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I got to take my father-in-law out detecting today to a place he's hunted before but for me it was first time out there. It was an abandoned farm house circa late 1800's and upon arrival I could only come up with one word to describe it. It was a "dump." There was trash everywhere and literally a complete inventory of every type of trash available in the modern world was on, in and under the dirt and weeds. A perfect place for me to try out with my trusty equinox I thought and I'll show everyone that I can pull silver out of thin air with this bad boy no matter the trash. After about 15 minutes I began to realize that my silver streak may be over as the targets sounded good but always came up as some form of non-ferrous trash. After an hour I had dug approximately 20 beer cans, 30-40 beer twist offs and a crap load of car parts. I soon was able to paint the picture that these good folks spent their days and nights drinking and working on their cars. Since they were out in the country and a 1/4 mile off the road a traditional trash can at the curb was out of the question and they just threw it wherever. After two hours we raised the white flag and decided to end the hunt. The equinox did surprisingly well even with all this as I found 7 memorials, one 1956 wheatie and a 1980 dime but alas no silver which leads me to my point. Sometimes there's not "there" there. Sometimes the only "silver" in a hunt is the silver lining ending to a day that you got to go metal detecting that hadn't gone as planned. Sometimes the 'there" is just the fact that you got to take your 80 year old father in-law out to enjoy some fresh air and sunshine. I'm not trying to wax philosophical here but rather add some perspective. The equinox is great but it can't find what isn't there to be found. Sometimes a great looking place to hunt is a pile of trash and frustration. I'm kind of indifferent today as before we went out I said my goodbyes to a good friend whose time here on earth is numbered in hours, not days. Enjoy the time outside even if you don't score an awesome coin or relic and be sure to take someone along. Best Skate

That is why I am in Arizona. 41 degrees this morning and planning on going to some new ground for me.

I went out this morning to a hunted out sports field. I had hit this field hard with my E-Trac and even last week I was hunting there again with the E-Trac based on my theory that you never completely hunt a location out. I knew rain was coming so I knew I didn't have much time. Actually being my 1st time using the Equinox more than 2 minutes I was a bit confused with the different sounds and some light chatter. I went out in Park #1 and never changed a thing. After about 5 mins I hit a good target in the 20's and not knowing the different ID's of coins I did know most numbers in the 20's were good to dig. 1st target was a clad dime. The pin pointer was spot on. Then I hit a tab posing as a nickel with a solid #13. Then I hit 3 quarters from #26 - #30. Finally I had a solid #13 and was skeptical after digging a tab but it was a nickel and the next target was a nickel. All together I found $1.43 in clad in 45 mins before the rain came. I also found a spent cartridge. All together I only dug 3 signals posing as a coin. One was a can at 8", one copper strap and one rusty piece of iron that was the size of a 1/2" nut but it wasn't a nut and couldn't determine what it was. I feel confident the Equinox will live up to the all the hype about it over the last 7 months. This attached pic is very poor because I rarely use the camera on my phone. Tomorrow I will either go back to the location I was today because I barely scratched it or a hunted out soccer field. The rest of today will be reading posts on the forum and the users manual

I was much younger when I got my ZED. I used the Pro Swing harness and bungee but carried my pick on my shoulder with my right hand, thus preventing me from using the swing arm. While having my pick with two very strong magnets on my pick, I found that the magnets were reprogramming my hearing aids. My pick has a very long handle and I used it as a walking stick on steep and rough ground. I shortened the handle on my pick enough to carry on my belt which solved the problems with the hearing aids and I could still access my pick if needed for support. Then I tried the swing arm. The difference in coil control and sharing the load with your other arm is amazing. I highly recommend using it. 76 and still swinging the ZED Norm

SO glad I’m a snowbird! ??

It has a lot to do with the shape of the gold. You could have a .1g nugget that is fairly round and solid, that your 5000 might struggle to hear. That same .1g nugget flattened out would instead give a nice distinct signal. There are many variables, shape being one that is very important. The nugget being solid versus crystalline is another factor. If the gold is 'spongy' the detector will have a harder time hearing it. The level of gain you are able to run in your particular soil is another factor. Which timing are you running? Another factor. With a small coil, you should be able to get .1g 'nugs' at a couple inches in moderate conditions.

Well, we finally got some decent beach conditions today so I could really try my 800 out on the sand. Five hours of pure beach detecting fun! And I feel like I have to say this, even if I get raked over the coals by my fellow PI Club members. My Equinox 800 goes practically as deep on the wet and dry sand as my Garrett Infinium. There, I said it. Shocked the hell outta me too. I say practically because I gave up digging stuff 2 feet down a while ago. It's almost always a big piece of crap anyway. That Equinox was locating stuff a foot down easily, with the added benefit of target ID. I started out digging everything so I could learn, but then found that I could eliminate some can slaw and bottle caps by using all metal mode. If I got an little iron grunt on the edge of the coil along with varying ID numbers and tones, it was trash every time. Every single time I got a 19 or 20, it was a rotten zincoln, so I started weeding those out too. I think when I start to really get to know my Equinox and learn it's quirks I'll be able to weed out lots more of the trash. The pull tabs are what they are and you just gotta dig 'em. I think that whoever invented those things should be tied to a chair and forced to watch every single "Oak Island" episode 10 times in a row. I had forgotten how fun it is to hunt the beach with a VLF! I just thought it was the price I had to pay to find anything on my barren beaches. I honestly think my Equinox got every good target that my Infinium would have gotten on depth, plus way more of the smaller shallow stuff the PI would have missed. I do have to crank the disc up to 2 to get it stable in salt water, so that might be the reason. Poor Infinium. I sure hope it finds some gold in Montana that its new sibling doesn't, 'cause Ammie has a new beach machine. I got about $2 in change, the "gold" pendant is plated crap, the token and the lighthouse thingy were junk too. It's always fun digging jewelry though. The marcasite ring is 925.

Last night I get a call from my local dealer. My 800 is in! Asked if he should ship it or if I wanted to pick it up. It is about an hour and a half round trip but it was a no brainer, hit the road in the morning and was back around noon. Had to run a few errands so I got the Nox charging a bit and went out in my front yard. First dig was a nail, 2nd dig was a wheatie. Ok I got this, off to my sons school that is about to be demo'ed, I have super top secret access so I get to hunt the main play field. I know at least 5 other detectorist had been on this field recently, I ran into one last week with his AT Pro, digging clad and a sterling ring. I only had about an hour and spent the first 30 looking for a time capsule that was supposedly buried in a back part of the school. No luck and had to stop because the mosquitoes where draining all my blood. So 30 minutes in the field and all I got was clad but it was all 6+ inches deep. I was amazed! It was interesting because the AT Pro guy I ran into said everything he was digging was about 3 inches down. He probably cleaned off the surface stuff but I was still impressed how clear I was hearing the signals, even with no head phones. My son was with me and he likes hearing the tones. Nothing great, just clad pulled 5 coins from one small area and the amazing thing was I heard them all before we dug. I told my son "I think there are 5 coins here" and bingo out came 5 coins. Also got a fun modern token. I have not been detecting in over 3 years, this machine is so easy and fun to use, can't wait until I actually get to understand it better. Was hunting in Park 2 with just a noise cancel.

No I am a fair weather detectorist these days. In Alaska I had to hunt no matter how bad it was due to short season. Here, there are so many nice days I am not out unless it’s halfway decent. Like 50 or better. I am so busy with other stuff I need winter downtime anyway.

Thus far I have been highly impressed with the Equinox ability to handle high mineral. But...up until Tuesday, the most severe I had hunted in thus far would be 3 to 4 bar Fe meter type clay (on F75). There, the machine runs stable and can achieve good tones and numbers for most items down to 10 inches for high conductors and slightly deeper for low conductors. Very good considering most other machines drop off at about the 6 inch range. Tuesday I went to my bullet range...which is 4 and 5 bar soil. It will be the toughest I run the machine in. This place requires pulse machines to be efficient to be honest with you. I've never had a machine to do well there in discriminate mode. The Equinox also struggled there but I did land on a few tweaks that may help you guys should you encounter harsh soil. 1. Recovery speed. Go faster. If you think slower = deeper, forget it. Play around til you find the one that gives you decent depth...ride the line. 6 is default for most modes, and of course 8 is max. 7 is the compromise I think. You do lose some depth but it's nothing compared to what you lose in harsh soil with a slower recovery. 2. Coil position is CRITICAL. I dug some decently deep 3 ringers Tuesday....12 to 13 inch range. The only way I got them was to first run all metal. When you come up on a signal, you will hear iron mostly. Until you pinpoint the target to the exact center of the coil. If it is non ferrous and deep, you will be able to start getting positive numbers and tones JUST directly center of the coil/target. Move a little left/right or forward/back off center, and it's iron. If all you hear is iron with it centered....its iron. I dug some bullets that were 7 to 9 inches that came through loud and clear with iron disc on...but the deeper ones would be easily missed with iron disc on. I'm not use to seeing that kind of depth out of a vlf machine in soil that bad...much less one doing it in disc mode. If this machine had a true motion all metal mode on it, I feel it would have been legendary relic hunting status. It is good the way it is now...but wow. I can't wait to see how it handles with the larger coil when it arrrives. Most people are anxious for the small 6"....I'm more interested in the bigger one. I ended up with 13 minie balls Tueaday in a place in which the last few trips there, I hadn't dug but 1 or 2. I honestly left early and could have dug more but I had saw what I needed to see to know "this dawg will hunt in bad soil.

Snow was all gone, but dumped 8” last night and still falling....

This winter in Western Montana has put snow level on my claim at about ten feet with snow drifts 25 feet or more on the road in. I have spent the winter researching and studying. I just wish I could retain half of what I have read. Normally I have to wait until July 1 to get in and get the gold. Usually it is worth the wait. This year I hope to discover other deposits on the fringes of my past workings. I do coin shoot here in the valley when the snow melts and the ground is not frozen. What a lifestyle! Aren't we fortunate? Good luck out there! Bugler

The best thing about having two detectors is you can always take someone else hunting.

Many moons ago I found a 0.06g nugget on my GP extreme running an 11" mono. The GPX5000 and modern coils are much more sensitive, so capable of some very small stuff. 6" Detech mono, 8x6" Sadie and 14x9" Evo are the best three coils I've tried on the really small stuff. 8" Detech and Commander monos are a very close second. The older 8" Super Gold Search mono's are also a great coil, particularly in hotter ground. Re timings, on the very small bits I find Fine-Gold has an edge over Sens Extra, but Sens Extra will punch deeper if the ground isn't hindering it. With any of the new spiral wound coils, Fine Gold and Enhance are so good, that I only ever try Sens Extra if the ground is really mild.

Yeah , I am probably too fussy about balance and added a Makro stand and a small counterweight Its really being picky though and isnt really an issue until a bigger coil comes along from Minelab or Coiltek etc I took out the end plug found a piece of pvc electrical conduit which fits very snug inside. Measured exactly from arm rest bolt to end cap and cut the counduit at that length (you do not want it moving about) Found a long thin lead fishing sinker, shaved a bit off it and hammered it into the conduit so it fits tight. Pop it inside and put the end cap back on.

I also experimented with a bunch of musket balls in a pouch mounted to the arm cuff. Eliminates nose heavy but I get the sensation that it takes more lateral effort to change directions in my swing. In the end I'd rather not use counterweighting I do think going one hole shorter on the lower rod makes a huge difference in ease of swing( not that it's ever really hard).

Try Sensitive Extra if your ground will allow it.

Thats a nice looking inverter...but I don't need 3 of them..... I'm on my second marriage as well. It will be my last, win loose or draw...right now it seems like a win. I hope somebody nice gets it. 50 because thats all thats left. I'll be at Lackland Air force base next week watching my son graduate from boot camp. I'll pick it up while there. strick

+1 on what Steve said and another issue that affects nose weight is where you set your arm rest up and the length of the shaft settings. I'm 5'8" and when I got my 800 I kind of put it together without really thinking through the ergonomics of it and mine was a little nose heavy. On Monday night I got my 600 and put it together and when I did I tried it out swinging in the garage and if felt like a different detector. The 600 felt like it was a part of my arm and the 800 not so much. I put it side by side my 800 and I noticed the 600's arm rest was a couple notches forward and the shaft was one button hole shorter. I made the adjustment and Bingo, nose heavy issue was gone. The 15" coil may change all this but we could be on to the Equinox 2000 by the time it comes out so not to worry.

I think you will find like most people that once you get an Equinox this is kind of a non-issue. Mostly just something for people to discuss while waiting for a detector. I keep all the bullets I find detecting and made up a 1 lb sack and tied under the armrest. It makes for a better balance but... well, it adds a pound! I don't intend on fiddling with it anymore beyond that brief experiment. Now, when I ever get a 15" coil that will probably be another matter, as I would expect the balance them to fall outside my comfort zone. Until then however I have no complaint with Equinox as is. In fact the slight nose heavy setup makes it very comfortable for me using the detector without an arm strap since the cup stays firmly against my forearm. In parks Iet the coil ride on the grass and as much pushing down as holding up. Long story short you might want to give it a spin before doing anything.

kiwijw, it has nothing to do with being a pussy or not. What it is about is about is companies that take it for granted that they can produce products with little consideration for the well being of their consumers, confident that whatever ergonomic nightmare they dish up will be gratefully accepted because of the technological advance achieved. With a bit more thought a machine that weighed a lot less could have been achieved, avoiding the need to be trussed up with leads, cables, and 'cripple stick'. If you are happy to look like a Christmas turkey while detecting, then good for you. It's not everyone's idea of detecting bliss.

There are times when 6" is more than enough. I could take those jokes further but this is a family forum. https://www.whiteselectronics.com/product/mx-six-shooter-6-concentric-coil/ P.S. - Sorry this took so long Chuck. Been out of the office a lot lately.

Ok.... This may sound weird to some, but whenever I used to use my old scoop in the sand and surf, I end up trying to balance my detector up against my hip or in front of me so I have both hands free to lift or hold the handle as to look around in the scoop basket. Is there any type of leash that would go around my waist and hook to the arm piece of my detector so I could just let it hang free without it slipping off of me and falling into the drink? I have a new long handle scoop coming in the mail so I thought I would ask.

I was actually looking for your findings to be just as you reported. Great and bountiful finds are yet to come.

I like the tone break at 22. I can use it with 2 tones or 50 tones, although I've been using 2 tones. I like it because it high tones on silver coins and low tones on nickels, much like an Etrac. I didn't initially realize that a 600 could do this, since the 800 is promoted as having adjustable nonferrous tones; however, this is a great setup to avoid zincolns and find everything else.

Just ordered the nf 8x6 sadie

Well it looks like I created just as many questions as I left answers. So to sum up my experience. When I bought the gpz I already knew it was a heavy detector. Knowing that I figured the swing arm would add unneeded weight . The decision resulted in the shoulder pain and after discussing it with others I learned that most people use the swing arm. So I attached it and had to deal with the damage. It definatly helps distribute the weight and increases your control. I still rotate from left to right side detecting during the day . This helps prevent my shoulder pain from returning.

Equinox E600 Update on "Quest for Silver" I have been excited to get back out to this school in an attempt to complete my Quest for Silver using the Equinox. So, two nights ago, I spent about an hour and a half covering some of the same areas I have had luck in my previous hunts with other machines. The ground is interesting, and changes from area to area. Where I found most of the wheats in the picture above... the ground is mostly dirt and somewhat hard at digging depths. The ground on the lower right of the playground pad is hard packed and mostly gravel. It takes work to get down even 3 or 4 inches using a digger - and all my machines, Equinox included, false something terrible in this area. On this hunt, I found two wheats on the left side (where most of the yellow dots are) and one wheat very close to the lone yellow dot on the lower right side. But no silver... yet. Aside from the wheats, I also found several clad coins, dimes and copper pennies mostly... and in the same area I have gridded with other machines more than once. I also found a thin silver ring, and a few pieces of junk jewelry. My next trip, I will focus on the areas around the old school foot print, as well as in the lower left area of the grounds, where there is an old backstop and lined by old houses on the other side of the chain link border fence. As I have said earlier in my post... I am convinced there is a silver coin hiding somewhere in that picture above, and I believe it is just a matter of time before I and my Equinox find it :). More to come. HH Tim.

This is the 3rd year we're doing this, and the tokens this year are huge, thick collectible ones worth $25 for the silver and $100 for the gold. Details here: https://www.whiteselectronics.com/whites-easter-egg-hunt-2018/?lang=us

Sounds like some great site options you have Bayard. And I like your approach... canvassing the ground with the Etrac for keepers, then going back over with the Equinox to snag the more masked targets. How do you like the 2 tone option on the Equinox? Is that similar to what you are running on the Etrac? Tim.

Yea it rained like a bugger over here...at least the turf will be soft. strick

You can see where I posted here http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/5773-how-do-you-charge-your-equinox/?tab=comments#comment-60645 about my portable charger for the Nox.. After trying it out on a hunt with the plans of only using it if I needed to charge, I end up leaving it on because it helped balance the detector better.. It’s not as big and obstructive as it appears in the photos.. I forget it’s even on there as I hunt.. Bryan

Just remember that you need more than 300 nuglets ( 0.1 grams Slightly larger than a turdlet and much larger than a trinket, the nuglet is the average piece of fecal matter ejected by the erupting anus. Greatly known for most of the "aromatic" fragrance while shatting, the nuglet is a colorful and sensual component of the dumping process. Watch out though, don't mistake it for smudglet, ...)To make only one Ounce

Thanks for the inspiration Skate. I need to see if my dad might be interested in going for a hunt. I think it would be great if he is interested. I'm going from zero to two detectors this week. Thanks Steve H!

Shape has a lot to do with it. I can hear a flat 2 grain loud but can't hear 2 grain that shaped funny

that would be 11pm CST for me. A fella on one of my FB prospecting groups got an email last week saying it would ship within 1-2 days. Like me, he also ordered his around 2pm CST on the 20th. He just got his today from Cabela's. So we know there is a "trickle" of some sort.

Hello Steve. Thank you for responding. I would attend the AMA meeting, But I am not in Fairbanks. I just figured I would post here and see what flies out of the bushes!

I ordered on the 20th around 9pm pst. I think we are going to be in the end of March group.

Hey Strick I welcome you to San Antonio. We have lots of fun things to do. Sea World is a more lay back place to go but you could go to Six Flags if you go for a faster pace. If you go to the River Walk at night the Birds can be bad so don’t walk around looking up with your mouth open. I can relate to your son but my time was 61. The Best To You and Your Family Chuck PS Please tell your son Thank You for his service to our great country.

Thnks Daniel, great report and a mirror of my findings. I have been repeating over and over that reducing recovery speed in high mineral ground will lose depth, not gain it, but skeptics abound. Further, in any situation where good targets reside next to bad targets lower recovery speeds induce masking. Lightning fast speed is one of Equinox major advantages and many people are tossing it away without a thought. I am not saying lower recovery speeds do not apply in some situations, but most places have been pounded for years by slower machines so why go there? Even where people think trash is sparse that trash still hides targets. In my opinion high mineral ground acts like ground made up of just another type of dense ferrous targets, with weaker and stronger areas. Faster recovery speeds act to reduce "ground masking" letting Equinox peek into small areas of weaker mineralization or between hot rocks that mask targets from other machines. Another way to look at recovery speed is as a type of ground filter. Recovery speed on the Equinox is roughly analogous to V/SAT on White's prospecting detectors. There is no denying that ground noise (ground masking) increases with lower recovery speeds in mineralized ground. I also have seen my best deepest targets reveal as a small non-ferrous spot in the middle of a larger ferrous "donut" in bad ground. In fact, if I find a nice round ferrous target (why I hunt with ferrous accepted) I work it extra hard trying to get that nice non-ferrous spot to open up in the middle. 39 is high ferrous wrap but a hit in the mid to higher 20s in the middle of a ferrous donut is usually a deep non-ferrous target. Again, we are talking severe ground conditions. Mentioned here in November and here in December with later mentions. As you note being dead center on target and with proper sweep speed is critical to getting these right. And listen for the overall "roundness" of the combined ferrous/non-ferrous target - oddball ferrous will not exhibit the roundness factor as much if at all.

Yikes, scared me there Strick - thought you were leaving the forum! Glad to hear that’s not the case.

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I'm going to be in Avila beach in two weeks with my Equinox so I will probably get everything in Pismo before you get there. I'll leave you a few zincs in the dry sand so you can learn the tones.

Hi raildawg. Congrats on the Z purchase. If you can use the harness or hip stick or some sort of bungy system that will help a lot with fatigue and also coil control. Settings. Yes default is a good place to start. If you think there may be some bigger bits (>5 grams) general/difficult can be a good combo. If you use an audio booster it is worth turning the volume on the Z down as it can make it run smoother. As with previous detectors you have probably owned turn the sensitivity up 1 notch until it is unstable and then turn it back 1. This should get you above the default range and being 4 or 5 notches above default can make quite a difference - especially to the tiny nuggets. Or you can have a look at Steve’s Insanely Hot settings if you dare They aren’t for everyone or every location but max sensitivity for a short period to clean up a little area can make the world of difference. Use the GPZ 7000 tag on this forum and go back and look at ALL the posts by Steve and JP. JPs advice on ground balancing, ferrite balancing, conservative settings, etc are invaluable. Even put together your own cut and paste manual of their words. I’ve done just that and reference it quite often. Much of the knowledge I have beyond the instruction manual is that which JP, Steve and others on this forum have so kindly and freely provided. The Z is actually fairly straight forward re: settings but there are plenty of little adjustments that can make or break a session depending on your ground, gold, emi, etc. And, I almost forgot, I would use normal ground mode as much as possible if your ground/hot rocks allow. Normal definitely opens up more targets for you than difficult. Hope that’s useful and hope you get amongst some yella. Have fun

I agree from the user perspective. Tip-only detection has advantages in some cases, broadside detection in others. From a designer's perspective, tip-vs-broad is a design constraint. Loaded oscillator (Garrett) and PI use a coil that is naturally broadside. With IB (TRX, Sunray) the coil design results in tip-only. It's not something the designer has much of a choice in, other than choosing the initial technology.

Today I spent some time on the beach in a little bit of rain with the 800. It was a pretty good day because there were 3 Osprey troop planes overhead and a couple of helicopters carrying the President. Meanwhile on the beach there was next to nothing again with about 4 miles walked and only one little patch. This patch was both at the beginning and the end of my hunting of about 3 hours. I tried hard but the waves today were only about 1 ft and that was after a storm. There weren't many surfers out but that is not what this post is about. I found a few pennies and tried for better targets before returning and gridding the area. I gridded by overlapping my swings to locate all possible targets and then I heard the pennies which were only 3-4 inches. I had it on all metal and just kept digging and listening on Beach 1 standard but maybe 22 sensitivity. Then I heard an iffy target. I'm still learning so I dug. I dug some more and then down at least 12 inches was the earring. It was quite rusty but there is non-iron also. At the bottom of the hole it was wet. There was a layer there deposited from another time of bigger waves. This sand layer had built up over it. Time to grid more. I extended the 'patch' but overlapped my walking and went back over a hole I had dug a penny and it still had a target. Down I went again to that same layer, 12-14 inches deep. Out pops the other little earring. A bit of copper on the end with the wire. This is seeing real deep with a bit of a slower swing and knowledge that there is a layer. Those were the interesting finds. The other stuff is there too. Mitchel

I had said I’d stop this contest sooner if someone guess it correctly, Well that is not the case! Then as you can see this contest is still on. Who knows by the time someone gets it right I may be married again. That’s the trouble with old dogs no matter what they still like to hunt. It’s like a dog chasing a car what’s is he going to do with if he catches it. If my wife ever reads this post just say may he Rest In Peace. haha Thanks for playing! One thing about it, it will take the undertaker three days to get the smile off my face. Chuck

I would like to thank Minelab for showing me the trust they did in allowing me wide latitude in creating this forum and running with the ball. It has been a genuine honor to have been involved in my own tiny way in this project. Thanks gents - you know who you are.

Sorry but as a business owner myself that is no excuse for treating customers like dirt. I could manage that situation myself and have no sympathy for dealers that can’t. Nobody put a gun to anyone’s head to take preorders and no company should be taking more than they can manage. It has to be really tough to sit on 100 customers money while giving them nothing in return. I don’t know what the true situation is but any problems with dealers reside with the dealers themselves. Frankly, dealers are famous for trying to toss blame for situations of their own making back at the supplier. In my case I never took money from anyone until I had stock on hand because I learned long ago that delays not only can but will happen. Problem solved.

I use an iPad Charger at home, but I picked up a RAVPower 10050 mAa Waterproof (when lid is closed) Shock Proof, Dust Proof portable charger just in case I forget to charge and end up with a dead Equinox in the field.. It has two USB ports so you can charge the Equinox and it’s headphones at the same time. It’s fairly small and light at 7.4 oz .. It measures in at 2.8”. 4.61” x .91”.. Pretty compact compared to some of the longer units I researched.. I had an AWP cell phone case laying around that I bought some time ago that works perfect for it. I took off the metal belt clip and use the belt loop to slide over the arm rest.. Test swings at home seem to feel like the EQ has better balance.. The charger has great reviews on Amazon. I can’t remember where I bought the case. It was in the tool belt section of either Lowe’s, Depot or Walmart.. Bryan