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For me this was a real opportunity to help my friends get their enterprise off of the ground. There was much work to be done and everyone pitched in and fixed everything..I have a few great stories from this adventure and one terrible happening for me... My mate of 44 yrs passed away and I was almost totally devastated by this. Fortunately I had Moore Creek to come too and this work helped me pass this rough time...One afternoon during this startup time I decided to give my Minelab PI a try..I wandered away from the main camp area and walked on a road above what would be the High banking area, I was testing the berm that a dozer had kicked up years ago... Holy Smokes. Weeeee Ooooop. I dug around a little and out popped a beautiful Slug.. Needless to say after putting the gold in my pouch I hunted around to see if there was Moore lol.... I walked back to the camp, everyone was still there chatting, so I put the nugget on the table for everyone to see... He he the conversations stopped......

I started off last year running the 800 until about Sept. and went back to the CTX until this week. I picked up a 600 and a 6" for hunting trashy sites instead of struggling with the CTX. I plan on using the CTX for my deep trolling and the Nox in the water and in the trash. I went to a WW1/WW2 dump site we've been hunting on and off for the last month, this place is loaded with iron and other debris you'd find at a dump. I set the Nox on Park 1, 2-tone, tone break at 18 with the volume off from -9 to 18, recovery speed set to 3 and iron bias at 0. I'm sure I missed some stuff in the lower range, but, time was an issue and I knew what I wanted to find, The 600 and the 6" coil worked exactly as I hoped and I started finding desirable targets from the beginning and until it was time to head home. I was able to find some nice relics with a couple of coins, a merc and a wheaty to top off the day. Thanks for looking.

Steve has listed many valuable USGS books, publications and other items for you to obtain or find in a library so you can see where gold was found..This makes decisions so much easier about areas you might be interested in.. One bit of advice that I learned from these publications and I have had most of them for years for I studied the ones I was interested in carefully ... I soon realized these old time geologists that traveled to these sites many times on horseback is this, they were very thorough in their investigations... The language they used to describe what they saw made me realize this was the info I needed to successfully use a Detector in that area.. These words that you are looking for are Coarse, Shotty, Rough, Nuggety Heavy Etc..These are areas that contain gold that can easily be found by a persistent hunter.. Good Luck, Good Hunting and Never give up.....

I’ve got my lads home this summer so I’ve been grabbing every chance I can get to drag them out detecting. For me finding some gold is always a good way to get some ready cash for incidental things like beer which both boys now seem to have discovered a taste for.? My attitude is the more I can get them out detecting with them the better because they will soon enough be pursuing their own life directions and if my life at that age is anything to go by no doubt it will be in another town a long way away. So in exchange for beer, a bed, air con, food and the odd bit of cash here and there, oh and don’t forget always running out of data on our internet plan,? I get to occasionally grab one or both lads and go do a bit of father son detecting. Yesterday was a lot of fun, the weather has returned to hot and muggy again (typical February weather in Central QLD) so an early start was necessary. This time we decided to target an area not far from a high voltage power line, not because we love the constant discordant threshold (The GPZ is heaps better than any of gold machine in this regard), but because the gold tends to be chunkier thanks to the area not having been detected as often due to the interference. The keys to detecting here are to find a clear frequency for the location, this is changed pretty regularly as the frequency of the line changes often too, I also find lowering the sensitivity helps a lot and also backing off the B&Z booster a bit to take the edge off the variation. There is also a fair amount of trash so we tend to just focus on signals that sound a bit buried. I was lucky and pinged a deep 1 gram bit only 30 minutes into the session, I held off letting Tim know because its better in a nasty area like this to keep things low key and not too competitive. Being hot and sweaty as well as listening to an annoying unstable threshold is bad enough without feeling pressured from Dad. Anyway this session was kinder to me and I managed to ping quite a few chunky bits poking my coil here and there amongst the old boys diggings on the edges of the drainage. Poor Tim was struggling he had pockets full of lead and trash but no gold, so I suggested he head on over to were I pinged the first bit. Right on knock off time I saw Tim grinning triumphantly and he then refusing to finish off for the day until he had covered the area more thoroughly. Long story short, Tim got the biggest nugget for the session sitting right at 1.6 grams with a grand total of 7.4 grams between us. Seeing how were are partners we spilt the gold with 3.7 grams each or $214 AU for a few hours work, no wonder he likes coming home for a visit.?? JP Some pics of yesterdays session and a few from another one last week. The gold is just a bonus, the true gold is the time spent with my boy.

There’s been some sand movement in SoCal beaches and I got there just in time to get a few crumbs. There was another hunter there before me since I could see the opened holes and junk laying besides them. Luckily he left me a few keepers. I hunted 3 days for a total of $35+ in clad and 5 gold pieces. Good luck out there and happy hunting.

Great nugget, every time time that I see that it reminds me of my favorite Moore Creek nugget. I found it on the trail leading over to Jesse's hill. Sorry that the picture isn't better.

All I can say George is that you sure helped make up one hell of a crew. Seems like there was nothing we could not get done when we put our minds to it. Moore Creek was an amazing journey. I am glad it gave you a place to heal... a great big hug to you my friend! And of course you go and find perhaps the most spectacular specimen found at the mine. Far from the largest but lots of museums would be happy to display it.

I think the videos great and could care less what detector he was swinging or what coil was attached. I’m also pleased to see Chris is still making the effort to do these sorts of things, I ran out of steam ages ago thanks to continuous negative comments. It takes huge effort to rig up cameras and get video. When your a shop owner the opportunity to get out prospecting is VERY limited, for Chris to take time out of his precious detecting time to generate content to share with others shows a lot of dedication and good luck to him if it generates some interest in his business. There aren’t that many dealers out there who walk the walk, so kudos to him. JP

Driving to Vegas from NorCal for a company conference and taking a few extra days to fit in some detecting to and fro ? Nox and MMK loaded, along with 6" & 15" Nox coils, and the 7" concentric MMK coil, lots of iron patches to try, some other areas more sparse with targets, yet great finds have been made in those fields, so hopefully the EQ800 with the 15" coil will light that field back up (Tom bagged a gold coin from it and I've dug a key couple of date seateds). Some other areas I want to try, including an area I suspect may have been a wagon gathering campsite, the 15" coil will come in handy for zig zagging through this area to see if there's any signs of past life to confirm my wagon campsite theory. Another area we detected in the past where I dug a super deep piece of indian trade silver, the type you see more of back east. It was super deep, and the silver was heavily tarnished and kind of crinkled up. I thought it was a junk metal tag from something modern, and it wasn't until I got it home and was cleaning my finds that I figured out the treasure I'd dug. Tom and I detected that site again and didn't find much, so he wrote it off, and I have to agree it's not promising, but given how deep this big trade silver piece was, I think the 15" Nox coil might light up something our 11" coils missed (Exp2, F75 and Racer2), it's a long shot. It's always fun to hit your old sites with your new machines, each one brings something different to the table, finding stuff your other machines didn't for whatever reason.

Published on Jan 19, 2019 - Just a quick video showing the benefits of the Vista Gold running at a higher kHz and using zero gain in highly mineralised soil Here are the videos, after further testing I can confirm that the 15 kHz hits stronger on deep silver in clean Non Mineralised Soil and both are exactly the same on the gold coin at depth in Non Mineralised Soil.

And You Thought Gold is Heavy? Wow Monster Pieces ? Enjoy! Ig

Thanks to everyone's input. I pulled the trigger on the 600 and am looking forward to getting outside once the snow melts. I loved how simple it was getting it out of the box and put together. Before I opened the box I was fairly intimidated. Getting it all together was intuitive and easy.

Wow, that is some awesome relics. History unearthed. Thanks for sharing.

Those are called dendrites, a little rare perhaps...

You guys!!! What amazing advice for a hypothetical best friend going to a hypothetical gold show in hypothetical Quartzsite this hypothetical weekend! One thing I didn’t think about - gold shows in the desert don’t have many long-handled beach scoops. Ah well! I did see that banjo pan and it looks weird and fun. Very curious about it, thanks for the suggestion! Going to try to get a live demo tomorrow. Definitely taking all the “how not to die in the desert” suggestions to heart. Sunscreen is the thing I always forget. Sigh. Are all the Garrett pinpointers the same? I haven’t seen any orange ones, all these carrots are black! Heirloom varieties I guess. Also eyeing crevicing tools and rock picks. Should probably also eye some eye protection, hmmm.... Or maybe I should spent less time shopping and more time prospecting! I’m such an armchair hobbyist.... Oh, and I have NOT won the door prize raffle. YET.

It’s been a lot of years since I last met Chris. At one time he was very visible in the prospecting world but I think family life caught up with him. Very nice to see him out and about again in this excellent video! Though I barely recognized his new furry look. Published on Feb 3, 2019 - “Come join me in the remote goldfields of Arizona as I revisit one my favorite old patches and pull off a few more gold nuggets with my metal detector.”

As some of you know, I head south each winter with a few clients and have some sun in the fun, with a few stiff drinks to kill any bacteria on my ice. I always take a detector and sometimes even test a few for manufactures (like I did last year with the TDI Beach Hunter). Anyway, I seem to find interesting metal objects in my scoop and on occasion they are still moving (that is for another story). So here are a few photos of finds and laughs. 1st pic of at least 10 different countries and some of their coins. Some of them I know others I'll need to look up in a book some day. 2nd is a waterproof Fugi camera. I took the card out and guess what was on it? Now here is a weird twist. There was video footage of me metal detecting. They actually filmed me. 3rd is a gold plated miniature brass shovel. Now I know there are some serious gold diggers walking those beaches, but now they seem to wear a shovel? I guess that should make it easy for the old guy to figure out their intent? 4th is an interesting piece. I thought it was an aluminum dog whistle but blowing on it numerous times has not produced a peep yet? Maybe one of those secret silent ones? My other thought was some kind of mini magnifier, but each time I look through I can't see anything. Sure does have an odd smell though. 5th. Is a Samsung phone. I've found a few throughout the years and you better have a serious scoop to reach them as sometimes the detector will go near 2 feet deep. I realize it is not a ring, but I also know a Rolex watch could be down there too. I'll be posting some of the jewelry later on as I am still getting caught up with customer emails and phone calls to get them detectors. Until next post, enjoy and if you know any info of my finds, please chime in.

It’s a knee jerk reaction to the way these guys get treated elsewhere John. They don’t know you quite as well as the rest of us It does show how words said in jest can go sideways on the internet. The sad thing to me is some dealers are the most knowledgeable resources we have. Yet they tend to get driven off forums. Some deserve it for being too aggressive, but often it is other dealer dirty tricks at work. Don’t think it does not happen. Anyway, all knowledge is welcome here as are all dealers as long as their first goal is to inform. My theory is any dealer working to simply inform deserves some business. I consider myself lucky if I can get people like JP, Doc, Gerry, Rob, Chris etc to stop by and visit us. In that regard this thread is awesome!

See what happens when you have a forum full of great people?! ? I am taking the question to mean that the detector choice is done, and it sounds like multipurpose type detecting. I use the same basic tool set for most everything, the main thing that changes is the digging tool. All detectors should normally have a scuff cover on the coil. Minelab and Nokta/Makro coils come with scuff covers, but most everyone else comes without. I use them. I do believe in taking the best care of my detector’s possible. With the fast release of machines these days it is likely that I will sell whatever I have just prior to warranty expiration. I want the max I can get so I am not going to beat my gear up. I treat detector’s like expensive electronics because in many cases they are. I always apply some sort of screen saver first thing out of box. And then I usually use at least a pod cover in addition to the screensaver (otherwise dust in the pod cover will scratch the screen). Larger body detector’s I may also wrap the control box. I am pretty much boycotting dry land machines that weigh over 4 lbs and waterproof machines that weigh more than 5 lbs. Anything heavier a harness or bungee support system can save shoulders, etc. On dry land I alway use my long time favorite Whites trash/treasure pouch which has room for little things like emergency toilet paper and a $1 rain poncho. I love the pouch so much White’s discontinued it so I bought a couple extras when I had the chance. There are many other options and people have all kinds of preferences. Some like mesh bottoms to let sand out but I dig too much tiny stuff for that. But even then you can put the tiny good finds in a separate compartment or container. Whatever. The main thing is have a good way to collect and remove trash. In my case the belt and pouch support storage of things that might otherwise go in a small rucksack. The pouch is on the belt, my digging tool and pinpointer go in pouch. A loop on the belt holds a pick if need be. For park detecting and digging deep coins I use a standard Lesche digging tool and will forever. No need to change... it’s always got the job done. For jewelry and clad byproduct I use a large screwdriver and I generally prefer that type of detecting to deep plugging. I always use a pinpointer in parks and sometimes elsewhere. I have had good luck with Garrett pinpointers though it’s obvious from online watching that they have a failure rate. I had one with a bad button... still have it for some reason. But my Garrett Carrot is flawless and easy. I also like my Fisher F-Pulse but it seems it had a lot of teething pains for early buyers. Hopefully the bugs are worked out now as it is a good pinpointer. For most people I think the Garrett is stil just a tiny bit more straight forward in use (the Fisher has deep menu options via pressing that one button different ways. You can get into there and screw it up easier than is possible with the Garrett. Nugget detecting not much changes.... just digging with a pick now and using a plastic nugget scoop for recovery. I add vials to the pouch for small gold and a GPS to the kit. I have a rucksack more for emergency supplies and water etc. for that type of detecting. See the link for that stuff. The beach I am either mask and snorkel or walking the beach. In either case my belt now has a small mesh goodie bag with a magnet in it to capture hair pins / ferrous trash that might slip through. Wading or on beach I have a couple digging scoops I use depending on how hard the bottom is. Basically a long handle heavy duty stainless steel scoop for rocky bottoms, and a lighter duty scoop for sand. See the one on far right and far left in photo below. That’s most of it for me and all kinds of options offered by others on this thread to consider. Thanks everyone!

Banjo Pan from Mike Pung (Gold Cube). Here's Mike showing how to dry pan with it: And a demo when you have water available:

Get a gold scratch tester for your jewelry finds. They should have designed the pro find 35 so you can find the on /off button easier without having to fumble around looking for it. Still prefer the carrot. strick

Hi Folks I hope everyone is doing well over here. Ground conditions have been tough with the weather being so cold but things warmed up just enough to allow some detecting here in the mid Hudson valley. Unfortunately it's going to turn colder again over the coming week or so which will probably shut me down again. Anyhow, I went back to a site where I have discovered quite a few Connecticut coppers over the years and decided to hit a little bit further out from the center of the site. I came upon a 18-20 signal and ended up recovering a nice 1773 half reale. Shortly afterwards I discovered another copper believe it is a KG III. It sure was nice to get out. Recovering both coins.. I was using the 15-inch coil field 2, sensitivity at 25, ground balance of zero, iron bias was at 2 and recovery speed of 7. HH Everyone..

If you don’t know if you’ll stick with it or not. Buy one detector and both of you use it and see if you like MDing. Maybe a lower cost one. If you KNOW you going to enjoy the sport/hobby, after awhile of use and stay with it, then I would invest in a couple of “above mid-range” detectors. My choice would then be two Minelab Equinox 600s or one Minelab Equinox 800 and one 600. You mentioned you had a creek that flows by your property. That’s where the 800 with its gold detecting capabilities (think gold nuggets) would come into play. The Minelab Equinox detectors are waterproof to 10’ and they are quite capable detectors. Let me state that I’m the guy that would buy a Martin acoustic guitar as my first guitar and not buy cheap. Lol! Best of luck to you both! BeachHunter

I am copying part of a post by Badger in NH on the Dankowski forum. Will this beach performance transfer over to hot dirt and more nuggets? I don't know but this guys results are certainly interesting. “For the depth testing I had a silver quarter, a silver dime and a medium sized mans 14k gold ring. I had drilled tiny holes in the center of the coins, ran a nylon string through each one and tied a knot on the end. This is to ensure that coins stay flat when buried. I would bury the coin at 15 inches and slowly pull the coin towards the surface a little at a time until it just came into detection range. When I reached the edge of the max depth that the coin could be detected, I grabbed the string where it came out of the sand, pulled up the coin and measured the length of the string. It worked perfectly. The gold ring is attached to the end of a fabric measuring tape. I tested the Tarsacci MDT 8000 against the Minelab Equinox 800. Settings were - Tarsacci - GB 600, SB 26-30 depending on Freq, Sense 7, Threshold 0, Disc 0, Mix mode. Equinox - Beach 1, Sense 23, 2 tones, AM on, recovery 6. To achieve a max depth designation, the detector must have a clear repeatable non-ferrous tone and reasonably accurate numerical ID. Tarsacci max depth on the silver Quarter was 13". Equinox was 10". Tarsacci max depth on the silver Dime was 12.5". Equinox was 9". (All the Tarsacci frequencies picked up the coins at max depth but 6.4 kHz sounded best.) Tarsacci max depth on the gold ring was 13". (All freqs picked it up but 18 kHz sounded best) Equinox had an iffy signal at 11" and 10" but only got a decent tone and ID at 9". I tried radically changing the GB number on the Tarsacci to see what that would do but came back to 600 because it got the best depth. I forgot to test Black Sand mode but will do that another time. So the Tarsacci wins the depth test by a large margin. I am extremely happy with it.” Tarsacci MDT 8000 Data & Reviews

For a new kid in town you sure seem to know a lot about detectors, enough to be opinionated.. Anyhow... I'm sorry needing to say this, kind of again, but you continue to hold us to an un-necessary disadvantage.. How can we possibly give you better / best choices, or can you expect better information, when the extent of what we know about where you want to prospect is 'somewhere in the mother lode'.. Further, from what little you've shared location-wise and otherwise it continues sounding to me as though a detector isn't even the correct recovery tool / method for serious exploration and recovery of values.. If you have exclusive access to a land in the mother lode, theoretically meaning you cannot be 'claimed out from under', how about at least sharing with us which county or mining district the property is located -- and better yet the N-S-E-W area of same..? How many acres are you talking about..? Is it private property that just happens to be surrounded by old mines or is it someone else's claim..? If claim, patented or unpatented..? Has the parcel of land ever been worked (mined in any manner) in the past..? Are there any visible outcroppings on this land..? Mountainous terrain, hilly, rolling, flat..? Etc. You really need to give us useful information to work with if you truly expect useful information and recommendations in return.. Because as things stand right now it sounds to me as though a detector would be useful only for picking up surface residual from hard rock mining.. And I again have to ask what makes you think there's near-surface gold on this property when it's surrounded by mines..? What's different about this property from its neighbors..? It continues feeling to me what you're wanting to do is detect leftovers from hard rock mining rather than committing to working the property properly, either because of the hassle and expense of doing so or more likely because it's already been mined.. Please convince me otherwise.. Swamp EDIT: Please understand the above is meant to help you help yourself as well as for us to be able to help you the best ways possible; it is not meant as a slight or cut.. Having a permission to detect a gold producing property is great.. However, if that property and everything around it are hard rock producers and one wants to go in swinging a detector, welll, expectations and methodologies need adjusted..

We’ve dodged the flooding and also a lot of the rain so the farmers are pretty hopeful for more down this way.

Mark did a fabulous job. Since I am not worried about the frequency stuff what I learned is that the Noise Cancel numbers do exactly the opposite of what I would have assumed. Pushing noise cancel numbers lower pushes the frequency higher. Usually these shifts are trivial to performance, but in a “no-EMI” location you could set the Noise Cancel as low as possible to optimize a high frequency like 40 kHz and as high as possible to optimize the single low frequency options like 5 kHz. I doubt there is a measurable effect on performance but it might lend a psychological boost that does help at times.

Excellent day with the Boy...great memories for you both and gold to boot! It is good to see you post, Jonathan! happy days fred

Dang! Those words are a better description of me than of the gold I find. Had a bit of a blizzard her last night - 15 degrees this morning- A perfect day for research and Steve has saved me a lot of time finding some obscure publications.

Nice hunt...thanks for posting your settings...there is a similar spot like that near where I live that I'd like to hunt some day Strick

I thought so as well. I wonder if when they put them on clearance they moved well enough they thought they'd give it another stab? The machine is back up to $400.00, if they'd leave it at the $289.00 I'd wager their volume would be better. Again, to beat a dead horse, if they'd simply put in a little iron disc this machine would sell like hot cakes.

That's a great find!!! I have always considered coins made into decorative items to be in the jewelry dept., and it's a lot different then finding an old gold coin in the wild. I've done both, so I can relate ?

The waterproof 24k was at the quartzsite gold show

good work. nice to see results that reward your planning.

To paraphrase Fred: There is more than one knife in a kitchen! Mitchel

Nice hunt!!

HOLY SMOKES, Dan! What a hunt!! Steve

I had a bounty hunter going back to the early/mid 90's. Not a bad machine but lacked features back then. I would suggest a machine you can use for general purpose such as the Garrett AT Pro. It wiil do great on relics, fresh water wading, excellent for coin shooting in parks and can handle salt but will take some practice with ground balancing. The AT Pro is really well built. I had purchased an aftermarket LiPo battery pack around $80 or so that gives me well over 40 hours run time with no fade in performance. I also picked up the Nel Big coil for it which is a really nice coil that goes incredibly deep it tends to be way too heavy to swing all day. I use the Nel big on the dunes and can hear beer cans 3'+ down in dry sand, hear typical pocket change at more than a foot. The big coil actually does really good in the wet sand, less chattery than the dry but drags way too much to be in the surf with.

In parks, I usually use Park 2 these days, but probably should be using Park 1 for maybe a little extra depth on coins. After all, most coins are sufficiently not vertical to register, and it generally makes sense to play the odds. The coin on edge issue is another reason I wish Minelab would open up its machines to the coil makers. There are coils like the Tornado with reputations for doing a better job hitting coins on edge, and it would be nice to have them for the Nox.

Yes by all means don't do a video demonstrating the capabilities of accessories, like coils. We don't really want to see the amazing performance that innovative products give in actual real life circumstances. We would rather just be fed hype through print advertising that tell us about how the item performs without anything to back it up. My personal opinion is, the medium of YouTube, with it's plethora of informative videos, has led us all to be more informed and educated consumers. I want to know about new innovative products and I am especially excited to actually see them in use doing what they are advertised to do. So, bottom line, Carry on Chris! Doc

Hi Chase, I'm running the upgraded version. As an aside I still find the depth marker to be wildly erratic. It becomes very important to learn to understand the sounds the detector makes when the depth gage is weird and there is no modulation. But, just to be clear, I love this machine. And, while I am babbling, I did something the last few times I was out that totally changed my detecting experience; I turned up the Volume Adjust. Holy cr*p, what a difference! All the chirps and whispers became much easier to interpret. I had not even thought to do that until I was on the beach last week and the surf was making so much noise I just cranked the Volume Adjust. I liked it so much, I tried it at a park I go to and was very pleasantly surprised there as well. fwiw...

It plays nicely with the Nox 800 too. Great for parks. Probably not needed at the beach. Mine has got a good workout recently just around the lawn and nature strip.

Hello Mark, I have done "in ground" tests with the TDIBH and my results show a 15% performance jump when comparing the stock battery pack to the 14.4V (Nominal but comes off the charger at about 16.8V) pack. The pack I use is a 3.35Ah and I get a comfortable 7-8 hours before needing to recharge (the inbuilt BMS will automatically shutdown the detector if the voltage gets too low). When water hunting in 5 to 6 feet of water, I really struggle to dig the deep targets over 15" even with 30 pounds of lead ! Tony

While folks are screwing around with tests, I'm out banging in nuggets, so I say go for it, a detector is only as good as the persons research using it...hehe....

Lol, the only almost uncirculated thing I found there was the bottle of whiskey that had been hidden in the rafters for 50 or so years

I got you a bumper sticker for the Razor...it's the closest thing I could find....

I value a detector comparison test over a known target only slightly more than an air test. The test does prove, however, that the Tarsacci will find coins with holes and strings tied to them buried for less than 15 minutes better than an equinox. But it is good to see Minelab getting some strong competition. The real test will be to see which will withstand a day of being transported in a wildly out of control Polaris Razor.

Welcome to the forum! It’s cool where you live. ;-{>

8 x 18650 can fit but very difficult with the balancing wires or BMS fitted. I am happy with the 4S1P setup......7 hours run time at the higher voltage. Easy enough to swap out fresh batteries on the beach and away from the water. TDI platform is safe at 16.8v.

Sorry to take the thread off track, but on the advice offered before, I thought id try the Nox using a lower sensitivity. Giving it a run on the front nature strip (not gold-bearing country). I used park 1 and lowered the gain down to 8 (think FP is 20) The machine was stable and quiet. Within minutes I got a nice signal that read #22, which was a $1 dollar coin. A target number of #17 revealed a fifty cent coin and a #15 revealed a pull tab. A few squashed bottle tops read #21. I think id watched too many youtube videos and had the wrong impression as to how fast to swing the coil. This time I went slowly and the targets were distinguishable unlike before were I was hearing signals all over the place. I know this is not mineralised soil but it still showed me what the nox is capable of when the sensitivity is turned down a bit. So thanks again for the helpful advice. Looking forward to SLOWLY learning this machine.