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It rained for 4 days, got in a couple hrs detecting for about 1 gram. It stopped raining on Monday and I got in a full day for 7 grams, biggest 1.4 grams about 14 inches deep. Tue we did some exploring on some old leases, nothing but trash. We still got in half day back at the local patch for just shy of 4 grams, all crumbs. Yesterday a full day on the patch looking for deep targets. I got the lunker of the trip so far, 3 gram nugget close to 18 inches deep. Ended the day with 9 grams, the photo includes the half day finds. I would have to dig a moon crater without the 6000 for a pinpointer. The 17" Xcoil concentric is my go to for deep targets and it doesn't miss much of the fly specs either. We're packing up and moving 200 miles to some 40e ground today. We're hoping for an opportunity at bigger gold. The first photo of 14x9 coil in the dig hole was the 1.4 gram gram nugget. The 2nd with the scoop beside it was the 3 grammer. My photos always end up sideways from my phone, but you get the concept. So far I'm just over an oz for the trip. I have about 4 more detecting days left.

...and certainly one of a kind. Back on Sept 16th I posted about some of my finds from Hurricane Kay including a picture of a silver Tiffany earring. I made a similar post on another website as well as asking if any other detectorists had found an earring that would match. As it turned out, the same week that I found that earring another hunter, 2300 miles away, on a beach near Savannah, Georgia scooped out a perfect match. He saw my post and graciously agreed to getting both halves together to make a complete set. Some lucky girl in my family is going to know just how special her "new" earrings are.

I thought about selling the 7k when I finished this trip, until I started working with the big Concentric. It is an amazing coil and brings new life to the 7k. Now I'm anxious to return to my old spots in Yuma to give them another go.

Hey I lost $50 over at pier beach while I was handing my wife the rest of my wallet. I was over by the volley ball courts. The wind must have blown it right at you. Really would like it back, She has a bad Amazon habit!!!!

It's nice to get a tip every now and then! I hope the new Monticello has dropped the Spoons mode and added a PC (Paper Currency) mode! 😉

I'll sell you the matching ring Ha Ha, Really nice job with retrieving the second one. cool story.

My "That's mine" story? Years ago I found a big gold high school class ring in a lake. I tried to locate the owner from the info on and in the ring to no avail. Eventually I went to sell the ring on eBay and had bids up to $200 when someone messaged me saying that they thought that the ring was theirs. Sure enough, they provided details that proved that they had lost it so I cancelled the bidding and returned the ring. I only asked for them to pay for postage but I kind of felt like I had lost $200.

Like F350Platinum said, your location/ground conditions and target choices/variety are the keys to picking the best detector for your situation. These are my opinions after hundreds to thousands of in the field hours with the three detectors mentioned next. Where I detect, the Equinox, Deus 2 and the Nokta Legend (why aren't you considering it) are so close in performance that the differences can be measured in fractions of an inch EXCEPT on small low conductive targets and in ground with higher iron mineralization. The Equinox and Legend pull substantially ahead of Deus 2 from my field experience and testing of these three models if small low conductor targets like small sub gram gold nuggets, micro sized gold jewelry and high iron content land or beach mineralization are a factor. Right now the only reasons I would pick Deus 2 over these other detectors and possibly Manticore is for hunting man-made iron trashed sites for mid to high conductor coin sized or bigger targets, for use mostly as a submerged or diving detector and for its exceptional ergonomics for users that need a really lightweight detector for whatever reasons they might have. Otherwise, the Equinox and Legend are both outstanding alternatives to Deus 2 for coin sized coin, jewelry and relic hunting from my experience. As far as the Manticore.......who knows.

😀 the margins on those twenties look a tad too wide, and they're pretty crisp. Were they printed just before they were planted? 🤔 Looks like an interesting bracelet or part of one there. Most I ever found was $250 blowing around in a parking lot. 🤣

I did not take it any other way. Was more a FYI for people in general explaining that my "opinions" are usually a little more than that.

My "that's mine" story doesn't get any better than this. Found 3 wallets on the beach over a year ago on different beaches. All loaded with $ and cards. 1 of them I drove by the address on my way home that morning. Guy answered and said no one lives here by that name. Finally tracked him down and he said keep the cash and return everything else. There was over a $1000 in it. The other 2 I believe I found on FB. Left messages for both , no response. Only recently did I tear everything up except the cash , very strange.

I will just echo what has already been said. The Equinox 800 IS a high end multifrequency detector. Do you need something more expensive than that? Only you can decide. My Equinox does the trick for me. And second, a Minelab Vanquish or Nokta/Makro Legend will fit any budget.The point being that Minelab was not really wrong when they said that single frequency is obsolete, and I recommend anyone looking at a new detector get a multifrequency model, at whatever price point you can afford.

I found a $50 bill years ago on the beach. Wasn't sure it was real so I ran it by may bank, and yep the real deal! (and yes, I kept it!) 🤪

I am not about to tell you which detector or detectors to own. I will say you seem to be doing very well with the Equinox 800. That was an excellent find that you photographed. Also the Equinox did very well in the video provided on page 2 of this thread by Slavomir and its performance with those settings was very similar to what I see and the settings I use where I detect in high iron mineralization except that I like to hear the iron responses also if there are any. After owning, using and really liking Deus 2 Lite and the Legend, I believe they would also be able to detect the targets in Prymek7's video especially if Deus 2 was using its 11" coil and they were using their excellent SMF technology. As for do you need a high end detector versus an Equinox? I assume you mean would a Deus 2 or Manticore make a big difference and is it worth the extra expense. Again, as others have said, it totally depends on your hunting type=land vs submerged, soil conditions, amounts of natural and human made iron in the soil/sand and the type, possible depth and size of non-ferrous or ferrous targets you are most likely to be hunting. For many people, ergonomics really matter too as far as how long one can detect with or without fatigue. I often hear these statements......90% detector/10% operator and the opposite 10% detector/90% operator and many variations of those equations thrown about. Where I detect most often, the detector makes all the difference and I just operate it and interpret what it is telling me. These latest simultaneous multi frequency detectors like the Equinox, Deus 2 and the Legend give me extremely accurate information about almost every target and they get the conductivity and ferrous or non ferrous right almost all of the time on coin sized targets down to the edge of detection of 9 to 10 inches on small USA coinage and is similar to Prymek7's video. Single frequency detectors and the Equinox, Legend and Deus 2 using their available selectable single frequencies may or may not hit those same 9" to 10" deep targets with some kind of audio response but they will absolutely not identify the conductivity of those targets accurately deeper than 4" where I detect. You mentioned all of the frequencies available on Deus 2 using its selectable single frequency Mono program. There are 49 of them. The default frequencies are 4.4, 7.5, 13, 17.1, 25, 32 and 40.4 kHz. There are 3 higher and three lower selectable frequencies on either side of the default frequencies ranging from: 4.0 to 4.7 kHz, 6.9 to 8.0 kHz, 10.3 to 15.1 kHz, 15.6 to 20.7 kHz, 22.0 to 28.5 kHz, 29.4 to 35.3 kHz and 36.3 to 45.4 kHz. It is very nice and helpful to be able to see the exact manually selected frequencies. Thank you XP!!! You only get to pick the frequency using this Mono program. The frequency shifts available in the FMF programs when performing a frequency scan do not include a display of the actual frequencies being used. The Equinox 800 has 6 selectable single frequencies 4, 5, 10, 15, 20 and 40 kHz. There are 18 other manually selectable frequencies for each of those 6 frequencies which can be accessed during the noise cancel procedure. They can be individually selected from -9 to +9. What those actual frequencies are/how big the increments are between each shift is not displayed for the end user. Also, I don't know if say choosing 40 kHz for example means that 40 kHz is the value of 0 in the -9 to +9 frequency shift range. Maybe Slavomir knows the size of those frequencies shifts and where they lie on the -9 to +9 scale.

Thanks Chuck, but it worked out for the best. I’m a union man now with a pension, good pay, and my side business is doing well. Plus I can detect just for fun instead of work. It is sad that White’s shut its doors but does not surprise me. I hope the silver lining is that Garrett can use some of the work we did and give the overseas companies hell for a few years.

"Life's a garden, dig it." -Joe Dirt

FisherSari.... 1st question is.. can multi-frequency give better results than a single-frequency detector?.. Everything will depend on the terrain... because you also have conductive and mineralized terrain... So multi-frequency should give better results as a rule... The second question is... can there be a significant difference between the current multi-frequency detectors? ... ... Yes, this difference exists.., and on certain types of terrain, one multi-frequency detector can be significantly better than other multi-frequency detectors... The last time it was confirmed to me was this weekend on a mountain mineralized test field.. where my colleague Prymek7 recently buried a kind of target line at a depth of 24 cm... - at the limit of detection .. for current multi-frequency detectors.. ......Here it must be said... that this test showed differences in the detectors... also between different multi-frequency programs and also in single-frequency mode... .... some multi-frequency program will provide a greater advantage,, over another multi-frequency program or a single frequency.. also from the point of view of signal detection,, as well as from the point of view of the accuracy of VDI imaging of the deep target.. This was shown with the Rutus Atrex,,, where one type of multi-frequency worked a bit better and best on this type of terrain,, compared to the other multi-frequency mode or 1 frequency.. It was the same with Equinox.800, where it was shown that the Field 1 program really worked better and more stably in this mineralized terrain... compared to the Field 2 program. in the test you can also see... how a large 15" goliath coil can really increase the depth of detection with the Atrex...,., and the detector was able to pass and detect targets just fine... even at the limit depth of 24 cm - for this terrain. .. So we will make an even more difficult line of 3 targets that we will bury at an extreme depth of 27 cm.. read this 3-4 bar mineralized terrain....

Yeah Wes it's incredible, there are flumes all over the Sierra's - which you probably know better than I do. I am always amazed at the amount of work the old timers put in. I remember in the late 70s I dredged down through 16 feet of overburden to get to the bedrock, only to find that when I did, there were two Chinese coins laying in a huge bedrock crack opened up down for almost a yard. The old timers had already picked it clean decades ago.

I’m glad to hear that big concentric X Coil is working for you there Steve. It was a big investment, and a real pain to pack for a trip, so glad the gamble paid off.

I have the Deus II and hunt in multi and single frequency modes. The one thing that matters most is having the right ground to detect on. A fancy machine will not find treasure where there is none to be found, though it may reduce the amount of trash you dig.

If I learned one thing from my time at White's it's that trying to keep issues under wraps results in the Streisand effect. But change is hard and companies are slow to whip out the mea culpa. Anyways I will try the machine out when it gets back and maybe post an update.

OK, so what does that mean? Only available to Australian users? No service in U.S.? If I have to have an Aussie IP address to even see it, then as far as I am concerned I am being actively blocked. Why nothing on the US website?And what about sales of older models sitting on shelves - nobody telling buyers about this? Not a good look. I have to admit I have a beef with all these companies. They want our names, addresses, emails, etc., but apparently it's only to try and sell us stuff. When do we ever get an email or a letter from any of these detector companies telling us about product issues and updates? Not just Minelab, all of them. Not just metal detectors either. I saw it big time in the powersports industry.

I just want to know what settings you used and what machine was it. Also what did it show up as for an ID.

Do Detectorist Need A High End Multi Frequency Detector Yes, I do>and I DESERVE IT!

So basically rolling back the price increases 🤔

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww (Not only outta likes , outta sads too) Oh well , karma points ! One for trying to find the owner before trying to sell it.. And another for returning to the (late to the party) original owner later. (that makes the points worth $100 each ?) 🖖

Come on minelab let us play with black friday réduction

I guess there might be other different definitions sometimes. You got lucky , but we won't tell them that ! OK I couldn't resist adding another phrase to the story...

Thx Slavomir for the video , I like the Rutus audio , it is very accurate with short signals , I like that ... and It goes deep .. I agree they are important differences between detectors , not only in terms of electronics/depth separation performance but also in terms of mechanical aspects like weight/ergonomy etc .. Back to FisherSari question . Personally I have been testing VLF detectors during 10+ years now , almost all brands , and yes they are often important differences between them . Just like with cars or digital cameras .. And some are better than the others for your kind of hunting

My guess would be that they are on top of things...not all business are created equal. Maybe they started sooner on production? Maybe they sell more coils then NF so they have access to more raw materials...NF has a rep for good coils...maybe they are in no hurry and want the coils perfect.. You will often hear people say “they may be slow but they do good work” one of my favorite business slogans “ he may be slow but he ain’t no good either” strick

You won’t be able to retune the coil without the exact equipment White’s had. It looks like the repair facility has it which is good news.

Don`t forget the Full Moon Steve, those big nuggets are starting to shake and heading for the surface. Night time, full moon=Big Nuggets! Try it!

Nice work! Glad to see the concentric scoring some deep ones for someone else too. That thing really feels like having the equivalent of a GPZ 8000 to me, in terms of just comparing depth gain to stock. The 15" actually comes close in depth too while being lighter, I think all around it's probably a better swiss army knife do all coil. But that 17" definitely is a bit deeper when going for all out depth.

Found this button couple days before the quarter. Not sure how old it is, but was coming up a solid 15 on the Nox 800. Pretty sure I saw one cent on the penny but it’s in bad shape, and the bullet seems fairly recent.

They might of been picking up iron with a large coil and just thought it was falsing. I dig iffy signals in these areas, that’s the only reason I found a large cent a couple weeks ago. I’ll be out there this weekend, that’s for sure.

Minelab gets my finger wag of the month award for poor business ethics here. I'm glad there is a fix, but that took like a year of some stressful hair pulling, and I'm not sure Minelab would have done anything at all if not for the continual posting by some of us bringing the problem up, not letting it drop off the radar, and not normalizing it. What I'm curious about is if this fixes the stability issues in the places that seem location specific (I posted a video of one of them a while back). My theory almost from the start is that the 6000 can only deal with so much EMI. Call that max amount X. Right off the bat, the speaker takes up like 80% of X. So, if you encounter a location with local (radio, cell, wifi, aliens, whatever) EMI levels above 20% of X, you've met or exceeded the total 100% amount of EMI the detector can deal with, and it looses stability, whereas the same detector running headphones would be stable still as it's only dealing with local EMI. It only has resources to deal with so much, thereafter it bogs down, confuses itself, and loses stability. Thus, both a speaker and a location specific problem, and something not everyone would see unless they detect enough different places. I've been to enough places that I see a definite pattern though, and it's related to the speaker somehow, I've been sure of that since the start. In other words, my gut feeling up to this point is it's more than just a speaker/EMI issue. It's an issue with EMI in general and the 6000's ability to cope with it past a certain amount. The speaker just adds so much EMI at once that it makes the problem more readily obvious. And that's what I hope they have fixed. Hopefully I can get my machine back in time before snow socks those locations in, so I can see if it's allowed it to run stable in those previously undetectable locations. If not, then they still have a problem IMO.

Excellent! We have a lot of members that are "across the pond", so I'm sure you will get a lot more great advice very soon. I'm in a rural area of the USA so I don't have EMI issues either, except one place that is near a cell tower. The Deus 2 did very well there, the Equinox has to be switched to 15khz to operate in closer proximity to the tower. If you're older, retired like me, the Deus 2 is a great detector for its light weight and ergonomics. I can usually use either detector all day (I have a carbon fiber shaft on the Equinox), but the Deus 2 will not cause any arm cramps later 😀 You have a lot of potential for much older relics than we find, so the Deus is a little more favorable being designed in France. One would think Europe was in the designers' minds. My statements are mostly general, I have much the same overall detecting experience as you, but have been doing it a lot for the past 2 and a half years.

Yup, I'm confident its a mainboard replacement. It could also be why they're quite tight lipped about it and not making it an easy thing to find out about. The cost of the repair for them would be quite high. They're not really making it obvious which detectors need it, date ranges or anything. I would not be surprised if its a year or more worth of detectors and they're just hoping most people think the problem is normal behaviour and don't contact them for warranty repairs on it.

I think WesD is right. There is a similar thing in Colorado called "Hanging Flume" which looks pretty much identical. It was used to get water above the terrace gravel levels so they could be hydrauliced. The boards in that case were salvaged (the ones easy to get anyways) for other projects after the flume shut down, likely happened to the flume in your pictures too.

This was some of the "hand-crafted" Sweet Home touch the ladies in the coil department had to do to tune these. With the initial prototype coils, when heated to 120 degrees F they would go out of tune. Without modern epoxy dispensers, plastic housings, or better yet software ability to compensate for different X and R null drifts, I started experimenting with different materials since we had only a few months to launch the 24k. The initial tuning was done with a small circle of copper wire placed where you see the foil strip. But this wire would change its electrical characteristics with temperature swings. Ever touch the bottom of a copper pan after it's been on the stove? Copper conducts heat! Add to that the epoxy having some thermal changes as well, and it was a recipe for lots of coil failures. As an avid cook, I remembered using foil on my smoker to finish off briskets and pulled pork. Even if the meat was 200 degrees inside the foil, the actual foil did not get hot. So we tried using foil and the coils were much more stable at different temperatures. However, it's still a redneck/jerry-rig fix. I am sure Garrett uses better than 1950s technology to produce and tune the coils for the 24k, but at White's we were very limited on what we could invest in manufacturing. Stabilizing the foil should help, but moving it even 1mm will throw the coil out of tune.

Detecting is his tranquilizer, thus the impatience for better equipment.

All I can say is I was a multiline dealer for decades, have worked with Fisher, Garrett, Minelab, Nokta/Makro, and White's on product development and testing, and have been doing that actively still for the last decade. People ask when I mention this or that, just post an "opinion", if I have insider information. Which I generally deny, even though I think by definition I AM an insider. Still, does anyone know what NDAs are? Nope, not me, don't know anything about anything. Yet go back and find anything I ever expressed an "opinion" on that turned out to not be correct. Just lucky, I guess.

Hey guys, I sent my GPX6000 in last week to the repair shop in Alum Bank PA. Arrived on Tuesday (yesterday) and on its way back to me Wednesday. Repair tech says "audio update has been performed" (along with a note "Coils is heavily worn" heh heh). I think 24hr turn around time is pretty damn good, but once they get flooded it will likely slow down. Pays to be early I guess!

Found this capped bust dime at a park 2 miles from this one. Same thing, about 4 inches down in a well hunted area. Worn to crap.

I agree... if you could get one right now. But you can't. Anyway, the weather will be what it will be, but I'm not holding my breath for any of this stuff, and I'm advising people, as usual, by way of hints and suggestions, about stuff that I maybe just might possibly kinda sorta know things about.

I'm in what I believe is very low mineralisation and I find with single frequency detectors they do tend to ID deep targets as iron much sooner than Multi-IQ does, the Simplex is particularly bad at this but other single frequency detectors like my Teknetics T2 and At Gold for example are also guilty of doing it before a multi frequency machine will. Gold prospectors are very aware of this as small nuggets do it too and it is very commonplace nugget hunting even with multi-IQ detectors. It's just more common and noticeable for nuggets than coins and jewellery as you're often chasing very tiny nuggets which are far more susceptible to the problem. I couldn't agree more with your post GB.

There have been some good replies on this thread but I think in some cases this last point "who got there before you" has been understated or ignored. In my parks the ML (Simultaneous Multi-Frequency) Equinox in MF mode is a better performer for the deeper (say 4" and greater) coins than any of my single frequency detectors (or the Eqx in single frequency), and it matters. The previous detectorists (most but maybe not all with single frequency detectors) have swept up most of the low hanging fruit. A good single frequency detector in my soils will also pick up a deeper target, but the problem is it typically gives an iron signal. I think eventually the Eqx's Multi-IQ will lose out, too, but there is a range of depths where it still gives reasonably accurate dTID's after the single frequency performers have lost that. It's worth emphasizing that I say 'my parks'. They have moderate mineralization but the effect is noticeable. In clean, dry beach sand or ground with low mineralization the advantage of multifrequency over single frequency is diminished, as others have pointed out. In my moderately (ferromagnetic) mineralized ground it definitely makes a difference.

Late in the year🤣... Heck this cooler weather in the Northern Hemisphere is just prime for detecting. Nevada and Arizona detectorists are getting out in full force for the whole day now. Us California detectorists will start having to go to some lower elevation soon with the 1st snows. The southern Hemisphere detectorists are out detecting most of the year. The 17x13 NF elliptical for the 7000 is out in Australia in limited quantities. This world is crazy and a meteor can end it all at anytime. I want the best coils possible out for my machines now! 🤣

It's late in the year, and so anyone thinking new detectors and coils might as well adjust their thinking into being a "next year" sort of thing. Axiom, Manticore, new coils... we should have them all by spring. Nugget Finder 16" x 10" mono

May 28 1937 Part Three When Roger heard this he was not happy. He told us he understood our concern but needed to move freely. I told him that was not possible now and we had been through all kinds of issues with people in this area and trusted no one. He gave in and said so be it and repeated that his commission would set him up for life. I shook hands with him and told him welcome to our crew. Roger stated that he needed to get into town and make a phone call to a very big broker in San Francisco. He said that this man’s name was Logan Collins and he had big time connections. So John and I rode into town in Roger’s Cadillac. He drove to the jewelry store and told the owner he needed to use his private phone in the back office. John and I went back there with him and listened to the conversation. We told him to hold the receiver out from his ear a bit so we could hear everything being said. Roger told the man he had the chance to broker a deal that was the opportunity of many lifetimes. He explained the situation and Collins wanted to drive out to see the treasure for himself. He said he would bring a deposit of cash if we came to terms. The rest would be handled at another location to be determined later. Roger told him to bring a very large amount of cash. He told him that we had security at our location and that we were not to be trifled with. Collins said he understood. We arranged to meet him at the jewelry store at noon the next day. Then Roger hung up the phone. Roger said he needed a drink and wanted to go to the bar. I told him there was no way we were going in there now and that place was nothing but trouble. I told him we had plenty of whisky at camp if he needed to steady his nerves. With that we got in the Cadillac and headed back. John repeated his warning that if anything went wrong he was a dead man. TO BE CONTINUED ...............