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Thank you for reading and responding. Please feel free to jump right in and offer whatever your experiences have been. I got to hunt for a short period of time today with my Deus 2 for coins and jewelry. It did not disappoint. I have hunted this area extensively with my Deus 1 recently and a little with an Equinox 600 a couple of years ago. It is a school/city park site that had new sprinklers and sidewalks put in about 4 years ago. I have found some older nickels including Buffaloes and Wheat pennies so I knew silver was a possibility. I sure didn't expect silver Washington quarters however. These two quarters and several of the other quarters were on edge in the 4 to 6" depth range. So were the other coins. I was really glad to get the silver ring also. The nickels also really get me excited since they are so easy to hear on Deus 2 by setting up a small tone bin for them. The little pile of trash in the top right of the photo are the square tabs and beaver tails that also can be found in the 60 to 64 target ID area. So can rusted/bent Corona steel crown bottle caps which are found a lot in my area. The "gold" ring is gold plated/Avon bling........too bad! The XP Deus 2, even with basic General program settings, is proving to be quite the coin and jewelry detector.

I don't think the problem is IF a 6000 can run a concentric coil, it's more so if it will be ALLOWED to run a concentric coil. With X-coils not really interested in continuing making GPX coils with the freedoms that they have by not being approved then it's up to Nugget Finder and Coiltek with whatever restrictions if any are upon them to make the coils for it, will they be allowed to pursue coils outside of a set configuration? That's the big question. I'm not surprised by X-coils not following through with GPX coils, they chase bigger deeper gold where they hunt and the GPZ is the more suitable detector for them to use personally, and the whole reason they even made GPZ coils was to give themselves better options, with them not wanting to use the GPX themselves the motivation wouldn't be there the same as it was with the GPZ. I hope they'll make a few friends and long time X-coil users some Concentric coils for the GPX some day, at the moment they're flat out just trying to keep up with orders, it seems the GPX being released has sparked a lot of interest from GPZ owners to just buy a more sensitive coil for their GPZ rather than an entirely new detector.

I dug this near an elementary school bike rack. It’s copper, with slight traces of silver-colored plating. The name “LEAH” is bracketed with shooting stars. It’s hard to tell from the photo, but the outside is a clear, convex acrylic band. At first, I assumed it was a child’s ring. But the interior diameter is only 11/16” and the acrylic band is somewhat rubbery. If it’s a personalized ring, good thing the wearer’s name is only 4 letters. JACQUELINE would have been a tight fit! It seems both too cheap and too over-engineered to be jewelry. So I’m wondering if it might be a part of something. I tried searching internet for companies named LEAH with a shooting star logo but no luck.

I have been hunting with Deus 2 exclusively for about 2 weeks and I must say, I really like it. Of course, I really like Deus 1 except for how it detects (poorly) in high mineralization on deeper than 3" coin sized targets. Deus 2 fixed that for sure. So, I gathered up a .05 gram flattish nugget and used half of an XP audio module/backphones container which is 1.25" high for a minimum height air test. Did the same with a .15 gram nugget with the other half (1.75") of the XP audio puck container and used a whole XP audio puck container (2.5") with a .25 gram nugget. I also did a surface and 1" deep buried test with the flat .15 gram nugget in a container of highly iron mineralized dirt from a hydraulic mine site in the Colorado mountains. I removed all of the bigger pieces of magnetite which filled a sandwich bag and the dirt still maxes out the mineralization bars on Deus 1 and Deus 2. Even my GPX 6000 hates this dirt. There is some wind noise and some drag racing noise from Bandimere Speedway. There is also a good deal of video of my butt....sorry. My IPhone also overheated twice so this video has a couple of splices. The Deus 2 audio sounds a bit weak during the air testing of the .05, .15 and .25 gram flat nuggets. It actually isn't weak. It is PWM VCO audio and the targets are at the edge of detection. The volume is maxed out on Deus 2. I also totally forgot to do a noise cancel on the Legend. It is a bit noisy and it is my fault. The video is kind of long.....19 minutes with no talking. Hope you can see the detector displays most of the time. Making videos is definitely not my thing but some people won't believe it until they see it. One's word used to be enough.....

It's a souvenir shop ring, off one of those carousels that have a couple hundred common names. Next to the keychain carousel and fridge magnet carousel.

I think there is a huge difference between asking people to cut the end off a cable, versus literally cutting into a coil to remove a chip, and then patch the coil, plus mend the hole. It goes from being hard, to almost being ridiculous. Lots of speculation about constraints on Nugget Finder and Coiltek here, when people have absolutely no idea if there are any, or what they might be. For all we know they have access to the chips, and can build any coil they want using those chips. Maybe optimism is an option, rather than assume the worst.

I'm hoping they get a lighter GPZ out sooner than later. As much as I'm loving these concentrics on the GPZ, my elbow makes me pay for swinging that machine for a week afterwards now, even with lighter coils. It's hard to stop though, knowing it almost always pulls something extra up. I had an S20 phone die in Arizona over the winter (well, screen went bad, I can't login now), had some photos of running the 17" CC in a small, deep gold area that was worked by 2 GPZ operators and me with the 17" spiral, no signals left at all when I took the 17" CC in. This post was about what the 6000 missed, but I can also show what the stock GPZ and even the 17" spiral miss compared to the 17" CC too. Going to work on recovering data and vids off this old phone today, hopefully can get them all back.

Another recent experience (that others have talked about) is the 'disappearing target'. Apparent, shallow'ish (all less than 2" deep) signal that vanishes once dug... I've had to give up on 3 of these now. I'm strongly anticipating that these are tiny iron/steel wire fragments that need to be oriented correctly for the signal to appear. Once dug, the orientation changes and the signal evaporates.... I hope

Back in the mid 70's that was a common type of ring, and they were cheap for the kids to buy. They were silver plated and had a max of 6 or 7 letters on them with many different names on them. They cost under $5.00 which was a average price for them.

Thank you Aureous and Steve for correcting me in regards to Concentric coil use on VLFs, and Phrunt re. concentrics on the PIs. Seems there was a case for concentric coils well before X coil showed their obvious depth gain on the GPZ. Go for it Aureous, seems NF and Coiltek will be busy for some time building the coils they have advertised for the 6K, 6K concentric coil interest will be on their backburner even if they get MLs approval to do so.

Hey Outback Tank, make sure you bring plenty of steel toed flip flops to detect in. You don't need another hole in your foot from your pick. Do they make apple pie milkshakes there? If not you need to start a new trend. 🍎🥧🥛 In all seriousness, I'm very happy for you to go experience this again. Klunker and I will make sure to save you a few bits of gold here in the Lost Sierra. Check in often for the "Old News"🤣

Many companies made or make concentric coils for VLF gold machines. Prior to Minelab popularizing DD coils, you could hardly get anything but a concentric on all VLF detectors. Whites had 10”, 14”, and 6” concentrics for the Goldmaster series, and the 24K sported a 6” concentric. I have one myself. All the Gold Bug 2 coils are concentric. Nokta made/makes concentrics for their nugget machines. Garrett for the AT Gold, etc. Not rare at all on VLFs, quite common really. It’s the PI world where they have been a rare thing, with mono taking the place normally seen by concentric since the VLF world. Since there is a DD coil for the 6000, a concentric absolutely can be made for it. It’s just different ways of configuring separate transmit and receive coils. https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/597-vlf-concentric-vs-dd-coils/

I think the poor build quality of the Equinox is over exaggerated. Yes, it has it's flaws like the occasional one drowning and coil ears breaking off but if you consider the VERY large number of them out in use of course they're going to show more faults than the Legend which has far less hitting the soil, although if you look on the Nokta Facebook groups there are a bucket load of faulty Legends, not due to poor structural integrity so much as due to bad electronics and faulty coils. So while there is an impression the Nokta is better quality I honestly don't think it is. Both have a 3 year warranty so if you run into problems you get it replaced anyway and by the end of the warranty I'd be hoping a new model is out so me personally I wouldn't care if it had troubles at that point. If your control pod dies out of warranty on the Nox Minelab will sell you a replacement pod at a very reasonable price too, not sure how Nokta will deal with this situation.

I went back to this spot again yesterday with JW, this time we were both better equipped, he finally got his replacement GPX 11" Coil, it just appeared in the mail with no notice it was even coming! He's now put that funky tape all over the top like others have seeing it was a new coil he wanted to protect it from scratching to bits. I haven't done that with mine, if I wear a hole in the top of it Minelab can replace it for me under warranty. We arrived and I zoomed straight over to where I found the two nuggets in the bedrock last week but this time I was using the GPZ and 8" X-coil. I had slammed that little area last week with the 6000, spent almost half a day on a small area of bedrock making sure I'd done every inch of it so this was to see if the extra depth on small nuggets I know the 8" coil gives would find me another one. It turns out it wasn't the extra depth that found me another one, it was the smaller size. It is hard to see in this photo but above the scoop is a crevice in the bedrock, below the scoop are 3 big rocks (it's on a downhill slope so my aboves and belows may sound confusing by the photos) those rocks were positioned either side of the crevice making a bit of a bridge across it, I was able to poke the 8" coil up under them and got the signal, quite clearly too, it was very obvious and I'm sure the GPX would have hit it too, if the 11" coil could have fit up under the rocks, but of course it couldn't. So in this instance the find was more about coil size than detector performance. This was the little nuggie So, I checked the rest of the area and the 6000 had missed nothing else, even though I'm confident the 8" is deeper on small gold for this to be realised the gold has to be in that 20% or so range outside of the GPX depth and within the 8" depth so for me to find a nugget in that exact scenario and know the nugget was found because of that scenario is probably not overly likely very often. I'm never the best at covering every inch of ground 100% effectively too so I'm unlikely to say the GPX missed this but the GPZ got it, I just know which I have more confidence in. I walked over to JW who was detecting about 20 meters away with his 6000 at the perfect time, he had a target that was likely not to be a pellet, too deep for a start for a lead pellet and not a booming signal by any means so I hung around for the recovery as I was sure he had gold. It took quite a while to get it out, the GPX is difficult to pinpoint so he was messing around a bit, I offered to go get the GPZ to recover it but he persisted, practice makes perfect I guess 🙂 He eventually got it out and into the scoop and narrowed it down to the last bit of soil in there and said damn, a pellet as there was this round little rock in the scoop. I said nope! look there, I saw a little glisten of gold. Indeed it was, a pretty small bit for it's depth too. With that mission complete I switched back to the GPX and went off exploring new to me areas, not new areas as there were dig holes evidence everywhere from JW and some other person that's been going to the area. I spent an hour or two scouting around digging and avoiding pellets and struggling with EMI and then I detected over the top of flat piece of schist and had a signal, I scraped the surface off it to clean off the plant life and soil and the signal was still there, very faint but consistent, Some of these schist rocks have a green or iron type stuff inside them so I wasn't sure if that was setting it off, the GPZ gets troubled by the green ones so I was going to blame that but I thought I'd try lift the rock out just in case, I used my pick to leaver it up and it snapped in half but I was able to move the half away and the signal was indeed under the rock. I recovered it and took a little video. I was pretty happy with that, yes I think the GPZ would have got it too, but I'll never know. JW came over shortly after while I was recovering a pellet and said it was lunch time so we went and had lunch, he was up to 3 nuggets now from memory to my 2. I decided I'd had enough of the 6000 for a while, I just enjoy using the GPZ more, I love how stable it seems compared to the GPX, I'm now running the sensitivity on the GPZ at 20 all the time, I used to run it on 18 as I felt going to 20 made it less stable and I prefer stable but now after running the GPX then 20 on the GPZ feels incredibly stable by comparison. My other mission was to go work right under the power lines, this is a big advantage of the GPZ, it just does the job and the 8" is awesome under power lines. I don't need to drop my sensitivity or put on a DD coil to work there, I can run my normal settings which are maxed out normal/high yield/20 gain and continue on as if they're not there. I walked up there and found JW's scoop on the ground, he'd lost it when he walked past to another spot so I put it in my pocket for when I next saw him, I had no idea where he now was I couldn't see him. I normally listen out for the pick noise hitting the bedrock but couldn't hear it so he was quite far away. I continued on detecting under the lines and was recovering lots of little tiny shards of metal and I was wondering if they were something to do with the power lines when they installed them, a digger bucket or something. I also ended up getting a nice target sound, a boomer really but it's depth continued down to the bedrock. A nice size nugget, at first when I dug it I thought it was junk, one side of it is covered in iron stone or something, very weird for around here to have a polluted nugget. That's so weird for a NZ nugget from what I've seen! The other side looks almost normal. This was when I look up from where I found it. The dig hole to the right of the coil. And a little video I took after the recovery I was using the ML-100's on the GPZ using a MPow aptX LL transmitter and oddly the hiss I'm always complaining about with these headphones on the 6000 doesn't exist with this setup, I'm now wondering if the hiss is caused by interference to the Bluetooth transmission from the GPX, it's obviously not a fault with the headphones, so weird. My biggest of the day! Shortly after finding this and covering that small bit of open ground under the power lines I swapped back to the GPX, I took it up to this spot but didn't have my DD with me and tried the 11" but it was far too unstable, even on lowest manual sensitivity I just couldn't justify using it there but I persisted and checked the spot anyway and found nothing I'd missed, the only pellets it found were ones in my scrape and rejects and no other targets I'd missed. And my junk for the day The tiny little junk targets at the top were with the GPZ and they were the little bits I suspect are from the digger bucket when they cleared the area to put in the power lines. I'm going to give the GPX a rest now I think, I'll start using it again once I get an aftermarket coil for it and see if I like it better then. I was going to get a NF and the Coiltek and now I think I'll just get one and see if I find it any better for my needs then before buying the second one, no need to throw more money at it unless I start to enjoy using it as that's what it's all about, if you don't enjoy doing it there is no point doing it and I really enjoy the GPZ. JW ended up with 5 nuggets for the day to my 3 but because of my bigger one I might have the most weight.

You are not missing much, if anything. From my D1 experience, the marginal increase in coverage and miniscule depth advantage vs. the cost and added weight/imbalance make this coil a waste of time and money for the D2 IMO. Wish they dropped this form factor entirely (or at least delayed it) and focused instead on providing an equivalent/compatible coil to their excellent 10x5 HF D1 coil. That is the true gap in the D2 coil lineup at the moment.

I agree strick. The ability of the Equinox to ground balance in that dirt is remarkable. I could have done a lot of settings adjustments (and did off camera) but I decided to at least stay with default sensitivity settings if possible. I kept Deus 1's frequency close to the other detectors 31.3 kHz and Deus 1 and Deus 2 Goldfield sensitivity at default 95.............lowering it and raising the reactivity a bit helped some but depth loss was even bigger. So I just made sure to set up the two Goldfield programs as close to the same as possible by using PWM VCO on both, adjusting audio response the same and maxing the volume. For me, the Legend did just fine. I have had my GPX 6000 at the location where that dirt came from and I usually spend hours chasing ghost/hot ground signals. I get frustrated, pull out my Equinox 800 and enjoy the hunt.......go figure. The work required to make a little video like this with just an iPhone and Youtube's video editor is ridiculous. Anyone who does this regularly should be commended. Making it also helped me make some decisions. I am just going to have to put up with Deus 2's Goldfield performance and not take it to places with dirt that bad. I have found gold with Deus 1 at that location so I just figured Deus 2 would automatically at least be the equivalent of Deus 1.

I just made my flight arrangements to Australia and I am off the wall happy---- !!! Leaving the end of next month and couldn't be happier to get back and hear the Taskmaster screaming at me......lololol Luckily i didn't lose my airline points from 2017-18-and 19 and that gave me free passage from here to Sydney and back-- the rest i pay for in Aussie dollars !! Yes! Total airfare as best as I can figure is about 1200 AUD from Sydney to Perth to Meeka and back I may even try to get up north this year to where Mad Tuna is on station ...if i get a proper set of body armor first😆 From what I've seen i left some gold there in Meeka and that's ok-- i walked over it at least a hundred times-- i always swing high and fast,,😉 Seriously, Y'all don't know how happy I am to finally get the chance to go back---- I often think of Fred, and how he would have loved to go back,,,, so with Gods help I am going to do it again and this ones for you Fred!!!! Much love to you all and good luck this year finding your dream! No longer VA Nurse Paul------ Outback Yank now...

Wow, that ground is insane. That's the first time I've understood how bad soil can be. The Nox was the clear winner to me but certainly a dig it all detector with very little depth in that ground. If you shut your eyes and listen the Legend sounds exactly like an Equinox that is being troubled by EMI. I think the GPX 5000 would be the best for that soil. My takeaway from that is you have a lot more patience than me Jeff, I'd not enjoy gold hunting in your ground at all! Even with the GPX 6000 and people promoting it showing a little nugget they've just dug and showing the depth they got it at all proud how deep it was and they're saying they're amazed with the extreme depth it's getting them I have a chuckle as I'd get double their depth at least with my 6000 easily and not be all that excited by the result, sometimes the depth they're amazed by with their 6000 I could get the nugget with a few of my VLF's. It just really demonstrates the differences in soil around the world and how much our results vary and why we are always bickering about this sort of thing as our experiences differ so much it's crazy. Your video was a really good demonstration of this and it's lucky I don't live where you do or I'd dislike all of those VLF's for prospecting.

My Deus 1 actually does fairly well on that dirt too when it is running at 54 kHz or higher. I have found some nice specimen gold mixed with quartz with it at that site. Some of the dirt has been hydraulicked and rearranged and some is natural. Since this site is on an 11,000 foot mountain side some of the dirt horizon is tilted upward and I can literally swing my coil and pass over several cross-sections of dirt with different ground phases. Mostly with the GPX 6000 I just end up in Auto 1 (11). Also there is the pea sized to ping pong ball sized magnetite that is all over the ground and virtually every metamorphic rock is a hot/cold rock. All of that stuff is easy to recognize with the Equinox 6" coil using a wide open Gold 1 or Gold 2 and then having a modified 2 tone Field 2 in the User Profile. With the GPX 6000, those subtle differences in the soil horizons sound like good targets. So do many of the smaller pieces of magnetite and hot rocks that are under the surface....... Maybe a smaller coil will help.

Hey Bill, I'm in some terrain that in many ways resembles that around Rye Patch. I would say as a whole it's less salty though, or more patchworked alkali anyways, with areas of more extreme salt and less extreme salt. Also, the ground is more mineralized with regards to the ferrite component here too. But similar conditions. I think the 6000 is a great detector for NNV, and also for Colorado. If I only wanted one detector to primarily work those two places, I'd personally choose the 6000 so I think you made a good trade. In fact, when I detect down in your part of Colorado later this year, I'll probably just take the 6000 with me. The steeps...too gnarly with the GPZ unless I have some very specific, small areas to concentrate on. But yeah, these concentrics are definitely deep in the places you can run them. Heavy salt is not particularly their forte though. But they are doing good with the ferrite mineralization (no worse than the stock coil anyways, maybe slightly better), and these things just absolutely slay the deeper ground and have literally produced deeper gold every single patch I've tried them on. For places like Arizona they are amazing. For people that have a stable full of good, deep, productive old patches, these things are literally like having a GPZ 8000 to me, a tool that is clearly more capable than anything else on the market right now. I'm actually pretty surprised there aren't more AZ detectorists using one, but that's just fine with me. I hope I'm the only one in the US using them because they are a major advantage to have. I'll admit to being a bit speculative here myself and other threads. I got a bit concerned we might just see some size variation and no focus on improved performance when I saw Coiltek say something along the line that he didn't know what flat windings were. Maybe a semantic mixup, and not technical? Unsure. Lack of clarity leads to speculation though, naturally. That, plus no post about upcoming concentrics from either manufacturer. It naturally leads to a bit of speculation wether we will see some things or not that we are all discovering this last year can add some significant boost in performance to the Z, and wonder if maybe the same can apply to the 6? Add into the mix that neither Minelab nor coil manufacturers have stated if there are specific restrictions on what can and can't be made for the 6000, and people are gonna start wondering on their own if such restrictions might exist, based on history. Since we clearly saw restrictions on the 7000 limiting aftermarket coil manufacturing, even if it's unclear to this day exactly what the restrictions were, it's easy to assume restrictions are potentially in play with the 6000 too, especially since the chip still exists.

That looks like a bad print, probably trying to crank out too many too fast to keep up with orders. The one I ordered didn't look like that at all. It was a perfect print and works as advertised. I just had to lightly sand the wider edges of the mounting plate to make the remote easier to remove because it was a very tight fit at first. My remote hasn't come off in the field since I put the locking mount on so I'm happy with it.

Right now I keep bottle cap reject on zero. That may be dumb but it has worked for me so far. I go by the tones and their characteristics and sometimes check the horseshoe graph. The dirt here is so mineralized that even good coin targets start to get iffy at about 6” depth with sporadic iron responses. When I use bottle cap reject the deeper borderline good targets get even more iffy.

Is the Deus 2 that much better than the Equinox for $600 more? The Deus 2 is a great machine and for beach hunting I really like it a lot. From what I'm experiencing it's inches deeper than the Equinox and very stable. If I only beach hunted I would probably sell my Equinox. Gold hunting it seems weak especially on small and porous gold. Being stuck with an 11" coil right now doesn't help. I much prefer the Equinox for golf hunting for multiple reasons. Relic hunting I still prefer the Equinox. But the Deus 2 is just as or even more capable of the job. My preference for the Equinox is mainly the audio. Most of the sites I hunt have been worked for decades so Most everything left is 6 plus inches deep. The Equinox audio IMO is very strong and easy to hear on the deeper targets. They really stand out. Yes the Deus 2 can hear the same targets but audio IMO is just weaker even when the machine is tweeked. The other thing I've noticed is with the Deus 2 is that targets at a certain depth just drops out and the audio goes to iron grunt. The Equinox starts up averaging those deep targets. But with as many hours as I have on it I'm pretty good at telling good targets from iron. Both great detectors. If you have both your basis are definitely covered for everything from diving to park hunting.

Video? Yeah, will do that soonish... My modded 4500 was a pure threshold kitten...purring without barely a bump most days. The 6000 aint that though....very warbly and not even whatsoever. BUT, mine is quiet compared to 3 other 6000's Ive heard personally in the past 12 months.

Yes, it's so far so very good.. even though I do treat the Deus II a bit gentler than the Equinox (mainly because the control box keeps falling off).. But as far as leakage is concerned, the Deus II is a winner! Having said that, both my Equinoxes (600 and 800) are also handling the grind (on the beach, in the bush and underwater).. My only leak so far has been my Equinox 600 with a bit of water getting into the battery compartment after I changed the battery.. Although it didn't flood, enough water got in for me not to trust it again as a scuba detector.. I'm weird like that but it's a rule I've stuck to after some past disasters with scuba instruments: If it leaks once, it'll keep leaking! I hope I haven't just jinxed the Deus II.. As with everything new, it's early days yet.. but so far it's been much deeper than I'd ever dare take the Equinox (it has also already spend much longer underwater).. My only gripe here is having to activate 'Dive Mode' manually underwater (at about 8 meters), I keep forgetting and have to go back up to set it.. In an utopian world it would activate automatically at a predetermined depth/pressure (like scuba instruments do).. But as far as the thing leaking during a dive, a major weight has been lifted from my shoulders.. It really has, the constant background noise of fretting about the detector leaking has completely gone.. Put simply: I trust it! Leaking is the last thing I worry about these days (which gives me more time to ponder what's gonna come at me next from out of the gloom)..

Being a former AT Pro and AT Gold owner, the Equinox 600 and the Legend are outstanding steps up. Even when compared to the AT Max they are a big step up. Not knocking the Garrett AT Series one bit here. They were state of the art 10 years ago. They just can't compete now with the great features included with the Legend and Equinox and I can assure you they will detect just as well as the AT Max. Selling the AT Max and buying even a $254 Nokta Makro Simplex, as recommended by Steve is not a joke by the way. He is serious as far as the excellence of the Simplex and so am I.

Has anyone heard when we will be able to buy a single coil? I want to get an 11" for the beach and it's been nearly 6 months now since initial rollout so I was hoping someone here might be able to shed some light on when we can buy coils. Thanks! Dave

That .15 gram nugget is easy to hit so, yeah, Deus 2 could not see it. If I lowered the threshold to 5 it would barely even detect it in the air test I had setup........... I think it is the coils and XP wanting Deus 2 FMF tech to ignore tiny trash targets more than anything. I could be wrong. If I setup Deus 2 Mono in PWM Pitch audio and Deus 1 Goldfield with similar settings and frequency, the 9" FMF and the 9" X-35 have almost identical results. They are way better than Deus 2 FMF Goldfield. Both single frequency versions of Deus 2 Mono and Deus 1 Goldfield will easily hit the .15 gram nugget in that dirt sample at 1". Just like Deus 1 with the HF elliptical coil in the video, getting them to ground balance is another story. Being able to remotely ground balance in that dirt is what sets the Equinox way apart from the others. The Legend did pretty well too.

I am able to browse my broken phone as a hard drive on my computer now. Still can't find my AZ concentric stuff, not sure why it isn't stored in DCIM as it should be. Anyways, I totally forgot that I gave the concentrics a very brief run in NNV though, and found a few pics, they aren't the greatest photos taken right at sundown and hard to see the dirt encrusted gold, so I never posted them originally. But here they are anyways since I'm digging through old stuff and on the subject of concentrics. It was a short trip as I was there for other purposes, but I stopped for an hour at a heavily detected patch on the way back to my hotel, this patch is so depleted that I don't even detect here anymore except to test new equipment since the ground is basically lacking any real targets anymore with existing equipment. Heavy salt, and heavily detected by every detector since the first SD. I had to work glacially slow through the salt groan, but still got one. This one was a grammer or something, don't remember exactly at this point. I'm posting this stuff going off rough memory at this point. It definitely suffered in the salt, but not really any more or less than I'd expect any larger coil would. Targets were still recognizable in the salt groan, just as with the stock coil. I also ran the 8" out here another trip, and it did great in the salt, better than the 6000 w/11" in my opinion. Tried another similar well flogged patch which I'm sure a number of forum members are familiar with, about an hour here. Got 3 nuggets. One of them had a nice cube on the tip of it (left most nugget). The middle one came from below a pocket I found in 2015 or so with the GPZ, the pocket was filled with black sooty carbon/graphite, and you can sorta see the carbon on this nugget even though this photo isn't the greatest. Someone has since discovered my old pocket and raked a large area beneath it down, and took a bunch of the dirt home with them. It's really crystalline gold when it's all cleaned up. This stuff all got tossed into CLR and sold a few days later to fund gas back home so I don't have any pics of it cleaned up unfortunately. It was all crystalline though. The tiny 3rd nugget was the smallest I'd ever found with a large coil and was something under 0.10 grams but I can't recall weight exactly now. So, about 3 grams from very well flogged patches in about 2 hours of actual detecting. Not bad for places I've given up on years ago. If a person has enough old patches with proven production and depth, it's probably possible to pay a concentric off quick. I've only used mine lightly and I think I'm close to or over 1 oz with them now from just worked, dead patches. However, I think the major value of these coils is for people who have known, proven ground to work. Here is some of the gold from the original pocket, after I got smashy with the quartz. This wasn't found with the concentric, it was found in 2015 or 2016 with the stock GPZ, just a reference to know what the gold actually looks like and it's character, since my pictures above don't really show it due to dirt covering. It's prickly, crystalline, hard to detect stuff normally.

I ordered mine yesterday as my original one seems a bit defective but then I see this LOL. I hate when people don't take the time to do things right especially when there is money involved. You can do well and prosper in any business if you just take the time to do things right the first time. Hopefully mine won't look like my dog got it first.

Why not just toss JW's new coil on your 6000 in the same spot, should be able to tell pretty quickly if there is an issue. I think the real strength of the 6000 is just running it in Auto+ with no threshold and using it for prospecting/exploring for the easier targets, covering ground. Usually they are 50%+ of targets in new spots, especially where bedrock is shallow, so can be cleaned up quick with the 6000. Don't really need to listen for every tiny faint threshold warble doing that, bring the GPZ in later for that.

I had read somewhere (likely here) that D2's demand abroad had faded and that detectors were sitting on the shelves (basically supply has met demand) so saving coils for complete units wouldn't seem as important now. I know supply chains are all screwed up but geez. At the rate inflation is going I may have to unretire before I even officially retire. Have a great Memorial day weekend everyone and remember if you can read this thank a soldier!

yep, why kill the GPX sales and investment by releasing another detector quickly when with no competition they really don't need to, they can stretch out the sales of detectors as long as they want, it's a few years away yet is my best guess. I am not bothered, I'm as happy as I could be with my current equipment. All these rumours of a GPX 8000 next year I believe are rubbish. Competition would drive faster releases, when the market is completely dominated they can milk it for all it's worth. Their next detector will be a coin and relic machine, surprisingly that's where the money is at the moment, previously it was the gold detectors bringing in the cash. Times they are changing as their investor reports clearly point out.

I'll think we should just wait and see what the future holds. 🙂

Thanks Ghostlight, that's a new one for me.. Looks like that'll work, although it says a lot that someone has to come up with a device like this to help XP solve a basic design problem.. 🤨 The video for this locking device is an all time classic..

Hey Erik, get one of these locking devices for your D2 and the remote will only come off when you want it to. I got one and it definitely works. Deus II Remote Lock

If you circle the target and get that double blip, keep on walking. Solid hit 360 degrees dig it up. That will cut out most of the tent stakes.

Can you put up a video of your threshold at some point? It's not that I don't believe you it's more that I want to know what is considered a super quiet threshold on the GPX. I can't get its threshold anywhere near as stable as my GPX 4500, 5000 or GPZ 7000, not even close even if I dumb it right down to minimum sensitivity it's still a noisy beast. The videos I've seen on Youtube seem to be similar to mine and JW's one seemed just as bad as mine to me when I borrowed it to compare to mine. It could just be that we all have a different definition of a stable threshold I guess. I see a lot of people say the SDC 2300 is a ratty noisy detector yet others say it purrs like a kitten so I think some of it is how much noise a person tolerates. Mine maybe noisy as all hell but you can still hear the small shallow dinks over it as they scream out.

There's 2 Australian based coil techs who have made CC coils for GPX detectors in the past. Not a difficult task, just $$ and time to perfect, prior to field testing. I'm toying with the idea in my head, of pulling the chip out of the 14DD and getting one built. Sourcing quality shells in the right size is the biggest issue though

Simon: Thanks for reposting that thread - I'd clean forgotten about it - The late lamented Fred! 😞 My 18" Detech CC failed before I got a chance to test it on the goldfields thoroughly. In any event, I had already moved on to the "Z" and X Coil CC's. Rick: Agree completely about the obsolescent WM12 system. I immediately fitted my favourite cordless Sennheiser RS160 system to the Z and have never looked back. I've used it on many detectors and have never had distortion, discernible lag or dropouts - allergic to cords!! You're not alone. Absolutely agree - that's why I use the "Kleer" based Hi Fi Sennheiser system.

April 9 1937 Things were quiet last night and we all got some much needed sleep. I decided to send Will and Hudson into town for some supplies in the morning while John and I did some exploring east of the kettle. We got back to camp around lunch time and Will and Hudson were there waiting for us. They told us that a few people in the general store were talking about us. They didn’t seem to know that Will and Hudson were part of the crew. Some guy was saying that we were on a big gold strike and that’s why we came back for another season. The guy he was talking to said he heard we were a bunch of rough characters that beat people up or shot them at the drop of a hat. It seemed we were thought of as some kind of mining outlaws. I just laughed it off and we all had lunch. It was a fairly nice day so I told the crew we should do some mining. We decided that Will and Hudson would be the pump operators and John and I would do the digging. By about 2:00 we had water running through the tom so John and I went at it with the shovel work. It felt so damn good to be mining again. I kept thinking I’d see Jed in the pit with us. We worked for about three hours and shut down the water and cleaned out the sluice. All four of us did a quick cleanup and weigh showing some good color that weighed up to about a ¼ ounce. I told the crew this is our first gold of the season and we are going to get a lot more. TO BE CONTINUED ......................

Gerry--- We did it right every time ive gone to OZ -- I may have messed up with luggage etc, but the Aussie friends always jumped in to help me: from the first year when JP took me under his wing {with a tremendous amount of under breath cursing..lol To Minelab loaning me a complete control head for the 7000, while i was with as Brother Norvic down in Dimbulah...... with his bonus wonderful fishing hut in "the" right place wink! Caught me first barra with him--- (he said I was a lot better fisherman than a detectorist---lol) .. then the Goldhounds- in FNQ-------(what can be said about that ) th Palmer the walkabout way up north with Johhny Majic ......... To the Taskmaster in WA where i have learned to love the WA desert--yeah even the pub in Meeka 🍻-- steak sandwiches are not to be beat-- If yall cant tell by now I am crazy mad at the realization of coming back.... I was sorting out gear on my patio and hour ago--- Cheers To new adventures!!!!

You can sell the AT Max used, buy a Simplex. Both get a better detector, and put money back in your pocket. Hard to beat a deal like that!

It does not mean they will not warranty the machine if it leaks. They are however reserving the right to decide whether to do it or not. Let’s face it, not all leaks are the fault of the detector. At the end of the day, XP will kill their reputation if they deny reasonable warranty claims. Personally I would not worry about it, though I can see why other might be concerned. Good new is Eric may not exactly love his D2, but probably has given it as rough an underwater workout as might could be expected, with no leakage issues. I’ve not heard of any D2 leakage at all, and that bodes well. We all know the score on Equinox when it comes to that - they have had a lot of leakage issues. All backed without question under warranty I should also note, but leaks all the same. This subject was covered at length previously on this thread: https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/17805-if-you-are-considering-getting-a-deus-2/?do=findComment&comment=185882

If you connect to your scope, set the delay at anything but 7uS, say 11, then turn of the machine and back on again without moving the delay, you will gain some knowledge most don’t have. Use any mode you prefer. If your working ankle deep, then you should swing your coil parallel to the water or north to south. East to west will continually try and balance the depth and salt difference resulting in noise. A good starting point in all metal I think would be volume 8>10 sensitivity 4>5 threshold 4>5 (your preference) ATS 6>8 reject plays no part in all metal. Tone mode volume 8>10 sensitivity 4>5 threshold 4>5 ( again your preference ) ATS 8>81/4 reject 3. Keep your wet fingers off the coil connector as much as possible. The metal locknut develops capacitance due to no shielding in the Souriau connector. I prefer tone mode mid summer looking for fresh drops. No coins for me. Any iron grunts deep in the wash by the rim I dig as that is where those big fat pig rings lay. Otherwise I keep moving looking for gold. Good luck to you.

Many thanks Au, thought you`d be able to elaborate more on concentric coils of those days. Ah so that`s why Detex suddenly disappeared. Whether the depth of the GPZ CC Xcoils can be replicated on the 6K or other PIs comes down to field testing. You`d think if CC were viable on the PIs we`d have used them, I just can`t remember any talk of them being trialed for that time from the VLF days right up to the successful X coil CCs on the GPZ. Perhaps they weren't trialed until the GPZ. Has X coil, NF, Coiltek or any aftermarket coil manufacturer trialed a CC on the SDs to GPXs?

I just want to add two things. I was never a big fan of the X-35 Deus 1 coils for small gold prospecting and for ground balancing in bad mineralization. I found it to be a very noisy coil. The 9" FMF coil sure looks and acts a lot like the X-35. I could have run Deus 1 using the HF elliptical at 54 kHz or higher and it would have performed much better. I was just trying to keep the testing as level as possible. Also, what I am showing here has already been proven by Andy (abenson) in his Deus 2 (11")/ Deus1/Equinox/GPX 5000 nugget testing videos which are posted on this site and on his YouTube channel "Relics and Rings"

I do know that they run at different pulse rates. All metal and tone run different pulse rates from one another and from mute and volcanic. Contrary to the manual mute and volcanic share the same pulse rate. I have no knowledge of any kHz other than the resonant frequency of the coil which remains the same in all modes. Good luck everybody.

No kidding, as I'm finding out.. 😀 After 4 months of daily use, the Deus 2 still hasn't outperformed the Equinox: neither in finding anything the Equinox has missed, or being value for money because of its latest and greatest technology.. Call me old school but I like coils with cables and without flashing lights, fiddly antennas and recharging points.. It seems like there's always some Deus part being recharged.. For me, this sort of wireless technology doesn't add any value at all.. Also the long promised large coil (13x15'') remains a catalogue show-pony.. I hate to think how much they'd want for that baby once it's released - probably enough to buy two detectors.. So yeah, more fool me.. Its only saving grace is that it's a good scuba detector, not just because of its 20 metre waterproof rating but also its target ID.. this additional info is a great advantage over 'dig it all' PI scuba detectors..

Yep my best friend (42 years of age, was in perfect health) got Lymes 6 years ago. He went from a muscular 175 pounds to 128 pounds. Treatments are not covered by insurance and he's probably $50k out of pocket now. Like everything else it probably effects everyone differently but who wants to take the chance? I never discount the experiences of others. I got bit by a black widow at school and all I got was a bad golf ball size swelling on my elbow (and some pain) whereas others might have died. To top it off I got no spiderman type of superpowers.