Jump to content
goldbrick

Equinox Vs Tarsacci. Does This Equal More Nuggets?

Recommended Posts

I am copying part of a post by Badger in NH on the Dankowski forum. Will this beach performance transfer over to hot dirt and more nuggets? I don't know but this guys results are certainly interesting.

“For the depth testing I had a silver quarter, a silver dime and a medium sized mans 14k gold ring. I had drilled tiny holes in the center of the coins, ran a nylon string through each one and tied a knot on the end. This is to ensure that coins stay flat when buried. I would bury the coin at 15 inches and slowly pull the coin towards the surface a little at a time until it just came into detection range. When I reached the edge of the max depth that the coin could be detected, I grabbed the string where it came out of the sand, pulled up the coin and measured the length of the string. It worked perfectly. The gold ring is attached to the end of a fabric measuring tape. 

I tested the Tarsacci MDT 8000 against the Minelab Equinox 800. 

Settings were - 

Tarsacci - GB 600, SB 26-30 depending on Freq, Sense 7, Threshold 0, Disc 0, Mix mode. 

Equinox - Beach 1, Sense 23, 2 tones, AM on, recovery 6. 

To achieve a max depth designation, the detector must have a clear repeatable non-ferrous tone and reasonably accurate numerical ID. 

Tarsacci max depth on the silver Quarter was 13". 

Equinox was 10". 

Tarsacci max depth on the silver Dime was 12.5". 

Equinox was 9". 

(All the Tarsacci frequencies picked up the coins at max depth but 6.4 kHz sounded best.) 

Tarsacci max depth on the gold ring was 13". (All freqs picked it up but 18 kHz sounded best) 

Equinox had an iffy signal at 11" and 10" but only got a decent tone and ID at 9". 

I tried radically changing the GB number on the Tarsacci to see what that would do but came back to 600 because it got the best depth. I forgot to test Black Sand mode but will do that another time. 

So the Tarsacci wins the depth test by a large margin. I am extremely happy with it.”

Tarsacci MDT 8000 Data & Reviews

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  I value a detector comparison test over a known target only slightly more than an air test. The test does prove, however, that the Tarsacci will find coins with holes and strings tied to them buried for less than 15 minutes better than an equinox.  But it is good to see Minelab getting some strong competition.

 The real test will be to see which will withstand a day of being transported in a wildly out of control Polaris Razor.

  • Like 3
  • Haha 3
  • Oh my! 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Klunker, I probably won't ask you to drive my RZR when I have my Tarsacci in it so we should be OK. LOL

p.s. did you buy an Equinox?

Signed,

An early adopter......

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I got you a bumper sticker for the Razor...it's the closest thing I could find....

 

I_LOVE_TERIYAKI_Bumper_Sticker_300x300.jpg

  • Like 1
  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Strick, your killin me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 hours ago, alaskaseeker said:

While folks are screwing around with tests, I'm out banging in nuggets, so I say go for it, a detector is only as good as the persons research using it...hehe....

IMG_1469.JPG

Agreed, but in some conditions especially ones with extreme trash new technologies may be more helpful in picking out the good targets from digging out iron all day. I love my Minelab 4500 P.I. but all the spots I hunt now are literally full of iron..sometimes you just want to cheery pick the non ferrous. If the Tarsacci does a better job of it than other MD available I am willing to at least give it my ear.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Maybe it would be best to take a look at the cost of each detector first before doing a comparison.

 You said the Tar. got 13” on the quarter and the Nox hit it at 10”

  Let’s look at it this way the cost of the Nox is 899.00 divided by 10”= 89.90

 It cost you 89.90 per inch on the Nox to detect that quarter 

 What’s the cost of the Tar. about 1500.00

1500 divided by 13”=115.38

cost you 115,38 per inch on the Tar.

 The thing is the Tar cost lots more and for your money you should be getting more depth,

 This based on what was said the original cost of the Tar.

 Chuck 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A $20.00 gold piece at 12" would knock t' 'ell outa that theorem.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On the Dankowski forum about a month ago, 2 guys were testing a Tarsacci in the Tennessee red dirt, and it did not do well at all. 

I would wait for more testing before I would part with $1500 .  Now maybe they did not have it set up right, or the machine was defective, , or it does not do well in mineralized dirt?  It seems to do well in salt environments.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Similar Content

    • By Steve Herschbach
      Published on May 14, 2019
      “Hello all, hope you’ve all had a great weekend. We’ve just put a short video covering some of the aspects on the DeepTech Vista X together, some of the features that you’ll see in the video has been altered but we will be making a new video on these changes very soon. We’ve had so much interest in the Vista X, we put a video together as fast as possible to show some of these new features. Thank you for your patience, more information and update video on performance coming shortly. Recommended retail price: 580 Euro”

    • By Mike Hillis
      You don't see much about this one.....This is something I posted on Findmall. Still haven't got to use it in minerals yet. Its almost like my free time went up in smoke this summer and fall. I got some time off for Christmas and hopefully I'll get the chance to use it in black sand minerals and see how the tracking does in a more challaging environment. Anyway...maybe someone will find it useful........................................................

      Finally got to sneak some time in and try out my new Sierra Gold Trac (SGT). I went looking for something like this for use as a cleanup unit for some of my jewelry sites (and if I was lucky with my time, even some real prospecting). I was looking for something in higher frequency than what was being offered in the new Fisher/Teknetics or Minelab Xterra products. I looked at both the GMZ and the SGT. I picked the SGT over the GMZ because of the threshold control.

      Right after I purchased it I got buyers remorse and put it up for sale, mostly because I didn't have any free time to do more than look at it occasionally. I think Ive had it three months now before I could actually work in an hour of actual me time to use it.

      White's Sierra Gold Trac SGT metal detector
      The SGT is a 48 kHz, all metal prospecting unit with only two controls; Gain and Threshold. Ground balance is handled by an Auto Ground Tracking feature that is advertised to come right off the GMT. The stock coil is a 6x10 DD. When I was talking to Jim S. about it he told me it was just a basic stripped down GMT.

      Now I didn't take it prospecting or try it out in minerals yet as I was only able to sneak away from home and duty for an hour while my beloved was taking a nap. So I took it to a close by wood chip tot lot just to get to swing it and fool around with it, you know what I mean? I should say that the woodchips are not mineralized but the ground the wood chips sit upon is mineralized so there is some mineral for the SGT to track to. However the mineral strength varied depending on the wood chip depth.

      The detector feels good on the arm and swings nice. I could use a little longer lower rod to make it a perfect fit but it was ok. I put the Gain on 7 and raised the Threshold until I got nice quiet hum, pumped the coil a few times until the threshold hum evened out and started sweeping.

      The SGT has a VCO audio response; shallow or larger objects produce a high pitch squeal and the deeper or smaller objects produce a lower pitch tone. No, it doesn't have tone id. That is just a botched website design that is picking up some of the SST information. But the VCO tone pitch variation is helpful in sizing and depth guestimations.

      As with most all-metal operating modes, smaller targets give a good zip and larger targets give a larger tonal sound. I didn't find it difficult identifying large metal objects because of this. The preset SAT is acceptable. The retune speed isn't super fast but it isn't super slow either so you have a little time to slow down and size objects before the threshold returns to normal and I didn't observe any noticeable overshoot nulling going on.

      I did see the auto ground trac feature tracking out targets. The first sweep would give a crisp audio report, the back sweep would give a good audio report and multiple passes after that would tend to degrade the audio information significantly. This was super easy to circumvent though. When I hit a target I'd give it a nice triple sweep to pinpoint it under the best part of the coil, then just place the coil off to the side, do a quick double pump to bring the auto track setting back to ground and then move back over the target. That gave me enough time to not only get another couple of good audio feedback sweeps in but also enough time to do the pinpoint wiggle with the toe of the coil to pinpoint with. If for some reason I wasn't happy, I'd move the coil off to the side and double pump the tracking back to ground and have another go at it. Wasn't really a big deal after I got going and understood what was happening. And I didn't get very many targets to track completely out but I could get them to the point of a very degraded, crappy sounding signal.

      Toward the end of my time out I was experimenting with the tracking out responses to see if I could get it to track out on the small ferrous like the little staples I was recovering while keeping the non-ferrous with a better audio however I didn't have enough time to make a significant determination about it and I'll continue to experiment with it.

      The adjustable threshold control was a bonus as I hunted with it a little at minimum setting (totally quiet) and a little time with it maxed out as well as at the normal light hum setting. I think there is some functionality there between the threshold control and the auto track target tracking that could be useful. I'll need some more time on it to see and that hasn't happened yet.

      Overall I enjoyed hunting with it. I will say a magnet stick is a must have as all the little ferrous will give a good signal and since there is no discrimination, that little staple has to be recovered. I just stuck a magnet into the end of my scoop and when I got a good zip, I used the magnet first, and if the magnet did not retrieve it I knew I had a non-ferrous object.
      I didn't find anything to be excited about during this hour, other than the fact I got out and found I liked the Sierra Gold Trac and I'm not in such a hurry to part with it now that I've used it.

      There was some things that I had trouble with. First the coil connector was fouled and I had to clean the threads to get the coil to connect properly. The first few times I tried to connect the coil to the box it wanted to cross thread so I suspect it was cross threaded at the factory. I cleaned that up so that it threads perfectly now. The second issue was that the coil seal is inconsistent on my coil. There are about three gaps in the coil seal that will allow this coil to suck water. I'll have to send this coil back to Whites for a replacement.

      Now I just need more free me time to hunt with it some more. Now that I got a little understanding I want to use it in more minerals.

      Until next time (read next year maybe if Im lucky),
      HH
      Mike
    • By Cal_Cobra
      Looks like an Impact in a Kruzer case:
      https://www.noktadetectors.com/metal-detectors/anfibio-series/

      Nokta Anfibio waterproof metal detector
      Features:
      Warranty : 2 Year Limited Total Weight : 4 lbs (1.81437 kgs) Operating Frequencies : 5kHz / 14kHz / 20kHz IP68 Rating : Up to 16.4' (5 meters) Waterproof! Design : Telescopic Shaft, Slideable Armrest & Backlit Keypad Search Modes : 9 (Gen / 2 Tone / 3 Tone / 4 Tone / Beach / Deep / Etc.) Battery : 3700mAh Lithium Polymer; Offers up to 19 Hours of Operation Advanced Beach Mode : Very Stable Operation in Dry Sand, Wet Sand and Underwater E.U.D (Extra Underground Depth) Function : Detect Certain Metals Masked by Ground Conditions and / or at Fringe Depths Factory Included Accessories:
      2.4 GHz Wireless Headphones - Green Edition AC Charger USB Cable Coil Cover
    • By Old Farm Hunter
      if you know know where i could get a new  prospector 101  metal detecting shaft please put it here thanks
    • By LowTide
      It looks like C-Scope has something new on the Horizon.    What I found interesting was that twice in the linked video they make a point of showing the coil in saltwater, the second shot shows it being moved quite vigorously apparently to emphasize resistance to fals-ing.  Could this be a Multi-Freq or PI?
       
       
       
       
    • By rled2005
      I saw a White's High Sierra metal detector the other day for sale. I've never hear of that one. Looks like a very deep searching detector with no discrimination.
×
×
  • Create New...