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Detailed Review Of White's New Goldmaster 24K

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Thanks Steve, a good review! Sounds like a decent machine, especially for the price.  I've never had a detector that can use a concentric coil but sounds great.

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Thank You Steve for "making" the time to do a quick evaluation on this newcomer.
I myself have been waiting "years" for Whites to upgrade the GMT line !
I used a GMT for quite a few seasons and did very well in nuggets and meteorites with it.
Truth being over 60 small nuggets from 1 patch alone.
Next thing will be getting my hands on one to try out.
Its also very satisfiying to me to see a new "Made in the U.S.A"  entry in the Gold Specific detector field.
Hope to see you somewhere in the field this season.
Hapy Huntn.

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Great Review Steve! Lot of detail information and honest evaluation on the new 24K,  White's should put you on the payroll!

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Informative write-up Steve.  Thank you.

Question.  Is there a noticable difference/enhancement in performance with the extra voltage put to the coil with the 24k, compared to the lesser voltage of ther GMT?  

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I did not have a GMT to compare directly, and so can’t answer that question with any degree of confidence. Things get real hair splitting when detecting 1/10th grain nuggets. I still know people who think the Goldmaster 3 is better than the GMT.

I have been getting lots of messages from people who seem to think I have secret private information regarding which over 30 kHz detector is best. The truth is not much has changed since the 50 kHz Goldmaster II came out around 1990. I can drag a half dozen of these “over 30 kHz” nugget detectors out and spend hours trying to figure out which one I like best. They basically all get the job done, and none so well as to make the others not worth consideration.

It very much does boil down to what feels best on my arm and sounds best to my ear. Most importantly, which machine is best depends a lot on the exact mix of ground, hot rocks, size and type of gold, the amount of trash, and level of operator expertise. This being true I might prefer one model at one location, and a different one someplace else. This is actually almost guaranteed.

I just don’t see how anyone can make decisions like this based on anything other than getting and using the detectors in question. Sure, I could pick one for you, but you might hate it for reasons that matter not at all to me.

I think the 24K is a fine machine but my gut feeling based on memory is no, it does not automatically blow the GMT away. It’s just different, that’s all, and I have no idea whether a die hard GMT user would consider this an upgrade or not. From my perspective going from one 48 kHz detector to another 48 kHz detector is a side step. To really add capability you need machines to be as different as possible, not the same as possible. Will switching from a GMT to a 24K make a giant difference in gold getting capability? Not really. Would adding a TDI SL to a GMT extend a prospectors capability in a significant way? Much more likely.

So if I was going nugget detecting tomorrow and had to pick one, the GMT or 24K, which would it be? I honestly do not have a preference. I tend to trust the GMT more as being the “old reliable” but I did like the concentric on the 24K. Yet I have never used that coil on the GMT and it might do just as well. Gun to head I would probably go with the 24K just because it’s new and I do like the new toys. But if a GMT owner gets a 24K and says they prefer the GMT I am not going to argue with them either. If I can barely decide which machine of four I like best when they are sitting in front of me then I have to really, really sympathize with those trying to make these decisions just based on reading reviews.

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Thanks for the reply Steve.

Most of the changes/upgrades on the 24k are pretty clear, or understood with your hands on explanation, e.g. the different threshold system.

I guess I'm trying to wrap my head around the end result, or performance enhancement caused by the increase in voltage to the coil, if any?   Whites has made a point to prominently mention it as an improvement over the GMT, yet with no explanation of any benefits to be derived.

Perhaps tboykin can chime in?

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Well, I have a partial answer. I just volunteered to help Tom at the Rye Patch event on Saturday. I am sure GMTs and 24K models will both be present and so inquiring minds will have the ability to find out more this weekend!

https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/7513-rye-patch-nugget-shoot-2018-come-see-the-elephant/?do=findComment&comment=76385

 

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I really appreciate your honesty in your reviews Steve.   A manufacturer has to be pretty confident in their product to pass one onto you to review so I guess Whites are feeling pretty happy and confident with the 24k, and it does seem a decent machine but it was just released in a time when there are many choices it makes it hard to any one machine to stand out.  I really hope Whites get a good amount of sales and we start seeing a good run of finds from users of it as I'm sure it's very capable and we need new detectors to be a success, we want more competition, not less...  I can't even consider owning one with White's no longer having an NZ dealer and importing makes it not viable price wise and I guess It would have to be significantly better than what I have already to suffer the importing costs.

I hope more info comes to hand about the boosted power to the coil as with time it could prove to be the feature that makes me want one even more! 

Upon looking at the Whites 24k I notice it has a feature I do like, it sits stable on the ground.  I get really annoyed with my detectors falling over all the time.

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20 hours ago, phrunt said:

Upon looking at the Whites 24k I notice it has a feature I do like, it sits stable on the ground.  I get really annoyed with my detectors falling over all the time.

You stole my thunder. I was going to say that. ?

Steve: Great review. Unbiased, straight up & honest....as always. White's got there 10 cents worth. Even more so with you going to front up on Saturday :biggrin: Good on you. Enjoy the day. Only wish I could be there.

JW :smile: 

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