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congrats ,i love it when you find those multi nugget holes.

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Really awesome post Simon - thank you for making the effort to do this! :smile:

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Simon.... Congratulations on Your  Gold-Day...- it's really nice pieces .. you deserved to find them .. .. .. Your story is nice  .. but also very instructive .... Thank you ..:smile:

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Congratulations, Phrunt!

Your story also illustrates why a variety of teachers and teaching methods is valuable. No one hears the same thing or understands in the same way. Northeast's example got the message through to you...

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Congrats Simon. I love it that you tell a story that makes us feel like we are with you.

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Simon, you've gone from a student to a teacher, in only a couple years.  Now you're finding the gold JW used to show you.  You helped a newbie tune his detector which you were completely unfamilar with.  Grasshopper, time for you to leave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1wjvP-raOI

Great job by both of you, and continued success, which you have earned.

 

 

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On ya, Phrunt, good to hear you acted on Northeasts analogy, now your on the way.

Watch out JW the young fellas on your tail now for sure.😉

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Nice gold Phrunt.. I have been on a dry streak for a month now. Your story has helped me get motivated again.

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