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First some background on discrimination; VLF discrimination is normally dealing with measuring phase shift referenced between a transmitted sine wave and a relatively strong sine wave caused by a target that unbalances a null between the transmitter and receiver coils. This works quite well for small shallow targets that are expected to cause phase shifts within reasonable design limits. The design limits might range from iron nails to large rings or large coins with aluminum, lead and gold in the middle of the range within 12 inches of depth. Also the targets are expected to be within a size range that allows the phase shift to be within limits of the expected possible targets. They do not work well for shallow large targets that exceed the capability of the phase shift measuring circuitry. Nor do they work well for weak deep targets. There are a lot of unknown variables encountered with a Pulse Induction detector to incorporate into the design of discrimination processing. There are so many false variables to deal with unknown target sizes, shapes, wires, rusted metal shapes, and mineralized soil from oxidized metals. Some pulse induction detectors have been built that have some discrimination capabilities. My GPX 5000 with a Double D coil has that capability. It worked on some targets such as nails but overall I found that running the more sensitive Mono coil and digging all targets was faster and produced more gold. I have built a couple of prototype pulse induction discrimination circuits (based on target time constant) which worked on the bench with good solid targets. But failed when junk targets out the ground were tried they failed miserably. Measuring phase shift of the transmitter power waveform similar to what you suggest works well with good targets but falls apart when various questionable or weak targets are tested. A GPZ 7000 or GPX 6000 like detector could be designed from the ground up with a lot of software processing to make some reasonable target evaluations of phase shift and/or target time constant and display a result along with a percentage of probability number. It will take a lot of work and testing with an engineering expenditure to match the task. Hopefully Minelab will find a way to do it. But they may not appreciate the complaints from us users when we are unhappy with some of the limitations.

“So just having some fairly decent shallow discrimination on a prospecting machine would be pretty useful in many cases and save a lot of time just being able to concentrate on digging the targets that are higher probability of being gold,“ My preference is to incorporate a separate VLF circuit board or integrated VLF circuity within a Pulse Induction detector with a fast switchover from one mode to the other. The switchover could be as simple as turn off/on the appropriate transmitter. The coil would require special or additional winding/s but is doable. The display and control functions would change with the mode change. For years when in trashy areas I have carried a modified VLF detector for discriminating and pinpointing. Currently I prefer the Equinox 800.

I saw that first hand the other day when I was playing around with my GPX 5000 and tested it over the last 12 small nuggets I'd found mostly with the 7000, and it saw 9 of them perfectly fine, I was in fact impressed by it and it was quite competitive with the 6000 on of the ones it did see, but it missed 3 of them for no apparent reason even touching the coil. The small target sensitivity on the 5000 using the 10" Spiral wound X-coil I thought was quite competitive although keep in mind I can max it out in sensitive extra so in a real world situation in hotter soils all bets are off there with the 6000 taking a clear lead I'd imagine, however the missed targets was just odd. The 5000 hit the smallest 0.03 of a gram nugget yet would get no signal at all even touching the coil on a .06 of a gram nugget. I think this is part of the reason people are liking the 6000 so much, it's finding these bits the earlier GPX detectors missed entirely that should have hit fine but the makeup of the gold made it undetectable with the technology. Maybe there is just lots of these weird bits still around as they were missed by earlier GPX users and for the 6000 they're no problem. They're also no problem for the 7000 but that is using an aftermarket small coil of course, I have no idea how well the standard coil would go with them, probably the smaller ones might be missed or if they were too deep for a large 14x13" GPZ coil to see they'd be missed so the 6000 again has the advantage there. So I do understand why people like the 6000 so much, I can see where it has a clear advantage compared to the previous detector that they were using.

"a real world square-like waveform that has ringing and finite sloped rise/fall edges due to real world impedance factors" Yes, the amount of ringing and slope of the ringing waveform is shaped by damping resisters (impedance loading). The slope and length of the sloped wave will be altered/strecthed by Eddy Curents emitted from metal targets that were energized by the transmit pulse. Target detection is determined by sampling for changes in the sloped wave with high speed gating/timing circuits of different timings/mode selections. Examples; High Yield timing favoring short Time Constant targets (small nuggets); General timing favoring Long Time Constant targets (large deeper nuggets).

Re the aftermarket coils, here's a good video-view of what the NF 12x7 looks like in the field, take a look at this video: NF 12x7

Mine has some wear on the non rubber washer side ear. I salt water hunt and wash very well after each hunt. I have the coil as tight as I can get it without breaking something. The lower rod also has severe wear on the non rubber washer side. It has to be happening during the hunt on sand as I do wash unit very well after each hunt so it can't be wearing from lots of sand left behind while I'm land hunting . The coil moving just 1/4" can cause wear when sand is involved. I did buy the Anderson carbon fiber shaft and it uses washers on each side. I bought it because the washer side of the Deus shaft looked great . So I'm hoping I have no more wear issues . The shaft itself feels great. A couple small mods and it's ready to go.

April 18 1937 Part Two Slim told us his father had worked in a wild west show back in the day. He did all kinds of tricks with guns and ropes. His father had begun teaching him these skills from even before he could remember. His father traveled all the time and when Slim was sixteen he and his mother and sister never saw him again. He just left on a show tour one day and never came home. He had no idea what happened to him. Slim kept practicing his father’s trade until he figured he was better than him or anyone else around. However, by this time the wild west shows were all dried up like the dust in the western wind. There was no market for his trade. Slim developed a real bad attitude and began to pull strong arm robberies when he was still a kid. He used his gun skills to intimidate people all the time. Not surprising, the law eventually caught up with him when he was nineteen years old and he spent two years in the Wyoming state prison. When he got out his mother and sister had moved on and abandoned him. He never saw either of them again. Prison hadn’t helped his attitude but it hardened him as a man. He had been in many fistfights and brawls while in lockup and had developed some good hand to hand fighting skills to go along with his gunplay. He was a truly dangerous individual and didn’t think twice about using his guns or fists at the drop of a hat. By now Slim had downed a third of his bottle. Then he told us a wild story. We all leaned in to listen closely. TO BE CONTINUED ....................

GPZ 7000 ZVT The GPZ 7000 Zero Voltage Transmission (ZVT) technology provides a stable processing period throughout the entire receive period. It also provides a stable magnetic field that reduces the amount of undesirable soil that is detected. This along with better signal processing provides improved detection of small nuggets and larger deeper nuggets. Bipolar (positive and negative) pulses can be generated in standard Pulse Induction detectors. But between pulses the transmit energy starts at zero voltage and builds until it peaks and discharges energy then it must start at zero again in the opposite polarity. This creates current and voltage variations on the power wiring that can adversely affect the receiver and processing circuits. Thus is not as stable as the GPZ 7000. In the attached oscilloscope GPZ 7000 Transmit Waveform displays; the zero volt level is across the vertical center of the display. Both the positive and negative excursions of the waveform pass up and down through the zero voltage level rapidly. In a standard Pulse Induction detector the waveform would stop at zero volts for a short period while the receiver timings and processing completed then start recharging the transmit coil for the next cycle. In the GPZ 7000 the receiver coil timings and signal processing does not require the transmit function to return to zero volts to recharge for a new transmit cycle. In the time stretched displays; the squidgy somewhat sine shaped forms at the top and bottom is time periods where the receiver timings and signal processing can be applied to the receiver coil signals to determine if a target is present. Note; only the Transmit waveform is shown in these displays. The receiver displays are a distorted mess of EMI and ground noise. That is where good engineers really excel in signal processing to extract target information that best fits the Time Constant curves that are displayed in a previous posting. In my opinion reference to the Bipolar power and high voltage pulse with coinciding receive operation as being similar to a VLF detector is not false but somewhat of a stretch. But maybe a good sales pitch. Have a good day, Chet

I've spend the morning having a looksee under the Picnic Bay jetty.. There was crap everywhere and I ended up cherry picking for dollar coins and 50 cents.. I ended up with a grand total of $23.. I was surprised to find 2 old pennies and 1 half penny.. Most of the coins were at the beginning of the jetty, a favourite spot for tourists to have sex on the beach.. I must admit that I've also made good use of this spot as a young dive instructor with one of my students many moons ago.. 😁 I've been wanting to have a better looksee since cyclone Yasi tore down the jetty.. A mate and I got the diving job to recover the posts and decking to rebuild it.. Many fond memories and new experiences today..

This is my favourite one with a 22" CC, Also a Victorian nugget, Victoria seems the place to be for big gold, what was really good about this one was it was 165 grams, it was the guys first day using the 22" CC he'd only just bought it and he caught it on camera. This is the recent big lump found with the 22" CC With gold like that around I can see why you're excited to be getting a 26" CC James so hopefully it can find some decent size lumps even deeper, I am so jealous of the gold in your hunting grounds, it makes my little 0.03 bits seem quite embarrassing 😛 Ask these guys which detector is king 🙂

Well my understanding is xp didn't want to put any pressure on the coil ears so they use one washer and use the little cone fitting to shove the lower rod over to sandwich the washer between the one coil ear and the lower rod. That way there is no pressure on the ears. Only on the rubber washer. It's a fantastic design for land hunting. But for salt water hunters and beach hunters where the coil needs to be tighter and more sealed at the joints then we'll a trailer brake is needed or a second rubber washer to help keep coil firmly mounted. I feel the lower rods needs refinement... Make it carbon fiber and make it have the trailer brake (second washer). If someone could just build a lower like that alone then it would be so helpful.

I’m sorry to hear that. Weird thing about the internet is people kind of live on via old posts. A new kind of immortality that will live on long after we are gone. Maybe something to remember when we are about to make a post that makes us look like jerks? Here are Dave’s posts on this forum, not a huge number sadly…. https://www.detectorprospector.com/profile/950-digger1955/content/ Including this one where he tells us about himself. He did not intend it as such, but a nice obituary if I ever saw one.

I'm not using the factory lower. However, one possibility is taking a little stock off the washer less side and then add a thin rubber fender washer to that end. That may solve the issue. At least you would have rubber on both sides.

Deus 1 to Deus 2 progression provided many improvements to XP's flagship detector line. For me, the charging procedure is not one of them. The Deus 1 WS4 was also a standalone detector but it was dependent on being paired with the Deus 1 remote control for software updating. Now with Deus 2, the WS6 is capable of being a totally independent, updatable standalone detector. When a person buys a separate WS6, it comes with the single lead cable included. The Deus 2 being fully waterproof required a change in charging/data port to make it waterproof. XP made several business decisions related to that. They added the screw on charging/data connector plug to the 3 way cable instead of just making a new dedicated charging/data cable for the RC. XP could have completely changed the way they charge the other components too, but they decided to keep the 3 way cable with two mini USB plugs, the mini USB receptacles on their other chargeable components along with the awkward coil charging contraptions and also kept the single lead which used to be used to update the Deus 1 RC for updating/charging the WS6. I wish they had not made those business/unwilling to change the design decisions......but they did.

Its actually quite amazing the amount of small shallow gold that should've been heard by everyone, but wasn't. Only the 6000 appears to be able to sense they're even there. Same goes for the multitude of lead shot. There's obviously a lot more small gold around that has poor conductivity than we thought. Even today I got 3 bits that were on the surface where I had gridded previously with 3 other detectors. Its a head scratcher......

Jeff is 100% correct here. They are all type-B mini connectors (except of course the multipin connector on the 3-way to provide data and charge power to the remote). The two USB type-B minis on the three-way provide charge power only and can be used for charging the WS6, the D2 coils, and the MI-6/4 pinpointers (as well as the forthcoming "dumb" wireless headphone accessories). Since the type-B mini connectors on the 3-way lack a data pin, they cannot be used to update the WS6 and that's where the single cable comes in. You can charge and/or update the WS6 with the single cable (as well as use it to charge any other accessory mentioned above except, of course, the remote which uses the multi-pin connector). But there is also absolutely nothing wrong with using one of the USB Type-B mini connectors on the three-way cable to charge the WS6 as well (that's what I usually do). Agree that the manual could be clearer on this, but frankly this is pretty basic stuff in this day and age. In fact, the type B mini connector is pretty old school and practically obsolete as the Deus detectors and accessories are about the last thing I own that still use it as most other USB powered gadgets I own either use the slightly newer Type-B micro connector which is starting to give way to the more popular and powerful USB Type-C connector. HTH

The two mini USB connectors on the 3 way cable and the cable for use with the WS6 puck are the same size and type = Mini USB. The difference is the actual exposed lengths of the connectors. The connector on the single lead is definitely a bit longer.........so I am not sure where the USB B and C reference is coming from. The connectors will both fit well in the WS6 port. Where the confusion is for me (or XP may need a different English language translator/proofreader) is what is printed in the manual and the included Erratum single sheet that came with my Deus 2. The Erratum pages shows using the single lead cable for charging and data update of the WS6 as opposed to the manual showing updating the WS6 with the single lead cable on page 30 and charging the WS6 with the 3-way cable on page 38. Deus 1s used the 3 way cable for charging the RC and the WS4. The single lead cable was for data update of the RC but I used it for charging it too. So, who knows.........I have charged my WS6 with the 3 way and the single lead and they both seem to work fine for just charging the WS6.

The Anderson shaft has a great fit at the coil. Has adjustable mount for the remote to angle it for better viewing. Use any stock XP Deus remote mount. I'm 6'4" and the shaft is only on third adjustment length wise and has 5 more adjustments. Very solid carbon fiber shaft great for water hunters. Also the remote mounts flush to the hand grip making it much easier to .ake adjustments. To be honest I don't think any of this would matter if XP came out with a better designed lower rod made for water.

+1 on that! The Nox and the 10x5 coil is a killer combo!

So for the record here is the washer side of the 11 inch coil and the lower shaft. Zero wear. You would probably never have a problem. But as you see the non-washer side has them little cavities that probably holds sand and I imagine the coil ear is wearing near the bottom more because the sand will fall out the bottom first that's a poor design for salt water hunters. if one wanted to keep using that stock shaft then maybe use some JB weld and fill in them divots so sand can't be stored in there? I'm not sure what the answer would be or like gigmaster did and I also did it temporarily is use a legend or simplex lower carbon fiber shaft I may go ahead and pick up another one and do a little quick fix to get it to work on the stock lower shaft. But for now I'm just going to use my Anderson shaft for everything. And you can even see there's still some salt a little crumb of salt left in one of them little divots and that's after it was washed just spray it down it was actually stuck in there I had to take a pic to remove it for whatever reason it was just like glued itself inside that coil divot. It would be great if XP would at least offer a different lower rod with two washers for saltwater hunters or Beach hunters cuz you probably won't have this problem if you're just diving, or just land hunting. I would imagine it's always going to be the beach hunters that may go into a foot of water or so that's going to have the problem. So if XP is looking at the forms I would hope that they would maybe design a carbon fiber lower rod with the use of two washers ..

There is a practical and necessary reason for providing the single cable. The single charging/update cable for the WS6 was provided because they wired up the 3-Way USB A cable connector dedicated data pin to the mult-pin DIN connector for the remote (you don't wire in multiple split parallel data lines because you want to avoid people attempting to hook up two devices at once during updates, but you can easly and conveniently split power and use multiple connectors for charging). As a result, they needed to provide a separate single USB cable with a B-mini connector with data so you could run data and power to be able to do firmware updates to the WS6. Because you can't/don't split data lines (and because all the connectors looked the same unlike the D2 3-way), the old 3-way B-mini cable for the Deus 1 similarly could be only be used for charging 3 devices at once but couldn't be used at all for updating. Since the DIN connector looks noticeably different on the Deus 2 3-way, they could take advantage of this visually distinctive feature to wire up both data and power to that multi-pin DIN connector for both charging and updating the remote for convenience (avoiding having to provide yet a third dedicated cable for updating the remote) without causing (too much) confusion to the end user. There is no reason you can't use the three-way to charge the WS6, you just can't use it to update the WS6. It's also convenient to have the dedicated cable so you can simultaneously charge 4 devices at once if you also happen to own the MI-6 pinpointer. HTH

Interesting the wear pattern. Seems the bottom of the ear is the tightest viewing the wear pattern. I think you will have no more wear with the new shaft set up. Thanks for the reply and good luck.

Not real crazy ground in the Whipsticks from my memory, just it being on the outskirts of Bendigo a pretty large inland town for OZ, good stable signal without any obvious EMI. I found it was the same throughout the OZ fields I prospected in, varying from crazy to benign. Good sample vid of the King fitted with a NF coil for me.

Started noticing this more inconsistent pairing behavior after the 0.70/0.71 update. This is a longstanding issue with the MI-6 dating back to the D1 version 4.X (Deus 1 is at 5.21 now). Several Deus 1 software update releases were required to get acceptably stable/reliable connects between the MI-6 and the original Deus 1 platform. Seems the bugaboo is back with the D2. Hopefully XP will address and improve this soon in a future update. It really is annoying that XP has regressed to an extent in this aspect of their newest and most capable detecting platform (D2).

This is an awesome book, helped me so much in becoming familiar with the Anfibio.

Yeah I do believe the instructions and some of the wording in the manual needs an update, its just natural to plug in the 3 way cable as mentioned. Hell I did it as well after glancing through that first section, I didn't expect it to be different coming from the original Deus as it had the 3 way cable for charging the lot. The ports as Jeff mentioned are all mini USB ports. I can still charge the phones by the 3 way as long as it doesn't get bumped as mine falls out quite easily, but will complete the charge if I am careful. At least there is no way of damaging the port as there both the same connection, only one is a little longer than the other... EDIT: Just to clarify, the Headphone Port is definitely not a USB type C connector.

this problem has already been solved

Beautiful hunt and you came away with some of the change you dropped so many years ago. So glad you remembered the general area during one you of your drunken sex parties. I have problems remembering where I laid my car keys on a Saturday morning sometimes. Great videos and great hunting, good luck on your next outing.

You'll be impressed. You may not take it off. 👍

April 18 1937 Part One We are continuing to get wild hooligans from town who want to come out here to the mine and either meet us or work with us. Last night I heard Ben and Sarge holler out at someone who was trudging up the side of the creek toward our camp. The crew came over and had a look at what the hollering was about. I nearly laughed but held it back. Sarge was not so kind and began to laugh and hoot. There in front of us stood an old guy dressed like a cowboy from back in the 1800’s. He wore a large cowboy hat that nearly covered his face and also some old jeans and fur leggings. He had on boots with spurs as well as two six shooters in a holster. He was smoking a home rolled cigarette and gave us all an evil stare. I walked over to him and asked what he was up to. He said his name was Slim Saunders and he was from a ranch just outside of town. I reckoned him to be about 60 in years or maybe a bit more. He told us he had done everything from ranching to mining to logging and even bounty hunting in his day. I started to like him. John asked him what we could do for him. He said he had heard quite a bit about us in town. Some of the groups that hung around in the tavern said we were the mining crew from hell and we took names and kicked ass. He said he was looking for work and wanted to join up with us. I asked him what kind of job he was looking for. He said he was a scratch shot with his 45’s and could work as security. He said he could also handle a rifle with the best of them. Before I could say anything he pointed to a limb on a pine tree about 100 feet away. He said to look toward the end of the limb and there was a small branch starting off to the right with a pine cone hanging on. I said that I saw it. He slapped leather with both hands and quick drawing his Colts and fired off a round from each gun. The pine cone flew off the limb. Then he twirled the pistols and put them back in their holsters as slick as grease. Then he told Will to set out two empty tin cans about 100 feet away. Will set them up on a rock and came back over. Slim said to watch and he pulled his right hand quickly and shot as the gun cleared leather. One of the cans flew off the rock. Before the sound of the shot died he pulled his left hand with the Colt and did the same thing. The can flew off the rock just like the first one. He twirled them back into the holster as slick as could be. I asked him what kind of pay he wanted. He said just his grub and whiskey, a dollar, and a little taste of gold from time to time. I told him to hold on while I talked with my crew. Everyone liked Slim. We decided to give him a go. I went over and asked him when he wanted to start. He just looked at me and said “Well, I’m here aint I ?” and that was that. Then he asked if we had any whiskey. I handed him a new bottle and we all sat around the fire as darkness fell. Slim took a couple of pulls from the bottle and began to tell us his story. TO BE CONTINUED ...............

Thanks. I am known as digger27 on most forums, REVIER on FM, I sold tons of F2's for Fisher after many read how deeply I explored that one, I coined the phrase "Church of the Compadre" after starting a thread that kind of went viral, I have been called an "expert" by Dankowski and many others because of what I discovered and posted about how the F70 works and the huge amount of settings I have experimented with. I am no expert...I just have the patience to explore new ideas, (mine and others), and the curiosity to keep at it until I get them to work...or find out they don't. The Nox is new to me and with so many settings and adjustments available I will be happily exploring them for awhile. Experimenting with these out of the box and all settings are great fun for me, about as much fun as finding great treasure, but there is another reason I am forced to try so many things attempting to be successful. I live and hunt around Birmingham Alabama, we have the mineralized red clay soil, the black stuff is also highly mineralized, we have all the ingredients to make iron and steel naturally occurring in our soil and that causes us problems, the iron and steel industries were everywhere and were predominant from the 1800's way into the late 20th century and they dumped slag into landfills for decades for some reason and that infested dirt was spread out all over the city as it was built up in both commercial and residential areas. Then most if the public areas I hunt, parks and such, were old home sites or residential neighborhoods so hunting in most sites is like hunting old cellar sites...millions of nails, wire, screws and iron of all shapes and sizes. Oh yea...Not to mention the 100-150 years of trash because as far as I can tell nobody around here ever understood what a trashcan is or how to use one. We have massive masking issues, major depth issues, a huge amount of trash and iron issues and hunting around here ain't for sissies. I wish things were different but they are not so what are you gonna do....we either deal with it all and figure it out or quit the hobby.I lived and hunted for 3 years out in the almost perfect soil out in Kansas and Missouri, I started here then moved out there and thought I was in heaven...but we ended up moving back a few years ago, I cried when I realized I had gone from hell to heaven and I was going back to hell again. Short of using a PI to combat our devil dirt, an option I considered and then rejected because digging tons of trash just ain't my thing anymore, the only other options we have is to pick tools that seem to work decently and then learn them to the extreme in hopes we can get just a little deeper or unmask just a few more hidden pieces of treasure. THAT is why I got an Equinox and so did a couple of hunting buddies. It seems to deal with our challenges better than everything we have used before around here. It goes quite a bit deeper or at the very least ID's targets better and more accurately at deeper levels, it unmasks better, it seems to be finding us more than the Garretts, Whites, Fishers and Tesoros we have experience with not to mention other Minelabs like the E Trac...it makes it easier to find the great stuff, anyway. I don't know why this tech appears to work better than Minelab FBS tech plus all those others in our dirt but it does. To us this thing is no hype, I never even considered getting one until a friend got one and I saw it do some pretty shocking things right in front of my eyes...till then it wasn't even on my radar. If I still lived in Kansas I never would have thought twice about this thing, out there everything worked and worked well but here any tiny advantage we can get might make the difference between success and failure. Game changer...maybe, I really had my eye on the new Manta technology that FTP is working on. A true PI with a working discrimination feature and ability, that really might change things for us around here but with just with few hours standing behind the Equinox I have been shocked and awed...and that is saying something. Now my job is to figure out how best to utilize this thing, find the optimum settings, learn the language better than just well and dive deep into this thing as best I can to see what it is capable of.Like I said this stuff is fun for me, luckily I am still finding great things on this journey as I learn and I expect that will continue as my journey continues. I read all posts I can find about how other owners set the tools up that I am attempting to learn and what they know and discover and I can't tell you how grateful I am for that. I learn from others and that really speeds up the learning curve. I consider it a privilege so I have always paid it forward and posted about anything I think can be helpful to the community and help the next guy out. It takes a village...and the metal detecting community is a great one!

13 oz @ 24" with the 6000 11" coil. Who said it was just a flys*t detector? :) With property owner John: Ended up 10 ozs after the acid bath with approximately an oz in detached bits-

Stumbled across this on Youtube, first episode.... --- update: looks like the person had to take the video down, they must have been naughty and not allowed to put the video on Youtube.

April 18 1937 Part Three Slim said that back when he was just out of prison he got a job working on a ranch. He didn’t have a whole lot of cowboy skills when they hired him but learned real fast and was soon one of the best cowboys on the ranch. He was in a poker game one night. It took place in the main bunkhouse and Slim was losing real bad. The cowboy who had all the money was the best bronc buster on the ranch. Or so he thought. Slim challenged him to a bronc busting contest. Slim put up one of his Colts against the money in the purse. The other cowboys got the meanest horse out of the barn. They called him Freight Train. He was bad to the bone. The first cowboy took a turn on him and got thrown after just a few seconds. Slim got on and rode out the horse and broke him. The cowboy who lost refused to give up the purse. One of the other guys was holding Slims Colt & gave it back to him. The losing cowboy challenged Slim to a duel. Slim said this guy thought he was pretty quick on the draw. They walked out fifty paces and stood looking at each other. Slim told him to make his move when he was ready. After a wait of about thirty seconds the cowboy slapped leather. Slim came up with both guns firing just as they cleared their holsters and the slower guy went down on his knees firing off a round into the dirt. Then he slowly rolled over on his side. He was dead. Both of Slims shots had pierced the chest in the area of the heart. Slim calmly walked over and took the money out of the cowboy’s vest pocket. It was covered in blood. The ranch owner had heard the ruckus and came out of his house with his rifle. It was way past midnight. When he saw one of his top hands laying dead on the ground he wasn’t happy. He pointed the rifle at Slim and told him he was going to shoot him dead. TO BE CONTINUED ....................

14 quarters alone, and 12 nickles, and 8 dams. a Euro coin, and a token and some bling today.

And there is of course the easy way: if you can scrape the target off with your boots don't even bother. Simple but effective in many grounds. Relieves about 50% of the frustration. GC

I must admit, I don't understand XP's one washer theory. That doesn't really make much sense to me, but after switching out the lower shaft to the carbon fiber shaft, I've got rubber washers on both sides now so that's not a problem.

Yep, we have become a bunch of softies, they'd have a good chuckle at the things we complain about. Oh you have to carry 3kg, you poor little thing. 😅

I often think the same. Amazing what the old-timers have accomplished without any advanced machinery and in often brutal conditions. Whenever I see those hand stacked large boulder piles along the river canyons in gold country I feel embarrassed when complaining about the weight of the 7000....But I wonder if they were just in general more enduring people with more physical strength, and most of all with more will-power and determination. GC

Sounds like you've got a bad coil strick as mine are not bump sensitive in any way, neither was JW's coil right up until it died, fortunately the aftermarket ones will be out soon and should be better build quality, they're hand made too so at least it means they're tested before leaving the factory, Be sure to add yours to the poll when you know if its a lemon or not 🙂 I'm starting with the NF 12x7" and if I like it I'll get the 8.5x6" too. I didn't want to start with the smallest as I'm satisfied with the sizes of small gold the 11" finds, I just want some more depth on it and if a smaller coil provides more depth on small gold I'll be happy, it should do, it's how it normally works for me. In the World in which we live now you don't need a King and a Queen, two Kings is very acceptable these days so who knows, maybe once I get some more coils the 6000 might move up the ranks for me too. Novic, I am just not the kinda guy to make it into the back country like that on foot, I would need to hike for weeks to get in there, and climb over many mountains on my way, these are not the little humps in the ground you Aussies call mountains 🙂 I really am amazed at the work the old timers have done here, and the distances and ground they covered to do so, it's truly amazing what they did. I guess they just kept walking and climbing to get to new places and followed the gold, I couldn't survive if I was doing what they did.

I was on tour with my rock show. Break time now.

And everyone that’s used my machine immediately bought one. The coils are not knock sensitive, period. There is something wrong with the detector.

The Metallica a Heavy Metal Scoop

Could not agree more! Just the weight sucks.

I just hope we don't enter another era of marginally eeking out small tech gains with each new $10k detector, sorta like we saw when I first started paying attention to detectors around the time the 3500 was king. The 4000 was...eh. The 4500 was enough to convince me to buy an expensive machine and start playing the PI game (I had a GMT only at the time) but it wasn't that much better than the 3500's people I knew were using, honestly. The 5000 left me ho-hum and I went back to the 4500 since I didn't need Fine Gold and I didn't see a lot of stability improvement to make the price tag worth holding. I get the feeling that's kinda what they are looking at doing with ZVT, and if that's the case, I'm losing interest in the game. I'd take a lightweight 7000 equivalent, sell my 6 and 7, and probably call it good there. Everything I've read leads me to believe that discrim is entirely possible on hybrid type machines. That we've had to wait and wait and wait makes me wonder if I'm either wrong (very likely), or ML is just playing a game milking tech improvements out again like with the old GPX game. 7 years since the Z release...? That's an eon in the tech world. Either way, I feel my excitement for new machines sapping and going away lately compared to how I felt about seeing what the future might hold after the Z first came out. I'm saying this all as a guy sitting squarely in the USA though. I'm guessing in Australia and other places in the world where nuggets are still more numerous, people might not look at it the same way.

Nice job. Those buttons are a "goal unto themselves" here in the extreme-hunter circles of CA. We love them. Here's an article I wrote on the subject. You can find your particular button here. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rX9XFCFw-SKRiUFZfdtzFg7GIjUwzoJJ/view?ts=6182e46f thanx for sharing !

I’ve been using pitch square tones in beach program for turf hunting. Notch and bottle caps at zero, Magnetic ground on accept and salt on 7 or lower. Works well more stable in bad ground. Better than park program.

Metal detectors are made to find objects buried in undisturbed ground. If you wanted to compare how fast two cars can go, 0-60 and top end, would you do that by jacking them up on blocks and seeing how fast the wheels spin? That will give you some basic hp info, but only taking them out on the track, where rubber meets the road, tells you the real truth about how all the systems play together. It also matters who is behind the wheel. Long story short a detector sees everything under the coil, the ground, and the entire target matrix, and engineers design for this, very much including how the coil is designed. “See around” is at least as important, maybe more so, than “see between,” in a park type detecting scenario. Contrived tests can give you little bits of information, but nothing beats comparative testing on real undug targets.

I had one years ago and liked it a lot. Best used on the beach, wet and dry as opposed to the surf. Performance and audio was very good. Indicator lights are a guide only. If it’s a red light only then you are dealing with pure iron targets. Iron alloy targets such as bottle caps will be a yellow light which is also most of your gold rings. Green light is high conductors such as silver rings and some coins. Basically, if it’s anything except a pure red light then you dig ! There is a spring loaded toggle switch that alternates between AM and DISC.....sometimes it doesn’t stay put in the DISC position and flicks back to AM.......only a minor problem. Mine was a very reliable unit......it’s a twin frequency machine which is a good thing. Don’t worry about the Ground Balance knob......kind of redundant in most conditions.

For a beach hunter $100 might be a no brainer....... sand scoops cost more. You may be able to change out the coil, don't know if it is hard wired or if it can use the coils from the TDI or Coiltek. At the minimum it has some iron signaling which is a good feature even if it works mediocre and at the minimum should work good in the wet sand. For floating coil, if you can move the control box in front of the handle that would nose it down fine.