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This is a true story regarding my find of an 1891 San Francisco dog license. My information was obtained through research at the Wil Di Magi National archives. In 1890 a larcenous scoundrel narrowly escaped being hung in Australia and fled to California to continue in his nefarious activities. when he came ashore in San Francisco He stole a families beloved dog. He proceeded to a northern sierra mining camp and advertised the dog for sale as a gold sniffing hound. He then stole a large gold nugget and slathered it with bacon grease and buried it near the camp. the next day he brought the dog out to demonstrate it to 47 eager buyers. he turned the dog loose and, sure enough, the dog went and dug up the nugget (which he then licked clean of bacon grease). There was an immediate bidding war for the amazing gold sniffing dog which sold for an astounding $152.75. The scoundrel from San Francisco couldn't help himself and started laughing at all the foolish prospectors and miners. but while he was laughing the dog disappeared, but soon returned with a huge nugget and gave it to it's new owner. the dogs owner was then offered $842.63 for the dog which he accepted. This same thing happened several more times throughout he coming days resulting in a very joyous, prosperous and happy mining camp, except for the scoundrel who returned to Australia and begged them to hang him. No one Knows what became of the famous gold sniffing dog though rumor has it that he became the leader of the (now extinct) Sierra Dingos. And there are those that claim to have one of his descendants, such as a dog named Wilson out of Reno Nevada one named Buddy near Oakly, California, one named Rooster from the North East Sierras but the only convincing one is an dog named Danny, owned by me and not for sale. The only known photo of the famous gold sniffing hound taken in 1896

Leaving LAX Sunday July 3 to OZ..🤠 Stay tuned for a probable interesting dramatic time..lolol

Already planning it Simon. Just have to remember all those deep spots over the last 40 odd years where I wished I had had a bigger coil! 🙂

Now... now... cuz you`d be chasing ya first if it wasn`t for a ML but ya right they had a rep of near perfection, halos slipped a bit maybe they`ll compensate us users by ditching those chips. 🤬

out of an old farm field, today's great find , a silver ring marked 925 which stands for 92.5% pure silver the rest made up of copper for strength

Hopefully you post some tests Simon. None of these from either manufacturer have me excited enough to make a purchase, but if they are offering a good performance boost in tests then I'll probably try one out. I've bought 3 Coiltek coils in my life (all in 4500 days) and all 3 failed, another reason I'm not too excited, and on the sidelines for this one.

My dealer doesn't do prepayment so I can change my mind any time but I've locked in the 14x9" mostly because it was coming out sooner than the other Aussie brand. I was hoping to be getting it soon but by the looks of it I'll be waiting until mid to late August now anyway so it gives me the option of changing my order and just getting three coils from the other brand instead of the two I was going to get and not bother with the 14x9". My aim was to get 2 smaller coils and one bigger one to replace my 11" which I don't trust, the 14x9 seems a good stock coil replacement seeing I'll mostly be using the smallest coils anyway.

NM certainly have given us a lot to experiment with. The versatility & performance The Legend presents, especially given the price point, is almost unbelievable.

https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/19228-legend-update/

It could be why they let the aftermarket manufacturers make coils for it so soon, not only the threat of X-coils putting videos up of adapters and coils being used causing a big "Oh No not again" moment for them but also the fact that if people start using NF and Coiltek coils instead of their Minelab coils then the number of Minelab coils failing will drop dramatically as people will be using them a lot less.

yep, I have no doubt it's the reason for the unreliable detectors, doesn't explain the coils though, not much complicated about making a mono coil for it compared to making the actual PCB of the detector and you wouldn't think reasonable quality copper wire would be too hard to get their hands on. I don't know if the coils are made by Plexus too, they maybe had them manufactured in China by another manufacturer, Plexus seems to be more to do with PCB manufacturing and not a place that would be winding coils.

I really think the global supply chain crunch, due to Covid and other related factors, is to blame. All sectors are impacted, just look at the car industry. The question is just to what extend companies, especially those with high reputation, are willing to take a gamble and risk their good name by implementing lower end backup strategies.

If technical issues with the 6k would indeed be a systemic and wide spread problem (note the word if) then I don't see how they could possibly release any more detector models anytime soon. Obviously, some major issues in quality control and manufacturing would need to be addressed first. Mine has no issue thus far however, but I surely acknowledge all the problems reported here. This brings back the king question to my mind.... GC

Actually not hard to do GC, hack saw, PVC pipe and ends from hardware store, the SDC CB is very easy to remove and fix, is rugged as, no soldering or alterations to stop one putting back into original case, batteries are just RC LiPo readily available. Another advantage is more stable threshold, I believe the voltage supplied is much more stable and does not depend on the tolerance of the voltage regulator to regulate, not because of lithium batteries used but because there is no longer spring loaded battery connections.

So far works really well. I use my pp straight up and down to find the target then put the blade just outide and pop the target out. Tip does scoop pretty well for it's size. I hunt quite a bit at the river and lakes that have packed gravel and want to test the new one on durability. Should be like a little pry bar. Shovels are useless in the gravel.

Dear Valued Members, Soon to be released 1.08 update will include the following: 1. Iron Filter (Iron Bias) and Stability settings have been added. When the device is working in Multi frequency, select the Recovery Speed setting and press the pinpoint button. Iron Filter (IF) setting ranges between 1-8 and the default value is 8. DEFAULT VALUE 8 IS THE SAME AS THE CURRENT LEGEND WITH NO IRON FILTER SETTING. Lower IF setting will increase the chances of ferrous targets to be classified as non-ferrous targets and vice versa. St setting is the fine tuning for the IF setting. When the IF is set to 8, the St setting will be inactive in the Park, Field and Gold Field modes. When the IF is set to any value below 8, the St setting can be activated by pressing the right or left button and can be adjusted by using the + and - buttons. NOTE: THE st SETTING IN THE BEACH MODE IS DIFFERENT THAN THIS NEW st SETTING! 2. Multi 3 (M3) has been added to PARK and FIELD modes. Ideal for humid, wet and/or conductive soils. It eliminates the moisture in the soils which can cause falses. It also weakens the response of targets generating 10-11 IDs such as coke and aluminum foil. 3. The selected setting in the settings menu will now blink for easier viewing. 4. Mute function has been added. On the main screen, press and hold the Frequency button to mute the device. Letters "AO" (Audio Off) will appear on the right side. You can unmute by pressing and holding the Frequency button. Even if muted, the device will revert back to unmute in the custom discrimination pattern (notch), ground balance and settings menus automatically. 5. Auto sensitivity drop in the custom discrimination pattern When you select the custom discrimination pattern (notch), the sensitivity drops down to 5 automatically. However, if you are using the automatic notch, you may not want the sensitivity to be lowered. In this case, press the Ground Balance button once to revert back to the current sensitivity. Letters "CS" (current sensitivity) will be displayed on the right side. 6. Hearing the audio through the speaker and the Bluetooth headphones at the same time When the Bluetooth setting is selected, if the Bluetooth HPs are paired, press the up button and select 2. 7. Reverting Back to Factory Defaults After selecting the user profile in the settings menu, press and hold the pinpoint button until letters Fd appear on screen. Fd will disappear after 2 seconds. 8. Audio Gain setting has been added. In the PARK, FIELD and BEACH modes, after selecting the volume, press the pinpoint button. Letters AG will appear on the right side. You can adjust the AG using the + and – buttons between 1-6. The default value is set to 3. 9. VCO Tone Pitch has been added In Tone Pitch, as the coil approaches the target, the audio frequency will change in proportion to the signal strength. It can be selected from the number of tones setting and is shown with a P. 10. Discrimination Pattern is now saved. Default discrimination pattern for PARK, FIELD, and BEACH has been defined as “F (Ferro-off)” and as “G (Ground-off)” in the Gold Field Mode. 11. Mineralization Indicator In the ground balance menu, press the discrimination button to activate the mineralization indicator. Letter GI (Ground Indicator) will appear on the right side. When you press the discrimination button again, it will revert back to Ferro Check and FC will appear. 12. The default threshold frequency level in Park, Field and Beach modes have been changed to 10. 13. Threshold parameters have been updated in the Park, Field and Beach modes. 14. Audio during ground balancing has been updated. https://www.facebook.com/noktadetect...35000278261127 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZqqKz4reAg&t=40s

Simon, at this point I don't see anything lacking in the Gold Field program on the Legend aside from some tweaks to the threshold tone and the release of 1.08 which should give it the possibility of running it in the gold fields with the least amount of iron filtering possible. Even now, it is way better than Deus 2, easily equals Deus 1 and comes really close to the Equinox 800. I have been strenuously testing all three in terms of sensitivity using its M multi frequency mode and its selectable single frequencies where it is over an inch better than Deus 2 on the same .25 gram and smaller targets. It does well in ground balance ground handling and in its great feature set which includes Ferro-Check. Legend is about to get a mineralization graph too so at least among the gold prospecting capable or at least advertised as capable detectors I have, the only VLF that beats it soundly (it beats the rest of mine too) is the Garrett 24K. Compared to the Gold Kruzer ........I would pick the Legend everytime simply due to selectable single frequency or SMF operation, recovery speed adjustments, Ferro-Check, easy to use preset ground handling discrimination patterns and its single digit notching just to name a few. The Gold Kruzer may be operating at a slightly higher frequency but it does not compete with those features since it has no notching, no recovery speed adjustments, only 1 frequency, and no form of discrimination using its Gen mode. Fast and Boost will work in milder ground only. Micro is a great little 2 tone discrimination mode but it is no deeper than Gen. In the testing I have documented for the Gold Kruzer, it is no more sensitive or deeper than the Legend.......

It looks like Stability will help with any iron falsing from a low Iron filter setting. Were going to have find a balance between Iron filter and Stability depending on where we are hunting.

At the moment (1.07) the Legend's Gold Field mode has only one audio option......single tone (no iron tone) highly modulated VCO audio that works very well. Whether it needs audio boost......I don't know. Right now and especially after the 1.08 update, I would mainly use 2 tone (after the update Pitch Tones) in Field mode for relic hunting with wide open, no discrimination Gold Field as a cross reference. But that is just me. In my dirt conditions I am not seeing a big difference depth wise on coin sized objects using Field or Gold Field with similar settings.

Thank you. I stand corrected. I was remembering the modes listed under the Audio gain section.

Dilek's first paragraph in her update synopsis under Legend Update says clearly that Iron filtering and Stability are available in Multi using Park, Field, Beach and Goldfield. The only exception is the Stability function is different in Beach mode. If she had said there was no Iron Filter/Stability in Multi Goldfield I would have gone ballistic!!!!!

I guess that's my real question. Did Iffy have a true chirping nail or does NM potentially have the IB/IF too high even at the minimal setting. In other words, is it like the Nox where you really can never turn IB off (even when set to "zero") unless you go to single frequency, in which case IB is non functional on the Nox (because it requires multifrequency in order to do its thing). Which leads me to another question I can't answer without the 1.08 update in hand. Is NM's IF functional even when the Legend is in single frequency? (If yes, that would make Nokta's Iron Filter implementation fundamentally different than Minelab's Iron Bias implementation). Can't wait to get my hands on the Legend 1.08 update and try out the new features, might actually make me put down my other detector for a whole outing. 😄

Suspect your spot on, just maybe they`ll offer the 6K without a coil.

Upcycling The new product introduction team at Plexus met various shortfalls to get the PCB boards built, identifying creative ways of salvaging and reusing parts in short supply and helping to keep the development process on track. Link to story from another company using Plexus manufacturing during Covid parts shortages.... Not sure if it could be related in any way, but still... not what you'd call ideal.

Being a mad SH Engineer as all are helped.🤪

Hey Chase, just a thought. The iron filter being set at eight may not be the max they could have made it but where they thought would be optimal in most hunting scenarios. Basically, the update was a you can cut it back(iron filter) and fine tune it(stability) but you can’t make it more update. I don’t think anyone was wanting more anyway. I’m glad we can adjust it but I’m very happy with the finds I’m getting now. Watching the testers videos will give me a good starting point to go from if I get into some heavy iron patches. I’m just trying to figure out why I haven’t bought another one for a backup. I’ve sold both my other machines. lol

In the worst EMI locations I drop the sensitivity down to 70 and the audio response to 2. That usually takes care of it but the trade off is lost depth.

I started holding all my gold at the end of this winter for the first time in over a decade instead of just selling it at the end of every season. I'm hoping it does something, but I can't help but feel that someone (read: most of the Western countries on the planet) are conspiring to keep gold down in a time of record global inflation to insure Russian gold doesn't also skyrocket and allow them to fund their war and thus neuter or cancel out all the sanctions the West has put on them. I'd love to be wrong though. It'll be interesting to see what prices do. If it gets up above $3000 and starts to reflect actual real world economics again, I'm going back prospecting full time again.

Thanks but is there a written summary version of the highlights of the latest about the forthcoming update somewhere? Love the personal touch by Dilek, but I really need the bottom line up front bullet points version. Just really don't have the patience for watching 26 minutes of talking about something I can easily read in 1 minute and spend the other 25 minutes swinging my Legend. Lol.

I run my Mi-6 in Pulse at 46 to 48. I literally have to have the Mi-6 within a foot of the RC/coil in order for it to pair consistently. Even at 48, my Mi-6 can barely hit a 3” deep coin sized target. My Teknetics Tek-Point can hit the same coin sized target at 4.5” on the highest sensitivity setting even in high mineralization………. The Tek Point and Deus 2 seem to play fairly well together also. Mi-6 in standalone mode also gets 3” or so on a coin sized target. So, even though I really like the Mi-6 stealthy pairing with Deus/ORX/Deus 2 it basically cannot match the performance and consistency of my Garrett Carrot or especially my Tek-Points.

Go on Simon you can say it…… “Nuggetfinder”. 😂

Yep, I'll be giving them all a workout with some videos. At this stage I'm keeping my order as is with the 2 smallest coils from the other Aussie brand and the 14x9" Coiltek as I really like the 14x9" size on my older GPX, I'll only change off the Coiltek if it becomes later in delivery than the other brand. So far the videos of them in use have been very disappointing I think but that can be down to the video more than the coil. I have high hopes for them all, and at least I'll have more confidence in the coil, their failure rates can't be anywhere near Minelabs. I've had good luck with my Coiltek 10x5" Joey for my older model GPX which is waterproof and my creek coil now, great little coil and I'm glad I've got it as they discontinued it, so sad to see Coiltek discontinue the 11" AI coil as well, another good coil gone but at least I got one before they were gone. I'll end up getting the Coiltek 10x5" at a later date as I do really like that size. For me even if there isn't much of a performance difference with the aftermarket coils the size difference alone is the performance difference I want. The 11" round is pretty big in bushy and rocky areas, if you can't get your coil to the soil no matter how good it is it's not going to keep up with a smaller coil.

Done and dusted

Sounds like you're already screwed Paul because July 5th is this coming Tuesday not Sunday lol Strick

Yes, the gold modes been a bit neglected and that's the area the Legend is lacking a bit. Perhaps future updates will give the gold mode a bit more love. If Nokta are intending to release a Gold Kruzer replacement at some point they'd want to iron out their Multi Frequency gold prospecting technology a bit more to make it viable, no point releasing another single frequency prospecting VLF, their days are numbered. They can use the Legend to get it right and tweak it up then release the MF Gold Kruzer with a higher KHz and bingo! a detector people will want to buy.

Jeff's correction prompted a question to me; if Audio gain is not available in Goldfield, is it available in the other modes when using Pitch audio. Is there a special difference between say Goldfield and Field with Pitch tone other than the kHz used? I'm very glad to have the option of VCO, even in single tone(I was hoping for VCO in 2,4,6 and even 60 tone) What makes Goldfield "special"? I want to build a "Relic mode" similar to the D2.

What about the bottlecap issue?

After update to 0.71 is better but not perfect. Yes, I will choose Garrett AT over MI-6. Is deeper and easier. to use. Try to connect use it in standard mode without pair. Without instruction you can't do it. Magic of pressing button in time and few times in row. Nightmare.

Fair deal!!😁

I thought it was going to be an exclusive club but its looking like Minelab have opened membership for everyone!

I have never figured why all coils and covers are either black or white; not real good for hunting in the water. I see rubber coil bumpers listed on ebay in various colors. Has anyone seen/tried one of these

Was you asleep when you heard this?😉

I would set sensitivity max if the ground is mild. I use 2 tone w/ tone break at 5. Set tone break at 11 if you don't want to dig foil. I use "A" disc pattern with Park or Field. Set iron tone low. I'm not sure which is more sensitive to gold, Park or Field. Try Gold mode too. You need to use the headphone adapter if you are going deeper.

I get similar “iron halos” around most deep targets in much of the mineralized dirt I detect in using the Equinox, Legend and Deus 2 if the coin sized or so target is 6” deep or deeper. Using little or no iron bias, finding the best recovery speed setting and getting a very exact ground balance (if possible) are some ways that seem to help. So does using a higher weighted frequency program like the 2 programs on the Equinox and the Sensitive program on Deus 2. I haven’t done much with the Legend yet to try and help this issue since I knew these updates were coming. Hopefully the new M3 frequency weighted option will help too.

Thank you for being so responsive to user suggestions to improve your products. This willingness, along with your in field performance & quality is what sets you apart from the competition. NM is a true World Class example for all to see.

The heel and toe are more sensitive as the windings come closer together, it's the same with all elliptical coils, but then for outright depth on larger targets the center of the coil is the deepest, it's only on small targets the heel and toe are deeper. For the 6" the most sensitive spot is always the very middle of the coil regardless of target size. For gold prospecting the elliptical is very beneficial if you can't get the center of the 6" over the target due to rocks or bushes. I think both coils are very good, each have their strong points. For outright small gold sensitivity the 6" seems best though.

Thanks Phrunt, I will be watching it. No Guts, No Glory! Its all fake and staged as it comes, but it makes good TV.

I lived in Greensboro for many years and walked the tracks in the McLeansville area. Quite a bit of the trackside property is wooded so you're not gonna drag a PI mat around very well, and all of it is private land. But the biggest obstacle to finding this treasure is that the story itself is fake. There was no Civil War gold train and there are no pots of gold. The story originated in 1969 in True Treasure magazine which published mostly fabricated treasure stories. People like Jameson repeat those stories for the purpose of selling books.

For you folks in England with milder soil conditions than what many of us in the Western USA have.......the Legend may be just fine compared to the Equinox. For me, the Equinox was a very fulfilling answer to a long standing prayer for a VLF detector that can operate efficiently in really bad soil conditions. If the Legend can do that too......fantastic. I have my doubts about that. It will do what I need it to do which is replace the Equinox 800, Equinox 600, AT Series, Gold Kruzer and Simplex for submerged water coin, jewelry, relic and gold nugget detecting. If it ends up being capable of more compared to the Equinox in bad dirt/beach conditions......thank you Nokta Makro!!!

I'm in Northern California and yes, that is my experience up here. Our soil is all over the place, to the point that VLF's can be pretty much useless in certain areas due to mineralization. I ended up getting a PI and the difference was unbelievable. The PI won't see small gold nearly as good as the VLF but at least you're looking for gold and not digging up hot rocks and ghost signals!