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But luckily a gold one, 14k. I got up today for an early low tide hunt. I got to the beach at 1am and started my hunt with a buddy. An hour plus into the hunt and all we had was just aluminum and a couple of pennies even though we were covering from the mid upper slope to the waters edge of a negative tide. Since things weren’t looking good I decided to just cover a 10 foot wide section crossing between the damp and wet sand. About and hour later I dug this 14k beauty with real diamonds. I gridded that area and found nothing else in that section. The rest of the hunt was uneventful but my mission was accomplished so I was happy. Thanks for reading and good luck out there.

I live in Southern California and we have many beaches where you can detect all night long. If you have never done a night hunt I highly recommend them. Now is a good time to go out because the moon is nearly full. Most of my hunt last night I turned off my light and just enjoyed the clear skies, stars, planets and moon. The comet is long gone when I get out at midnight but the moon is directly above. I watched it set several hours later. One of the reasons I went out was because I read a surf report that said waves had come from a direction that makes one of my beaches 'come alive' with targets if they are big enough. I went out before dark and I didn't see any of these 5 ft waves so I was skeptical. When I got to my area there was a cut. Not a big one but bigger than any in a long time. So on a relative scale it was big. I worked my way along it and immediately started finding shallow quarters. Shallow is one or two scoops with an 8" basket scoop. It was fun. I followed the cut quickly just in case someone else came out (they did) and then I doubled back later in the session. There were lots of targets. I dug over 150 by my actual count. There were 34 quarters, 30 dimes, 20 nickels and 40 pennies. I also found some micro jewelry (lets me know I'm not always going too fast) and a couple of cheap rings. That represents well over 500 digs with my pull it towards me scoop. I couldn't work a beach like this with a shovel scoop. I couldn't find ringsville last night but I was searching the patch diligently for it. Better luck next time.

As other members here have observed, we had a little sand movement at some local beaches. I didn't know that when I drove down with my TDI BeachHunter the first night but I knew the tides were favorable so I was hoping for some recent drops, at least. When I got down to the wet sand, the moonlight allowed to see some small cuts in the beach with some nicely angled slopes highlighted with streaks of black sand. Shortly after turning the detector on I started hitting targets with about every other step. I was digging so much trash that I started thinking that a non-pulse detector might have been a better choice. However, I was finding a few lead sinkers and clad coins and within the first hour I scooped out a nice sized men's ring which looked like the right color and felt good in my hand. A short time later I added a beautifully blackened silver band to cap off a relatively short but productive hunt. In my car I was able to make out a "14K" stamp on the gold ring. On the second night I picked up right where I left off the night before. I stayed with the TDI even though I knew that I would be digging lots of trash. I just love the way it belts out a tone on even small targets and soon dug a "soft" sounding signal that turned out to a medium sized gold chain that was stiffened from the time spent in the elements, an apparent sign of a lower carat chain. Over the next 6 hours I was digging non-stop finding lots of clad coinage, trash and jewelry although most of the jewelry was costume jewelry with a few pieces of silver in the mix. I had found 6 rings by this time but all were junk save one thin, wire silver ring. The sun had risen, the tide was rising, people were starting to show up and my second battery pack was nearing the end of its charge so I started working my way up the coast towards my car. Walking through areas I had hunted earlier in the dark I was finding a few more targets here and there and acquired a nice tone in the wet sand. A couple of quick scoops and I was staring at an unbelievably bright gold ring sticking out of the wet sand. Now I have found a lot of gold rings before but I don't know if any of them rivaled the sight I was currently witnessing. The color of the ring was impossibly rich and I could see that it was beautifully crafted. I was tempted to take a picture with my cell phone but there were so many people around that I decided against it. I picked it up (felt glorious in my hand) and calmly put it into my zippered pouch. I dug one more target before my battery died, a "SOG" multi-purpose tool which was still in pretty decent shape. The third hunt was pretty uneventful as the sand had filled back in pretty noticeably. Another St. Christopher medal and small tungsten ring were the best of it. As you can see in the last picture, the ring is stamped "21K" which is almost 90 percent pure gold. It and the gold ring from the night before weigh about 7 grams each. The gold chain weighs a little over 6 grams and was challenging to clean. Oxidation occurred on the back of each link where soldering had, apparently, taken place. Perhaps a hand made chain??? It also had a couple of knots that were frozen in place. 10K gold often becomes brittle after being in salt water for some time and sure enough, I snapped off about 2 inches from one end while trying to loosen up the links. Sorry for the lengthy post but thanks for reading! GL&HH!

I thought I would share this. A few years ago, my family and I went of a trip to Germany for a week in the summer. My grand parents meet some German folks when they went and we meet up with them when we went. They own a dice of land where a lot of ww2 relics were found before. I took me metal detector and was able to talk them into letting me hunt it. I found a few other things, but this is probably the most interesting one. It is a original ww2 German helmet! I am very happy to have found it. It is in pretty good shape for being so old. Let me know what you think!

I decided to avoid heat stroke today by hunting at 6am. Went to an old farm pond close to a 1840's house. The old pond was a swimming hole for the owners back in the day. I was finding the usual farm debris when I got a really great hit. To my suprise out popped a 1945 Merc, but that wasn't all, four wheaties were keeping it company. I haven't found a merc in quite awhile and was wondering if I would ever find another. Two seconds after I filled that hole, I hit on a buffalo nickle. A little later I collected two more wheaties and three plain lincolns, a shotgun case, a giant 3 1/2'' brass ring and an unknown brass valve thingamajig. Any clues let me know, It has the word MAJOCA on the side. Overall I'm rating this as a damn good morning!!!

I got this one in an old yard, with my CTX. The owners are natives of the community and didn't have a clue as to who Barby was. Norm

Imagine It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to Fight or Shame for And no Nox and MDT too Imagine all the people living life in peace, you You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope some day you'll join me And all Forum's will be as one.

Good, concise description. Wikipedia is great for these kinds of details. Values and pretty pictures can be found here. Keep in mind that PCGS is a professional grading service. They grade, document, and seal the coin for a not-so-minimal cost. Their prices are retail, *after* that process. There are other similar services but NGC is the other big one here in the USA. Here is a photo of one of each: If you want more realistic prices, Ebay completed auctions give a much better indication. (And another warning -- coins that came from the ground are going to have less value on the market due to condition issues, including off-coloring. Cleaning may or may not help but it won't restore the coin to typical circulation conditions, which are more desirable to collectors.) BTW, as usual my posts tend to give information for many readers, not just the poster above. Geof, you may well know all of this, but some others probably don't.

Hello All!!! Just wanted to wish all the East Coast hunters, and visiting hunters out there, to Be Smart and Safe, pre and post storm!! No amount of potential detecting finds is worth risking your life!! As a Retired Public Safety Employee, i am extremely familiar with the many hazards during storms such as this one! Good Luck Detecting!!🍀🍀 I hope that you all suffer No loss, or damage!! And i look forward to the many great finds that this storm is likely to produce!! Maybe I'll see a few of you out there, if i get the chance!!👍👍

Beautiful hunts. Sometimes you just hit it right and have great results. Other times you try very hard and just get clad 😄 That's the fun of detecting for me. Waiting for that gold moment is addicting.

Love that 21K ring! You had a great couple of nights!

Great hunts.It seems you have a compass to find treasure.

That 21k ring is a beauty! The color looks fantastic.

I am also a native to the community. Barbie was a young blond lady who had distinct, rugged topography. She didn't talk much and could be rather stiff at times. I would often kidnap her and hold her for ransom from my sister. This is a very small community so it must be the same Barbie. Nice find. I love a mystery.

try fiddling with your swing speed over suspected bottle caps. Ie.: a momentarily faster clip. And then do the same for coins. You might be able to discern the caps vs the coins by the way they react to slower vs faster swing over them.

Click or double click for larger views ID# - Item 89 - Washington Silver Quarter, Clad Quarter 83 - Mercury Silver Dime, Roosevelt Silver Dime, Clad Dime 80 - Copper Lincoln Penny, Barber Dime 76 - Seated Liberty Half Dime, Indian Head Penny 75 - Zinc Lincoln Penny 52 - Nickels

Yes. Steve Wandt aka El Dorado on this forum has done quite a bit of custom jewelry for me using my own gold found prospecting.

It used to be hunting silver was all the rage, but machines in recent years have focused more on low conductor sensitivity. Be nice to see new models that truly target silver coins again in a significant way.

Hi all, I am Eric, I am 42 years old. I have been practicing metal detection for 25 years and gold panning for 18 years. I have 2 children who love to search for coins and gold with me. I live not far from Gaillac, a region known for its wine. I have an equinox 800 and one sluice box caledonan to look for gold in the river.

Copy/paste from my Facebook group post. Took my GPX 5000 for a walk today! 5 Roman coins, 1 coin dated 1874, 1 Hammered coin from the 16th Century, 1 half of a buckle (D shape) 15 - 16th Century if I'm correct, 1 big D Buckle from the 14th Century if im correct, 1 round copper objet that appears to be related to a lock (14 - 16th Century if I'm correct) and a little 🐕! Looks like silver but I'm not sure. Another hot day (34°C). These were all very deep targets! The round thingy was at +-50cm! (Really hard soil) The landowner's son saw that i was pulling these from crazy depths, so i told him to bring a backhoe someday... He likes the idea!😎 Can't wait to see what we going to find there!😁 Once again proving the GPX 5000 is a must have for coins and relics! (Something that Gordon Heritage has been doing for ages)😎 Now a little tip for all the coin ans relic hunters around the globe: Instead of buying lot's of machines, just save some cash to get one of these beasts! Just in case you don't know yet, this machine will see trough them Iron Slags or any other mineralization like if "they" weren't there! Roman areas and Medieval areas for example. I'm out!😊 Be lucky!😄 Cheers😁

Simplex Hunt with the NEW 8.5” Searchcoil Part 1 By Sven Stau July 12, 2020 Now I have read all about people having complaints the Simplex is to chattery and just noisy to use. So Nokta/Makro came out with Update 2.78 for those that don’t want a hot rod of a detector. My Simplex has not been updated to 2.78, didn’t feel the need to. Loaded on my Simplex is 2.77. After a number of hours bench testing targets of various sorts from coins to gold and silver rings indoors. There was really no EMI issues living in this high rise. Maybe just a bit of noise at 7 bars, max. sensitivity. Much more quiet at 6 bars and silent or almost at 5 bars. This gave some indication how the detector would react in the wild. Both new 8.5” round DD and the 9.5 x 5” coils were bench tested for air depth, reaction time, target ID, masking. First off, both coils are of the usaul high quality found supplied with Nokta/Makros other upper end detectors. They did not cheapen out, just because the Simplex is supposed to be an entry level detector. Both coils were impressive on the bench. Both coils would will really enhance a detectorists detecting ability to handle much more situations, hunting styles and types of hunting. Both coils have no issues locating the usual good targets most are after. Target ID’s are more accurate, junk targets do bounce or have somewhat consistent ID numbers. Modes seem a bit better defined. Pinpointing is much easier, center of the 8.5” coil if using the pinpoint button or edge of the coils tip if using the pull back method. Canadians will be interested on how it fares with the Canadian nickel plated steel clad coins. There have been a number of different compositions of these clad coins over the years. Current clad coins are really junk. While the older composition coins can be difficult to ID due to some number bounce or whether they are lying flat or on edge. The older coins are not to difficult to find once you master their signature tones and ID number. They will mostly fall in the 60-72 number range. There will be exceptions. As for current composition coins. You will have to get your head around most detectors see them as rash targets. They will ID in the lower numbers such as 10-14 number range, if they are on edge, they drop ID numbers into the iron range 04-06 on average. That’s like nail range, so if you get a tight narrow target, or clipped audio sound that is not the usual nail double blip sound. Then you may as well check it out. Some of the older coins lying on edge will also ID in the 04-06 range. Some want to know how depth will compare between the round and oval coils. Because they are DD, the round coils will get better depth. But, the oval coil have an edge hunting in very very trashy areas, where depth is not a factor. And will be better getting into tight spaces, such as corn stubble for farm field hunters. Air testing has shown the 8.5” coil gets close to the stock 11” coil air depth. Saw others were asking about the coils weight. Some may find them a bit heavy, they are not super lightweight like those found on other detectors. As I recall they have to be heavier, the main reason is that the Simplex is both a land and water hunting detector. The coil has to be heavier so it will not try to raise to the surface. Like a beach ball when pushed under water, which takes a lot of human pressure to keep it down. If hunting in salt water, if the coils are not neutrally buoyant they will float unlike hunting in freshwater. So the Simplex being a dual purpose detector is probably not much different than other similar detectors. If the Simplex was strictly a land detector, super light weight coils could be made. And the Simplex would feel much lighter in weight more like the Quest detectors. Today, went out to field test the 8.5” round DD coil. To a schoolyard hunted in the past, wasn’t too concerned if I didn’t find much or anything old. It was just to see how the coil handled the soil and performed among all the trash………………locating Canadian coins. The Simplex was turned on and ground balanced. Notched out only the first bar, which I really didn’t have to do. First thing that was noticed, at 7 bars, max. sensitivity it ran stable and quiet. Didn’t matter which mode I was in. At 6 bars the Simplex was almost dead quiet. At 5 bars, basically a silent hunting detector. Except for All Metal’s mode threshold which is always there. Encountered no EMI, except from my pinpointer. Too lazy to switch frequencies, so the search coil was just moved out of the way. The only time you hear some slight chatter is when you lay the detector down to dig a target. Most coin targets today were in the 5-7” range. They were not a problem for the Simplex to pick-up. As always there were some deeper targets, that were too deep to dig for. Performance was typical for a DD coil in the 8.5” range. Makes for a really good all purpose search coil that many favor. A breath of fresh air, it feels like when using the Simplex. Very pleased with this coil. As for my finds, about $11.00 in Canadian clad, $1 and $2 coins, quarters, one nickel and a bunch of pennies, no dimes. And the usual trash. Will point out, all modes were used, the mode I liked best for hunting Canadian clad was Park 2. Bench testing originally thought I would have preferred Park 1, the tones sounded a bit cleaner and crispier. Next outing, will be checking out the 9.5 x 5” coil. Stay tuned. Jump to Part 2

Yes Sven, that's where it's headed, unfortunately! It's hard for us as individuals to counteract this! But i know that there are groups, and clubs that carry a bigger voice that may be helpful, at some point! But i also know that many of us older, (and wiser??!!) who detect, may no longer have the desire, time, or ability, to fight the good fight! And think if the pot is "stirred" that the restriction's will get much worse! I can only say that, in my opinion, that worse is already here in my area!! Except between the high and low tide area's of many beaches! Which is, no doubt, in the crosshairs, by some! I would love to see the detector companies take a more assertive role in promoting all the good things we do with their products!! Each company could create, and provide a quality video; for very little cost; for an individual to take to their municipality officials, and show what we do, and how we do it! And that there are a "few" bad actors going against what we believe is a very "low impact" hobby! And what little "disturbances" we may make, are small in comparson to the trash, and dangerous objects we dispose of! And that we are another set of "eyes and ears" for a safer Community!! We aren't asking for anything in return from anybody; but the right to enjoy a hobby, like anyone else! 👍👍

Thanks Mitchel, Even though I've been hitting the beaches pretty regularly the last 10 years I'm still learning things about the beach most every time out. The impacts of tides, swell and wind on sand movement is something that even experts seem to not fully understand. I certainly don't either but from trial and error I am starting to get more consistent results as I become more familiar with the places I hunt whether high on the slope or the negative tide area.

Love the 21k also! Nice design and high K!! Like you I''ve questioned my choice of machine..but most of the time by days end I'm Happy with the choice I made.

Those are some great hunts and better results. I'll give it a try again tonight. This brings up a point that I sometimes make. We all talk about hunting the 'low tide' when in fact we are hitting the cuts that happened at HIGH TIDE. If the waves were right some of the heavies didn't make it up to the cut and we find them in mid-beach. It is actually rare for me on my beaches to find the good stuff in the negative tide area. It is up on the very high plus side (with good waves at that time) where I find more. Mitchel

Dog, Thank you for the positive words. I've tried the asking thing too and get the no treatment. I realize that is always a possibility. With the heat right now it isn't helping my mood, haha. I will not outright give up at this point but may take a break for a bit. My work is going to get unbearable for the next few months and had hoped I would have this outlet before and maybe during that time. It is a let-down. Joe, The place he is destroying is an old closed school. I know where the guy lives, who he works for (hoodlums), etc. He even spoke to us one day and talked about how he had snuck in places and been ran out. I told him to his face that "some idiot is digging craters and leaving a damn mess and that puts a black eye on all people who metal detect." What did he do? Lie and try to blame it on someone else. But when I seen his shovel I knew it was his holes. After he left I checked where he was and sure enough, the proof was there even though he had made a weak attempt at covering it up. 3 years of past experience working in a prison helps me sort truth from crapola and call a piece of dung fairly accurately. The guy is just a rotten apple all the way around. Dang shame the idiot uses an Equinox too. Yes the "no digging" thing is in effect in all the surrounding counties near here as well. One has nerve enough to be blunt and say no metal detecting also. It's downright hostile against metal detecting these days.

Today I received a new in the box Pro Find 35. I have not opened it and may not pending what I decide to do. Thank you Minelab, I appreciate you taking care of this customer.

Excellent find! 👏

Nice! Perseverance pays off!

They should replace the coil. I will hear from them after the weekend.

I agree! Very Nice!! Sometimes all it takes is One!!

That's a beauty Seeker- congrats! I like those chunky women's rings.

I might have to take a break but I wouldn't be down that far. I've done some night hunts down there but you kinda have to make friends with the beach groomers and stay away from the dry sand.

As we further hijack this thread , one more wish for Vanquish, wish the individual mode settings (e.g., discrimination pattern) simply remained in permanent memory like the way mode settings are saved on Equinox. The single custom slot is insufficient for dealing with the discrimination pattern you have to use on each mode to cancel out ground noise due to the fixed GB setting.

It is apparent ML did not design this thing for the abuse it would be subjected to for the hard core water hunter. Especially for salt water. It does great in the rain, wet salt sand, for some light wading in standing water or light surf, hopefully won't die if you drop it in the drink. But day in and day out water hunting the coil ears can't take the load and water intrusion is always going to be a concern. Always have a backup.

Mine was not when I had it replaced. Too rough by me to go in the water. So the control head will only be splashed. I am going to guess by looking at the picture, much of that damage looks like torque on the unit. It is the reason I do not use my unit as a grip, but installed a padded hand grip right in front of the control head. Going to say torque on the case probably causes some of the water infiltration as well. I fully expect to see more issues like this from beach hunters.

A few weeks ago, inspired by some threads in the jewelry forum, I started shifting my focus from cherry picking coins, to digging possible jewelry signals using the Equinox 800. I actually started finding some, as shown in the first picture below. I was becoming a little frustrated, as (with the exception of one tiny silver ring), all I was finding was “crap” jewelry. That changed this morning. It’s been getting wicked hot here in Montana, so I’ve been out in the parks early. I was in one of the main city parks this morning (A park I’ve pulled a ton of coins out of, including a couple of Mercs and a war nickel), searching a different section away from the stage area where they have concerts, etc., when I got a solid 18/19 signal, consistent in all directions. I’ve dug many, many signals in this range, and most turn out to be some sort of can tab, but those signals have always been kind of "janky" and change or disappear with the direction of the swing. This one did not. I pinpointed. I dug. The target was right at the bottom of the plug. A glint of gold! I popped it out with my finger to reveal my first gold find! 4.74 grams of 10k plain gold band, with a current melt value of almost $125.00! Yes, I did a gold dance! This one find helped codify what signals I could/should/might be looking for. I know it’s not the end all be all, but the signal was SO strong and clear compared to all the aluminum tabs I’ve dug, the contrast was revelatory. I feel I’ve made a huge leap in understanding. The ring has an inscription and a date from 20 years ago, so I think I will put a craigslist ad in lost and found. Still a noob. ~Bash

Nice target volume. I will be in Orange County tonight. You ?

The is an informed guess, Dan, because of course, Minelab is not talking. In the simplest explanation (the way I look at it), the iron bias filter takes advantage of the fact that the ferrous and non-ferrous signal components of a ferrous target respond differently to varying frequencies. That is why ferrous targets false differently depending on what operating frequency you are using (and why certain operating frequencies enhance high and low conductor target signals differently). So the iron bias filter relies on the fact that you are hitting the ferrous target with multiple frequencies and it is interpreting the results of the target response to make an informed guess as to whether a detected non-ferrous signal component is simply part of a ferrous target (i.e., falsing) because of its response and the response of the accompanying ferrous signal at different the frequencies. The iron bias filter strength will tend make the non-ferrous (falsing) component sound more like a ferrous signal at higher settings. Of course it can be fooled by a non-ferrous target in close proximity to a ferrous target, resulting in complete masking of the non-ferrous target if set too high (no free lunch). But bottom line, it needs a multifrequency transmit signal to be able to do its thing, so it is not operational in single frequency. Multifrequency also enhances compensation for a less than ideal ground balance, cancelling out salt or alkali soil ground components, better normalizes target response independent of target size and composition, and enhances target ID at depth (notice the TID up averaging that occurs in 4 khz single). HTH

My brother and I both have 800s and spent 4 hours or so detecting yesterday. We both are using Version 3 firmware. We both experienced the low audio issue with the Nox pinpointer several times during the outing. The “fix” is to turn the pinpoint function off then back on again, same as with all of the 3 firmware versions prior to Version 3. This gets the pinpoint audio back to normal as most of us already know. You would think by this time ML would have come up with a fix for this lingering problem. I'd trade 4 kHz for a pinpoint function fix.

I was approached by a young man (wearing a mask) today on the beach that I was metal detecting on. He ask me if my metal detector could find a medallion that he had lost when his chain had broken. He then said it was gold. I told him that gold was what I was looking for on the beach and said, Let's go find it. He and his buddies had been tossing a football around and that was when his gold chain had broken and the medallion had dropped into the dry sand and disappeared. I said, "I hope this is your lucky day". Two minutes later I ask his if it was "Jesus on the cross". He said "yes" and I handed it back to him. It took all of about 5 minutes of my time and made his day. I love this hobby!

Thanks Raphis for your prompt reply. My soninlaw is waiting for the 800 and he has never detected before so i will be setting it up for him what i think i will do is let him use the factory preset for a while till he gets a bit familiar with it before i start using other settings. Thanks again.

Just recently I consulted with a company for the same kind of project, but they were looking for really high-dollar items, not just flatware. We got it up to the prototype stage before Covid hit and they suspended the project. An amazingly challenging design, we were looking for titanium which is the most difficult metal I've encountered. Even flatware can be tough, depending on the alloy it can be durn near invisible to a detector.

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Thank you mate! My pleasure! Good luck on your next hunts too! Cheers

I would not say every swing....I would say between 4 and 5 buoy's every few swings..and I dug a few to see what they were..crab pots pieces..so I know I would be best going into mute mode in that area.......I even dug a nail...rare here.. Add on ..second site.. Modern beach to the right, old beach to the left..there are areas of high iron where there are pieces every swing on the old beach...and I got my two gold rings from these areas, using the excal..and they were Nulls..to deep for the excal to ID..so it nulls... To the right is AQ area...to the left I will venture once I feel more confident with using the AQ in those area's...I know now to go slow and overlap my swing..see if that works..in the mute mod.. still learning..

The Impulse beach detector is a niche product (PI) in a niche market (beach hunters). And guess who really dominates that market. Minelab multifrequency models, not any PI detectors. The Impulse AQ is not revolutionary anyway, just another PI. A very nice one, but nothing earth shaking. The Impulse Gold model? The best they can hope for is to match already existing Minelab models. Minelab has seen what FT is planning there for a couple years, and anyone that thinks Minelab will let some PI gold market share go without responding is just dreaming. Whatever FT does there with their gold PI is too little, too late. There is a ton of money in pinpointers. Most sell for more than some metal detectors! But you have to move numbers, and I doubt the F-Pulse or Tek version have made a serious dent in the market. That is one area where I'd say Minelab has scored a fail so far. I never even bothered to try their pinpointer, that's how compelling it is.

Planned AQ LTD (AQ Mk 1 is my preferred name) is intended to be about 100 - more or (perhaps) a good bit less. That will take all summer and perhaps a good bit more - COVID19 - learn as you go - possible ugly surprises from the field - all of the above. My list is a bit over 60 and at a few more, I will have to start a new list - because I don’t want to stir up false hopes. If I wanted to do that - I’d start a circus - accept pre-payments, deposits - you name it. I am not nearly well organized enough or greedy enough to do anything of the kind. I shall do the best I can with the instructions I have been given about getting a wide and serious spread for the early units and then I will likely review my oldest list then move to the newer ones.

The TDI-SL was purely a development for Africa. The intent was a simple AA battery system and sub-$1000 price tag. Some were built and sent to Africa but it didn't catch on, so the SL was released for domestic sales. I argued hard for a sub-$1000 price tag but lost. If you look at the PCB on the SL you will see some unstuffed parts that were for future development, including auto ground track. But then I got onto truncated half-sine and the performance was so much better that I completely abandoned the TDI platform. The reason half-sine never saw the light of day is because, for 3 years, I was diverted to developing a security walk-thru which, after I finished the project and even built a production line, was canceled. There is more to the walk-thru story I may tell one day; it is probably the key reason White's failed.

Darn, I had the whole desert mostly to myself….oh well welcome back out you guys...