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  1. I can't really call this a bucket-lister because as recently as last week I thought to myself that I was probably never going to find one of these. I was using my White's Dual Field at the beach today and finding a little clad down in the wet sand but not much and nothing very old. After a few hours I started working my way back towards my car but hunting down closer to the water since it was nearly low tide. I started finding lead fishing weights and to my surprise I scooped out a couple of silver Rosies, '62 and '64. Now I don't find many silver coins on this particular beach so the 2 Rosies were welcome sights. I was now running a bit late so decided to dig one last target before calling it a day. A shallow target turned out to be another silver dime but this one looked different. At first I thought it was a Merc but when I saw the "One Dime" on the back surrounded by a wreath I was shocked that I had found a Barber dime. I flipped the coin around and went from shocked to disbelieving when I saw a seated liberty coin, my first in 52 years of metal detecting! Even without my reading glasses I could see "1873" pretty clearly. Despite being blackened by seawater and being 150 years old the dime seems to be in pretty good shape. I believe that I have only found 1 other coin that was older - an IH penny from the 1860's. I can't make out any mint marks on the coin but the black patina is hard to see through. I wonder how this coin got here? Was it dredged up as part of a sand reclamation project? At this beach I have never found anything even close to being this old.
    23 points
  2. Yesterday, Feb. 14th, was going to be the last warm day (any day above 32°F is warm this time of year) before the next snow storm so I was determined to get out anywhere and detect before we're socked in for another week. When you're semi-retired like I am sometimes the days will run into each other and I don't pay a lot of attention to what day it is. So like most days I started out doing the chores and dealing with some business stuff and before I new it, it was almost noon and it was getting cloudy and windy outside. At first I though, well there goes the day, and I'll just have to wait until next week to get out, but then the detectorist kicked in and said, "Get your butt out there!". So grabbed the gear and headed out to a park not too far away but one I've been ignoring for over a year. When I arrived at the park there was absolutely nobody there, a rare occurrence, and I had the whole park to myself. As I surveyed the sports field all I could see is a solid sheet of ice and snow from the last few snowfalls. There were the remains of half melted snow forts and lumps of what must have been snowmen at some point in time dotting the snowscape. It looked what I imagine a ghost town in Antartica would look like. It would have made a cool photo, but this was one of the few times I left my phone in the car and I was short on time so photos would have to wait. I made a bee line to the tot lot to try out a modified Fast program on the D2 that I've been tweaking. The targets, mostly small bits of foil, a bobby pin and a paper clip, and were few and far between so I know this place has been hit regularly, but I did also pull a dime, nickel, and penny out fairly close to the climbing bars and got a loud 95 signal pinging right next to one of the large vertical support bars. The bars were all ringing in the high 80s so I thought there must be a quarter next to the bar. As I tried to find the target with my pinpointer in the semi-frozen wood chips, I saw something larger than a quarter and bronze colored coming up. It turned out to be a military medal of some sort that I don't recognize. It must be a newer one than I'm familiar with. As I dropped the medal into my pouch, a couple of minivans pulled up and unloaded a herd of kids onto the playground. Well that's that, I thought and headed out into the frozen tundra to look for less frozen ground. I had only taked a few steps off of the tot lot and got a bangin' shallow 84 that sounded too good to be a zincoln, so maybe a bottle cap, I thought. It was too steady and good sounding to not dig and since I was testing a new program I was digging most everything anyway, so I went for it and out popped a 10 cent Euro! By now the wind was howling and the sky was darkening. I wandered over to a patch of actual semi-thawed ground near some picnic tables and among the foil and pull tabs I found a few heart-stoppers that turned out to be a fake gold ring and part of a fake gold necklace. 🙄 Not too far from there I got a little black cat pendant and noticed that the kids were leaving. Then I also noticed that some of them had headbands with hearts on them and some were chasing their valentines cards blowing away..... VALENTINES???... OH CRAP!!! It's Valentine's Day! 😱 I had only been out there a little over an hour and my wife wouldn't be home for a few more hours, so I hit the nearby restroom and figured I'd load up and head home. As I exited the restroom, it was like one of those horror movies where everything goes absolutely still and quiet right before the character gets blown up by a space alien. The kids were gone, the wind had stopped, there were no cars on the road, and even a little bit of sun was poking through the building snow clouds. "Well that's weird", I thought, "maybe I can detect just a little more". So I started heading back towards the picninc tables when I got a way too loud 99 on the D2. Now in my previous experience with the D2, 99 has never been anything good, but as I looked down getting ready to pass up what could only be a flattened coke can, I could see just a glint of something shiny poking through the moist dirt. It was a piece of a chain! I carefully brushed away the muddy soil and started to pick up what I figured was a broken hunk but it kept on going, and going, and going. By now I my heart was pounding and I was wishing I had my phone in case I needed to call 911. As I finally reach the end of the chain I could tell there was something on the end not coming loose from the ground. I gently peeled the mud, dirt, and ice back and it revealled a huge heart pendant! It was a sign from God to get home and save Valentines Day (as well as my own butt)!!! When I got home, I carefully cleaned the chain and heart off with a damp paper towel and discovered that the heart pendant opens into a 4 piece locket that resembles a 4 leaf clover and stamped on the inside and on the clasp and tag is 925. Silver!!! 23.5 grams of silver! It's the largest silver object I've ever found! When my wife got home, I presented her with the siver necklace and some flowers I picked up on the way home and told her, "Treasure for my Treasure!" So I got major points and this is one time metal detecting saved the day as well as my bony ass! 😉 This is what we got today so far.
    21 points
  3. Someone asked recently about finding small gold with a 15" coil at the beach. I found a little patch today and slowed down enough to find a couple of pieces of tiny jewelry. If you have a compatible detector (x-terra pro) then this 15" coil should work. Will it work on others as well?
    14 points
  4. I've been staying home for a few days, but now I'm back like a freight train. 😀 Invited Chase down today to hunt a new permission, an old house that was probably built in the late 1800's, a permission I got hunting another farm, the farmer was renting that one and working on it, he invited me to hunt his family land. His grandfather built the house, and his Dad was born there. At least 3 generations of very nice people. Tried to make friends with kitty but he wasn't having it. 😀 Hacked around the house a bit, found mostly junk and a few wheats. I did get an old brass AAA plate (Maryland) and this: 1954 silver Washington. Gave both of them to the family. I didn't photograph the AAA badge I dug but it looked like the one above. Dad, son and his wife were there, and they were excited and grateful for the badge and coin. The father told me that he lost a gold ring a long time ago and never found it, he showed me where. Here's my trash from that farm: Yeah, quite a bit. 😵 First time junk. I did keep the milk glass butt cream jar. 🤣 We looked around a bit more, and decided to go to some older places, they were kinda busy there. Went to one, found next to nothing, so we went to the old farm with the cellar hole again. I'll go back to the first farm myself soon. It cleared up and got warm, we had walked across the huge field looking for random stuff, I didn't get anything but I think Chase did. Got here, and I got another big surprise, my second here in a week. My second "slick" SLQ, not a heck of a lot of detail on the back and no date: And right next to it I got another 94: Nice 1941 Washington quarter, my 3d silver today! Here's the total take: I got 2 memorials, 8 wheats, a clad dime, and my first but toasted shield nickel: The back doesn't look much better: It was a solid 58, I had no idea what it was until I got home. Trash was pretty horrendous here as well, lots of car parts. 😵 Oh well. Chase got some great stuff too, always fun to have him along.
    12 points
  5. Did some wet sand hunting today as the water was too rough to get in. Found this 10K, 1.9-gram gold chain in the wet sand zone where the waves were just breaking and rolling onto shore. I was hunting in Beach Low Conductors, sensitivity 23 and prospecting audio, all metal. It was about 3 inches deep and gave a clear, crisp diggable sound. No doubt it was a non-ferrous target.
    10 points
  6. Two varieties that year -- with and without arrows on the date. I don't see arrows on yours -- this would be the earlier minted of the two varieties. Now, concerning the mintmark: only Carson City of the branch mints (i.e. outside of Philadelphia) produced coins with that date for the no-arrows variety. Turns out only one(!) of those -CC mintmarked coins is known to exist, so.... If yours is the second then you can buy that beach! There are also two versions of the no arrow Philadelphia ('plain' meaning no mintmark) from that year -- closed 3 (~1.5 million minted) and open 3 (~60,000 minted). So if you didn't win the big lottery prize you still have a chance to cash a good sized ticket (well, in the latter case it depends on how well this cleans up...). You can find photos of both here. The difference does appear to be pretty subtle. Nice find, regardless.
    9 points
  7. I've always compared operating a metal detector for nugget hunting to learning a musical instrument. To do it well takes endless hours of practice with intense concentration. If you are thinking about anything besides the nugget underneath the next swing of the coil you are going to miss gold. I have spent my entire working career around heavy equipment and chainsaws and I cannot pass the hearing test for my commercial drivers license but i am still rather successful at nugget hunting. Technology is fantastic but it will never replace the need for hard physical effort and training yourself to not only hear but to also listen.
    7 points
  8. As long as you can hear the threshold and tune your ear to it, how you get there does not matter. If you want to “Hear Those Gold Whispers Missed By Others” slow down, then slow down again. Get the coil center closer to the gold by covering every square inch carefully and methodically, moving any obstacles (rocks, brush) while doing so. I have used lots of different audio options over the years, and for me at least it can be anything from external speakers to ear buds to over the ear headphones. In general all that matters for me is external noise. If dead quiet I prefer an external speaker. Any background noise, I go to headphones. My Sun Ray Pro Golds are my go to default when in doubt. You need something that matches your ear as far as any hearing loss issues. I need dual volume controls and enhanced high frequency output due to high frequency hearing loss, and partial deafness in my right ear. Everyone’s hearing is different so what works for me may not work for you. Simply try lots of options and use what you like best.
    7 points
  9. I like watching Andys videos. His testing is fair and he goes about it in precise manner. No BS with his channel just good old metal detecting. strick
    7 points
  10. Steve, is more than right! If you’re looking for missed nuggets then you’re hunting old patches. Slow your swing way down, like you have your shoe laces tied together. Overlap your swings and keep that coil level, boot cobbles and get under brush that others may have avoided…the above may not work the first time, so repeat until it does! 😂👍 Rick
    6 points
  11. Anyone that needs some good detector comparison and hunt videos for the Equinox 800, Equinox 900, Manticore and Deus 2 can certainly get lots of good information from Andy's (Abenson's) Relics and Rings YouTube site. If you are looking for weird, provocative, crazy, angry, not very factual, controversial, entertainment only, egotistical, opinionated, click bait type metal detecting YouTube videos, Andy's videos are not for you. If you want calm, down to earth, just the facts, painfully honest videos about those metal detectors, his videos are worth a real close look. Thanks Andy for taking the time to make them. Here is a good one.......
    5 points
  12. Correct, Bill, except the Torus has it's own amplifier and adjustable volume, so It's just like using a booster/speaker combo; the advantage is that the detector volume can be set conservatively, which keeps threshold instability that increases by cranking up the detector volume when using the WM-12 to a minimum, which also negates the need to use the audio smoothing filter to combat the added instability, thus allowing you to hear the faintest targets that would otherwise be filtered out, or lost in the instability when audio smoothing is set to off. Also, I can get a full three days of detecting with the Torus before it needs to be charged.
    5 points
  13. I also recommend the Avantree Torus; I use it with every detector I own. The Torus uses aptX LL Bluetooth, so you’ll need to get a transmitter in order to use it with your GPZ 7000. There are a few to choose from on Amazon and are very inexpensive - Here's the one I have. You will also need an adapter to go from the 1/4” headphone socket on the GPZ 7000 to the 3/8” mini connecting cable of the transmitter; a right-angle adapter works best. I just attached the transmitter to the detector body cover with velcro:
    5 points
  14. Does anyone have a program for the D2 that is capable of finding a Manticore? Sorry I had to poke some fun. My D2 is running great and love the weight and it’s finding some goodies. The new D2 SteveG detector rod is awesome as well as all the other stuff I got from Gerry recently! And yes I am like most out there waiting for a Manti too! That’s going to be wife’s new machine to keep her with same platform. Of course she likes the weight thing on the D2 too.
    5 points
  15. Some info not in my journal of 2002 : In my long talks with Jacob in 2002 it seemed there was a lot of tension between miners and loggers, miners and farmers, miners and ranchers, and needless to say, miners and thieves. The old reports get into some of this. Some of it is told by local historians. I think there is truth to some of it and perhaps some exaggeration to some of the stories thrown in for good measure. There is really no way to know for sure. For someone like me who has actually mined and done gold exploration in this area and is writing about the old timers of the 1930's era it has become a treasure trove of wild stories and supposed events. At some point I will also get into the post WW2 era at this location. There were two crews who worked these claims in the early 1950's. Both met with failure as far as old reports go. I am still researching some of the 1950's info which was written about in the same government report. I have made at least one good connection to this era and hope to talk more about it soon. I know it's been a fantastical, wild ride up to now but there is still much more to come. Hang in there with me, we'll get it all told - the good, the bad, and even the ugly. I promise.
    5 points
  16. I can understand YouTube it's a video and can be informative. But Facebook I see no logic in the way it is laid out or used, and Instagram seems to have no real value other than wasting a few hours of your life. Yeah, I'm old.
    5 points
  17. It was used on the ATX. I noted to Garrett that it is critical for people to know about these coils, as people just think they are standard DD coils. I made quite a big deal about the fact this coil has been around for awhile, but that Garrett has never bothered to explain it to anyone. I mean seriously, when do companies pass on touting something new and coming up with new acronyms for it? I was calling it the Bullseye DD (Garrett now owns the White's rights to that name) but they just recently settled on Focused Core. Probably did not want it confused with the Bullseye pinpointer. But yeah, I'll take credit for this finally being explained as an exclusive Garrett option. I did chuckle over the brand new thing. Yes, the name is new but not the design. I've explained this all in detail previously months ago, including the ATX connection. Mentioned it in several threads. Went out of my way to highlight it as a must read, pinned it to the top of the forum, you name it. Just proves nobody actually reads my stuff... I have kind of a why bother feeling about that. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Maybe if it is not posted on YouTube it's not real, so I've added the new video to my past posts. And added "Focused Core" where appropriate replacing my previous Bullseye moniker.
    5 points
  18. Not in the 2002 journal : On the subject of what Jacob called the secret lookout station - I went up there with him once. It is on the northernmost perimeter of the claims and very remote. The old road is still there and winds up to the top of the mountain although you would need a Jeep or 4 wheeler to make it all the way as much of the road has been washed out. In 2019 I tried to get a Ford F150 4 wheel drive up there but got hung up after a short distance and had to back all the way down in reverse as there are no turn around places and the road is narrow with dropoffs on one side and a mountain rock wall on the other. If you ran into a critter up there on foot there is nowhere to go and you would be forced to deal with it. The old crew had a tree stand overlooking part of the road but none of us including Jacob could find it. He did show me the area of the lookout though. Someday, I would like to hike up there and set up a one night camp just to see what happened. There is no cell service either. Not there or anywhere on the claims. That area is known as a bigfoot hot spot but I have never heard or seen anything like that while there. I would be more concerned with mountain lion as I have seen those on the claims before.
    4 points
  19. They are back up but they have removed 91% of the claimant names and addresses and all of the case files. A definite hit on the usefulness of their system. Land Matters maps do still display claimant names to help your searches.
    4 points
  20. Thanks Guys for watching my videos. Glad they are helpful and enjoyable to some. I enjoy making them, gives me something to do when the weather is bad.
    4 points
  21. May 6 2002 Part Six A SECRET LOOKOUT STATION AND VISITORS When Jacob finished his story he paused, rolled another smoke, and started into yet another tale of his adventures here. He told us about what he called a “secret lookout station” the old crew used on occasion back in 1936. He said there was an old logging road about a mile north of camp that wound its way up the mountain. It was very remote and sometimes used by outlaws as they traversed the range. At certain times when the crew was put on high alert one of the men would be sent up there to guard against hooligans coming down to the south from higher up the mountain. Jacob said you just never knew what you might run into up there. It was a lonely and dangerous place inhabited by bear, lion, bobcats, thugs, and other things. I asked him what he meant by other things. He took another sip from his cup and began to speak in a rather low tone. He said he was up there at the lookout station one night and there was a three quarter moon. It was a warm Summer night. He had his rifle and revolver on him. The station was actually placed about twenty feet up in a Ponderosa pine tree. He said it was about 2:00 AM and everything was stone quiet. He had about three more hours to go before he would head back down to camp. A little further up the road he heard what he referred to as whoop and a loud growl. Then another one from further east of the first one. Then he saw what made the first noise which was close to him. Out of the trees came what he called a great ape. It was now standing on the logging road north of him. It let out another whoop and there was an answer to the call and very close now. Then he saw another one come out of the trees on the other side of the road. Two great apes standing side by side. They were about 100 feet away and didn’t seem to know he was there. Jacob said not too much scared him but when he grabbed his rifle his hands were shaking a little. He watched the two creatures start to walk up the road and away from him. They did not make a sound. He said they looked to be over seven or eight feet in height and weighed at least 400 pounds or so but it was hard to tell. They were covered in reddish brown hair and what he glimpsed of the eyes looked to be large and kind of pale yellow. They disappeared over the next hill and he never saw them again. He said he was not fooling with us and the story was true. TO BE CONTINUED ..............
    4 points
  22. Great find to save the day, all I got was yelled at on the 14th because she only got flowers and dinner. I tried to find a card for her, but nobody makes one that say's to the daughter of Satan on it. The ground here is still frozen at 3 inches deep, and the most areas that I hunt I have to go down about 6 to hit the good stuff. Good luck on your next outing and stay safe out there.
    4 points
  23. Using a modded Diving program, this canister shot was in the 70s while in its concretion, but a steady 3 when broken out. I think this because of the iron content that has leached into the concretion, creating a target with a bigger volume.
    4 points
  24. I have quite a bit experience with both the Deus 1 & 2 as well as the Equinox 800 & 900. I personally prefer the Equinox over the either Deus when park hunting. Can't really give you a specific reason why, I guess I just enjoy the audio of the Equinox better when park hunting. For other types of hunting, like ghost towns, I like the Deus better. Nice to have both.
    4 points
  25. I'm just putting 2 & 2 together and realizing that some of the channels I watch belong to fellow forum members. Great channel abenson! I've been watching but didn't realize it was yours.
    3 points
  26. Thanks CPT, What a great hobby we have that even after years of surprises we are still able to have these awesome moments of discovery! I appreciate the feedback VL! Sometimes it's easy to think that all the old coins and other old targets have been scooped up already by generations of detectorists but it's great that Mother Nature has a way of doling out some of her treasures here and there from time to time. This seems especially true for beach hunting and makes so many trips to the coast more exciting. You just never know!
    3 points
  27. Actually I’d say it’s not a bad habit to get into for all metal detectors, and as a rule I personally always do a factory reset with any detector I own after a coil change. Then I never need to wonder if I should do it or not. I just do it out of habit. So me, yes, I factory reset after a coil swap, only possible exception being the Deus and it’s wireless coils.
    3 points
  28. I wonder if others also notice that swinging (s l o w l y) twice over the same sweep area, many times brightens up what is an "iffy" signal on the first swing. I have found this to be true enough times to make it something I do as a matter of course when I'm in an area that requires careful detecting.
    3 points
  29. Minelab didn't even believe it themselves even before Xterra Pro, otherwise why did they include SF on the Nox? The whole SMF vs SF debate is kind of ridiculous. We don't have to chose one or the other anymore as Nox, Apex, D2, Legend, Manticore, and the forthcoming Quest V60/V80 all have multiple selectable single frequency as a feature along side Simultaneous MF.
    3 points
  30. What a great story! 🙂 I stayed home on Valentine's Day, gave my wife this and she loved it. For years she's been loading up silver and gold charm bracelets with charms that reflect our lives, she even got a silver toilet paper charm during the "pandemic" 🙄. Brilliant hunt, someone beat me to it but I earned two of those AAM's in the Army, one was given me in the field by a Brigadier General. The second was in the Middle East (Turkey) for latrine duty above and beyond the call 🤣 The medics were gonna condemn our field latrines so I mustered a group of soldiers and we told poop jokes all day while disinfecting and restoring them. That's one of the many great things about detecting, finding incredible jewelry for our better halves, and often it saves the day. 👍 You earned that medal! 😀
    3 points
  31. Thanks Sirius, The tides improve over the next couple of days so I will try to get back there as soon as I can. Here is a picture of the reverse. Not seeing any mint mark. 😬
    3 points
  32. Pendant is pretty cool. Almost forgot what snow looks like was gonna ask whats up with all that white @#$% in your yard? 🙂
    3 points
  33. Got 3" of snow here in Arizona today. I looked up while editing a video and these guys and gals had come to visit. Also my coyotes are glad I am back. They come running any time I call to them. I like living with Coyotes much better than Grizzlies. Sometimes they will lay down on the tailing piles here at camp and just hang out with me.
    3 points
  34. I thought this video does a pretty good job of explaining their new DD coils.
    2 points
  35. Maybe Doc could build us a rollbar with his new 3D machine..... I'd buy one...
    2 points
  36. Bob, thanks for another killer outing. You were indeed the silver slayer. No silver for me this time out, but some killer and unusual finds nevertheless. Still doing some research on some of my finds and will post separately.
    2 points
  37. Thanks F350, Yes, I have heard that there was a lot of military training on our local beaches and have found many bullets and shell casings. Thanks School, Because of age and condition I think I would have been less surprised to scoop out a silver dollar or gold coin. Thanks Mitchell, Nice! If I found a coin as old as 1933 on this beach I would be surprised but 1873 just seems crazy. I don't think I've even found any Mercs at this location and really not many silver coins at all. Thanks KOB, The condition of the coin is just as shocking as finding it. It must have had some nice detail when it was lost.
    2 points
  38. Small stuff doesn't seem to be a issue for these big name detectors. If you can find pickers you can find small jewelry. My legend can find small stuff too on a 13 in.
    2 points
  39. A crazy hunt. Cool finds. Nice silver to save the day! And then snow. lol
    2 points
  40. The sea always finds a way to provide. As long as the conditions of not being sanded in is met, and plenty of beach erosion to keep all heavy stuff in one spot. Stuff refreshes daily unless there's rocks blocking the waterline. So it might be worth doing multiple searches of the same area until it gives up!
    2 points
  41. I assume you mean the Garrett version since the White’s one has obviously been around for a couple years. Not yet. It’s being remade as a Garrett product so is not an exact copy of the White’s coil using the same mold. That in turn has lead to it taking more time. I’m not going to be so dumb as to try and predict when dealers will have them, but now that Axiom is out they can devote more resources to just getting it done, so I hope it will not be too much longer. 85 nuggets at 11 grams found by Steve H in Alaska with Garrett 24K
    2 points
  42. All those machines you have makes me feel better about myself only having a half dozen 🙂 Still fun to mix it up and use different ones, keeps the hobby alive.
    2 points
  43. That is correct GB, use your remote on the stem and put you ws6 puck in your pocket with your own set of phones attached to them. All you need is an adapter to take the puck as seen here on this link.
    2 points
  44. I do watch @abenson Relics and Rings videos. But very few others. Nobody else I watch regularly at all. - Dave
    2 points
  45. As I posted earlier, the 14DD was made to that size in order to near-match the 11 mono in sens and depth so that the user didn't feel like he/she/it was missing out on targets. ...and yes, the smaller DD coils when they arrive will lose depth on bigger targets but be equally as good on the small stuff as every other coil when used in AI mode. Standard DD mode will lose a bit of both of course...
    2 points
  46. After taking a hike to check a new spot we came back to camp & found out we should cover our panning tub !🐝
    2 points
  47. May 6 2002 Part Five Jacob said the crew knew that the loggers were up to no good. He said they were born troublemakers. Anyone with half a brain knows you don’t walk into a gold mining camp at night without an invitation. Jacob told us some of the loggers had revolvers and one had a shotgun. They had gotten liquored up and wanted to see what we had to steal. Jed and Roy stood face to face for about a minute. Neither one said a word. Then Roy backed down and the loggers headed back up the mountain. No doubt they were still trying to build up their courage by drinking some more. We had noticed they were carrying bottles of whisky. We figured we were not done with them and we were right. Jacob said they were still up around midnight when sure enough the loggers came back down to camp. Roy hollered out he was coming in and didn’t want any misunderstandings. Jed told him that if they came in they would get all heck kicked out of them or possibly shot. He meant it too. Jed never bluffed. The fools came into camp despite the warning and started running their mouths at us with Roy saying they knew we had gold hidden and they just wanted to see it. He also said they were running low on whisky and wanted to get some of ours. At this point Jed had enough of them. He walked over to Roy who was drunk and still running his mouth. Jed cracked him on the jaw with a short right handed punch and Roy went down. The others decided they wanted some and the fight was on. To say they got beat was an understatement. Jacob said that the fight lasted about two minutes and the loggers got the worst of it. The mining crew relieved them of their weapons which they never gave back. The loggers had to carry Roy back up the mountain as he was passed out. Jacob said they ran into this crew in the tavern about two weeks later and none of them said a word to them. Jacob told us that his brother loved to fight. He wouldn’t look for one but if a fight presented itself he was always willing. According to him, Jed wasn’t a real big guy and some thugs underestimated him until he built up a reputation in the area. Then no one messed with him unless they were newcomers and didn’t know him. He said that was the same for the entire mining crew. People stayed clear of them, even the deputies. They had become a real mean bunch and never backed down from anyone. He said it was just the way things were back then. TO BE CONTINUED ............
    2 points
  48. That's the part I don't get, they spend all that money on R&D and miss the seemingly obvious like the GPX 6000 twisting shaft and coil ears so thin they snap crackle and pop, a decade after they first discover the problem they continue making them the same. Maybe they have employees a bit like council workers where one does all the work, the rest stand around and watch so the poor guy doing all the work makes mistakes as he's just too busy 😛 Good way to keep costs high while productivity is low. An important part of the testing of the GPX 6000 was burying a can of red bull and seeing how deep the 6000 could hit it, it was a big event and everyone important came along. The product tester had to dig many holes in rock hard ground to discover the maximum can depth.
    2 points
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