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Snuck out to a permission nearby for couple hours and snagged some old clad and a nice silver spoon. Not shown was a couple small flat buttons and a buckle. All finds go to the owner of the property as she collects the stuff. Want to thank Valens Legacy. Took that Pentagram pendant and turned it onto a keychain. Guess it does bring good luck, who wudda thunk? :)

Our gold cuts were now at around 15 ounces each or about $4500 in 2002 which was a fair amount of money. I will never forget this day as long as I live. It was the beginning of a big change in the way I looked at life and my finances would continue to grow. $4500 back in 2002 would buy you quite a bit. Now gold is hovering around $2000/ounce and probably going higher.

May 22 2002 We were all up fairly early. The weather was warm but not hot. I still have not seen what Jacob refers to as the Big Heat. I suppose it will eventually come and I will see how our crew handles it. We have not had any more issues with trespassers or thieves so guard duty was suspended. However, Jacob will remain at camp during the day to guard things. He did mention that he would enjoy getting up to the site from time to time to check on things and give advice so we will rotate people starting today so Jacob can be at the mine site for a few hours daily. We need him to be a big part of our decision making as far as where and how to run things. After lunch Jacob came up to inspect the site. He gave us some direction as to our digging operations and took some sample pans. He brought one over and showed us some gold. That always fuels us for the rest of the day. Then he grabbed up a shovel and started to do some digging. I could see his face light up as he shoveled the gravels. He worked at a slow and steady pace. By the day’s end we had washed about 16 yards of gravel. Jacob told us the ground was looking very promising. We all want to see over 100 ounces and with the gold caches included we are well on our way. If I can get an excavator up here eventually there will be no stopping us. TO BE CONTINUED ...............

I made up this crevice tool, it's for scratching the gold out of the cracks in the rocks and rock bars. The scraping part of the tool is hardened and tempered 5160 spring steel, and the basket twist handle is made from 6mm mild steel rods. I think it might just work ok, you know those little bits of gold that get jammed in the rocks that the pointy end of the pick is just a bit to wide for. The Crevice Tool cheers dave

After the struggling with the decision of which detector to buy between the Manticore or the Nox 900, Ive decided to go with the 900. I was on a waiting list for several weeks for the Manticore. My reasons was the Nox 800 is a proven machine and with the expanded VDI range I thought this will help out a bunch. Secondly, I love the 10x6 eliptical coiltek which is a killer for my detecting style (heavy iron). Third, is the faster chip set. Four, is the build quality. Although I had no problems with coil ears, wobbly shaft, and broken arm cuff, I always thought that the 800 was a serious hunter. The light and vibrating handle was no factor in my decision making. I thought the 2D screen may be way too distracting on the Manticore due to the concentrations of iron I have to contend with, but I do like the audio themes. An finally, I REALLY didn't like the way Minelab had decided to short-sheet the smaller dealers who has served me and others so well in the past and favored Bass Pro and Cabelas. Nothing against those two stores they are great, but the smaller dealers know their stuff. So I woke up this morning and decided to get off the stupid waiting list and go forward with the 900. High Plains Prospectors was very understanding and was very happy with my decision. I also told them that when/if the time comes I will deal when them on the Manticore. I will wait a year to see what develops on the Manticore. I do believe the Manticore is/will be a knock-out machine and the day will come when I may have one, but it will not be soon. The 800 and Deus I and II have found me alot of great things. Knowing that the 900 will be here on Monday gives assurance that my Deus II and Nox 900 will continue to be a one-two punch. Call this a celebration vent

I've almost had mine 4 months now, it's had quite a bit of use in that time mainly for looking for silver coins, it's had 1 prospecting trip and found me one single small nugget that was 0.06 of a gram, it performed reasonably good finding it considering I was using an 11" coil,, and if I was using the Nox with it's 11" coil I'd expect similar results, the jury is out until a smaller coil arrives there, so far everything is fine for that, the ever so slightest edge to the Nox 800 on the very smallest bits of gold, As for coins, hands down happy with the Manticore for a few reasons, I hunt in very mild soils and don't have a lot of trash so my opinion on mineralized soil or high trash areas would be worthless, however for my conditions its proving to be a great detector, it's better than the Nox 800 for EMI, I would say very noticeably better there, and the long EMI press actually works, and works very well. and I believe that's missing off the 900? Keep in mind I have no idea about the 900 so all I'm comparing to is the 800. The 2D target trace I find is a valuable tool, that's coming from soneone that liked the Target Trace on the CTX so I'm more familiar with using it and find it very helpful, the more information I can get about digging targets the better as I do dig in places I prefer not to dig many holes. The Target ID's are more bouncy than the Nox 800, I suspect mostly due to having the bigger ID range and also the higher sensitivity settings available on the Manticore, so if I keep my sensitivity lower I can get my Target Id's to perform on par with the Nox for the most part, even with having the bigger target ID range. Keeping lower sensitivity seems a good tip for the Manticore, if you're chasing depth it really doesn't even matter if you lower it, the Manticore is very deep even in lower sensitivity so if you have to stabalize the machine by running lower sensitivity you don't have to be worried you're losing depth. I at first didn't like the bigger ID range as it does cause more movement in Target Id's but the more I used it the more I found the benefits of it, prime examples were my common pull tabs, on the Nox they show up 16/17 sometimes flicking to 15 and on the Manticore they're coming up 42 to 44. The NZ silver threepence comes up 15/16 on the Nox but comes up 36 to 40 so with the Nox the silver and pull tab was coming up the same numbers, the Manticore has moved the Silvers slightly below the Pull tabs in the numbers so I can dig more silvers with less pull tabs. This obviously doesn't help with coins on edge but it sure helps dig less holes and less pull tabs than with the Nox. With the Nox I used the depth meter to try dig less pull tabs and more silvers, and the silvers were often deeper having been there longer. Now I have more ID information along with the depth meter so more information helping me dig less. Digging less is important to me as I don't like digging in the areas I detect as I want to annoy people as little as possible to retain access. The build quality is a lot better, I have no fear of breaking my ears and if I do its a lower shaft not a new coil so that's much better, everything about it seems better quality. It's got some messy adhesive around the seal area on the control pod, but looking at it closely it's not going to affect the waterproofing, it's cosmetic, the glue is doing it's job just fine. It appears they applied the glue, fixed the pod together and when dry trimmed off the excess glue that was protruding so it makes it look quite messy. It's more comfortable to swing than the Nox, perhaps the new raised arm cuff and different handle design. I've only had it at the beach for 5 days when I was staying near a beach area, it performed very well, unfortunately didn't find me much as my beaches in that area are very desolate of targets, so few people doesn't make for good detecting but I got a good feel for how it works in the salt and I was impressed, depth was great as was stability, the coil moved through the water just fine too. I wasn't concerned at all about drowning it which was a nice feeling not having that in the back of my mind all the time. So yes, I'm very happy, glad I purchased it and I suspect I'll be even happier when the other coils arrive. Is it worth the price difference between the 900? That's one only the buyer can answer as the value difference means more to some than others, for me it made little difference as it's just like buying another coil or something and the difference between the two detectors for me personally is well worth paying for. I'd have a lot more trouble justifying buying the 900 than I did the Manticore as an upgrade to the 800.

Today i took my new X.Terra Pro out for a hunt. I used the Nox 800 coil on it to see what that would be like and see if there is any major difference between the 800 and the new Terra. There is some really rough weather at the moment and it was a bit hit and miss whether i would find anything. But there was 1 good spot. I set my machine up in Beach 2 , Recovery 3 and Sensitivity 24 ! , did a noise cancel and got going. Almost immediately i found a few coins, some on the surface by sight and others buried. The Terra seems to be like the Nox though i'm not sure of depth on the salt beach. That might be because the machine is single freq and the Nox is multi freq? After a few more coins i turned my back on the sea and paid for it. My lower half got the wash of a lifetime by a wave LOL and as i was wet that was it. I strayed into the water with the Terra and it seemed stable with only small light low toned chirps here and there. I'm sure that if i found a target i would have heard it and did find a pulltab in the water. I also found a non ferrous 1p coin right next to a 3 inch square piece of Iron scrap so the recovery speed seems good at 3 setting. That setting might be the reason for me thinking depth is not as good as the Nox? I kept up the hunt and found a lot more coins and found a junk ring encrusted in small shingle stones. and a junk toe ring and a junk Pendent. I think the new Terra is a good machine . Very good a backup to anyone who uses the Nox and even worth having as a cheap alternative to the much more expensive machines. Being able to use all the Nox coils and use the Nox 900 phones and with an adaptor use the phones from the Nox 800 and the August 650B phones it makes the Terra Pro a damned good bargain. I have always thought of the Nox's as the successor to the old Terra's but it looks like the new Pro is the real successor. About time too. Tomorrow i might go out with the Nox 800 , not sure yet or might with the Terra with its own coil on. This machine is going to eat into other machines sales. Or it should!

Found this chain on the high wet sand line. It wasn't very deep, maybe a couple of inches but really screamed out loud. The solid chain is 14K and the jump ring is steel / iron. The lobster claw is marked 1/10th 12K gold filled. Apparently, someone tried to fix it with the added components. There is also a small weld where one of the links must have broken at one time and was repaired. Its ID was a 14 with some mixed in negative number iron grunts because of the steel magnetic ring. I was searching in beach low conductors. The total weight is 10.7 grams.

Went out for a two hour beach hunt today. There was nothing in the wet sand or the slope so I decided to hunt the washes. I found the silver ring in one wash and the 375 (9k) gold ring in another. It’s my first 9k ring and now I need a 24k. Thanks for looking and HH.

I was going to post something similar Bill but you beat me to it. There are companies that release product in a near beta state, but it is extremely rare. The MX Sport and Fisher Impulse AQ come to mind. White's paid the price for that mistake, and Fisher is doing the same. I don't think XP is remotely in the same situation with the Deus II. XP does not owe an update to anyone. People assume updates can do magic, but there are hardware limitations that software can't fix, or the software itself has limitations based on the underlying methodology. Long story short thought the Deus 2 has been out for a couple years, is an excellent detector, but it can't and won't do everything perfectly. No detector does. As far as I am concerned personally the Deus 2 simply is what it is. If anyone thinks performance is lacking - get a different detector that has the performance you seek. I have a Deus 2 and by this fall I will either keep it or sell it. I don't care if they update it. It's the detector they were selling and that I bought, and I'll judge it based on that. I honestly don't think an update will change anything dramatically, and that it is basically wishful thinking to expect that it will.

Bill great comments — not toxic. That is why I prefer just a few manual knobs to mess with instead of all the software. Less hassle and forces you to utilize just a few settings and learn the machine. The TDI SLs are always my go to detector everything else is a bonus. Glad I couldn’t update my V3i software I am still learning it since it came out. Haha I just want to know why the Manticore brand new out of box on the park program with no adjustments smoked me on my D2 park program no adjustments and same targets. Lol My biggest problem with XP is the software updater to run on different platforms (Mac/pc) and if that hasn’t been addressed yet well…..to me that’s a tell tale sign it takes them a long time to produce something. Maybe they only have 1 developer working for them. Now in my eyes if they promoted a product that was supposed/sold to be upgradable well bad on them then - they should have known people would ask. That goes for any company. I am sure something will come eventually.

I'm sorry to disappoint you all but I"m able to post with no problems using crab apple safari.

May 21 2002 Part Seven After a bit of trial and error and a gradual widening of the hole Vern uncovered the metal container which held another 20 ounces of gold. He placed it on a rock. Jacob looked at it for a while and exclaimed that this was the very last of the old crew’s gold that he knew of. However, he was quick to say there may be more that was hidden by some of the crew who were murdered. Because of the generosity of Jacob our total gold take now has risen to 60 ounces and it was still May. We all gathered around Jacob to shake his hand and thank him. There was no greed in this man. He was old school. He understood hard work as opposed to instant gratification. He was also as loyal as they came. Once he was your friend he was with you all the way regardless of the circumstances. However, you would never want him as your enemy. The four of us talked happily of the claims and gold mining as we slowly made our way back to camp. It had been quite a day. For our supper Jacob made up some of Jed’s favorite hot water cornbread which we ate with stew and washed it down with some whisky. I sat back and tried to imagine myself as part of the old crew. For a minute or two I drifted back in time to 1936. I felt like I wanted to stay there. TO BE CONTINUED .................

Hey, Step back Reg, it's guys like Simon who keep dealers in business. You know the saying.. The man who dies with the most detectors, his dealer wins....😆

I found the following in a new version of the Deus II manual. Couldn't find the section in my printed manual, so this must be an upcoming feature. Honestly, I'm not sure if I will use this when out hunting. 🤔

March is over, so the harvest is ready to start. .......Start of April Harvest......

May 23 2002 This morning’s cleanup showed .3 ounces in the pan. Jim stayed down at camp while Vern, Jacob, and I went up to work the mine. It was a beautiful morning for working and we went at it until around 2:00 PM when we broke for lunch. Jacob went back down to camp and Jim came up to dig. The rounded channel rocks were good to see but were playing hell with our digging speed not to mention our joints. I couldn’t imagine how Jed and Jacob and the rest of the old crew were able to do what they did. My hands and elbows ache every day. Vern, being the younger member of the crew, was fairing a bit better. Nobody ever complained and Jacob told us to just keep a steady pace and don’t push yourself past the breaking point. We were all hoping the permit would be approved before the weather got too hot. By the end of the day we had managed a hard fought for 12 yards of washed gravels. Now I understand why those old boys drank whisky at night. It killed the pain. After supper that’s what we all did, had a couple of drinks with Jacob. TO BE CONTINUED .............

Great finds and I wish that I was able to hunt some place with that old of items. Good luck on your next outing and stay safe out there.

Just opened the box to my Legend (non pro pack). It did come with the hat. First impressions: This one doesn't have the newer middle rod. I thought it felt a little chunky...not heavy but I think the Nox/Manticore are lighter. That's no big deal but straight up one thing I do not like is the hump in the grip. Very similar to what the Deus has...I didn't like it on that machine either. I have it charging right now. I did play with it some in the house but can't tell anything from that other than hearing the sounds and getting a feel for menu Navigation. Based on simple air testing...it's at least on par with the Nox/Manticore in the air, if not a little better.

I've debated throwing in on this topic because sometimes these types of discussions can become toxic. So I will state right off the bat that this is only my opinion. With that being said...it was only a few years ago when detectors could not be updated. We bought the detectors, figured out their warts, shortcomings AND advantages and learned how to use them. That's just how it was. Now we have detectors that can be updated and that is for the most part a good thing. But keep this in mind: manufacturers are under no obligation to update their products. They could easily lock these new detectors and move on to the next one. Instead they choose not to and suddenly there is this backlash where some folks feel that they are entitled to updates immediately and continually. To call a new detector a "beta" is grossly unfair. Unless a manufacturer releases a beta update to solicit user feedback, it is absolutely absurd to think that any company would knowingly release a flawed detector. I can tell you first hand that these detectors are tested and tested and retested, both in the lab and in the field. That doesn't mean that they are perfect and in fact they may have bugs that were missed. It only means that in the company's view the detector is ready for release. Further, while it is easy to say "oh, Detector X needs this feature because it has a problem in this environment," making that statement assumes that updating software on a metal detector is as easy as changing out a car battery. Please. For example, to add an iron filter may sound easy, but to do it in a way that works and that doesn't compromise other aspects of the software and detector performance is no easy task. My advice: use what you have and learn it's pros and cons. Submit feedback to the manufacturers if you wish and post those results if you want to. But leave companies like XP alone when it comes to the updates. If and when one shows up use it. But until then, use your Deus II and learn it. I can tell you that my buddies who have them are killing it in multiple environments and are continually learning how to tweak their detectors to get better results. I wish I had the dough to buy one. From what I have seen it is an amazing detector as is. Bill

That’s the basic symptom reported. A app force quit fixed it for me. This is not the same as a regular swipe up and close. Many people don't know it, but closing an app does not actually shut it down. It runs in the background forever unless you reboot the device, or do a forced reset. I am typing on an iPad right now.

I removed your link since links of this sort included by first time posters usually are advertising links. It often gets the new poster banned immediately. I’ll give you a chance however. If people want to see the website they can Google it. I can promise you your friend did not detect a bracelet at 1 meter with any metal detector. That is not possible with current technology. As the poster above noted, Minelab makes the best and most powerful. Anyone saying otherwise is going to need proof from trusted third party people, not some videos they make themselves.

It's a hobby. People want to have fun while detecting. If the Manticore helps you to do that then that's what a hobby is about. I'm going to get one just for the extra fun factor that it will give me. Life is short folks. The only sure thing in detecting is my wife's purse, everything else requires serious digging.

Chuck, I went several years ago before they moved the Base Camp up the hill...accommodations look alot nicer. The hospitality of the owners, friendliness of other hunters, and some AMAZING local seafood was the best I've ever had, anywhere. I found one 6 gram iron covered gold nugget on the old Snowflake claim (loaded with iron, railroad spikes, etc.), my biggest nugget to date. Make sure you reserve an ATV, lot's of ground to cover and most spots are miles away. Plenty of mosquitos (bring repellant) and bring lots of cash...Betty sells large gold nuggets at the end of your week... in case you don't find some. It's not the gold you find, it's the golden memories and friendships you make that counts.😁 Bill

Yes, the 700/900 is easier to run than the D2. The gold chain detection is about even between the two machines.

War of 1812 Buttons and an early Navy found on various permissions.

Hello, who can tell you about the settings of the Legend on the beach, priske?

That's not fair for dealers that has taken the pre order list..

It works OK on my DOS 3.1 ........... Just kidding 🤣

Nice spot for a permission.👍 You're adding to the owner's collection in a way not soon forgotten.. Which could easily turn into permissions for half a county like 350 has 🤩

Me too. Nice finds.

I think you made a good decision. Since I use the 800 and can say it's enough for me at this point in time. The expanded numbers will allow more information on targets. If you will narrow down your pin pointing you can get a good idea if the target is roundish or elongated.

Great hunt with some very early finds.It's good to see that there others out there beside myself(on occassion)that are still swinging a Garrett AT.

As far as we know it's never been detected 👍

Heckuva spot you got there kac, I love hitting a place that hasn't been worked over too badly, or that was worked over very badly 😏 Some serious silver ya got there, your half Reale looks better than some of the ones I've found. 👍 🏆

If you feel it does not cost a lot and are willing to risk losing it on a possible scam, you are certainly welcome to do so , and we all would love to see it perform as advertised ! Can you get a live demonstration of one before you buy or is a video and the advertising literature all that's available? Claims of detecting depths over a meter appear with some regularity here on the forums but have never turned out to be true. The cautionary buyer beware responses you have received here are from some of the best detectorists in the world. I'm sure the major detector companies have Steve's cell number on speed dial . I came here three years ago hoping to learn from the best there is and I am not disappointed . Good luck in whatever path you choose. There are some great deals on a GPX right now.....

That’s good to hear, HerrUU as I’m about to order the LG30 and putting the LG28 for sale , though there may be little demand for it. I’d wait for the package with new cuff and cf mid-rod but it’s not available till at least mid May and I want it for the spring time when fields are easier to detect. I agree the LG15 , LG24 and now the LG30 will make quite a well rounded outfit.

yet with the deus 2 I find it difficult to hit small medieval coins in the middle of the iron, the targets that exist in the United States are different from the European ones ... for example I found the 6-inch plate with the nokta makro legend great for hitting those small medieval coins disguised in iron and it doesn't cost 1600€ :)

I do not have a legend. But I think both the Equinox and Manticore are great on small gold. The Deus2 not so much, if your hunting wet sand/water. If I was starting new with what I know. It would be the Manticore. It is much easier to run than the D2 and it is better on gold chains [and it is not even close] Way less iron wrap-around in general and the Manticore runs quieter with equal to better depth than the D2.

It wasn't that they should have delayed the Manticore further, the good business sense thing to do would be to get the coils ready while the detector is getting eady, they seem to have a pattern of doing coils later than detectors in most cases as they don't focus on coils perhaps as much as they should. Big money can be made in coils, very big money as Steve has already pointed out entire businesses with reasonable size facilities and dozens of staff have been built entirely around Minelab not being good at making accessory coils, all this is money they could have had. Many of these aftermarket manufacturers only make coils for Minelab detectors. They decided to focus on releasing a Nox 700 and 900 as well as an X-terra rather than the accessory coils for essentially their new flagship. They failed miserably at it all as they didn't have enough stock of anything and still don't. People have been waiting for 6 months for Manticores they'd paid for, not Minelab's fault entirely as dealers should never take money like that but Minelab are the ones that said it's coming, it will be soon etc so they can't not take some of that blame, and then if they did release them in quantity when for example I got mine everyone would have before Christmas when they expected to get them according to Minelabs marketing, we've all seen the Mark Laurie video where he said we should be able to have them by Christmas, and the marketing image saying they'll be by Christmas. Releasing 20 detectors to marketing people masquerading as "testers" doesn't cut it, these people by the looks of it mostly received their detector when it was a finished product right around Christmas, they were not there to test anything, just to put videos on their Youtubes and Facebooks to help with advertising. I guess by labeling them testers it makes their videos have a bit more credibility than as marketers. I'm just waiting patiently for my coils, the first decent snow fall yesterday so my detecting time slows right down over winter/spring as skiing takes over for a until near the years end so I won't be needing them as much soon anyway. On a brighter note and for a bit of a chuckle my wife just got back from a holiday to Australia, I didn't want to go, but while doing some food shopping she discovered they seem to be confused over in Australia as to what a chicken nugget is, perhaps it's inflation's fault with the looming recession but they're really going out on a limb with this one.

Got more gold today on the local North Saskatchewan River. I ran the Geo Highbanker at about 8 degrees and it worked flawlessly! I also dug up a relic, a fossil and lots of petrified wood. https://youtu.be/wagfh2yD_ao

Beautiful find. I wonder just how many chains are still in the sand just inches away from being heard. Nice to see that the chain was gold and not modern junk!

I use the NoScript browser plugin. Allows me to decide what scripts run on any site/page. Ghostery is also a good plugin. There are a lot of poorly implemented scripts that can cause crashes and hangups.

Jeeeez thats a lot of coins there almost paid for it! Tarscacci is single frequency and it is deep RR

It's happening on my Ipad but not on my apple desk top both use safari..thought it was something on my end that I may have did. The post area on the Ipad is just a little thin box you cant open up... strick

I still have a Eagle 2 SL 90 like the one on that catalog cover. What a great machine that was when it came out. It's still a great machine for land hunting if the targets are 8" or shallower. It was pretty worthless at a salt water beach in the wet sand or water though. The 6000 DI Pro machine was no slouch either. IMO the best of the analog all-around machines.

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Yeah, Fisher existed for over 20 years before Garrett even got into business in the 50s. Metal detecting technology became mature around 1990, especially VLF. Anything made since then is still halfway decent. For point of reference, the 50 kHz White’s Goldmaster II came out in 1990 (15 - 19 kHz was standard before that), and the Minelab SD 2000 in 1995. But from 1960 until 1990 huge advances were being made on a regular basis, and I’m talking just basics like ground balance, and discrimination. There are a few interesting models from the 1980s, like the 19 kHz Gold Bug in 1986, but most models made before 1990 are dinosaurs by todays standards. For a look at the state of the art in 1990, see this 1990 White’s catalog. White’s at the time was making cutting edge product, second to none really, including the first digital models from any manufacturer. People would be surprised if they ran a Goldmaster 2 against any of the current crop of VLF nugget detectors… very little has changed there in 30 years! The coin detectors from Compass, Fisher, Garrett, Tesoro, and White’s were also pretty decent, though nothing like modern multifrequency existed. PI nugget detecting did not exist yet either, and despite early efforts from Eric Foster it was not until Minelab came along in the latter half of the decade with the SD series that things really happened there.

Hit a park yesterday...it was fun playing in the mud... came home soaked and dirty but with a smile on my face. Look at the color on that little ring. It holds acid up to 22k for about an hour and I don't have acid that goes higher then that so I'm thinking its between 18 and 20K...it was smashed by the mower so I heated it a little and straightened it out on the mandrel. The wife wants that one so I'll be taking it to the jeweler so he can doctor it up. The pendant is 14k stamped and acid tests. If you have a M-Core dig those 13s and 18's you might get a nice surprise. strick

@Zincoln What is the Acidmagic marketed for in the hardware stores? I have not seen that brand name locally.