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Chase Goldman

XP Orx Compared To XP Deus

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6 minutes ago, Tnsharpshooter said:

Wonder if Xp plans  to use the new lighter rod with Deus packages in the future?

Hope so.

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58 minutes ago, Ridge Runner said:

To bring the price down on the ORX maybe it would have been best for the cable that’s ran inside keep going. Then they could plug it into the controller and forget about having a wireless coil . Like it’s been said over and over again that cable is not a problem.

 I guess one good thing they do know some of the ORX have sold . I’m counting the dealers that’s made a video on the ORX.

 I’m sure one detector company is saying keep doing what you’re doing. Our sales is at its highest point ever and as you don’t make a change it will stay that way. 

 Chuck 

In the case of Deus and ORX adding a wired coil would only INCREASE cost.  All the brains of the unit are in the coils.  That is why Deus units can be run using only the Coil and their proprietary wireless headphones.  No control box needed for actual detecting.  Most UK users only own a Deus control box so they can custom program the coil (where the custom programs are actually stored) and then they leave it in the car and detect in the fields using the headphones and coil only.  

ORX needs the control box, though.  It can't be run in the Deus lite setup, sans control box.

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1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Notice these machines have two coils for less cost than the Orx

Yep.  XP has an uphill climb to compete effectively, offering only compactness without groundbreaking performance above the crowded competition.  Like I said, if XP was offering a choice of two of their coils with ORX at that price point, it could be interesting.  Fat chance they will do that though and they would really need to add a few features back to the coin programs for more widespread adoption.  Instead of filling a market niche, they may have gotten themselves into a divot...:sad:

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Chase 

  Thanks for clarification on the coil in relation to the controller and how it works.

 I know I sound hard in respect to the ORX but if you going to include a feature don’t do it half way. If what you come out with can’t compete in price why bother?

 Chuck 

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3 hours ago, Ridge Runner said:

Chase 

  Thanks for clarification on the coil in relation to the controller and how it works.

 I know I sound hard in respect to the ORX but if you going to include a feature don’t do it half way. If what you come out with can’t compete in price why bother?

 Chuck 

Agree.  XP has been enormously successful in the UK.  The Deus design sets up very well for the type of relic and old coin hunting done there.  Similarly they tapped into the Aftican gold craze with their budget gold detecting version of the Deus.  But this ORX gambit and other forays into the US marketplace (especially how they market their products in the US) has often left me scratching my head.

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Chase Goldman  

I don’t know if you took note that when the ORX was put down the stand make in with the arm rest is about worthless. When you sit it down it comes to rest right under the grip and falls over every time. Unless you plan on carrying a table to set it on each time it’s going to fall over like a dead horse.

 I like a stand that keeps my detector upright and if it don’t I make one that will before I go out the door with it . It would be great that your high dollar detector fell over in a puddle of water while you digging a target.

 I know what’s on the inside of a detector is very important but so many times they fall short on the design outside.

 Chuck 

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11 hours ago, Ridge Runner said:

Chase Goldman  

I don’t know if you took note that when the ORX was put down the stand make in with the arm rest is about worthless. When you sit it down it comes to rest right under the grip and falls over every time. Unless you plan on carrying a table to set it on each time it’s going to fall over like a dead horse.

 I like a stand that keeps my detector upright and if it don’t I make one that will before I go out the door with it . It would be great that your high dollar detector fell over in a puddle of water while you digging a target.

 I know what’s on the inside of a detector is very important but so many times they fall short on the design outside.

 Chuck 

Frankly, due to the small form factor of the Deus/ORX, I really don't give it much thought.  It bothers me about as much as whether or not my pinpointer rolls to the side when I set it on the ground.  With a case cover on the remote, or often with no remote attached to the stem at all while in use (I keep it in my chest pocket) it really is no big deal.  You have to use one to know why I feel this way.  Different story with my more traditional detectors like the Equinox or F75.  Prefer those not tipping over.

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 I kind of like the ORX data sheet when I'm comparing it to the GoldBug 2.  I'm in the market for ultra HF elliptical and so I'm doing the weighing hands thing.  Proven performance Gold Bug 2 vs some additional versatility ORX.

I dunno.  But I'm watching.

HH
Mike

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I’m not sure why but I printed the ORX manual today . I like laying the sheets out when viewing what a detector has to offer.

 I don’t know if it has enough to offer me to buy it but could be the backup. Just what that is only my pocketbook knows.

 Chuck 

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Don't forget the excellent 5 year warranty on XP detectors - not that much goes wrong with these detectors.  Something to think about when comparing say the ORX with a waterproof competitor, as most will only offer a 2 or 3 year warranty.

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