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Has anyone tried the x-coils developed for the GPX as of yet?  And are they available to purchase? I have plenty of ground that I've cleaned up by many coils over many years. I still enjoy using my early model GPX 4500 and would love to get one of these x-coils to go over what I have termed " dead ground." 

I have found this thread very interesting the business of finding gold can be passionate, new products excite. Perhaps ML and X-Coils can collaborate considering ML reps follow this forum and make a product we the end users can use to find more gold. This is what its all about.

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11 minutes ago, IronDigger said:

Has anyone tried the x-coils developed for the GPX as of yet?

That would be telling if the X coils for the Xs give the Xs the boost the X coil does for the Z. The Xs and the many coils available for them are mature products, wheras the Z and its coils are early in their development. What the 15 X coil has done for me is illustrate that ZVT is certainly early in its development, likened to the SD days for the PI even maybe, although I doubt it will bring about such a rejuvenation of old patches PIs did. But it is in the search of virgin patches where ZVT might prove to be its strength.

Exciting times ahead for us users and this thread has illustrated we the user finding gold is what it is all about, even though we get a wee bit passionate about it, but this thread is about KiwiJWs take on aftermarket coils and as a private individual just giving his take freely for no gain, this does not encourage early adoptees to come forward. I  bow out of this thread and trust all 4M members appreciate KiwiJWs take.

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Exciting times ahead for us users and this thread has illustrated we the user finding gold is what it is all about, even though we get a wee bit passionate about it, but this thread is about KiwiJWs take on aftermarket coils and as a private individual just giving his take freely for no gain, this does not encourage early adoptees to come forward. I  bow out of this thread and trust all 4M members appreciate KiwiJWs take.

 

Agreed....lets keep this thread going....I have a need for more information.... :)

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I intend to get one for my GPX, I don't expect the massive change they've done for the GPZ as the GPZ had a hole that needed filled, the GPX already has the holes filled but I'm hoping it will be a good quality stable coil and I was thinking of getting another coil size soon anyway, may as well try the new toy in town especially seeing the GPZ versions are working so well and proving themselves.

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Thanks JP, good post! Sorry if it appeared I was prodding you at any point, we are all pretty passionate about detecting and with that can come the occasional hot headed debates, fortunately Steve's here to settle it all down and pull us back in line. 🙂

I don't pretend to understand the technical mumbo jumbo but I know what I see with my own eyes which is what I base my opinions on.

We often talk about our very mild soils here and how it makes us be able to run our gear hotter than most so that would also include the X-coils, results obviously vary based on soil type.  What we consider bad ground you probably think is a walk in the park.

I would be shocked if someone could pull up a shotgun pellet size bit of gold at 15+ cm in OZ soils like JW is doing with the X-coils here, the big booming signal response it gives on those tiny deep bits is crazy.  People do need to know it's unlikely they'll get the same results in different places.  I'm shocked enough seeing it happen here with the GPZ, I know I can't do it with my GPX.  It was reassuring to see Norvic being happy with the coils in the Australian soils around him though.

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On 5/1/2019 at 9:09 AM, Norvic said:

Firstly a question to both JP & KiwiJW, Are we using the same X coil? the one I have is not 15x14 it is 15" in diameter, check out photo of it below the 14". It is more stable when knocking rocks or when swinging in amongst heavy grass, it mirrors basically my first take on the ML 19, a more stable coil then the 14". It has killed the 14" in my opinion,

 

Hi there Norvic, My coil is the 15 X 14. New Zealand Test 2 coil.

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It was pretty simple to do the adapter lead plug.

Chopped off the end of the ML 19 coil which has the chip.

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Solder on the male end of the microphone plug to the chopped off chip end from the minelab coil & the female end back on to the end of the ML coil cable. ML coil all set to still be used. It isn't difficult to do the adapter plug.

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On 5/1/2019 at 9:09 AM, Norvic said:

as I don`t spend my time testing coils for reviews rather I use them to get gold, thus because I am now very confident in the 15" X coil, I am patch hunting ie. finding gold and that is what it is all about for me.

Me to Norvic. That is totally what it is about for me.👍

So on another note: 

 I have no financial gains in any of what I am posting about these coils or Minelab detectors. That I am not affiliated with this Russian company or Minelab. That all I do is for my own pleasure & enjoyment as it is my passion., I know what certain other detectors & coils have done for me out in the field & I know what my current detector & coils are doing for me over the same old ground. I am just sharing my experiences to like minded people as it unfolds for me out in the field. Nothing more, nothing less. I am not a tester as such so you are all free to judge for yourselves & maybe read between my lines to satisfy yourselves. I am not going to get into any defensive battles to back up my findings or opinions. I don't pretend to know or understand all the high tech mumbo jumbo talk of X winding does this & Y winding does that & this setting does this & that,,,etc etc. I just adjust my detectors to the best of what I am happy with out in the field on the day. But if what I share helps some of you then that is what it is all about. I was helped immensely in my early days by forums & like minded people so if I can give something back than that is what it is about for me. No financial gains in any of it for me. I just love doing what I do. So I am just going to go back to my usual way of sharing my days out there. I am not going to get pulled into any personal battles over conflicts of opinion. So if any body wants to fire a shot don't be offended if I don't engage, because I wont. I am a lover, not a fighter.

Good luck out there

JW 🤠

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On Ya JW, never mind whether your a lover or a fighter your a bloody grinner and a winner and that`s the go. May your chooks all lay golden nuggets...……….whoops I was not going to post on this thread, now look what you`ve made me do...……..😉

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On 5/1/2019 at 8:00 AM, Jonathan Porter said:

One of them is letting emotions get in the road of proper testing, especially when you make public reports said tests and then get questioned on your methods.Quoteselection Your posts now seem more and more like someone trying to sell something than someone actually doing pro testing. I’m sorry to ask the hard questions and I’m sure your very passionate about what you are doing, but no one ever gives me and leeway either when I’m providing feedback on a new product.

The next question is even harder, did you actually buy your coils or were you given them to test and perhaps report favourably on them? 

Jonathan, I have no emotional involvement at all. I would most definitely not report on something favorably, for whatever reason,  if I was not happy with it. What I have stated & shared with my experiences so far with these X coils, & I know they will continue, is the result of what I have pulled out of the ground with these coils out in the field on ground that I KNOW was no longer giving up gold to me with the ML 14 coil. Absolute fact. As Simon is my witness. I just know what is working for me out there in our insanely mild ground. Maybe Norvic's coil is hotter again. Lucky him.👍 No wonder he loves it. 

As to Minelab making you the patch lead adapter. I just took a punt that they did & then you have confirmed it by your answer. It will be interesting to see what develops from Minelab, if anything, from here on in.

Personally I did not wish to engage with you & why I hadn't to this point. But I felt out of respect & decency I owed you some answers to your queries & have done so. Over the course of our last few conversations, which go back a wee while now, you didn't treat me too well. Even calling me a troublemaker, which I most definitely am not. That upset me as all I have ever done over the years was to have your back. I had the utmost respect & admiration for you for all you had done, shared & provided in the detecting world. I was always promoting & plugging your B&Z booster system, your dvd's, hip stick etc. That has unfortunately  been soured.

JW

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