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Tis the season for nuggetshooting the great American desert southwest once again, and for the first leg of my annual pilgrimage it’s always mandatory to spend some time at the Rye Patch area in northern Nevada. With the ground being very dry this time of year, the GPZ 7000 performs at its best in this region with minimal interference from the conductive alkali component of the local ground. In areas where there was variable ground however, a quick adjustment of the Ground Smoothing from Off to Locate Patch returned the threshold to a smooth and stable operation again. One of the highlights of the hunt was a decent, broad target that had a hint of a gurgle as the coil was swept completely out of the target zone, which indicated the nugget was going to be a bit larger than the usual dinks I had been finding. After removing 8 to 10 inches of material out of a broad area centered over the target, the signal response was fairly screaming as I swung the coil flat against the bottom of the excavation. Turning the coil up on edge however, and the Zed struggled to get a response from the bottom of the hole; when this scenario happens, it’s telling me there’s a really nice nugget and that I have a lot more digging to do. ? Finally, at a depth of 18 inches, the target was screaming off the edge of the coil, so just using the plastic scoop, I dug into the floor of the mammoth dig hole and retrieved the golden beauty: a lovely 10.6 grammer!? This same process was repeated on another occasion, but this time it was a 4.5 gram nugget about 3 inches away from another nugget about half its size, again at around 18 inches deep. Although pretty nippy in the mornings, the sunny weather held out with no wind. So all in all, a super good hunt, with a total of 51 grams of golden goodies.

I'll take one or the other ... thank you. ? https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/two-nuggets-are-better-than-one-prospector-s-dual-delight-in-wa-outback-20181121-p50hi3.html

Indeed Simon, but I use a secret weapon in flogged areas: slow and careful gridding; most operators can’t even stand to do it for a half an hour, let alone all day for days on end. But in these kinds of areas, it’s the most effective way to maximize your gold recovery.

I hope all has had a great year and today we give thanks for that. Let’s give thanks for family and friends be far are near. We only here for a short time so let them remember the love you had for all and you too will be remembered. Chuck

Depending on the terrain, my grid areas are typically squares with sides around 30' to 40' in length. Using line-of-sight, I simply detect between two bright orange soccer cones placed on opposite sides of the square, moving them along the sides until the entire square has been covered. The process is then repeated at 90 degrees.

In recent months I've had the great opportunity to meet many new relic hunters. No young guys all between 50-70 years of age and very avid hunters. Conversations from modern day sites to colonial and everything in between. Being very curious, at some point I ask, what detecting forum do you belong to? Answer 100% of the time has been, none. Thinking, how can it be 100% no. So it got me to thinking, just how much history has been recovered with no record, other than their own experience. One guy even stated he would not post his finds, even if he belonged to a forum because he was afraid someone might see and follow him to his private hunting site. Now that make sense. Just sharing my thoughts and encounters.

Yes, happy Thanksgiving all. We here in Northern California finally got our first substantial rain. Our local Smith River was about to go underground on some riffles. We’re thankful for the rain, although very strong winds blew my new green house all over and toppled 4 redwoods in the back yard area. The power just came back on so dinner can be finished cooking. All the best to you and thanks Steve for the great forum, Mike

Bill, Sorry I did not get to this sooner, was out of town again testing a coil and some new Settings. My input to your questions is my findings at the beaches I used and different locations could (probably will) result in change. 1) Yes the TDI beach Hunter is Deeper (on coins and most rings) than my Xcal, 3030 and Equinox in salt water. Not sure it is 40%, but I did notice the depth difference. Sensitivity to small targets. I found stud ear rings in the water with the TDI and that I did not expect from a PI. Now I will tell you, the Equinox is even more sensitive to the tiniest signals, but when I use the TDI I'm mainly looking for rings and the extra Sensitivity to other jewelry finds was a bonus. 2) The Hi/Low Tone Feature is a Lifesaver and after a day and a half, I had to nailed down. Even the iron hair pin (which does come in at a Hi Tone like most gold rings) I could tell from the pattern of the hi tone. Not having to dig all the coins (low tones) is perfectly fine with me. 3) My 40+ yrs detecting has taught me some pretty easy pin-pointing when compared to a Novice Hunter. Realize a larger 12" will make multiple beeps on a surface target, so be sure to lift the coil 6" to 8" off the ground to get a single response. This is also a good way to get a "gestimate" of target size and or depth. I had no problems. Again it was more Sensitive to smaller jewelry that I had expected, which is a win win. 4) Pulse Delay Setting varies, but I try to keep it from 12 to 18. If hunting a site and beach conditions/time permits, I'll be around 12 for smaller gold, but if I need to grab and go and after the gravy, then around 16-18. Ground mineralization also affects the desired setting of Pulse Delay. Realize the Ground Balance too is working with the Pulse Delay so there is no exact setting for all. Word of caution on the Hi/Low Tone Identification System. As you make bigger adjustments to GB and Delay, it does change the pattern of Tone ID, so again you are best to have a couple sample targets at your desired location and play with them, the detector and settings to learn what is ideal for that site. Yes it could take you 15 to 20 minutes, but Detector knowledge at that site = Treasure Finds Success. All ear ring finds in the photo were recovered with the new White's TDI Beach Hunter on the trip. I'd say it certainly does have Sensitivity to small targets and that usually is not what a PI is best at. White's did quite well again.

I think there are available hardware engineers; but, the company has to be able and willing to put the resources into hiring them and supporting them on projects. If a detector manufacturer reaches the point where it only wants to direct resources to marketing and sales, it's probably in a death spiral. I like Minelab's dry understatement: "An understanding of electromagnetics would be a significant advantage." BTW, I see Whites is also looking to hire a design engineer. https://www.whiteselectronics.com/jobs/

What features should be standard in a 21st century metal detector? Going forward I have a couple basic features I would like in any new detector model I get. Given the current state of the art, the detector may as well be waterproof. This used to incur a penalty by way of limited features, increased weight, or lack of coil options, but those days are past. And at this point built in wireless headphone capability is a must for above water use (hardwired phones are required underwater). The following detectors are all waterproof to at least ten feet, and all have built in wireless headphone capability. All have built in waterproof speakers and optional interchangeable search coils. Click chart for larger version. 21st Century Metal Detectors - Waterproof and Wireless Headphones 21st Century Metal Detectors (Waterproof & Wireless) Quest 40 Makro Kruzer 14 Minelab Equinox 600 Garrett AT Max Makro Gold Kruzer Quest Pro Makro Multi Kruzer Nokta Anfibio 14 Nokta Anfibio 19 Minelab Equinox 800 Nokta Anfibio Multi Minelab CTX 3030 All these models although waterproof feature coils that can be swapped out. Back in the day waterproof detectors usually came with only a single hardwired coil, but there is no need to settle for that now. All these models have three or more coil options available. If a detector is truly new, less than a year on the market, then I want it to have the ability to be updated via the internet. Once a detector has been on the market over a year this is not quite as important but still desirable. All these models except the Garrett AT Max and Quest 40/Pro may receive firmware updates via the internet. All the models listed have built in sealed rechargeable batteries, except for the Garrett AT Max, which uses removable AA batteries. Sealed batteries provide for better waterproof integrity, but eventually the batteries will have to be serviced. The operating frequency options vary with these detectors. If the detector is to be used in or around saltwater very much, do consider multifrequency as the preferred option for most saltwater use. The Makro Gold Kruzer is a special case, with a very high 61 kHz frequency making it more an option for gold prospectors, jewelry hunters, or relic hunters looking for very small non-ferrous targets. Because of this high operating frequency the Gold Kruzer is the least saltwater friendly detector in this roundup. Although all these models have built in wireless, they all feature proprietary systems with the exception of the Minelab Equinox, which has a proprietary system but also offers standard Low Latency Bluetooth. Right now proprietary solutions can offer less audio lag but at the price of being locked into using the proprietary headphone options, which tend to be limited. Low Latency Bluetooth is fast enough for most people and no doubt will be faster in the future, so look for proprietary offerings to fade away. 21st Century Metal Detectors - Waterproof & Wireless

Happy Turkey ?Day! Rick

I have asked at clubs, and most detectorists claim not to spend any time on forums, Facebook, etc. The reasons are varied, but the fact remains all the online discussion takes place among a minority of detectorists. The forums themselves have been on the decline with the ascendancy of Facebook and YouTube. About half the forums I used to frequent are either now gone or ghosts of their former glory. I do also think in the U.S. at least we have passed “peak detecting” and are now facing a slow decline in interest that is playing into all that. So yes, I do believe the vast majority of finds are quietly made and known to few.

It took me awhile to be able to overcome the impulse to wander, but I’ve learned that gridding these old patches is guaranteed gold. They’re typically small bits, but once in a while the law of averages kicks out a bigger lump.

Hi folks, I got out with the GPZ for some gold hunting. It has been almost a year since I used it...glad to say it still works. Dick W and Mike G were kind to invite me to their claim...I found four little bits For point 89 of a Gram...about 1/2 a pennyweight

WTG - Lunk you are a digging machine. 18” digs are never a lot of fun, particularly when you have to dig it wide enough for fitting the 14” disk. Kudos for hanging in there, proving yet again that patience “rules” @ Rye Patch.

You usually have lessons in your posts and the ones in this post are particularly valuable. Patience and gridding. I wonder if, when you have a moment, you could quickly describe how you go about how you grid an area and how big the areas usually are. Thanks for the post, it is inspiring to see someone who knows what they are doing show the results and describe how it's done.

One of the disadvantages of many of the U.S. based manufacturers is that they have been closely held family run businesses. That means that if the CEO makes poor decisions then there is "no replace or fire the CEO". This has also led to some internal family conflicts which distracts and diverts energy/attention from the business itself. Then there is the matter of aging and the transition of management to younger individuals.

And sometimes it's just a seam of hotrock. This started as the sweetest sounding target signal all day. Faint rising tone, kept getting better and better the deeper I dug. I turned down the sensitivity and kept digging expecting the signal to overload the tone any minute. Then it stopped getting better and got weaker. I scanned over the pile and got garbled tones all over the pile. I walked back to my truck and got out the Nox 800 with 6" coil. Back down the mountain and scanned the hole and piles. Nothing but -9 tones everywhere. Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

What's wrong is what's right: most people get great instructions, get put in a good gold-finding area, but don't listen carefully to the instructions (been there, done that myself), so the wrong is not listening and internalizing what needs to be done, the right was in the proper instructions they were actually given. In other words, many people go too fast, don't carefully check out threshold disturbances (not signals), and obviously what she did right was she did check out a threshold disturbance, had the patience to stick with it, and so she got the nugget that many others would walk over. Point in case, I've worked with three rookies in the last two years, two investigate every threshold disturbance and they've got the gold to show for it, lots of nice nuggets. The other one just tears into the coil swinging trying to cover as much ground as quickly as possible waiting for a "screamer" to stop him, and for some reason, he won't believe the other two that they find nuggets by going slow and listening exceptionally carefully and then investigate any disturbance in the threshold: he can't believe that strategy works. He'd rather believe they were just lucky enough to get their coils over the gold first. Yup, he still has no gold . . . All the best, and thanks for the pictures and the explanation, Lanny

That’s too bad, many years of accumulated posts and knowledge, all gone.....

Last week I went to Bill's outing. I was there mostly to learn (I say that now) but I also picked up the big Nox coil. I didn't use it in the desert but I did use it on the beach. The first hunt was pretty uneventful. Bad beach, bad results as they say. The next time I used it a couple of days later the beach was not that much different but I was ready to test it to the max. I'll have to admit that I didn't walk very slowly. I wanted a big sound to stop me. I also had a specific place in mind. On the way there I got a signal that was mostly 'deep penny' sounding but some of them you have to dig. I kept digging and digging (later measured to be about 15 inches) and I saw something about the color of the sand and it looked like a blade or utensil. When I got it out it was the piece in the center. Sword shaped but used as a pendant? Someone told me it might be from some type of uniform or costume? I've never found anything quite like it. It weighs 1.33 oz and it has a mark of sterling but nowhere does it say .925. After this I continued on down to my beach and I got a signal and looked down and the darker stainless steel ring was on the surface in a footprint. On the way back I gridded an area and came up with the other stainless ring. Here is a previous hunt with the 11 inch coil. You know what detector someone is using when you find this! I have many desert 'tourist' photos I could post but there are no finds to go with them. Mitchel

I too have resisted Facebook and other nonsense social media. Social media seems to fall short with meaningful information, unlike a forum. This forum is my mainstay detecting forum and hopefully sites like these continue when fad sites like Facebook wane.

Very impressive pile...…!!!!!!

Mark, Thier concerns are valid, I’ve heard stories like that. One friend of mine went to a local relic hunting club meeting and some there followed him to a CW campsite he had discussed finding. They raided the campsite with a Bobcat (mini-bulldozer). As far as relics being lost to history, that is all in your perspective. I’ve found many relics and they are preserved and will be passed on to my sons when I am gone. Many of these old-timer relic hunters have huge collections that we couldn’t imagine, I’ve seen a few. Most of the CW relics that are still in the ground have been lost to history forever. Either the land has been developed or they will be corroded by time and fertizer before they can be discovered. Joe

So my brother who has been detecting for 20 years has only recovered 1 gold ring and that ended up in a museum in England. I promised him if he used the new White's TDI "DEEP" Beach Hunter the whole time on our hunt that he'd find more than 1 gold ring. Not only did he do that, but he also recovered the best ring of the trip, this monster Emerald, diamond and yellow gold beauty. Hats off to you Travis for not giving up on those deep signals. Folks, the TDI Beach Hunter is a Pulse Induction detector and it goes much deeper than standard machines. Plus it runs smoother than most in salt water and is simple to use...just turn it on, set the knobs and go. One of the cool features of the TDI beach Hunter is the Tone Identification system that allows you to decide if you want to dig the High Tone Only, which gives you a greater chance of gold and platinum rings, or the Low Tones which are usually most coins. This feature alone saves time as you will end up digging DEEP. One other thing to have, a good Deep Beach Scoop.

Dubious You said White’s is looking for a design engineer and here I am sitting by the phone waiting for that call . I would think my phone should be ringing off the hook by now . Like so many things I just don’t understand it.haha Chuck

Well done, Lunk! You have the patience and skill to grid properly, not many do! fred

I don't have any $1 oz coins...spent them on beer I guess. fred

Wow! Enjoy! ? Ig

Fred you should use a Oz $2 coin in your photo it will make them look bigger as you know it is a lot smaller than a $1 coin and you can use more zoom. ?

Because its not really a filter the circuit doesnt lend itself to using a pot. The circuit selecting the bands doesnt just rely on changing values of resistance. There are numerous components that need to be switched to select each one of the 3 bands. The damping observed is really only a by product of not having the optimum band selected but customers have found it useful when they encounter very hot ground. It can be used in addition to the detector controls to quieten the signal.

The most ignorant...lol...thing anyone has said to me when they saw me metal detecting was, "get a job"... In my mind I think, to myself, "if ONLY those people KNEW just how MUCH this metal detector cost..." In most instances my metal detector cost MORE than their car...go figger...

Thats right, survival of the fitness. ?

I've thought about what's happening in the metal detecting market often lately. In my thoughts, the Equinox was a hard blow to the other manufacturers, but not the first shot at them. Minelab started this process long before the Equinox was unveiled. For me it started with the Explorer II (which I did not like) so I traded it back for a DFX, as I was a White's guy since 1972. But their long over due release of the V3i made me try Minelab again with the E Trac… followed by the CTX, GPX and now the Equinox. While Minelab was gearing up and innovating, other brands were still selling repackaged old technology. They were unable or unwilling to change. Fast forward to now and they find themselves extremely far behind in technology. They may never recover. I fault them for that. I too will never look at any single frequency machine again unless it ID's GOLD (100% of the time) That I would buy Seriously, the bottom market can not support all the other manufacturers. So they must compete with the Equinox or come out with some new, unbelievable technology. The question in my mind is not whether they will survive, but rather do they deserve to survive?

Could it be?

WOW ! Very impressive batch of nuggets and some say the Rye Patch has been pounded to death! I don't think so! WTG

I got out for a few hours this morning with the Z hooked up to the sPo1 enhancer wired to the WM12 for wireless operation. I spent the first part of the morning rolling big chunks of granite that were giving off faint positive tones hoping that one of the tones would continue once the rock was moved. I was having no luck other than shards of lead bullets. I stepped up on a bench section of an old desert wash and saw that someone had dug a Z coil sized hole about 4 inches down. I waved over the hole and got a faint positive tone, not much different than the 30 or so I had experienced from the granite rocks on the way down the wash. I hit a couple big chunks of granite with the pick and pulled them out of the way. The faint tone was still there, but seemed very broad and not well defined. I dug down another 4 or 5 inches and waved the coil over the hole, still a faint, broad tone not much improved. Thinking it was more hot granite I switched to Difficult. Nothing, not a peep. I was about to give it up as another hot rock but decided to dig a few more inches. Now I'm down 8 or 9 inches and the tone improves in volume, but still seems overly broad. I dug down another 4 or 5 inches and the tone is really crazy. No clear location and it started sounding like crumpled foil with a choppy broken tone. Now I have to widen the hole and go down another few inches. The Z tone is really crazy so I switch to Difficult. Even Difficult is catching the tone now, but it's sounding like a piece of wire. I'm pretty sure I'm down past the trash level and start scooping out the hole with my plastic scoop. As I'm scooping it out I see a layer of rusty red, crumbling clay rock. This stuff is fairly common down here and it's hot enough to really gives the Z machine fits. I get out the pinpointer and stick it down in the hole. The pinpointer goes crazy over the entire hole. I scoop out some of the red stuff and wave the pinpointer over it. It goes crazy, so I wave the scoop over the Z coil, it reacts but not overly so. I'm about to give up for the 3rd time, but I decided to dig out all the red stuff and take some home to pan out. I've had trouble with the Z over this red stuff in the past, but never this deep and Difficult usually cleans it up. Now I'm digging in earnest and using my pocket knife to carve this stuff out of the wall of the hole. I get another scoop of it and wave it over the coil, nothing this time. I am baffled so I stick the Z back down there and bam this thing is sounding like a fist sized chunk of foil. I take the Sens all the way down to 1 and stick it back in the hole, still banging like a gong. I get the scoop and start scraping everything else out down to this red clay layer. I'm piling it away from the hole to try and separate the sounds. As I pick up the Z to check the hole again, it sounds off over the pile. I got you this time you little bugger. I"m thinking it must be a 1/2 oz craggy specimen, see for yourself. I measured the hole off on the handle of my pick. Right at 19.5 inches deep. That's not including the 4 inches the first guy dug and left it thinking it was a hot rock. That's awfully deep for 2.4 grams, even for the Z machine. I'm thinking that hot red clay somehow magnified and distorted the signal. I've dug plenty of deep gold with this machine, but nothing like that. I'd like to say the steelPHASE enhancer did the trick, but that would probably be a stretch. This was just an oddball situation with a crazy sounding nugget. I did recheck the hole and my piles, there was still some reactivity in some of that crumbling red stuff, but not enough to convince me it was golden. I was running the Z machine in HY/Normal/ Sens 16/0 Threshold/Low Smoothing. Beatup- This is the same washes your brother favors past the power lines at Sugarloaf peak. I wonder if he missed this one.

Lunk what a terrific collection of finds. Well done mate ?

WTG Steve! I always enjoy your write-ups and observations. I use the B and Z booster and have found several nuggets in areas that have been detected by myself and many others. I'm thinking it was the booster that helped me find them. Norm

Back in the saddle, again! Rick

Not quite sure where to put this Steve. It will probably have some interest for western prospectors and the eastern hunters are going to find it really useful. You decide if it needs to be moved and I'll go with it. Land Matters has begun a new section on their website for new projects in development. The most recent new project is Forest Ownership. This new map tracks Forest Boundaries as well as both surface and subsurface (mineral) ownership on the National Forest System. "Forest Ownership" may sound funny since the common assumption is that all National Forest lands are created equal and are owned by the federal government. Unfortunately it's not really that simple. Land status within the forests varies greatly depending on several factors. We hope by developing this map set individual areas of the forests can be better understood by those who live near, use and research the United States forest reserves. These maps should help you understand why some areas of forest are off limits, why you see houses and farms within a National Forest and who owns the mineral rights in any particular area of a forest. In particular visitors to the eastern states forests can discover why they don't have the free use rights western forest users do. This map is going to be an eye opener for those who believe that all National Forests are the same. Many of the eastern forests are not owned or controlled by the federal government. Often when the U.S. has purchased some rights to surface use the minerals and timber are still owned in whole or in part by private individuals or corporations. When you go to the New Projects Page be sure and click on the "Forest Ownership" tab in the center of the page and read the background I've written for these new map layers. That background can really help you understand what you are seeing on these maps. The purpose of introducing these new projects while they are still in development is to get user feedback. You can have a direct influence on how these maps are developed and used as well as helping Land Matters define which projects should receive priority in their development. Please leave any comments you may have and if a particular project seems worthwhile consider supporting that project to help it along. Here is the link to the New Projects Page. Just click on the "Forest Ownership" tab then choose the Forest Ownership map link on the right to open the new project map in a new tab. Barry

Another fantastic development of your mapping / land use and ownership system Barry. It truly amazes me what you folks have accomplished. Land Matters is the most complete one stop land information repository available to the general public as well as professionals. Thank you to you and all of your people, hope you have a great thanksgiving. Mike

great piece of gold and a what looks like a great afternoon dig.

Not Gerry but.... The TDI Beach hunter is just a TDI SL in a waterproof box. It is not new, and any performance questions can be answered by viewing similar questions about the TDI SL over the years (see link below). At most there may have been a tiny performance gain by going to a hardwired coil, but for all intents performance is going to be identical to the TDI SL. The TDI SL does also benefit from boosting the battery power via aftermarket batteries like the RNB Innovations (Reidman) battery packs. Thoughts On The TDI SL ? Dec 7, 2016 TDI Air Test & Battery Notes May 25, 2016 TDI Pro and The TDI SL Sep 4, 2015 Batteries And The TDI SL Mar 22, 2015 You can toss the "NASA Tom 40% rule" if it includes a provision requiring a PI to be better at hitting low conductors than a VLF. Most any VLF can runs circles around a PI when it comes to sensitivity to small low conductors. That only changes when mineralization gets so severe a VLF shuts down, and under those circumstances a PI can pull ahead, but only because a PI handles mineralization better than a VLF. White's TDI Information page

Gerry, Thanks for reporting on the new TDI Beach Hunter as there isn't much info available on the net or Youtube. A few questions come to mind: 1. Does the TDI BH meet NASA Tom's 40% rule: an attribute that is at a minimum 40% greater/better than your best VLF ID capable unit? Is the PI 40% more sensitive at finding small & tiny gold or 40% greater depth on low conductors? 2. The TDI BH doesn't have iron discrimination, did the high tone audio work well enough for your needs? 3. The 12" Dual Field coil is designed for high sensitivity to small targets, deep penetration in salt and other mineralization. What were your thoughts on pin-pointing while in the water? 4. What pulse delay settings did you find best for your detecting? I'm considering the TDI BH because it's available now, the TDI is a proven design and White's provides great customer service. RNB makes a great Li-ion battery pack, so no problem with detecting time. Thanks, Bill

Come to think of it, I've never filmed myself either. Hmm. Seriously though, it had never occurred to me to doubt Draytons finds, I just don't get that vibe. The problem is more with the fame whores on youtube, everyone is a star, I guess we've come to the point of expecting video evidence now. Most the local detectorists are on youtube and I think one of them is cheating. I don't know for sure if this particular guy is cheating, it's just a gut feeling, he throws off all kinds of odd tells. In the same way I can totally believe another detectorist finds like Garys. The problem with demanding a video, is a video can be cheated too. Spanish ships really did sink, I myself have figured out to find gold in my crap town so no doubt somebody can find Spanish treasure if they put in the time and the conditions are right. Where is he getting all this Spanish jewelry in the first place? See the emeralds in some of that stuff? That type of jewelry can be tested to verify its authenticity, it doesn't just appear out of thin air. If it was already found, its been documented. Have you noticed he doesn't just hunt in the ocean, but in the swamp on the other side of a jetty? That is the kind of thing a real detectorist figures out, the boat was blown over the jetty in a hurricane. So we can agree to disagree on this one, I'm totally fine with it. Drayton treasure.

I was reading this on my phone at work yesterday and I thought gee maybe this guy knows something about what Gary finds this season when all of a sudden I heard this big wooshing sound, turns out it was the joke flying over my head.

Nothing much to say until they get into user hands for field reports. The ORX like it’s name is an odd duck. Nothing that most Deus owners will be interested in since it is a step down from a Deus. Some may be interested in it as a lower cost alternative to the Deus, but the emphasis really is on gold prospecting and the price difference is not that much anyway. And in my opinion prospectors have been overwhelmed by too many choices lately, a complete flip from a few years ago. Is there seriously anyone left in the U.S. that is interested in gold prospecting with a metal detector who does not already have one? Or two? Part of me wants to get one of these simply because I have used every VLF nugget hunter made in the last couple decades. The truth however is it is just another hot single frequency detector, one of many. The ORX won’t detect gold any better than a dozen other detectors that are already in existence. The only real attraction for me is I do like the way the Deus and Orx collapse down quickly, making for a nice unit to pack in a rucksack. However, the fact that I already know how it will perform without even laying hands on one means that I have finally accepted that single frequency has hit the limits, and trying one out would simply be going through the motions. I am sure it would just be a repeat of what I already experienced with the Deus HF elliptical coil so I doubt I will bother. That’s not to say this would not be a great little detector for somebody, but in my case, been there, done that.

Hi Guys, I just saw this post. I'm the owner of Lost Treasures Australia (retail shop in Brisbane) and I have been selling Whites machines in Australia for over 2 years. I have plenty of Gold Master 24ks in stock (RRP $1289 AUD, currently 10 units). I also have 2 of the new TDI Beach Hunter machines (RRP $2269 AUD). I have GMT, TDI, V3i units also. Details below: Lost Treasures Shop 1 / 821 Stafford Road Everton Park Brisbane, Queensland, 4053 Australia Tel: (07) 3191 4224 Email: info@losttreasures.com.au Website: www.losttreasures.com.au Cheers Justin Edit: I'm also finally listed on their website https://www.whiteselectronics.com/contact-us/outside-the-u-s-canada/

Gerry Thanks for the pictures. Chuck