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Tiny Gold Hunting With The Equinox 800

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Adam,

You need some depth man.  When all your surface gold is gone and you still need a nugget fix ... JW pulls out the big gun.

Nice post Phrunt.  In my Gold Basin experiments I had taken the Nox 6 and discriminated out only -9 hotrocks so as not to hear them.  It was fun swinging but I didn't get over any gold.  I was also trying to listen for a meteorite or two but that lesson of hot rock vs meteorite still escapes me.

Give the stock coil a go when you get back to that spot.  I find it very good on tiny stuff also.

Mitchel

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4 hours ago, mn90403 said:

Adam,

You need some depth man.  When all your surface gold is gone and you still need a nugget fix ... JW pulls out the big gun.

Nice post Phrunt.  In my Gold Basin experiments I had taken the Nox 6 and discriminated out only -9 hotrocks so as not to hear them.  It was fun swinging but I didn't get over any gold.  I was also trying to listen for a meteorite or two but that lesson of hot rock vs meteorite still escapes me.

Give the stock coil a go when you get back to that spot.  I find it very good on tiny stuff also.

Mitchel

Hi Mitchel, using discriminate mode the tiniest ones didn't detect at all, you would be better off putting up with the hot rocks being detected being in the horse shoe all metal mode.  It just seems to have a tiny bit more power in that mode for those very small targets.

Because I had good confidence the targets were gold and I wasn't so desperate to dig with the excitement of it all knowing how small they would be I had time to experiment on targets in ground with different settings and modes.   In anything but MultiIQ some of these little tiddlers didn't even detect which is why I think Multi IQ is the Equinox's secret weapon.

That is of course if you're tiny gold hunting. 

Hi Adam, We hunt in a lot of different locations, this was a bedrock location so we both took along our VLF's, I took the Nox and John the Gm1000 so we could run different detectors, last time I was here I used the GM and also found some tiny gold so I wanted to try a different detector.   The GM and Equinox were the most suitable for this location. 

JW last time used his old Gold Bug 2 in this creek spot and he didn't get anything, I am guessing it's because of the depth, being so high frequency it lacks the depth of the GM and Equinox and all the gold I found except one were even at the depth limits of the Nox hence reporting negative numbers on the VDI's.

Other locations there are reasonable size nuggets at depth, the GPX and GPZ then take over as it's what they excel at as you'll see further down the story where I got nothing with the Nox and JW got a whole lot of nuggets with the GPZ detecting the same spot at the same time.

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Hi Simon… fascinating to see how tiny is the gold that you routinely detect with the Equinox 800. It seems to me that you are undergoing a metamorphosis, becoming increasingly adept at evaluating sites, and more skillful at sniffing out the gold with your various metal detectors. I think that newcomers to the hobby would benefit a great deal from reading your posts about metal detecting for gold. 

If you could post a photo of the new caravan sometime, that would be fantastic. Love to see what both you guys are doing for camping equipment. Otherwise I don’t really have much to say at the moment, just dropped around to say thanks for another enjoyable, informative post to the forum. :cool:

Jim.
 

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37 minutes ago, Jim Hemmingway said:

Hi Simon… fascinating to see how tiny is the gold that you routinely detect with the Equinox 800. It seems to me that you are undergoing a metamorphosis, becoming increasingly adept at evaluating sites, and more skillful at sniffing out the gold with your various metal detectors. I think that newcomers to the hobby would benefit a great deal from reading your posts about metal detecting for gold. 

If you could post a photo of the new caravan sometime, that would be fantastic. Love to see what both you guys are doing for camping equipment. Otherwise I don’t really have much to say at the moment, just dropped around to say thanks for another enjoyable, informative post to the forum. :cool:

Jim.
 

Thanks Jim, I know if I was starting out detecting small gold I would get a lot out of my post here so I am hoping others do too, there is a lot of useful information in there and I tried to write it in a way that would be easy to understand for someone new to detecting.  I didn't get any photos of JW's new gear so I'll leave that up to him.  🙂

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I guess due to Simon's post I will have a much better idea how to approach the Gold in September when I go to CA. I will try Gold 1 or 2 and work in all metal. If there are too many hot rocks I will know the numbers (the once I brought from Canada read at -9) and just ignore them. I will probably check the signal a few times but if they all are HR I will give up diggin' -9 targets even tough I might miss a piece of Gold. Last time being in N-CA the ground was so hot that a VLF (I had a Whites GMT) went totally nuts. But that was a Dinosaur compared to the Nox800. We'll see if the Nox can handle the ground. My plan is to look for some nice bedrock - preferrably on the other side of the river so people with non waterproof machines usually don't take a chance ruining their machines by falling into the water while crossing the river, and try both MDs.

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If the hot rocks are on the surface, kicking them out of the way is safer - there might be a nugget buried beneath that -9 (or whatever) VID number rock.

What we need of course is something which just doesn’t see the hot rocks, not discriminating them out like notching on a VLF, just not registering them at all without being blocked by their return signal from detecting anything else in that spot.

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24 minutes ago, Reg Wilson said:

you will still be just another crow on a carcass.

Great analogy  👍  That sums up how I have felt the past few years.

BUT, I also know where Phrunt is coming from.  There is a safety in going to where you know gold has definitely been found before and you might eke out some golden morsel, no matter how small.   

Mentally, this is the hurdle:

26 minutes ago, Reg Wilson said:

The hard part is accepting that you may go for weeks, or even months without digging a color

But this is most definitely the goal 😀

27 minutes ago, Reg Wilson said:

when you dig gold where it has never been dug before, and by the time fading daylight forces you to stop digging, you have near a years wage or better weighing heavy in your pockets.

And knowing someone who has recently found an undiscovered 'patch' with no diggings, almost zero rubbish and ever increasing weight in his pocket there is great motivation in Reg's words   😉

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This has been my thinking of late - to scout beyond the obvious diggings. Between reefs/leads if that is the correct thinking. Just that i need a PI which would make more sense!

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