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I was a bit worried after my last hunt that the field was planted with winter wheat, so I spent the morning checking out some of my other places. Looked like they were down with wheat, so I came back to the place I have been getting a lot of great stuff lately, but first I stopped by the landowner's house and gave him this: It's a 3x5 Riker case with a wide array of finds from his fields, stuff I've got over the last couple of years. I gave him a list of what everything was and where I found it. There's a bit of everything in that box, from a half/half Reale to a Tombac button. I even gave him one of the rare Virginia buttons I've found. The center object is a dog tag with his name on it and the name of a dog he had long ago. Kinda bittersweet. He couldn't have been more thrilled, and told me the current "crop" is just field cover grass. He said I was welcome to dig the hell out of it. 🥳 Went out to the field and the next 4 hours were pretty good. It was cold and windy today but sunny enough to stay warm. I don't think it got over 50. No coins today, here's the random stuff: Found that drawer pull way out in the middle of nowhere🤔, looks like a lock box escutcheon and a couple small fancy bits. Got one small bit of flatware. I was in one area where I got a couple of Tombacs, and leaving I dug a Tombac cufflink. The large convex one was over 10" down, the upside down one is concave. At first I thought the cuff button was a rivet but it occurred to me that they wouldn't make them out of Tombac. 😀 Also got some newer buttons, two flats and one ball with the back inside it. It's the third one I've found in this area, the other two don't have backs and one is much bigger. I also dug another spectacle buckle in 3 pieces, sadly not all of it: It was all in the same place. Really old. My favorite find of the day was this tiny two piece Navy button, it has backmarks but I can't read them. Also can't find it's age or use, but I'm thinking later 1800s Only a handful of trash again, the Deus 2 program I'm using is pretty accurate. I knew what the aluminum was, just dug it to get rid of it. Buck balls too, but some of the buttons are in the high 50s to low 60s, so you have to dig them all. The buckshot sounds a bit different and disappears after you dig it. Always keep your landowners happy!

I understand your thought process. Save time digging all that junk, and there is plenty of it !!! That really pisses me off, why people use the beach for a garbage can. Pull tabs to diapers. They are just damn lazy I guess. This in mind, I am a water hunter. My notch program is learning to stack the odds in my favor, on how water classifies the targets for me. I am a water hunter 90 percent of the time. My dirt is mostly spent on Colonial sites. This picture is all a years worth of water hunts. My three main methods of attack are, notch the iron, dig everything else and location, location, location. Gold can be found from 28 to 85 in this picture. Anything in this picture not jewelry was a stroke of luck and again use of all three methods above. Get in the water chest deep if you want to cut down on the trash and once you hit gold, slow down to a crawl. Work that area hard and use your feet to move some gravel and gain some depth. Gold tends to congregate close together in spots, at least that’s my finding. Good luck everybody.

Metal detectorist discovers medieval wedding ring worth an estimated $47,000 "Every metal detectorist dreams of unearthing something valuable. For one man the English countryside yielded an incredible find when he stumbled upon a medieval diamond wedding ring in "almost perfect condition" near Thorncombe, in the South West of the country. Now the item is expected to fetch between £30,000 and £40,000 ($35,500 and $47,300) when it goes on auction later this month." Story Here Auction Site Inscription in Medieval French reading: ‘ieo vos * tien * foi * tenes * le moy’ translating ‘As I hold your faith, hold mine’ Photo credit: Noonans

I am attaching a photo of some of my gold items and many other commonly found USA targets and their corresponding target IDs with them being held about 2" from the Deus 2 9" FMF coil using Program 1 General. Studying that photo for the commonly encountered trash along with US nickels and zinc pennies and using the information you already have may help you with a strategy. Whatever that is, it won't be as simple and easy as just running up Deus 2's discrimination to 86 and digging everything that gives a high tone which is an easy way to just dig US clad dimes and quarter along with any silver jewelry and silver coins that might be in the area. I have been known to cherry pick when I just don't want to dig a lot of trash and I only want to concentrate on coins and any gold or silver rings/coins that I know can overlap those modern clad coin numbers. However, there are gold rings and jewelry all over the place in that photo. Aluminum and steel alloy targets are all over the place too and I didn't include canslaw and foil since their target IDs are totally random depending on size. You also need to take into account the ground your are hunting. If it is moderately to high mineralized or a saltwater beach, there may be some up averaging on deeper targets. When one is just hunting for silver, that is not a big deal. However, when low and mid conductors get up averaged out of the low or mid conductor range due to mineralization............notching can become not such a good idea. So, know your ground and its tendencies. As you noted, women's small gold engagement and promise rings do seem to clump up in the 40 to 50 target ID zone. However, the big men's class rings that I have found are normally in the 65 to 75 target ID area where there are lots of pull tabs and then there is that big 18 k honker right next to the zinc penny target ID. Sometimes I will hunt an area several times for gold rings and I will split things up. So for example, you could notch out everything including zinc pennies and above so 86 to 99, and also notch out 65 to 72 for most of the common pull tabs and then run your iron disc up to 39. That way you would only accept target IDs from 40 to 64, and 73 to 85 and just dig everything in those two accepted ranges. Come back another day and just dig the 65 to 73 range if you are feeling lucky and don't mind a million pull tabs. I would use any of the first four higher frequency weighted programs Gen, Fast, Sensitive or Sensitive Full tones for gold and low/mid conductors. To make those accepted target IDs really stand out I use Pitch tones so for instance in that first example I would get soft iron tones for the targets encountered with target IDs from -6.4 to 39, strong single tone higher modulated audio for the 40 to 64 and 73 to 85 target IDs and silence for the other notched out target IDs. You could use 3 tone too all the way up to full tones or whatever you want that matches your hearing and style and adjust the tones to the pitches you like.

Now I have your attention! We have the silver slayer program (which I think is outstanding) but other than dig it all we have nothing for the gold ring. I know that gold hits on a much wider range than silver does but certainly the brainpower located here at DP could surely increase the odds. My point is how do we use the all the awesome functionality of the D2 to come up with a serviceable program that will increase the chances of finding gold rings? Are there common enough TID's that are junk that could be eliminated (I know there is always some risk you'll miss something when you notch) to give a person an all around better chance at finding gold rings? Every woman's gold ring I've found so far has been in the 40's. I've found about 11 so far and every one has been in the 40's with the most common TID being 44. Most are 14k. I've found 3 men's gold rings. One a 72, one an 82 and one a 68. I've recovered about a 1000 pop tops nearly all at 65. I've actually grown to hate that number. 75 has sucked too as has 64 and for me 86 has always been a zincoln although I know they come in at that TID on occasion. If you were to build a program off one of the existing programs like what we have with the silver slayer what would it be and why? I'm an end user kind of guy so putting something together like this is not my forte. I'd have you throwing your D2 in the river if I put something together. I'm just curious if anyone else is thinking along these lines and if so how would you address it? Is it all about location or is there a way that you could increase your % by doing something with the D2 programming? I look forward to seeing what you all come up with. Also remember that just because it hasn't been figured out yet doesn't mean it can't be now or improved upon. I'm an optimist so I hope to see the same in your responses. Dave

I guess this theory about light PI's is being put to the test with the Axiom being even lighter, we'll soon see if its a quality problem or they pushed the weight limits too far on the GPX if the Axiom suffers similar problems. The pleasing thing about this GPX fix is every single person who's had it done seems happy enough they did it, no regrets so far at all. I'm quite happy with mine now, I fixed the shaft myself with GotAU's o-ring fix which cost me under a dollar to resolve, so life is good with my GPX now and I'm happy to see plenty of others are also finding their GPX is also the detector they were hoping it would be after getting the audio fix done.

From the things I've read and TV show (Expedition Unknown with Josh Gates) interview and written interviews, Fenn was consistent from day 1. He gave the reasons he hid the treasure, what it contained, and refused to tell anyone where it was, not even his family. When some people took the voluntary risk of going to dangerous places and then died, and their families played results ("if it weren't for Fenn he'd be alive...") BS, and then even law enforcement requested he figure a way to end the quest, he refused. When reminded he was old and may die before it was found and that he should tell someone he refused. Fenn spent a life of adventure, some in the outdoors, with a profession of finding, collecting, buying and selling antiques and collectibles. He had a brush with death (cancer) which apparently gave him not only a reminder of the zest for life but also to share it with others by providing them with an incentive to get outdoors and enjoy more than just within four walls. Did he seek/enjoy fame? Probably. Should we burn him (in effigy) at the stake for that? The conspiracy theorists are calling him a liar and a cheater, simple as that. I can speculate on their motivation but there are probably many reasons, and I don't really give a rat's a__ since they are typically the kind of people who only listen to someone who goes along with their fabricated ideas and any evidence (what many call 'facts') against their theories will just be labeled more lies and fakes.

I got my power/speaker unit back from the Minelab USA Repair today. It made it safely in a medium USPS Priority Flat Rate box and it was insured (don't know how much). I got it all back together and attached the 14"DD coil and tested it in my house (WHAT!!!!) and in my backyard. I tested it using the 14" DD on normal and difficult using both the EMI Cancel setting and the Conductive Ground setting. Sensitivity was equal to the before the upgrade performance judging from my notes on the testing that I had done previously on air tests and in the ground tests using the exact same targets. With headphones, everything was normal and fairly quiet with sensitivity on level 3 or 4. I didn't go any higher due to EMI from over a million people in my area. Same goes for testing my Mono coils.....not happening where I live. With the speaker on and just setting my GPX 6000 with 14" DD on the ground, it never got out of control even in this very EMI rich environment. When it got a little squirrelly a quick noise cancel brought it back to being useable. I let it sit on the ground for about 15 minutes and only noise cancelled three times. Previously, I would have been noise cancelling at least every minute while hoping my neighbors weren't calling the police for my disturbing the peace.......

I am inserting this video here just for Bob so he can see and hear how the Legend does on sub .25 gram and smaller gold nuggets and micro jewelry. No agenda here. I love both detectors in this short video and use them regularly so again, this is just for Bob (or anyone else that is wondering) to get an idea of what the Legend can do. Here is a link to a short, 4 minute, really bad video I made back in early September using the Legend and Deus 2. Plenty of road noise, EMI and moderately mineralized ground. So at least for me, I don't "think" or "it seems" that the Legend is strong on small gold nuggets and micro jewelry. I know for a fact it is.

I've been working a small private park and cleaning out all the nickels, dimes and quarters in the pursuit of silver as the park is old and should hold silver but so far only a bunch of wheats and a few Buff's. I started working it in park and then I switched to silver slayer. I've pulled probably 300 plus coins out of it since I started. I'm the only one who has detected it as it sits on private property and serves the ranch employees. I'm going to spend one more 3 hour period clearing out all high conductors and nickels and then I'd like to set up a program to use on it for gold rings. There is a ton of trash in the park as it used to be a weekend BBQ get drunk and pull tabs kind of place based on the amount of crap I've pulled out using Park. I'm going to use what Jeff has suggested and create two programs and then go with a grid pattern using cones. I have the time to do this because I'm retired. The park is less than an acre so we shall see what results I can get. The park has that kind of ring feel. I'll document it as best I can and see if I can take everyone along with me.

Real.

Frites in a bun with a piece of meat and some sauce. Over here they call it a “Mitrailette” aka machinegun. The manticore November thread, where people discuss worldwide culinary delights. I agree this new minelab detector release is something out of the ordinary 😂

Yeah, Minelab have not produced a perfect detector......who has? I was one of the first to complain about the GPX 6000 and its hyper susceptibly to EMI. For me, susceptibly to EMI and extreme sensitivity go hand in hand especially when we are talking about PIs and high gain simultaneous multi frequency detectors like the GPX 6000 and the Equinox. So I will just continue to deal with it and hope for a smaller GPX 6000 DD coil in the future. Also, Minelab have made a real effort to produce lighter weight VLFs and PIs recently. With lighter weight comes more plastic and more cheaper built (in appearance) detector components like flimsy coils, coil ears and shafts.....part of the territory. Do I think Minelab's mid to upper end detectors are overpriced...sure. But they work. So, enough of the bashing here. I too hope that Garrett and Nokta's soon to be released PIs give Minelab some good competition. Minelab USA have always fixed whatever was wrong with my recent Minelab purchases and done so in a very professional and timely manner.

I called it 3 months ago. I said it won't be out till next year. No where near their end of November time frame. The reason ? The track records of these propagandist clowns. And it's not defined strictly by ML. Maybe someday these wokesters will awaken and go old school. Have real , known , seasoned , confirmed hardcore hunters performing unbiased testing. Having the product finished AND ready for release. Only then , splash your marketing campaign and taking orders for maybe 2-3 weeks. Directly into consumers hands immediately afterwords. A surefire way to backup your talk and gain customer trust.

I think at this point if you haven't bought a Deus 2, you might as well wait for the M-core and see what it's doing after the BS dies down. There are a few of us die-hards learning this detector, in my case to justify my investment, and it does great in my non-mineralized "paradise" as would any mid range machine. I don't think I would have missed any of this stuff with my Equinox. 😀

I know the tin backed ones are 1830-1850's I would assume yours is from the same time period.

I haven't been keeping up since the ridiculous lawsuit was filed, but here's a fairly recent article which gives more details. But I have to quote something there because it should tickle the funnybone of everyone on this site (even the conspiracy theorists): In November 2020, five months after the chest was found, MeatEater podcast guest and journalist Benjamin Wallace published an article in New York Magazine that followed a group of the treasure’s most feverish hunters. They too were certain the chest was hidden in Yellowstone National Park and even employed a dog that could sniff precious metals buried up to 40 feet underground. ... Once they searched that location and had a positive hit from their treasure-hunting dog, they determined they found where the chest used to sit. 🤣

Is this for real? I understand how a dog could find certain mineral deposits by their scent, that’s pretty obvious even by our noses, particularly when it rains in the desert, but to use dogs to find precious metal deposits? Has anyone successfully done it or seen it being practiced in places such as Arizona mentioned in the article? https://www.mining-technology.com/analysis/featureore-sniffing-dogs-for-mine-location/ -especially laughed at the part saying that you can’t use a Chihuahua to do these types of searches because they’d be eaten by rats! 😂

First, its a Deus 2 not a Deus…….really big difference. The 0.1 gram 10 K earring back was buried at roughly 1.5 inches. The 0.15 gram small nugget was buried at roughly 2.5 inches. The 0.25 gram nugget was buried at roughly 3.5”. I dug the holes, measured them and then filled them in on top of the targets. Disturbed dirt or undisturbed dirt matters some. Iron mineralization levels matters a lot more. There was enough iron mineralization at the test site to completely alter the actual target IDs on the Legend and basically made it very hard for Deus 2 to give an ID. No, this was not a comparison of the Legend against Deus 2. The Legend is what I expect from a good, functioning simultaneous multi frequency VLF that is designed to do well on low conductors like small gold. Both detectors have designated gold prospecting modes that need only a few tweaks to tune them for the site being hunted. Basically the default settings are very good on both detectors in theory. The entire reason for making this video was to publicly once again let XP know that Deus 2 has real problems as a small gold nugget detector even though XP included a gold prospecting mode on Deus 2.

They've got us on the hook now and taken our focus away from buying other brands, they can slowly reel us in without us escaping. They'll take as long as they want at this point, they've achieved what they wanted to, mass marketing, hype generated, people that can't stop trying to discuss a product that doesn't yet exist, a Manticore.... a mythical creature and that's what it is, a myth. It doesn't exist! Christmas is looking increasingly unlikely, February for the first few flown to dealers on an airline followed by shipments via ocean container in March/April is more realistic I think. If they make it by December it will be a very limited release of detectors via airline that supplies dealers a few each just to say they got there in time for their anticipated release date, I just hope I'm one of the lucky few. They've taken a different approach with the Manticore over the Nox, it was more of a high volume lower margin detector, they wanted to sell bucket loads of them. The Manticore they're taking the CTX and their Gold detector approach, lower volume by being so high priced with a much higher margin. The question is does this mean we are going to get the benefits of paying this extra cost? Here a Nox is around $1200, the Manticore $3000, am I going to get a $1800 better detector? Getting too excited about a new product can also set you up for disappointment, when it does arrive and it is similar to your Nox with a nice 2D Target Trace screen but then you find out you preferred the Target trace on your 10 year old CTX you might be a bit disappointed. You've already fixed the build quality of your Nox by replacing shafts and arm cuffs and whatever else so you're not all that amazed by the better Manticore build quality. You now find you're stuck using an 11" coil for the next 12 months as they haven't released the accessory coils yet so you've had to go back to using your Nox anyway as you preferred using the little coil for example as you used your Nox for gold nuggets or high trash hunting. This list goes on and on and on but it's just an example of why I'm very happy the Manticore is coming, I want one badly and hope to be one of the first in the country to get one but I'm keeping my excitement under control and down to earth. Hopefully they can get it out for Christmas, I have plans for mine at that time.

Kudos to Forest Fenn, the guy seems to get almost no credit for doing something pretty cool but I think it was a great idea and wish I woulda taken it more seriously when it was still running. I'm going to search for the "blaze" next summer after the snow melts if I'm out in the area I think it might have been anyways. Just out of nothing but idle curiosity now, even if the treasure is gone. I'll post a picture here if I find it. 😄

Thanks for some confirmation about my suspicions the symbol on this locket represents a foreign country or Islam. This find is definitely another example of how you just don't ever know what will come out of the ground when detecting. That's what keeps it fun and interesting for us detectorists.

Thanks Cap'n. Don't know if I ever mentioned it but that is a colloquialism here. 😀 Not only is it all farms, it's also a big place for watermen, if you don't have a boat here your juju is weak. "Well, Cap'n I can tell ya" is a common phrase. This place is loaded with stuff, but it's huge. Random great finds all over the place (not many coins), I've found one KG copper, a bunch of IHPs, wheats, a couple V nickels, and 7 silvers, two were Spanish. Chase got a 1650 half reale cob there. Over 1,000 acres of land to search. It's been hit but only in the obvious places. We're hoping for gold at some point. Mostly buttons and buckles! My favorite. I wanted to show a great way to thank your "permissions", for me it's not hard to part with stuff I find, it belongs to them anyway. 😀 The 3x5 is easy to display, and doesn't hold much 😏

The 3 notches is a limiter and I don't know if it's something they can open up in a software revision. The nox was great but as you say the clumping together of targets at the 12-15 target area just killed the flow. I like talking about things like this rather than low latency headphones thats for sure. Hopefully others will chime in their ideas as well. Thanks for your well thought out posts.

I'm not familiar with their history, but I will say this, I have had more problems with their machines than any other brand by far, but I've also had more success with their machines than any other brand by far. They have quality problems without a doubt, they're certainly not premium machines when it comes to quality, but performance wise they're really up there with if not the best in every category. This thread isn't intended to be a Minelab bashing thread, yes they get criticism for their flaws, every manufacturer does, no one gets a free pass. Minelab came good on the 6000, they have fixed every known fault with it so far except the twisting shaft which really is the most simple of problems and the least expensive one for them to offer a fix for, they have for previous shaft issue detectors like the Equinox. Their warranty is always fantastic, I would say it's first class from my experience and I've certainly had a lot of experience with their warranty with almost every single product I've bought from them needing it, that to me is disappointing and I hope the situation improves, a lot of their focus seems to be on performance, and they even say that in their slogan, Performance is everything, well I hate to disagree as I certainly love performance, but quality also matters especially with the high prices Minelab ask for their detectors, we all know a GPX 6000 costs little more to make than an Equinox, it has a huge profit margin, I don't buy that crap about oh but look at all the money they spend on R&D, their profit margins suggest otherwise and they can certainly spend a bit more on R&D to ensure their detectors are more robust and less prone to issues. Perhaps in the future a focus on quality is worth considering, it appears this has been the case with the Manticore after even being ridiculed by the competitors about terrible build quality.

It looks to be simular to the ctx...vertical (y axis) is ferrous and non ferrous...high and low stuff is in the ferrous ranges..if your in the mid zones your looking like non ferrous. The horizontal (x axis) is going to be the conductivity line....stuff on the left side less conductive...stuff on the right side more conductive. Small piece of aluminum on the left side half dollar on the right side... At least that’s how I’m seeing it in the videos. When I hunt with the ctx I’m always looking at the screen. When using combined mode in ferrous coin bottle caps will be at the top of the screen while most nails and larger iron will be at the bottom of the screen...good stuff in the middle...I usually toggle back and forth from the disk screen to wide open as you loose some power when in the disk screen. Findmall was a great resource for learning the CTX. You could down load others programs that were already proven. Strick

I collect stakes 😄 Not really but I guess I should start. My income level dropped to zinc status. 🙄 This won't help the pulse hunting since the areas I did were the slopes which are very deep with sand. Nowhere near the clay layer. I usually leave the pulse in areas where the clay layer is about 15" deep or less. That is where the pulse shines best for me. Who knows where I'm going next week 🤔

Exactly what I did Jeff once my Gpx6 was returned then inside the house with the 14DD which produced the same air test results. Then later out in the G/field, with the 11 mono and using the speaker, it appeared to me to now operate the same as when I connected up the wi-fi headphones.

It's brass, still has the shank.

So, I had a few minutes today to mess around with a no nonsense Deus 1/ORX/ Deus 2 stand idea since I can almost walk and we have 6" of snow on the ground. I wanted to try something that would in no way alter my Deus 2's arm cuff/built in stand in case I decide to move on from Deus 2 in the future (doubtful since I really like it but I never know......). I cut a 3" PVC pipe section that was also 3" wide in half and continued to trim it until it sat flat on a flat surface while fitting snug underneath the rounded area under the arm cuff's legs. The two notches on the bottom of my 9" round FMF coil were also sitting flat and stable with the coil itself perpendicular to the flat surface. The area underneath the hand grip with the two screws that is usually touching the ground poorly was just barely touching. That size pipe sat flat underneath the arm cuff very nicely when I trimmed the PVC pipe's "feet" at a shallow angle. I taped it to the arm cuff's legs with strong black tape and then used two sturdy zip ties to secure it nice and tight. This looks ugly but it is very stable on a flat surface and PVC is definitely stronger than the plastic used in 3D printers. I will get to try it out for real soon hopefully. I doubt this will work using Deus 1 or the ORX and the HF elliptical coil. I only have the Deus 2 9" coil so it may need adjusting for an 11" I usually have my lower shaft between setting 1 and 2. This worked with the shaft all the way to setting 3. Shortening the shaft to "dive" mode...........the arm cuff is a couple of inches off the ground so definitely not for wet work.

June 16 1937 Part One This morning after breakfast we loaded up the sedan. We decided to keep our Thompsons in the car with us in case we were jumped getting out of here. Sarge also had his BAR and a box of grenades in the trunk. We were also wearing our 45’s. I drove and John rode beside me with Sarge and Dan in the back. Heavily armed and heading into dangerous territory is all I could think of. It seems like ever since the shaman spoke to us I have not cared much about danger and have no fear of dying. We will take turns driving until we get to the ranch where we will leave the car and go secretly into Mexico on horseback. All of us can ride fairly well. The morning air was cool and the Ford sedan’s engine purred as we turned onto the main highway from the old road that led to our mine. We all talked about the plan and went over what Brooks had told us about the gang. He said there were about fifteen members and they came in and out of Mexico on a secret trail through the mountains. Their camp was very close to the border. He said they were fairly well armed but we would have them easily outgunned. According to Brooks the gang was planning a raid on our camp that would be taking place in a week. They will be surprised when the tables are turned on them. I put my hand on my 45 as I drove. It made me feel invincible. TO BE CONTINUED ................

Belgium,... the land that invented French Fries and where Manticores have been seen roaming in the wild 🙂 Look at it this way,... the sales guys from Minelab are foaming at the mouth to get this thing out the door. Only to be smacked in the face by that R&D geek with the taped up glasses who has found yet another BUG. Talk about a near death experience,... I wouldn’t want to be in geeks shoes wright now!! Just look at the facts and the timeline. D-Day is nearly upon us,... and then we get to wait till it takes on full charge.

Beach hunt #12 was a fun hunt with the Equinox 800. I really wasn’t in the mood to lug around the GPX, 🙄 so I opted to get reacquainted with the Nox. It was basically going to be a clad hunt with hopes of some silver or gold jewelry, but clad is all I got. 😌 Things are changing since the weather is getting colder and the hours of daylight diminish. I’m 2 hours away, so the time change hurts me more that the locals, which can get there at sunrise. All in all, it was a pleasure to swing that lightweight machine. Next week it will be back to the pulse machine for some deep iron. 😄

Can't beat that around here 😄 I'll just go back to admiring my crusty zinc cents now 😟

I think I am ready to say that the fix for my 6000 is wonderful! It is much more stable now. It just settles down and hunts! Here is a couple hours of work today. I will get a better picture when I get it cleaned up. 10.01 grams! 😃

That design is going to be copied, what a beautiful ring and inscription.

Thanks for sharing this story as it just blows my mind away to even think that it would be possible to find such a thing with a metal detector. One of these days I have to get some work in that part of the world just to be able to say I gave it a try.

Very nice of you to make the arrangement of finds for your friend as it shows what type of person you are. Glad to see the finds today and I know that there will be many more for you to find. It's a shame you can't swing both the NOX and Deus 2 at the same time so you don't miss anything really great. I guess that's the nice part of being able to go back over the area with another detector and out of the house. Good luck on your next hunt and stay safe.

Nice assortment of History for today. You should move those two parasol slides from the trash pile to the keepers! Thanks for posting.

Read this about Manticores: "Manticores wander and fly around...... roaring occasionally. Manticores will notice the player from a 12 or 16 block radius, and will sprint or fly towards the target to attack." Watch out Deus II swingers.

Nice bunch of stuff. Love the navy button, is it tin backed or brass?

Not so fast, John. "Belgian food historian Pierre Leclercq has traced the history of the french fry and asserts that "it is clear that fries are of French origin." ~ Wiki

LOL I could be dead before Minelab gets this detector in my hands, GB!! Of course, that could be said about any of us mortal souls. Sometimes I feel like I'm supporting the Manticore threads in this forum all by myself. Some days HOT and some days COLD.

Gerry, It was great to chat with you on our last day at Rye Patch. I was curious about what the weather did to you since we bailed the day before it got bad. Great results! It was also great to see Lucky again and meet Brett. That Goldhawk is an awesome coil. It kept the skunk away on at least 3 days for me and it's also popped the three smallest nuggets in our poke. Mike

A new version of the ML 100 headphones (these are the 6000 headphones) was submitted to FCC. These are called "ML-100A", so seems to be some revision/fix to the headphones as well? Maybe changed manufacturers? Who knows. https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=BfM%2F5ZHTR%2FcxVBrfVLG8zA%3D%3D&fcc_id=Z4C-ML100A I don't have enough patience to read through all of this. Offhand one difference between the two I noticed is the antenna gains appear to be different, so based on that it appears to be updated equipment and not just a report recertification or something like that. Not sure if it's a fix, or an improvement. Who knows what this is though. If it's another fix rather than just a recertification due to flawed testing or whatever, it'd be good to know, but I don't put much faith in ML educating us. I don't use headphones enough myself to really pursue it.

Interesting idea.

In a nutshell the Axiom will find the gold most other detectors will find, since the differences only show up in the extremes. At the extremes, I would expect a GPX 6000 to find any gold an Axiom would find, but the reverse may not always be true. A couple grand does get you that little bit extra. In situations where a person is trying to eke the last remaining gold out of super pounded locations, in general I would not expect machines costing far less to outperform machines costing a lot more. However, the Axiom excels specifically in four areas versus the 6K and 7K. It will handle EMI better, handle salt ground better, can tune out specific hot rocks better, and has better trash handling capability. In places where any combination of those four items is proving exceptionally problematic, the Axiom may very well offer solutions the other detectors do not offer. The Axiom can be noisy at its highest gain settings, but people will find it can be made very quiet, with minimal loss of sensitivity. People will tend to overdrive the sensitivity control, and that will be a mistake, especially before getting used to the machine and it’s responses. I am being purposefully vague, because it really just depends on the specifics of a given situation as to what may or may not be “better”. But I’m also not telling anyone they need to ditch their 6000 just because the Axiom is on the way, unless they are unhappy with it for some reason. Since this is the Garrett Forum, not the comparisons forum, I’ll leave it at that. I also think the machine has enough possibilities that intrepid owners are going to discover areas where the machine truly excels beyond what I have done. It’s not like I know everything about everything, and I look forward as much as anyone to learning tricks from some Axiom wizards. It’s an easy detector to like, and some people are really going to take to it, and learn some things about it I’ve not discovered yet. Aftermarket coils may also take Axiom to a another level, with a small mono being tops on my list, like a 6” round or better yet 6”x8”. I’d also like to see a standard pointy nose 9”x14” mono. But can’t complain about six coils out the starting gate, that’s for sure, and a nice change from what we have gotten used to lately.

Now that we have gotten some good rain, I have had the chance to see how well the 8" Concentric tames the small iron falsing. It is noticeably better than the DD coils, even running higher gain levels. I dug several good targets that I had been missed before. I am quite pleased with it.

There were two Vaquero marketed versions -- the original came with a 8"x9" concentric. Later they had a 'black' version which came with a DD coil (don't remember its size). Something you may already know -- some of the Tesoro models were actually tuned to a particular type and size of coil. To get optimum performance you had to either use the coil that came with it or send the detector and preferred coil to Prescott and get it tuned. I don't know if the Vaquero was one of those models, though. I have the stock 8"x9" concentric, 5.75" concentric, and 5"x 10" DD. The two concentrics seem to work best for me in my coin and relic sites. @kac and @dogodog are a couple regular posters here who use Tesoros and may be able to provide better / more complete info. The world expert on all things Tesoro is @Monte Berry who has his own website and forum (here).

I wish.... but I can tell you they produce the most amazing music I have ever heard from any kind of speaker or headphones...... I am completely blown away......