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I made a post in the Deus II section of the forum yesterday about my continuing learning journey with the D2. But it was also about my first experience coin shooting. Here's the link if you're interested. Exploring the D2 Learning Curve, Part Deux I usually never notch because of fear of missing something good and I end up with piles of trash, a sore back, and sometimes a cool find. I've been hearing about a coin shooting progarm call the Silver Slayer by Rattlehead (also NWGA on Youtube) and many folks like @NCtoad, @Jeff McClendon, and others have been making great silver finds in worked out areas. All of the older parks in my area have been hammered since the 1970s so there is little to no silver coins left at this point. Since I had a few hours off last weekend I decided to try coin shooting in one of the old parks I have gone over and over for a few years. I have pulled a few interesting artifacts from this park including a police coat button from the 1890s, a very old brooch, a couple of wheat pennies, but no silver. So I loaded up the Silver Slayer, lowered the second notch to 79, hit the ground running not really expecting to find anything. Saturday I was surprised by some 1960s nickels and dimes (not silver though), 3 wheat pennies, and a 1945 Mercury dime! All I can say is wow, that worked great and I didn't dig half the trash I normally do. I went back on Sunday for a couple of hours to see If I could find any more old coins. The area I hit the day before didn't give up any good signals so I moved over to the nearby old tree line and started popping out signals again. There was a lot more trash in the trees with quite a bit on the surface, and in one spot the was a hord of over 20 toasted zinc pennies just under the surface. If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd say those were probably dumped there by another detectorist. 😱 While I didn't find any more Wheat pennies or silver coins, I did end up with 11 copper Memorial pennies, a carwash token, a small old pewter heart pendant, a silver or silver plated beaded necklace, and a nice silver earring among the modern clad and trash. So thanks to @Rattlehead for making the Silver Slayer program available. It works really well and has opened my mind to learning more about how notching works and aids in unmasking. While I'll still use my opened up Fast and Relic programs for most hunting, the Silver Slayer is permanently installed for coin/jewelry shooting and to check for unmasking. 😎

I've been hunting an old park lately. An old-timer told me where the folks used to have their summer get-togethers, so I decided to hunt the area. Pretty promising so far. All this, plus dozens of old cents. 3 quarters in one hole.

Chuck - I'm a big fan of smaller coils. Many of my old coin and relic sites are loaded with 100+ yr old iron trash and the smaller coils will outperform the stock coils. This 1867-S Seated Half came from a trashy site. It was at an 1860's wooden hotel that burned down, with more nails scattered across the soil than most could imagine. It was the 1st coin I found here at this site. Digging through iron and rusty tin to find this coin was tough. You can still see iron staining from one of the nails that was sitting on top of the coin. I realized how bad the conditions were and so I just kept at it with the small coil and even having to lift the coil a couple inches off the ground to get better target separation. That trick helped recover one of my all time favorites. The pic below is of 1852 $2.50 & the 1st gold coin any of my family ever found. I highly recommend small coils for such sites. The majority of detectorists only use the stock coils and when they get to a really trash site, their lack of knowledge and skill ends up leaving good nonferrous treasures to be found. Smaller coils are the trick for many such sites. If hunting for gold nuggets, a VLF detector has better chance of success at the old nugget patches as much of the remaining gold is small pickers. A smaller coil is ideal for little gold bits and in fact many VLF detectors will get MORE DEPTH on a tiny picker than a stock size coil. If I was to run to Rye Patch right now and my detector is a VLF type, it will have the smallest coil option and that will find me the most pieces of remaining gold. I have to play the odds and that is exactly why I highly recommend all customers who come to my 3 days Field Training to make sure they have and use the small coil on their VLF's. Any gold is better than no gold if you are new to the Au hunt. Pictures are of an old Staff Member and his success at finding smaller pieces of gold while using the famous Gold Bug-2 with the smaller 6" Ellip coil. I'll have to admit and give credit when due, the GB-2 with 6" Ellip in non mineralized shallow ground is the most deadly of any VLF detector I know at finding those tiny bits. EL NINO77 - Yes I agree with you as well. Today's faster processor detectors can do much more with a stock size coil than the older technology machines of years past. That's part of why I enjoy going back to my 1970s/80s/90s sites. Heck even the sites from 10 yrs ago with todays detector speeds can find a few goodies. A few yrs ago I detected a lake and the particular site in the water was where an old wooden pier used to be. It (the pier) has not been there for many yrs. I realized this site would be a tough hunt but with the older detectors I was able to find a few silvers and buffalo nickels. My situation was that most of the good targets were deeper and in the 4" to 8" depth. In all of that was good amount of rusty iron nails, bolts and other trash signals. I like to run my DISC wide open so I can hear the amount of iron and since the older goodies were deeper, I needed the stock coils extra depth. The site is very tough to hunt and most give up really quick-like. I was recently in the area and realized I had not used the Equinox at the site. I figured the extra recovery speed of the newer detector just might pull me a few more old coins or other treasures. So I put the newer technology to use at the site and immediately found a rough condition 1960's Jefferson Nickel, then a 1928 Buffalo Nickel. I methodically kept at it swinging so slow and listening for just a slight change of tone, telling of something non iron. That's when it happened and I dug this beauty of 14K white gold ring with a stunning diamond. This ring sure put a smile on my face. Luckily I didn't have a bugger in my nose. I'm not saying the ring is really old and has been missed all those times. But I do know this particular beach gets hunted quite a bit by a local club. The fact that it was only 5' feet from the bank and in only 3' depth of water, it should have been recovered. But since the amount of iron targets right there from when the old pier was there, they mask so many good targets. Again, most folks walk away and hunt the easier ground. The Equinox has been one of my favorite water detectors for a variety of reasons. I feel the new Manticore, what detectors is mentioning/targeting and how they are advertising, it's going to be even better than the proven Equinox for so many people and different hunting styles. Having the other coils will just help make this detector shine even more. Hopefully Trevor at CoilTek is already working on a smaller coil than what Minelab is offering. My personal choice would be a 6" Ellip. I would also accept a 5" round but an elliptical design can do more things. Again EL NINO77 - I like your/Simon thoughts of 2 coil option when ordering but we have already been informed here in USA, we get it with just the stock coil. Who knows what kind of promotions they might do later down the road. Thanks for contributing.

Jackpot! Old picnic grounds can be great sites. Years ago I was at an huge regional park and a park ranger came up to me while I was detecting, and started talking to me, asking me about the hobby and as he was wrapping up his conversation he asked me if I had my detecting permit (required for this particular park system) and I showed it to him. I think that made him happy, so he told me to come to his office during business hours and he'd give me a copy of the original park map. I did and that turned out to be a bonanza, as many of the sites had been moved/changed/abandoned. After checking out a few of them, we detected on spot that was an old scout/church picnic/camp area and it was loaded with silver. The guy I was hunting with then and I dug over 100 silver coins in a month, it was really unbelievable. Also the silver to copper cent ratio was something like 2:1, so for every two wheat cents we dug you got one silver coin. We also got silver flatware, silver jewelry and one gold ring, and lots of neat old scouting things. This particular site didn't start until around 1940, so no really old silver, I can imagine if it had been 30-40 years older we'd been digging seateds and barbers 🙂

Dave - I hope to get a bunch. Heck, even if they only send me a small partial of my order, that will cover those on my list. My list is not as big as last time and I wonder if it's the Economy? As for the smaller coil. I was told all accessory coils will come later as they are mainly working to get the detectors out 1st. This is pretty standard on new release detectors. Simon - You cheap Mongrel,🤣 trying to get an extra coil out of them. This coming from a guy who has purchased more detectors than 95% of the people I know. Yes it would be great if they did in fact offer it as "Introductory Sale". But you and I know, they could have offered it for $1999 and I think many would purchase it anyway. Seems the $1600 price point is right on with the Deus-II though and that seems to be it's competition. Mitchel - Well most certainly. After all "It's a Minelab Beast".😆

I'm trying my best to share the knowledge as Minelab USA provided it to us. I found out the other day, those of us who enjoy the Equinox 600 and Equinox 800, their waterproof headphones are 100% compatible with the Manticore. Now this is interesting. The wireless headphones are not the ML 80's as is on the Equinox. They are also not the ML 100's as we have on the GPX-6000. Something new for us and probably better than the others. Let's hope. Today (Oct. 18th) we get to see what's Included. I realize this does not answer all questions but at least it gives us an idea that we'll be getting our initial shipments of a simple package similar to the Equinox 800. It will come with detector, an 11" DD coil with cover and wireless headphones with case. Anyone see anything missing that you expected? Again, if you have not put your name on a list, let me know. Just like with many other detectors in the past, I usually order more than most and get them to customers sooner. My 25 year Minelab track record speaks for itself. Thanks, Gerry

To be fair, this is as much a detecting learning curve for me as it is a Deus II learning curve, but as I have been wading through all this, I have been helped immensely by most everyone on this forum who is much more knowledgable and experienced than I am. I can't express my gratitude enough for all the help freely given here. I'd be lost without it. I felt I'd reached a wall or plateau in my learning as many do when learning new things, but recently I made a break through that was directly related to advice given here and insights from another fellow who I is on another forum but I don't know if he is a member here. Many of you probably know him as NWGA on Youtube and Rattlehead on the other forum, and you may be familiar with his Silver Slayer program for the D2 based on Fast. And I should add the following is just my experience in my local soil so be aware and take that into consideration. Now let me first say that I have really come to like the Fast program on the D2 for use in my local park hunting, but I have never really done any cherry picking. I always thought that notching would just make me miss something good. I usually use very low discrimination and no notch and dig everything that sounds good and go into a park and grid like mad until I get worn out. I've also set up a wide open version of the stock Fast program with PWM Audio version of Pitch Tones, Discrim at 6.8, and B-Caps and Silencer at 0, and it has opened up my hearing for all kinds of targets including some really tiny ones. This program and testing a lot of various good and bad targets in air and ground has helped me recognize the nuances of many different target sounds. The only down side is I dig a ton of trash because no matter how good I think I'm getting at recognizing trash a lot of it still fools me. Enter the Silver Slayer... I tried this program a few months ago and was worried about missing targets so I stopped using it. Let's face it, if you notch, you CAN miss good targets. In my recent learning growth, I have begun to notice a pattern to where many types of targets fall on the VDI and audio scale on the D2. This is becoming very helpful in making dig/no dig decisions, but my overall impulse is just to dig. I have a hard time walking past a good sounding target even if I know it is trash (and it usually is). So a few days ago I decided to get outside of my box and try cherry picking one more time just to try something different. My local detecting club members, some of whom have been hunting since the 70s, all say the parks have been detected out for older coins long ago, and I haven't found any evidence to the contrary. I had a few hours to play on Saturday morning so I decided to load up the Silver Slayer program again and go to one of the older parks in town just to see if it could find anything interesting. This park is still very active and hunted by locals regularly. As I stepped onto the grass I noticed right away how quiet it was in the headphones. This park is packed with can slaw, pull tabs, and old iron and trash from the demolished houses that stood there from the 1800s to the 1960s. It wasn't long until the coins started popping up. I ended up with a 1993 quarter with a Zincoln penny fused on top of it, 5 more Zincolns, 4 modern pennies, 1 copper Memorial & 3 Wheat pennies from the 1950s, 6 nickels (3 of them were early 1960s), 5 dimes dating from 2020 back to 1967, and a 1945 silver Mercury dime (my 3rd silver coin found in the wild with the Deus 2!) I must admit, I didn't worry too much about what I might be missing because I was just having too much fun. It's possible I missed something good but I wasn't digging nearly the same amount of trash I normally do so I just didn't care. I was just hunting coins and I hit silver. There is something really special going on with the way the D2 handles notching and I want to learn more about that. It was a freeing experience for me. Of course I won't use the SS program all the time but for the sheer joy of coin hunting, I highly recommend you give it a try if you're into that sort of thing. 😎

Since Silver Slayer is based on the Deus 2 Fast program Since "Silver Slayer" is based on the Deus 2 FMF Fast program with one of its frequencies around 40 kHz, it is just fine for gold jewelry. The idea behind Silver Slayer of using notching to effectively eliminate unwanted targets ranges can be transferred to any target range. In the past with the original Deus, notching was an adventure (often unsuccessful) unless the only targets accepted were in the high conductor range. At least where I hunt in higher iron mineralization, every non-ferrous target would end up in the mid 80s to high 90s depending on its depth (3" or deeper) including gold rings and nickels due to up averaging no matter what frequency was selected or if IDs were normalized or not. Using Deus ll's notch feature and the FMF modes, that up averaging simply doesn't happen until the targets reach the edge of detection. So you can set notches wherever you want and for instance, low and mid conductor targets will maintain their correct tones and target IDs very accurately.

Beach hunt #7 was not a lucky number. Up at 4 AM - out the door by 4:30 to try and hit part of a moderate low tide. Got stuck at an accident scene for ½ hour, so late to the beach. Upon arrival I discovered I forgot to pack the GPX battery and harness. 🙄 So, it’s the Equinox all day long (not my original plan). The ocean was ANGRY. The rouge tides sneak up on you and drench you good. 😄 Poured the water out of my boots when I left. There is not much you can do on this beach without a good low tide but dig all you can and hope for silver or gold. Not going to happen on that day. Also, washed up at the high tide line was what I believe to be a sunfish. ☹️ I guess they can get really big, but this one was about the size of a manhole cover. So better luck next time and hopefully a new beach to explore. On the flip side, I did get another room in the basement to store my machines. The room I keep my finds and other stuff was getting so cluttered with machines and coils, that I could not work on things. This is the best way that I have found to store machines and coils. Hope everyone has a chance to get out detecting somewhere and enjoy the day.

🤔 Could Gerry have been adopted? That kinda stuff runs in a family, and the nut doesn’t fall very far from a tree.

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Try to buy gold coins at a reasonable markup over spot. Most small denominations are not available at all at Kitco. vintage "bullion" coins price sometimes move up as the gold price drops. (due to a shortage I suspect: seller cannot replace.) If you don't hold your gold, you don't own it. If you hold paper you've got zip.

I’ve been using Rattlehead’s silver slayer program a lot recently also. CPT, I also have your concerns about missing good targets (mainly gold) with a lot of notching. However I started looking at this from another perspective. I mostly hunt for silver coins and the silver slayer program is very good for this especially in trashy areas. So my new perspective on this is that once I go through a site looking for silver, I can always go back using different notching or another program more suitable for finding mid and lower conductors. I will mention this: one of the first times I tried the silver slayer program I dug a nice 10k ring that came in at 63 in that nickel window that doesn’t get notched out!

June 2 1937 The chest contained a fortune in gold and silver coins. We couldn’t make out anything on the faded drawings. They were a complete mystery. We brought the truck over near the tunnel entrance and unloaded the coins into our buckets and placed them on the truck with the original chest and put the drawings in the cab. Then we drove back to camp where we had a big discussion on what to do next. Sarge wanted to remove his take from the area. So did Ben. The rest of us were not sure about that. We remembered what had happened to Jed when he took the treasure away to hide it. I told the crew they were free to do as they wished. Sarge and Ben told us they had made their fortune and were leaving the crew. They had money and treasure and were going to head back home and work their farms. The rest of the crew wanted to keep mining. We would need to hide the money and treasure somewhere and soon. Later on in the day Sarge and Ben loaded up Sarge’s truck and headed out. We all shook hands and had a drink of whisky with them before they left. Sarge advised us to get out of this area before our luck ran out. I have to admit that I am giving it some thought. TO BE CONTINUED ................

I think that an 11" coil like... the standard Manticore coil is a good and especially effective compromise between depth and separation.. which is really visible in modern technically advanced detectors with recovery speed settings... .., where the 11" coil... it will really do its job in detection... because it is very effective in detection... .. Of course, if Minelab Manticore will have other additional coils available at the time of its release - that will be another plus...which will increase the sales of this detector even more. As Simon mentioned... for example, a Manticore package with two coils might be a really good idea..

Almost, today they just dont bother with the well behaved ones.

Better than where your detector was completely unstable at the beginning, and where it got unstable a few seconds again after turning your Torus off. But about the same as that point where you first turned the torus off and it started to get chattery but not totally unstable. Too chattery for my liking, but right when it'd just about sound like it wanted to go totally unstable, it'd back off and just stay chattery. I noise cancelled once after starting. Then about 5 or 6 times after it was sitting stable, and the subsequent noise cancels made it worse, not better. I'm hesitant to draw many conclusions though, because this is a spot I've never run this detector before so my frame of reference is slim at best. If I had to take a random guess based off the very slim experience running it though, I'd either say they didn't redesign the main board for this fix, or if they did it was a lot of effort for lackluster results. But, I'm hopeful when I get further away from town and into the goldfields it'll be better. And it didn't go totally unstable setting on the ground here so that was a positive result I'm hoping too. *edit: I should add, there were moments the threshold was actually close to what you hear in your Torus too. Especially when not moving. But as usual, the more input the detector got, the closer it'd seem to get to losing stability. I swear it seems like the cpu can only handle so much and then if too much noise happens at once it just goes downhill from there and has trouble recovering without a reset. That still seems to be the case, even if it's running a bit quieter.

I use one behind my Jeep.

I took mine outside of town for about 20 minutes earlier today. Cell tower about 2 miles away one direction, power lines about 2 miles the other direction, town about 5 miles away. Helicopter flew over once. Still chatters, way more than I'd like, but didn't lose stability entirely like it often does. Walked around with it for 10 mins, then left it sitting on the ground for 10 mins. Didn't have headphone with me to compare with. Still detects my S22 when off, against the right side of the case. Basically where that reddish wire is at in the photo that goes back towards the speaker. Anyways, was usable here, even if quite chattery, but this isn't where I detect for gold and location seems to make a big difference. Gonna be a bit till I can get to the Goldfields still.

At least I know what my wife will be looking at down the road. What a handsome guy he is (I am).

I thought it was still that way today? Interesting reads.

What's the story? Pulse 8X Metal Detector (jwfishers.com)

Nah, Runs in the family of gold nuts, which I suspect most of us are, not determined by culture, country, color, religion, politics etc, just by a crazy addiction of chasing that heavy stuff 🤪

Yep, send it off! No point having a faulty machine when you don't have to.

Looks like you've found a remedy product that's better than snake oil! Depending upon how it got there (more on that in a bit), it might provide some evidence of the age of the site. In my area parks are often built on top of or adjacent to old homesteads. When those buildings are razed, sometimes the contents get scattered and left for... us detectorists. So although the park may or may not be from the beginning of the 20th Century or earlier, what preceded it may well be. I'd say you've got a good hunting spot that either others haven't searched hard (because of the trash) or just ignored because that area didn't seem to be much used by park visitors. I've experienced both. I assume that 'silver slayer' program is really for any high conductor, and maybe optimized for the sizes of (high Ag content) silver coins and jewelry. Thus clad and 95% copper pennies are likely finds as well as silver plated copper (junk jewelry and inexpensive, utilitarian flatware popular before stainless steel replacements took over). USA 5 cent coins ('nickels'), though, not so much.

Wow! That is an impressive amount of trash and shows how thorough a hunter you are.

Most are covering which detector. So I'll go with accessories. An old shovel will work to start , yard sales best source unless you already have one. A plastic trowel ~ $5 , an old screwdriver ,,,or both at a yard sale again. You probably already have ear buds or headphones ? A cheap Chinese knock off pin pointer can get you something basic for ~ $25. Upgrade to a Garrett Carrot later... I found a little camera bag for finds at Goodwill /etc. for $2 ! Lots of other bags like that there usually under $5 . Small backpacks $5 for the really good ones ! A plastic bag tied to your belt would work if you're running out of budget$ OH yeah , if you're like a lot of us you can get some "Glasses of Shame" 3.25 readers at a Dollar store for those hard to see dates on coins LOL😉 You already found your best accessory for free, this forum !!!!!!! Ask those questions as the pop up.

OK we will try to entice you "YANKS and any one else that want to spend their $ " out here with a new travel advertisement with our cute Kangaroo from tomorrow onwards. 🤑

For what my opinion is worth I’d always go for a somewhat smaller coil than what most detector companies offer on their new detector. I’m not saying the norm 11” coil don’t have its place but all my detecting area is not all beach front property. I’m sure others and Minelab know most people will want that smaller coil so that’s a automatic sell for them. I say if was to do some beach hunting I’d probably go with a larger coil than the 11” one. Some people out there may be saying I’ll just wait until Minelab is offering that smaller coil so many of us are wanting. I know myself I have the Nox 800 with both small coils . I’m more than happy with that great detector and because of that I can sit back to let Manticore catch up. The catch up is for the Manticore small coils before I buy. I’m sure that day will come! Chuck

Yeah somewhere in the above was thanks! 🤣 I'm going to try it. Here, a silver quest is a skunk day for the most part, so I just dig everything in the 90s 😀 Coke cans, steel, you name it.

Hey Guys, Just a FYI for you. Keith at Detector Center called and official said they are doing the "speaker mod." You will need to contact Detector Center and have a ticket created so they know it's coming to them. Give them a call, let them know and then ship it to them. Hope this helps, Rob

Pictures are hard to identify from and I am no meteorite expert but it looks like a rhyolite crystal tuff or flow. Rhyolite is the volcanic (extrusive) equivalent of granite (igneous). It can vary in color. The phenocrysts (crystals) look like feldspars and quartz. Some appear to be broken, that implies erupted. I don’t see fiamme which are flattened pumice that look like a wispy or flame like structure(s). The real way to tell is if the groundmass is crystalline, it will be very small or aphanatic, meaning no small crystals. Groundmass with small crystals means near surface cooling. No crystals means erupted.

Not quite true. Indigenous women didnt get to vote until 1962. New Zealand only allowed vote but not standing for office. Finland allowed all women to vote and stand for office 1906.

If you have an Equinox 800 I encourage you to test it on a medium or large gold chain using the Gold 2 mode. Yes, gold chains are hard to find but of my 6 detectors the Nox in Gold 2 (and 6" coil) is the only one that will find gold chains at 4-5 inches deep. Unfortunately, Gold 2 doesn't work in the wet salt beach sand so my gold chains have been found in fresh water.

17. Bigger Jackrabbits than Texas but Australia call’s them Kangaroos. Chuck

Many thanks for reading the story. I think Jed got careless. He drank way too much whisky.

Hi folks! Long time lurker, first time member here. I live down in the hills of south central Indiana and get to enjoy easy access to some of the better-known gold prospecting spots in the state. I've also started getting into the metal detecting hobby recently, and am really enjoying taking my Equinox 800 out to the local schools and parks, and to whatever private permissions I'm able to obtain. Can't say I'm an expert by any means, but I've booked a few pickers on the gold prospecting front and a little bit of silver on the detecting side. Looking forward to reading and learning from all the experienced posters here!

The Legend is a "Legend" = It's a historical detector. Old school my friend and irrelevant. The Manticore is a BEAST and it needs no time. It can be late and or early to wherever it wants to hunt.🤣 All pun aside you do bring up a good point. But then again we'd have to learn how to set it. I get enough calls as it is trying to figure out how to do a Factory Reset.

"I assume that 'silver slayer' program is really for any high conductor, and maybe optimized for the sizes of (high Ag content) silver coins and jewelry." I was wondering the same and thinking that most gold jewelry would not be detected?

#9 @vanursepaul this is totally you right now!🤣

That sure is one sweet, golden goodie! Congratulations, and all the best, Lanny

Dwayne (Rattlehead) is the real deal. He is a member here too by the way. The Silver Slayer can be set up as a USA clad coin slayer too or a gold ring/silver coin slayer or even a relic slayer for times when the aluminum or iron trash is just overwhelming. I use it as a last resort, raise the Pitch tones pitch as high as I can stand and lower the iron audio volume to 1 or 2……….great starting point for an emergency “I just can’t stand the noise anymore” program. I used it yesterday before my ankle surgery at an old home site and came out with similar finds to CPT……including a Mercury that I wasn’t expecting and some 1950s nickels and wheats. I had gridded the same site with Deus 1 and the Equinox so I am impressed. Nothing deeper than 6”……in moderate enough mineralization to alter Deus 1 target IDs pretty severely so notching it in a similar way in the past would have been a joke at this site. Not trying to hijack this topic by any means, it is great information so far. Here are some easy links for people that haven't seen some of Rattlehead's posts Rattlehead's Silver Slayer program Some more of Rattlehead's Deus 2 content from this site.

Wow Fogrider, you have some great places to hunt. 👍 Really glad for you!

Those are some really nice coins.

I just use a bigger backpack so that everything fits inside.

No, pyrite is brassy gold color iron sulphide, generally non-conductive when pure. Arsenopyrite is silver gray color iron arsenic sulphide, highly conductive. Gold often occurs in quartz, but quartz is one of the most common minerals on earth, and nearly all of it has no gold in it. Gold in steams is often found with magnetite (black sands) but magnetite is extremely common, and finding black sands does not mean there is any gold around. Gold after occurs with various iron minerals like pyrite and arsenopyrite, that stain quartz to a rusty red color. But again, these are very common minerals, and rusty red quartz does not automatically mean gold is around. You have to know the particulars of any given area to be able to draw reliable conclusions. Usually, these are favorable indicators, but nothing more.

Beach hunt #6 was a follow up hunt at the same beach. Started off using the GPX on the upper beach and soon found an area that I knew would trouble everyone’s machines (including mine). It’s right up against a rebar reinforced concrete wall. You can’t get within 2 feet of it without the iron in the wall sounding off. But there are ways to go around that if you are willing to put up with excessive noise. I wanted to see if I could squeak out low conductors. It worked and I found a huge number of nickels, including 2 Buffalo, but no gold. As the tides got lower, I wanted to switch machines and test the Equinox out in that same patch that was producing silver and gold for everyone. It is very hard digging with the packed sand and rocks, and I soon gave up using a scoop, since it would barely go 1” into the sand. Went back to the car and got my trusty shovel and abandoned the idea of hunting deeper into the waves. So, I followed the tide down as the others arrived (I love being first) 😊 One guy got a 14k earring, but it took me a long time before I struck gold. Finally, after struggling with a collapsing hole filling with water, I got it out. A nice 10K man’s initial ring. I was happy to join the crew in finding a gold ring in that area. After a while, a Mercury dime showed up along with more silver jewelry. Always nice to have a good hunt and to get some exercise at the same time! Looking forward to the next hunt already. Who says this hobby is addictive? 😄

As you and Rvpopeye mention above the long arm of Karma really is involved in the detecting game.. When I returned the lady's ring by post I included my address on the back of the envelope.. Since I didn't want any reward she send me five 'scatchy games' where you scratch of various boxes on a card to reveal a price.. I've never played these games before as I think they're a waste of hard earned cash but it turns out I've won $200.. In this case Karma wasn't a bitch.. 😁

Excellent Post! Very enlightening. I now know why Deep HC behaves differently than the other modes, it's a combo of the different lower endpoint and the waveform combined with whatever signal processing algorithm differences XP implements in the algorithm secret sauce for that program. Besides that, XP also sprinkles clues into their program descriptions that throw out seemingly descriptive but still vague (or unexplained terms) like "Conductive Soil subtraction" (Prg 1 and 10 - 12), "Frequency addition" (Prg 2 -6, & 8), and "Frequency Subtraction" (Prg 9). These make me wonder what is really going on under the hood when you compare programs on paper. For example, the only apparent difference between General (P1) and Sensitive (P2) [not accounting for the slight difference in user settings (Disc 7 vs. Disc 6.8, No Notch in P1 vs. a programmed Notch 1 in P2, and Audio Response 4 vs. 5) is "Conductive soil subtraction" vs. "Frequency Addition". If set up identically, would they behave differently on some specific target? Who knows. I'm not one to meticulously test any and all possibilities because frankly it bores me to death both doing it and watching/reading about it and I really just want to hit the sites to detect when I can. I will figure out a way to delve into this, somehow, and try to answer my own rhetorical question. Deep HC and Dive still suck the juice out the coil more than any of the other programs so imagine what the coil power consumption would be if they weren't trying to manage it with a multi-level waveform.