernible to a few, but real to me. With the Gold Bug 2, having a fine threshold let’s you hear every ground variation, and delivers the ability to find the weakest signals that stand out from the ground signal. That long answer explains to you why having the threshold at any particular level is less important to me on an Equinox than it would be with a Gold Bug 2. I still run with a faint threshold out of habit, as it does offer one tidbit in the form of rejected signals, but other than that, it’s not giving me that direct connection to the ground that a true all metal mode offers. However, it more than makes up for this, in my opinion, by offering trash and hot rock handling one does not have in a true all metal mode. The gold missed, if any, is typically the smallest gold that can be found with a metal detector, and at some point I question time spent focusing too much on targets like that, when it’s gram type nuggets that are the real bread and butter. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardPack Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Steve, Could you expand on the lack of a “true threshold” on the Equinox 800 in either Gold Mode 1 & 2. What are you listening for with the reference threshold “on” and “off” besides the blanking on rejected segments? On the Xterra 705, I use the reference threshold set at 4 with headphones in coin mode with segments -8, -6’ -4 & 48 rejected. I first sweep the area for coins while removing larger iron objects. When the reference threshold “ nulls or blanks” I switch to All metal to identify the iron… -8 & 48 hot rock, -6 small iron, -4 dig and remove. Next I switch over to Prospect Mode with true threshold set at 12 with headphones listening for the “zip zip”. Great write up on the Equinox. I also like the fine tuning. It appears be a great old mine site scouting machine. I plan to upgrade after the first of the year… that was for Gerry. Happy Holidays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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