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Hi delnorter, The problem with me is I have too much detecting stuff in my head and so can wander off on tangents, getting too deep into details that may confuse rather than enlighten. That is why I like speaking for free - nobody can say they did not get their moneys worth! Seriously, detecting is my passion and if I can turn just one person on to the real enjoyment of prospecting and detecting for gold than I will have paid back in just a tiny way all the help and guidance others have given me over the years. So thank you!