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The relic and coin forum has been pretty quiet the last couple of days other than the recent comments on Geologyhounds interesting topic so I decided to post this..Certainly not anything even remotely close to writing home about here but I got around to crawling under a house in my hometown anticipating finding some embossed local saloon and or pharmacy bottles but no luck there.The long and short of it though is that there was plenty of room to detect under the front porch and around the crawl hole. So anyway I lucked onto a little spill of Liberty tickles and a trashed IHP and a few other goodies. The Dates On The Nickels 1886 1902 1904 And 1905 Not Sure About The IHP? Coat Hook? The Lucky Pack Is Pretty Cool.

In the same spirit as CPT_Ghostlight's posts, I have had two hunts this week with Deus 2 version 1.0. These were coin and jewelry hunts so nothing special, just getting used to a few of the differences between 0.71 and 1.0 during hunts. I have usually used silencer on 0, bottle cap 1 and iron volume on 3 in my Square Wave custom 5 tone USA coin program based on Sensitive. In version 1.0 the changes XP made have made it necessary for me to run silencer 1 or 2, bottle cap 1 and iron volume on default 7. I also have been trying out Hi Square Wave audio since is seems to be more reactive and modulated than Square Wave. Today I had a hunt at a public school scrape off that also shared a public park. All of it is being sold for new housing. There was aluminum trash, nails, bolts, nuts, and all of the other stuff one finds at a scrape off. So tons of aluminum and iron trash. On top of that, this iron rich dirt was damp and was maxing out the iron mineralization meter.. I had never hunted this site. I did not know what to expect. I just wanted to see if Deus 2 with 9" coil and version 1.0 software running Sensitive 5 tone Hi Square audio with disc 10, bottle cap 1, notch OFF, silencer 1, sensitivity 95, frequency max 40 kHz, iron volume 7, reactivity 2 to 2.5, audio response 4, audio filter 0, Fe TID ON could find some decent mid and high conductors without too much iron falsing. In these kind of dirt conditions running silencer too high is a bad idea and so is running bottle cap reject set too high. Ground mineralization masking becomes an issue. So I was willing to deal with some iron falsing in the hope of getting enough accurate audio and target ID information to make a dig/no dig decision on mid and high conductors. I dug 5 deep rusty nails, 2 big deep rusty bolts and couple of golf ball sized deep rusty iron blobs. By deep, I mean these targets were at least 8" deep and they had iron and mid to high tone audio responses and accompanying numbers. I also dug about 25 pull tabs on purpose hoping for gold!!!!! The rest of the targets are in the photo. Many of these targets had nails and aluminum trash very close by or in the hole with them. The oldest wheat penny was a 1917. There is also a 1935 New Mexico copper 5 mill tax token, a silver/turquoise ring, titanium ring and a hammered copper ring. The only shallow targets were the crusty zinc pennies. The rest of these targets were in the 4" to 8" deep range. Basically, I had no problems distinguishing ferrous from non ferrous and aluminum trash from good non-ferrous targets during this hunt. I really like Hi Square tones so far.

Hey Everyone; After a minimal amount of testing in my backyard, I removed certain filters and felt more comfortable running the machine in its more natural/raw form. There were only a couple of settings of concern for me. First, I placed a silver dime between 2 square nails. The nails were masking the coin so I moved the settings to zero. Once set to zero, the signal/tone of the dime was much improved. I moved on to the Off-Set settings and swung over several denominations of coins. I didn’t care for the tones either so I set them to zero as well. I made a few more adjustments and headed off to one of the most trashy and over-hunted parks in L.A. for a trial run with this new V1.0. I was not expecting much but I did better than expected for 2.5 hours pounding the dirt. Adjustments to the General mode were made to the following; Factory; disc, iron volume, audio response, reactivity, B Caps, notch Sens 98 Silencer 0 Off-Set 0 Full Tones > first 4 bins volume set to 5 Last bin volume at 10 4th bin scale up to 87 PWM audio 40 khz max With the first 4 bins at volume 5, I could hear the targets under my feet but they were soft to the ears. On the 5th bin at volume 10, high conductors were clear from VDI of 88 and above. The tones of the bottle caps and pull tabs were so slight that they were basically non-existent so I didn’t dig any. I did dig a few rusted nails and old iron objects, which was to be expected though since they run up in the high conductor scale. A number of pennies (memorials & wheats) came in at VDI’s in the low to mid 90’s….same VDI as silver. A couple of clad quarters came in low 90’s, where in V.71 they would come in at 94-96. I dug a faint whisper wheatie at a measured 9” which I was impressed with considering masking and the amount of trash at this old dirt park. There were also a number of clear high conductor signals that would disappear once I removed the plug. It seems to me that the V1.0 update has scaled up or down on VDI and erratic from one coin to another which had me somewhat disappointed. It definitely differs from its performance of the V.71. At this point in time, I can’t say which software is better over the other. But all in all, based on these settings, the ground was quiet and made for a pleasant and successful hunt....3 silvers and 14 wheats I’m looking forward to my next hunt with the same settings in HC Mode.

I know that for me, it's always an expensive lesson to learn what I like and what works - for me! You can read forums and specs, watch videos and other research endlessly, but in the end, it comes down to trying something out for yourself. This is the way it is for all of my hobbies. Buying and selling until I find what fits. To that end, I wouldn't sweat the deal you made. You may find that you love the current detector, or you may find that it isn't the one that works for you. In that case, sell and buy again. In the end, you'll probably lose some money but at least in my opinion, it's worth it to find the machine that is right for you.

I'm testing it on my iron field and works perfectly for me! Is a lot better with better audio. One minus - I think is slightly slower at signal processing... but audio and unmasking and stability are better! Also, iron falsing is lower. Huge progress!

BTW, for anyone wanting to sew an additional attachment point on anything to snap things too, DON'T USE "D" RINGS! D Rings suck. They have a tendency to turn when you put weight on them and they end up hanging just like the letter "D" when they should hang like a "U". So what I have learned is the best attachment point to use is a plain old round piece of plastic. A circular piece of plastic is perfect, it can turn all it wants and there is no wrong way. Doc

I find the audio filter should be used with caution. Higher levels 3-5 take the iron buzz out of the deep targets, let's say ground saturation at depth. Also I have been told higher levels can offer advantages when hunting in the surf. The downside is higher levels can soften iron signals and you may be fooled into thinking they are good targets. Also shallow targets can sound a little wooly. Lower levels 0-2 can give better iron identification, as they are "pure" unfiltered signals. Lower levels are best for iron contaminated sites, I find my go-to settings are mostly 0-1 for UK inland. But I have some deep pasture and will be testing higher levels once the grass is cut. I would love to hear your thoughts. Hope this helps Gary

Apologies for any spelling mistakes. The touch screen on this is a nightmare. STARTING OUT The thought of prospecting for natural gold had always appealed to me long before I actually went out into the field and did it. You want to get a quick buck, then go put a $ in a vegas slot machine, as you have more chance with that. On the other hand if you want to pull your hair out, then why not come to Bonny scotland for some prospecting. In truth, panning for gold really is nothing more than a hobby I’ve took up. Don’t get me wrong, there are still good nuggets to be found if one is prepared to put in the work, and of course, if the gods decide. Starting out with just a pan and digging tool, Just trying to find that one elusive speck of gold was a hair pulling time. I spent weeks and weeks without success. Don’t get wrong I had plenty of yellow stuff in my pans. I’m not sure what it was but it wasn’t gold. I went so long without finding any that I began to question wether there was even gold in the area. The day I finally found gold was a day on which I had zero expectations that I would find any. I stopped the van at a very popular car park not 6yds from the stream, an area that had obviously been panned out by the folk who didn’t want to put much effort into their hobby, and eureka! I found three tiny specks. I hadn’t gone into my new hobby totally blind, as i had watched enough videos and read up on the subject for a time before I actually went on that first session, so after trying to find gold in the areas I thought might produce some and failing, to find it virtually under my feet in a very very popular spot…….. well that’s just bloomin typical😂. To find those three little specks on that day was perfect timing, because I don’t know if I was on the verge of giving up because that’s just not in my genes, But I was certainly fed up to a serious point. BUILDING MY ARSENAL Ok I don’t have much money, the thought of being able to purchase a gold detector will probably remain a pipe dream forever, but there’s one thing I have in abundance, and that’s work ethic. This was instilled in me by my brother during my career in roofing. His motto was that it didn’t matter what tools one had if they didn’t gave the work ethic to use them. This attitude helped no end when it came to choosing the tools I needed, not the too,so I wanted. I wanted a high banker, I wanted a mechanical digger, hey! Let’s just open a quarry haha!. Well what I purchased was a gravel pump and a classifier, those were of utmost importance and allowed me to use muscle power more economically. I began finding gold with every session, and quickly realised that picking tiny specks, and the odd flake out the pan with tweezers and putting them in a vial just wasn’t good, so the next thing I bought was a snuffer bottle. I was learning and adapting as I went, until eventually I got a sluice box. The sluice was an obvious game changer, but I had my doubts that it would catch the gold. I settled my mind by chucking in the gold I had previously found. I admit this was taking a big chance, well it did at the time, but I needn’t have worried, as the gold sank quickly onto the top of the sluice, I don’t think it even travelled to the following ripple. My mind was put to rest and now I try to set the sluice to run as fast as possible. Maybe I have lost some specks, but as the age old saying goes “out of sight, out of mind. I now have what I deem necessary, including some crevicing tools. LEARNING THE AREA OF WANLOCKHEAD AND THE LEADHILLS There is just too much to remember, so instead I have put on the link below. This is an interesting read into the geology of the area i prospect in the lowther hills district. https://webapps.bgs.ac.uk/Memoirs/docs/B06088.html WHAT IVE LEARNED ON A PERSONAL LEVEL Well first of all I have learned to put the work in if I want to find gold, and even then it isn’t much. To put things into perspective, in the 13 months I’ve been prospecting I have found just under one and a half grams. There is a plus side however. Firstly the gold is very pure, and secondly, and this seems to be running parallel to the experience I have in prospecting, the gold is getting bigger. Certain things have caught me out in the past that I have learned from, like there’s no gold under the false bedrock, something that took me ages to accept. I now look for where the bedrock reaches the surface of the streams, instead of trying to dig down to it, because sometimes the bedrock can’t be reached by this method. I have learned to spot the bedrock in the hills, and I can see where it is close to the surface. Something that I’ve also noticed is that most fellow panners concentrate on where the water enters the pools, totally ignoring the tails where the finer gold accumulates. I’ve also learned to stop looking at the streams as they are, and I now look at where they run during flood, even where they used to run but don’t anymore. Only one year in prospecting isn’t much experience, but putting my limited knowledge to work has even found me a couple of rare pickers, so I’m on the right track. I’m getting better and only the other day I reached the dizzy heights where I found 0.416g, and considering I only managed 1.082g up til then I would say that’s a considerable step up in my finds. below are three pickers I’ve found recently. I say three because the top and bottom pieces are one picker broke in half. looks just like a flower when pushed together. Thanks for taking the time to read about my early days in prospecting 🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🥃 cheers ian.

This YouTube shows the work done, the effort put in by the gold diggers and the change to the environment that occurred during the 1850 - 1890 ......LINK.... for video below.

Thanks for your thoughts guys, yes XP are aware some people are not comfortable with the new platform, and I get that. However it needs to be made clear that XP have also received overwhelming positive feedback. Recently I have seen videos where the D2 has clearly been set up to fail, sadly in this new world of social media negativity and drama will get more clicks than positivity. Some have limited knowledge having only used the update for a few days, Audio Response 7, Sensitivity 99, graphic equalizer not working (It is only activated with the headphones connected)......the list goes on. it's a new platform and will take a little time to master. I hope XP can find some middle ground with the next update to keep everyone happy. Once again thanks for your thoughts guys.

I am with you there Jeff. Half these people that are complaining just tried V1.0 once, found it to be "different" , and have not bothered to put some effort into learning the new features and are rushing to judgement. I am sure V1.0 isn't perfect and V1.1 will "fix" a few things, but geesh, some folks need to take a breath and calm down. Maybe focus on the positives...of which there are many in V1.0.

Tax token was from 1935 to 1941. Since I rarely have the opportunity to use default settings on any of these latest SMF detectors, I spend some time before I go our for the first hunts with them, trying to get an idea about settings. It was pretty obvious that version 1.0's default silencer setting of 2 was more aggressive and at least in my dirt, it acted like a much higher silencer setting using version 0.71. Also, the previous default iron bias setting of 3 using 0.71 was not going to work well for me and my hearing. For me, it was all about learning what XP had given me to work with and not some kind of major flaw or stupidity on the part of XP. People need to try out these new settings parameters if they do the software update instead of getting involved in a bunch of speculation. Then there are the people that don't even own a Deus 2 that are fueling the fire. The insensitivity of Goldfield that I and others have well documented......that's another story.

Yes, Bashma was right, Nokta changed my device and sent a new unit for free

Getting down to the river, I spotted a family of geese, who spotted me at the same time. They observed me for a while, then decided it was safe to pass by. I unofficially hired them as my "CLAIM" guards, to keep others away. I brought along my metal detector, as I sometimes do, to unwind a bit from all the digging. Due to the heat and smoke, I choose to screen my concentrates before feeding them into my California mini. I then find a cooler spot in the shade to sit down on an empty bucket and process them in my highbanker. The smoke was real bad from numerous surrounding fires, with advisories in the news to stay indoors or wear masks outdoors. A stark reminder of covid. The smoke creates different sun sets, often times turning it to a red, bleeding sun. Here's a couple of interesting finds. Metal detecting with my Garrett APEX, I dug this token or coin with an elephant on one side, with some sort of numeric table on the reverse. When screening buckets, I always stack my buckets two high, so as to not bend over as much, maintaining a straight back while screening the material. Because the gravel is closer to my eyes while screening, I get a closer look for interesting rocks for tumbling. I managed to eye-ball this beautiful rock fossil with some sort of plant imbedded it. Here's the gold I got after 8 5 gallon buckets.

This would be a major violation of anti-competitive laws. If it was in writing, some lawyers may end up gainfully employed.

Click on the videos posted by Zord earlier and you will get an idea. Basically folks are complaining that going from a 1 to 2 setting on silencer will result in significant masking of mid-conductive, non-ferrous targets co-located with nails in the same plane and above the target in the direction of swing negating fast reactivity settings. Silencer appears on the surface to be a lot more aggressive than the same silencer setting on ver 0.71. I postulated that it was XP's aggressive response to iron falsing complaints with ver 0.71. To be fair, Silencer range of adjustment was expanded to 7 from 5. With a larger range of adjustment, people are understandably thinking that would also translate into a more gradual increase in filtering effects as you make step change increases in the silencer filter vs. what is being observed. I think some time is needed to fully vet these changes before making knee jerk hyperbolic claims of unsuitability of this release. There may indeed be needed near-termtweaks to ver 1.0 at the end of the day, but let's get through the growing pains and see what shakes out to be real show stopper issues. So far I haven't seen anything that is a serious flaw or that can't be worked around.

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June 11 2002 We all took turns on watch but there wasn’t much left on the mountain to sabotage except more of the layflat hose and the tom. We got up and running before noon and Jacob had weighed up yesterday’s work. We had an ounce. The weather was hot, dry, and dusty. I had to fight the urge to have a cold beer later in the afternoon. We worked the day without incident and the reliable old tom processed 28 yards of pay gravel. Jacob took a look at it and panned a bit of the cons which seemed to be loaded with coarse gold. He said we might have hit a honey hole in the gravels. We sure were hoping so as we all needed to see more gold. After supper we were all sitting around the campfire except for Vern who went up on first night watch. Jacob was in a rare mood and drinking whisky and rolling smokes. He told us he was going to shoot the next hooligan who messed with our equipment. I think he actually meant it but hoped that would not happen. He said he didn’t care as he had led a long life and was ready for his time to come to an end some day. I knew what he was talking about as he had confided in me previously but the crew knew nothing. TO BE CONTINUED ...........................

That is one of the better videos I've seen as the screens were so clear and easy to see, often in videos people try show the screen but it's so hard to see. A good demonstration of the 3 detectors on the target, I liked how stable the 900 ran in the video. I hope XP can resolve that, surely they can it just hasn't been a focus yet I guess, hopefully they're not just holding it back to keep sales of the ORX and Deus 1 going which are clearly better than the Deus 2 for prospecting, not only because of the lack of small gold sensitivity but also because they have the better coil with the 9.5 x 5 HF coil.

I think in general people jump to conclusions to quickly when they get anything new. I've done it myself. I used version 1.0 a few hours on Sunday and after making some adjustments to a few programs I really didn't see any real issues with the update. In fact there were quite a few things I really liked over version .71. People need to use the new version 1.0 at least a good 50 hours in my opinion before they make any rash decisions about it's performance. Obviously it's going to perform different from .71 and is going to take some getting used to.

Welcome to the forum. Nothing at all wrong with the fully submersible Xterra Pro. Anyone that can’t do well with one needs a new hobby. Be happy and go detecting.

Quite a bit has changed, Glenn. With a couple of hunts so far, I can tell that the Silencer is more aggressive, the silver range seems to have been expanded so TIDs are different, Audio response is more aggressive as well, pinpoint seems a little more accurate and doesn't blow your ears out, you can now set the volume level for each tone segment even in Full Tones, you can turn the Iron TID on or off, High Sqr Tones has been added which is awesome, of course you know about the top Frequency can be set at 14K, 24K, or 40K for any program except Deus Mono, they added an Audio Filter to smooth out spikey high tones. The main areas I had to change were the Silencer, Iron Volume, and Audio Response. I've been experimenting with the Frequency Max settings as well.

What David showed in one of his comparison videos was that running 1.0 and 0.71 Fast program with both having a silencer setting of 2 gave very different results. Does that mean that 1.0 is worse than 0.71 for target separation? Or does it mean that silencer setting of 2 using version 1.0 is clearly not the same amount of filtering as silencer setting of 2 using 0.71?

Great hunt, Doc, well done! With Black Widows and Brown Reluse spiders on the rise around here, I think I'll pass on crawling under a house without a hazmat suit! 😏

I see that sharpshooter has received a response from XP on the silencer and are now aware of the issue. He says stay tuned. It seems the old adage you can please some of the people some of the time but you can’t please all the people all the time applies with the new update. Seems as if most are dwelling on the negatives and not the positives. Most, but not all. I guess the physicist just shake their heads when a layman such as myself complains not knowing, comprehending or understanding the complexity of such a miraculous work as the Deus ll. Give XP a break.

I never rely on separation static tests , because they are not reliable for me . As I already said the results from the field can be opposite from the static home test results . For example a Vanquish is better than a Deus on the separation test I did at home , where it is obvious that a Deus ( 1 or 2 ) outperforms a Vanquish in the irons in the field . Long story short I only trust field tests for separation assessments .. At least 10 or 20 hours in the field , then not only a 2mns video in a kitchen ... 🙂 I havent done the V1.0 update btw , too busy at work for the moment ... I will post my results as soon as I have them

LOL, Thank you Gerry, I could have said take the D ring and sew it on yourself. But I said have your wife sew it on to save HER a lot of grief! If you were to try and sew something your wife would have to put up with you asking her where the thread is, where is a needle, what about scissors, what about that little metal cap that goes on your finger to push the needle through? Wife's reply, "You mean thimble you nitwit?" Yeah that's the one! Asking her to thread the needle for you. Then trying to sew it yourself running the needle into your finger and breaking the needle off. Then asking your wife to take you to the quick care to get the needle out. Then driving you home but having to stop at the pharmacy to get the pain medication, while she listens to you whine about how bad the Tetanus shot hurt. Then there is the minimum of two days of not being able to do chores she wants you to do, because you got injured trying to sew on a D ring. So given this scenario, which your wife knows in all probability would be very close to the truth of what would happen... Trust me! At some point she's going to say, "Oh for crying out loud, give me that "D" ring and let me sew it on, you'll just make a mess of it." Doc

Ever since Deus 1, I basically stayed away from heavy use of silencer and relied on other methods and tells for falsing iron. As far as I was concerned, with or without silencer. Deus 2 still handled thick iron environments very well.

Updated to Reflect the Ver 1.1 Update released on 25 May 2023. This thread is an attempt to consolidate dispassionate, factual, and unbiased (pro or con) observations and impressions on the XP Deus 2 Ver 1.1 Update. If you have been plugged into the posts here related to this update, it is obvious that it’s definitely a glass partially full, partially empty thing depending on your perspective and how the changes, for better or for worse, affect the way you each use your Deus 2. People who focus solely on specific types of detecting or specific site conditions with their Deus 2 (e.g., beach and water hunters vs. park coin shooters vs. hot dirt relic hunters vs. gold prospectors vs. those detecting in highly iron or aluminum polluted sites) will each have different reactions to this update be it elation to ho hum to bitter disappointment. And just to be clear, it’s apparent things have changed beyond the obvious added features touted by XP, no denying that. Also, it’s apparent that long time, identified issues that have existed before even ver 0.71 was released have still not been addressed (e.g., micro gold sensitivity, the clock, high target ID compression). What’s not clear at this stage is the impact (net positive or negative) of the “unexpected” changes and whether the omissions are intentional because XP hasn’t figured out the fix or have it prioritized for a subsequent update. My point is, the forum community is better served, at this point, by level headed assessments and exchanges of factual information and observations. Information that can be usefully disseminated amongst Deus 2 users, rather than knee jerk, emotional, and/or over the top proclamations (good or bad) that just stir the pot or satisfy people’s hidden agendas. That type of commentary does little to help Deus users nor does it help XP get the useful feedback needed to enable addressing improvements in a timely manner. So if you can’t help being significantly biased or hyperbolic in your commentary either because you are an unapologetic XP FanBoy or a perpetual XP basher, please just sit this one out. Also, this is a reminder that Gary Black @Gary XP is a member of DP and drops in to monitor and exchange information with existing and prospective Deus 2 users so if we can keep the discourse civil and to the point, Gary can be a useful resource to shed additional light on what changed with ver 1.0 and a direct conduit back to XP regarding our Ver 1.0 experiences, good and bad, and what else we might like to see that was perhaps broken by or not addressed in Ver 1.0. Have at it. Also, here are links to some useful official information and videos related to the update. V1.1 UPDATE XP would like to express its gratitude to all users for providing valuable feedback following the release of version 1.0. We appreciate your input, and based on your feedback, we are pleased to introduce version 1.1: Bug Fixes: We have successfully resolved the issue of remote control rebooting or WS6 freezing in very rare configurations. Other Improvements: The FE.TID (Ferrous Target display) setting is now enabled by default. If you prefer not to display ferrous target IDs, you can turn off the FE.TID setting. We have made corrections to the SILENCER function in programs P1, P2, P4, P5, and P6. Now, Silencer levels 0, 1, and 2 provide the same rejection as in V0.71, while higher levels from 3 offer better iron rejection. The program 3 SENSI FT uses different Silencer close to V1.0. Notes : - Previous versions 0.6, 0.71, and 1.0 are still available online and accessible thanks to the new updater. - All other new functions and improvements introduced in V1.0, such as Audio Filter, Freq Max, HiSquare audio, Fulltones Offset, fast TID, etc., remain unchanged in V1.1. We encourage you to read detailed information about these features in the documentation below and watch the video by Gary Blackwell. Additionally, we strongly recommend watching the tutorial video below titled "Update Procedure" to guide you through the update process. Thank you once again for your valuable feedback and continuous support! The XP team What's new in Version 1.0: FULL TONES (DISCRI > EXPERT) DISCRIMINATION=TONE BREAK Values below the discrimination level, such as the ground and iron, are now audible without having to lower the discrimination to -6.4. The discrimination setting acts as a "tone break," and the Iron Volume setting adjusts the volume of ground and iron below the discrimination level. OFFSET-FT (FULLTONES > EXPERT) Shifts the audio frequency to the high tone of the first targets with a signature just above the Discrimination level, in order to easily differentiate them audibly from iron: 0=disabled OFFSET. 5=default setting allowing a first level of offset to the high tone of the first non-ferrous targets. 10=more pronounced offset. 40 (max) = all targets above the discrimination level will produce the same high-pitched sound. Full Tones -TONE VOLUME (FULLTONES > EXPERT) Configures the tone breaks and volume levels of 5 conductivity ranges of the Full Tones in order to prioritize certain target ranges. TONE VOLUME (MENU > DISCRI > EXPERT > TONES > EXPERT) Adjusts the individual volume of each tone on 11 levels to attenuate certain target ranges and prioritize others. FREQUENCY MAX (MENU > FREQ MAX) Limits the maximum high frequency used in the multifrequency spectrum FMF to 40kHz, 24kHz or 14kHz for each program. Reducing the Max Frequency improves ground stability and iron discrimination. This also reduces sensitivity to weak conductors (T.ID 25-50) and the ability to accept coins mixed with nails or heavily mineralized soil. For example, program 1 GENERAL coupled with a Max Frequency of 14khz (4-14khz spectrum) is more suitable for locating high conductive targets (silver coins) through aluminum foil, compared to the default band up to 40khz. Note: The frequency shift and auto frequency scan have been moved to the Max Frequency sub-menu. AUDIO FILTER (OPTION > AUDIO) Cleans up the audio and sounds smoother, less instability, particularly at depth, choosing the correct Audio Filter for your search area can gain a few extra centimeters of performance. On clean beaches or clean open ground, higher levels from 2 to 5 will be interesting. In polluted iron environments, lower levels from 0 to 2 will retain enough nuances in the iron feedback to better recognize Ferrous and Non-Ferrous targets. At 0, this audio filter is disabled. HI-SQUARE AUDIO TYPE (OPTION > AUDIO > AUDIO TYPE) This new audio type has a richer and clearer harmonic content than the SQUARE Audio Type and can very often help identify deep quiet targets. In Pitch mode, strong targets close to the coil will be less sharp and softened compared to SQUARE, in order to better identify deep targets without saturating your hearing with close and strong signals. FASTER T.ID The target ID (T.ID) display now updates faster, so that the ID of a ferrous target does not linger on a non-ferrous target. Also, adjust the FE T.ID setting to OFF to favor the display of non-ferrous targets. FE T.ID (OPTION > CONFIG > ON/OFF) FE T.ID = ON: Displays the ID of ferrous targets. FE T.ID = OFF: Will not display the ID of ferrous targets but only targets with an ID value higher than the discrimination setting (even if you keep the Iron Volume). In iron-polluted environments, set FE T.ID to OFF to focus on the display of non-ferrous targets. SILENCER (DISCRI > EXPERT) Now more effective and staggered with 8 levels from 0 to 7. With the silencer set to levels 2-3, difficult ferrous targets displaying a high ID and generating high-pitched tones will be better eliminated. If you want to further improve the discrimination of ferrous targets, consider: - Increasing the Silencer to 3, 4, 5... - Increasing the discrimination level to 8-10. - Use the B.caps reject (rejecting ferrous and large iron capsules) - Reducing the Max Frequency to 24 or 14kHz OTHER Program 1-GENERAL Program 1-General now uses 2 tones and the Big T.ID display mode as default. Its reactivity is slightly reduced from 2.5 to 2 to offer you more performance in general use on less polluted ground. Multi Notch and Ground menu is now available on the WS6 The Multi-Notch as well as the Ground menu with its all-metal mode are now present on the WS6 Master.

I’ve been watching Paystreak’s videos lately and he’s been hitting the totlots. I’ll say this right off the bat, I’m not a big fan of hunting totlots, but I decided I would get up early this morning and hit the one at the local park. This park had an old house on it at one time and I’ve dug some nice relics here along with two standing liberty quarters. All I got from the totlot was a zincoln and a stainless watch band clasp. Since I was there early and there wasn’t many people there, I decided to hit an area near the office building where I had found other relics in past hunts. This time I slowed down and concentrated on a small area right next to the deck of the office building. I was using my D2 in sensitive full tones with reactivity at 2.5, silencer at 1 and sensitivity at 95. Wasn’t long before I got deep signal ringing up in the low 80s. About 7” down was the military button. Not long after that I got another deep signal ringing up in the 90s. I thought for sure it was going to be a silver dime, but it turned out to be an old wide band tiny ring…about the size of a dime. A little later I got the buckle which was the deepest find of the morning at around 8” or so.

I have started a DP XP Deus 2 Version 1.0 thread to centrally collect findings and assessments of version 1.0:

Thanks for your support guys, I will always try to help whenever possible.

That helps nail down a date range minimum lower limit for the site, IMO. (Exception could be if this was a "show-and-tell" item from Grandma's droor. 😁) A good find in its own right, regardless. I'm even more optimistic that there are silvers awaiting if you can just get back there before it's too late.

Those are great! I found a 1952 Ben half at the entrance to a crawlspace, I'm claustrophobic so I won't go under but I'm glad you did. I have never found those year nickles.

That's the third 1886 Liberty Head ("V-") Nickel posted on the forum in the past few months. No wonder they are considered scarce/key -- they're all hiding in the ground! Unfortunately it looks like yours is definitely "the worse for the wear." Still fun (for me anyway) to find a key or semi-key coin regardless of the condition. Permissions may be the last of the fertile ground in the USA. Hope you get more of them.

Hey Rick, sounds like you have been there and done that? No mummified rats or cats but yeah lots of spiders. As the old saying goes I'm getting a little too old for that s---t! I have had a bad case of bottle fever lately antique bottles that is lol.

Hey Chase. Thanks for all of you-all's help. I got it. When I got good connectivity, I got it in about 15 minutes. I took laptop, controller, and Ws6 to my sister's. Many of us are living in a third world country. This may be hard for some of you-all to believe, but its true. I have Dish paying 69$ a month just for the internet. I can talk to you fellas. I guess it is worth it for that. Thanks, again

Hey los, F350, and phrunt. I got the download, installed on controller and Ws6.Thanks to everyone for the help. I hope that it will be worth all the effort. I took my laptop to my sisters and got everything completed within 15 minutes. It was connectivity speed. Thanks, again.

Another great product to help the majority of us folks get more hours of hunting time. I've been using your different Bungees on a variety of detectors for years. Heck, Even the Equinox is getting heavy after 4 hrs and having an accessory that does not take up room and does not add any weight...but yet gets me more swings per day...genuine. The only issue with your video Doc. My wife watched it as I was thinking a great gift for her on those rare occasions she'll hunt. As soon as you mentioned ordering a couple D rings and having "the wife sew it on", boy...from there it went down hill real fast.🤔 Actually, Since I recommend, I use and I sell the Ultra Swingy Thingy...some guy named Doc... makes. I don't have to ask the wife to sew any D rings, that fancy kit already has them on it. Keep making those great detecting accessories we all use and enjoy. If it wasn't for guys like you, we'd have duct tape and rubber bands all over our gear.

The Versa sounds versatile. El Nino, you really need to encourage Rutus to try an expand into the US and Australia/NZ markets 🙂

In other words apply the old Army approach, ”Train as you fight.” 😉

People who perennially play with backyard boxes and desktop coffee cups are great. But how about some actual detecting and finds... You swing from one extreme to the other it's hard to take what you say with any seriousness. One moment you're in "heaven" with the new Ver 1.0 audio, the next moment Ver 1.0 is "useless" because of a desktop test of an arcane expert setting under one specific condition. You cherry pick video air tests with tailored setups yet ignore real world results here and here. So which is more "ridiculous"? Don't get me wrong. It's good to get the word out there that it appears the silencer behaves differently, perhsps more aggressively, on ver 1.0 - presumably XP's response to the complaints of iron falsing (which neither of these test videos address, btw). It doesn't make Ver 1 useless, it just proves the timeless fact of life that if you use a filter to address one issue you may impact performance. It's called balancing tradeoffs and the informed and savvy detectorist knows when silencer is of benefit and when it is not. The demonstration of the less aggressive silencer on ver .71 only showed the difference in masking but did not show if the ver 0.71 silencer was effective at mitigating iron falsing, which is it's purpose. Based on the numerous complaints regarding falsing on ver 0.71, I suspect it was inadequate at what it was designed to mitigate. Frankly, if you want to be sure a legit target is not masked by a filter setting under an extreme case of iron co-location, then turn the Silencer off. If falsing is ruining your hunt, turn silencer on and take your chances. It's a detectorists judgment call not a magic wand. Simple.

I'm certainly not seeing 1.0 as useless and more specifically that the silencer has a "major problem" or that the video has even proven the silencer to be a problem at this stage. Holding out judgement until I form my own opinions based on real world situations and experience which is going to take hundreds of hours of swing time. I certainly don't want XP making knee jerk mods to this update because of some nails sitting on top of a coffee cup on someone's desk. Anyway, simple solution, roll back to your beloved ver 0.71 until the dust settles and monitor whether XP feels a change is needed.

NC, back with the silvah!!! Nice. 👍 I've hit tot lots in campgrounds, lots of clad, a toe ring now and again, and earrings. Hot Wheels and other toys too. That's about it 🤷‍♂️ However, the grandkids love the toys and kiddie jewelry, one time I scored a $100 Disney tiara that went over well, granddaughter still wears it. 😀

If it's been mentioned already sorry, but the best detecting video/ show by far is the british comedy series Detectorists written and directed by Mackenzie Crook, starring him and Toby Jones, both excellent actors. Crook is a detectorist himself and his observations on what we do are both funny and inciteful, well worth watching for anyone on this forum !

It’s only an air test did at home, I have taken advantage from the fact that wife isn’t here and my daughter doesn’t care! A low conductor below a high mineralized hematite stone to understand how and how much audio filter can improve detection on mineralized ground. Well, according to this test, audio filter works not only to amplify weaker deep signals and there is a big difference between audio filter 5 versus 1 and 2 but also 3-4 and obviously 0. Settings: prog.2 with disc 5, sensitivity 95, iron volume 5, audio response 5, 3 tones high square, square and PWM, silencer 2, no bottle cap and notch. In Pitch and with 2 only tones signal would have been stronger. 11”, 9” and 13” coils. Also big coil passed test with flying colors. I’m happy for the result . Look forward to go on the field!

Second that.

My air test results with 85 white gold yellow gold men’s and women’s bands and diamond rings yielded (18) rings in the 60 > 69 TID range. 0@60, 1@61, 4@62, 0@63, 4@64 6@65, 0@66, 1@67, 2@68, 0@69. The largest concentration of rings (50) fell in the 40>59 range. 5 pig rings fell in 84 & 85 range. This was done indoors, Beach 24kHz 11” coil

At least you were able to get out, put a little time on your machine and clean up from some of the messy folks. Sorry the genuine gold did not show its shiny face, but sometimes gold come in many forms and ways. Thanks for sharing.