So this Saturday im heading back out to the property that produced 4 nuggets with the GPX 4800 last time, using the 11 inch coiltec elite.
The area we will be focusing on has mainly been known for producing larger nuggets in excess of 5 grams. My question is, is there any advantage to use the 11 inch coil vs the 15x12.
The 15x12 obviously gets more ground coverage but would think the two would be about equal on depth to larger nuggets. The 15x12 is probably less responsive to smaller nuggets compared to the 11 inch.
Which would you use on ground that was just clear cut with targets that will generally be on the order of 5 grams or larger?
Thanks for the help
I always wondered if there was even gold around where the X-coil manufacturer lives, I didn't know much about Russian gold or if Russia even had much gold.
Here is a video broken into parts of the Russian manufacturer showing the different capabilities of the 17x12" X-Coil between the Standard GPZ14” Minelab coil being used near high voltage power lines in Russia.
It's good to see he is a prospector.
Sorry about the quality of some of the parts.
It's a deep hole he has to dig to get it, nice soft soil though... that'd make life easier than using a jackhammer 🙂
A lot been said about these x coils when it comes to the zed...but in the beginning there was mention of new improved depth with x coils for the gpx users. As a gpx user and I am probably speaking for many...any news on the performance and availability of these coils. I know I am not letting go of my 4500 anytime soon...
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The manufacture of the X-Coils has made a series of short videos of making a patch lead, I don't have much data for uploads, so it maybe sometime before that all get uploaded, there are some pictures as well. There are no speaking words so no use turning up the sound.
He has Rosin/Flux in the dish that he dips the wires into and then applies heat with the soldering iron to remove the red varnish and other oxides, and then applies some solder to each set of wires.
Here is the first video.
This shows the extra shield wire attached to the blue wire
Small heat shrink tube placed over this instead of the cotton the hold into place
Ready for some hot glue
The finished patch lead, he wraps tape around for extra strength and stiffens up the patch lead
The x-coils aren't water proof? Is that right?
Was heading away for 4 days of nugget hunting in the caravan this week but it looks like it's going to rain??️
Any thoughts on whether the rain may cause any problems to these coils?
I know i used to detect in the poring rain with the coiltek elites and the 11" and 18" were fine but my 14" used to false when pressed against the ground. This only ever happened when it rained and i think moisture was getting in where the cable entered the coil.. I was thinking maybe taping some plastic over where the cable inters the coil on the x-coils just to be safe.
Any other time id just cancel and go the following week but this is the last opportunity according to my wife to go for sometime. (new puppy that will need toilet training etc)
Im keen to try out the new x-coils and hit a spot that may soon be exempt from prospecting in a few months time.
Saturday morning Mrs JW & I packed up the caravan & headed off to goldfields afar. Having got the caravan all set up & sorted we headed off to see the farmer to let him know we were about for the weekend. I hadn't been over this way for a while so it was good to have a catch up with him. Where I wanted to go to try the X coils he told me that they had done a poisoned carrot drop by helicopter for rabbit control & it might pay to keep away from that area. Bugger. So we did. Which left me to go where I had already been over a few times with the X coils & that area had now dried up for me. I did try again but no joy. Other areas I went over I got sick of digging shotgun pellets. Bloody rabbits. I tried one more area before dark & managed one small bit. I didn't even get a picture of it as I had left the phone in the wagon & couldn't be bothered going back for it. It was one of those imagined type signals but there was something about the first little hint of 'was that a signal'? Not always being there I questioned it. But you know how sometimes you think you heard something very slightly that sounded a bit different to a bloody shotgun pellet. Even after a few scapes it still wasn't always there but I was sure I had heard something. I laid into the dig a bit more & then the signal came to life & it was a small bit of gold down in the schist bedrock. That was it though.
Next day we woke to an awesome sunrise.
Went up to investigate the area I wanted to get into. Damn....there was a helicopter loading up with more carrots out in the paddock. Bugger. So we went for a bit of a drive & on heading back past where the helicopter had been filling up we saw the helicopter flying off into the distance & obviously heading off. So I decided to go into an old turned over gully further down from where the helicopter activity had been. It was a gully that had dried up on the gold take for me with the Zed & ML 14" coil. On driving over the paddocks the carrot drop was obvious. So to were the bloody rabbits. On getting to the gully the carrots were not as prolific. But during the course of the day detecting I could see that the rabbits had had a good go at the carrots & there was just small shredded remains here & there of carrots.
On the detecting side of things I was again getting my share of bloody pellets. Bugger. The 10" X coil loves these damn things. I was in High Yield/Normal & full max sensitivity. I was loathed to turning down the sensitivity so put up with the pellets & worked on the scrape it once & if it moves ignore it & move on theory. It still plays on my mind that any one of those could still be a bit of gold. But I cant keep digging pellets all day. So was going for the deeper signals that lived on past the first scrape.
One such signal finally came from an old timers throw out pile. Note the rabbit holes...EVERY WHERE
Mrs JW sitting up in the wagon. The grass was still a problem in the old workings. I have been hugely spoiled in the past & had the pleasure of detecting in here many times with no grass at all. Even with the Zed & ML 14" coil which did get me a few bits & pieces.
Gold it was, small but.
Then further down the same throw out pile.
Note the carrot. And not a Garrett Carrot.?
Another tiny bit of gold. Smaller than a pellet.
I stuck to detecting close to the gully bottom they had dug out as there was a bit of bedrock showing. Hard to see in the photo but under the detector is the bed rock & I got a faint signal to the edge of the bedrock. On digging down the signal improved & was coming from a drop off point of that bedrock.
At the low point I was into rotten crumbly schist. Signal booming I was 100% sure this was going to be gold.
It was but it didn't live up to how loud the signal was & I was expecting bigger. Look at the depth though for that small bit of gold.
I took this next photo as I guessed it was about the same spot as the photo of me with the brush cutter which was about 4 years ago when I cut out a heap of wilding thyme bushes.
Looks like they haven't grown back....yet
Not far from that last piece another signal down in the rotten schist bedrock. Note all the rabbit poo.
Small gold again
Just kept on coming
Another almost imagined signal that had me investigate. Livened up at a bit of depth & down into the rotten schist bedrock.
You can see the beauty of the smaller coil for getting in among those thyme bushes that ML 14" doesn't have a hope of doing. Note to up in the back ground how the wilding thyme bushes takes over valuable grazing land.
A very thin flat flake
Things then dried up for me & I went over to a couple of throw out piles that were away from this main run of workings & where I had snagged a few bits with the 3000 & the 4500 but nothing later with the Zed. They was no bedrock & the throw out piles where of clay & not down to the rotten schist. I wasn't liking my chances & decided that after going over these piles I would call it quits.
I got a nice signal that lived down past the first couple of scrapes.
Wasn't holding my breath as the soil was still pretty loamy but just getting into a bit of a colour change when the signal had moved.
Ha...well I'll be buggered.
Biggest bit of the day. I then got on to a bit of a roll.
That nice colour change again. Rusty clay material.
Out popped this small bit.
And another from the same dig on checking my scrape out pile before back filling.
Right beside a rabbit burrow I got a signal that lived on down quite deep.
My final sassy bit for the day before calling it quits.
All up 16 pieces
For just under 1.5 grams
Loving this coil.
Best of luck out there