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It was so odd this morning, as I was getting ready to duck out for a few hours to get some more trigger time on the D2 with V1.0 before the afternoon storm came in to see if I could tame this beast, when @abenson posted that XP had released V1.1. What?! I read my emails this morning and didn't see anything about an update from XP. So I logged on and sure enough, there it was. I updated my gear and reloaded a couple of my slightly modded programs and hit a nearby park as there was only an hour or two before a rainstorm was coming in. The two programs I loaded up are based on Fast with the following settings: (Note that these are based on settings that have worked well in my particular mineralized soil conditions) Both programs had Max Freq at 40 kHz, Disc= 6.8, Notch= 7-30, Sensitivity= 95, Reactivity= 1.5-2, Audio Response =4, Iron Vol= 7, FE TID= On, High Sqr Audio, but one program in Full Tones with Offset FT= 5, and the other in Pitch. I set Silencer and B.Caps at 0 because I wanted to see if I could. My part of the country (US Rocky Mountains) has a lot of iron and coal in the soil plus it been raining every day for over two weeks so the ground is saturated with water, and in V1.0, the machine ran too hot with Sensitivity in the 90s so I had to use some Silencer and B.Caps just to calm down all the iron noise, and of course there was a lot of falsing. One of the things that I was going to try was running the Audio Response lower than my usual 5 as suggested by Paystreak in a video. I had no idea that Audio Response was one of the things that was beefed up in V1.0 and it turned out that was one of the major contributors to my falsing problems. Instead I was bumping up the Silencer and B.Caps to quiet the machine down and it was just making things worse in my scenarios. When I hit the park today with V1.1, I was amazed how quiet the machine ran with no Silencer and no B.Caps with Audio Response only lowered to the stock 4 setting. Also, with AR at 4, target size and depth was much easier to gauge. Running in Full Tones was glorious again. I really liked Full Tones in V0.71, but it wasn't working well in V1.0 for me (probably because I was running too hot for my conditions), but in V1.1 it's even better! I was able to hear eveything well defined and was able to call almost all of the targets before I dug them. A couple of canslaw pieces fooled me and, to my surprise, a nickel fooled me. I thought it was going to be a pull tab. Speaking of pull tabs, I was able to call almost all of them by lifting the coil and hearing the squeaks in High Sqr Full Tones. Also, checking suspect targets in Deus Mono in 17 kHz with the XY screen correctly exposed all the tabs and iron I encountered today. The two rusty nails I dug were obvious to me so I used them to test out the Silencer and B.Caps functions while still in the ground. Silencer started to break them up at 2 and almost eliminated the falsing entirely at 4-5. B.Cap handled them well at 3, after testing I set them both back to 0 to continue hunting. I didn't find anything earth-shattering today, that wasn't the mission, but I did find a silver bracelet and my first gold coin! Well gold-colored coin anyway... I almost dropped a duece when I saw that in the hole! 🤣 But I will say I'm impressed that XP managed to get these fixes out in just 10 days after releasing V1.0 and I'm sure there's more to come, but now I feel like my D2 is even a better than before, so thank you, XP!

I returned to a site that had yielded an 1886 US V nickel and an 1876 US Seated silver dime about a month ago when I was using the Equinox 900 with 6" coil. I had Deus 2 with version 1.0 software and 9" coil along with the Nokta Legend with 6" coil. The area I was hunting is full of magnetite, square nails, tin of all sizes, all sorts of other iron and sheet lead trash and some other junk within a clearly marked roughly 20'X20' hand stacked stone foundation that is level with the surrounding ground. I was using Deus 2 version 1.0 with a modified Sensitive #2 program set on Pitch tones/Hi Square audio with sensitivity 90, disc at 6.8, silencer 1, no notch, reactivity 2.5, iron volume 7, audio filter 0, bottle cap 0, audio response 3, threshold 4. I wanted to see if I had missed a lot of non-ferrous targets using the Equinox 900 due to having only one hour to hunt this site with it at the time. This time I had 4 hours to hunt. Let me put it this way. That was an extremely unpleasant 2 hours using Deus 2 version 1.0. I struggled to find any non-ferrous targets. I did manage an 1888 S Seated Liberty dime but that was basically by accident. There were so many nails in the area where the Seated dime was recovered that were fooling me, I would have probably missed it. The nails in the photo represent the ones that were in good shape. These were falsing with good non ferrous tones and IDs from the low 70s to high 80s. I left around 40 other nails/tin shards sitting behind a boulder at the site. I had some lunch and then gave the Nokta Legend a try. This was the first time I had used the Legend in this area. I hunted the exact same area. The 6" coil let me get into spots that Deus 2 with 9" coil could not reach so I was able to hunt more thoroughly. This site has boulders, sage and aspen saplings all over it. This difference in coil size did not result in any major finds but it could have. XP....please give us a land based small elliptical coil!!!!! I was using the Field program M2, Pitch tones, disc on G which rejects most ground noise, ferrous/non ferrous tone break 10, sensitivity 23, recovery speed 5, iron filter 1, iron stability 4, bottle cap 0, ground stability 0 using the 6" coil. To my surprise, falsing was minimal, and distinguishing iron targets versus non ferrous targets was not a problem. So when I found the 1891 Seated dime about 5" away from where I recovered the other Seated dime earlier, I knew exactly what I was about to dig since it had great non-ferrous audio and great ID even though it had plenty of man-made and natural iron surrounding it and it was 4" deep in a clay ball. The other non-ferrous targets on the plate were also no problem to distinguish from all of the iron and tin trash. I did not get fooled by any smaller iron targets using the Legend. Ferro-Check was spot on and so were the target IDs. I got home from the hunt and noticed XP had put out update 1.1 to help with the Silencer. Thank God!!!!

I loaded up V1.1 this morning, and took it outside to check it out. Loaded up Relic Reaper, threw a board on the ground and did all sorts of air tests with nails, coins, and other junk I've found including the trusty beer can bottom. The D2 has the 13" elliptical on it. First thing I noticed with the update is that I didn't have to update the WSA II headphones. 🥳 Updating to V1 was all they needed. Observations: I did not have to back off to 24 kHz to mitigate iron falsing. 🥳 Iron is iron is iron now, almost scary for me. Used all sorts of forged, hammered, square, bent nails from the 1600s to the 1800s. I'm using square high tones now for that PWM brassy tone on aluminum. They cleaned full tones up too much. 😭 Some aluminum did an up/down tone passing left to right then right to left in V.71, that's gone. Oh well. Put a silver dime down, got its VDI, and then put a hammered nail on top of it. I'll be darned if it didn't hit cleanly on the coin sweeping over the width of the nail, and even along the length it blipped 91. Disc and notch independently to 10 had no effect other than to quiet the nail. I'll have to try both. I run Relic Reaper at 0 disc and no notch. Want to hear it all. Put a pull tab down, and got a handful of nickels, the pull tab was 62 and the nickels 60. Slightly different less brassy sound with the nickels, lifting didn't have much effect unfortunately. I was glad to see nickels ID'ing differently. Beer can bottom was way brassier sounding, and lifting helped. It also drew a square on the XY screen. Tried a nickel next to the pull tab and was shocked to see both VDI's even with Reactivity at 0. 👍 Wow. I didn't find a huge amount of difference adjusting audio response, but the tones were more defined the higher it went. For some reason Silencer does nothing for me. 🤔 Didn't help with iron at all. Iron was iron. I run bottle caps at 3. Conclusion: Definite improvement over V1, I'm happy to have my Relic program back, real ground experience will sharpen me up. The deer flies got bad so I quit.

What do you think? Art, artifact or randomly created in the environment. I eyeballed this canoe made of what appears to be ironstone last weekend while highbanking beside a river. I am really fascinated with this find. Native peoples have been in this area for over 10,000 years.

Minelab's big safeguard was their ravenous appetite for patents, including obtaining Govt grants to keep them running well beyond normal time limits. Their PI ground tracking, MPS and DVT patents kept all of the opposition out of the field for 2 decades. But now all of these patents have expired, the major players are slowly expanding on new designs, with Garrett and Nokta being the only ones likely to shake up Minelab in any reasonable time-frame. Fisher have a viable design to work with but FTP are (quite frankly) pathetic in their efforts to bring anything timely to market. The big player to watch for is Nokta. Their ability to produce quality at a lower price than Oz or US products will become a major nuisance for all manufacturers.....but a boon for us consumers. The next few years are gonna be interesting....

What has been your experience detecting gossan deposits? From what I understand these are usually hard rock mined underground beneath the exposed “iron cap” but I have found nuggets on the surface of at least one gossan deposit. I’m wondering if it’s worth exploring as a pattern, and what causes the gold to be good at the surface of some of these deposits and not so good at others.

I simply do not understand why the company refuses to engage potential customers on any level. They create web sites that die with no activity and zero updates. They sparodically allow a couple of select users to post results of their hunting but do not follow up in any way. They create small groups of inmpressive videos on a new product and then nothing. Not that they need someone as proactive as Dilek, who is an amazing force, but there are other ways to go to engage your consumer base. Look what Garrett has done with Steve Moore. He is good on camera, ACTUALLY hunts, and posts videos from timt to time. Garrett also engaged Steve on the Axiom. Meanwhile, back at the First Texas ranch, they do...nothing...

Actually after purchasing my first X Pointer Max I liked it so much I ended up purchasing the 2023 model X Pointer Max with the Magic Holster, personally from using both the older version and the new version with the magic holster I like the new 2023 model even more, a few of the things I really like about the new 2023 model I can run the new version on boost sensitivity now with no or very little falsing, I also like that now I can leave it on and re holster it and the new version goes into stand by mode ready to pin point when you remove it from the holster, as far as the buttons they are still hard to push but now with the magic holster that is no longer an issue. Both versions are great pin pointers but the new 2023 model is just a little better in my opinion on a couple of things like not having to fiddle with the button to turn it on and off and now it can be ran at max sensitivity other than those two things both the old version and new 2023 version are basically the same i purchased the 2023 model from Charlene and Andy Sabisch, I can provide you with their phone number if you want to call them I believe the name of their store is https://www.treasurehuntingoutfitters.com/?fbclid=IwAR03mQol7QI3TgwIaxvRseK5dTXYaTeWreo7zASDiMkQkfLRbH-WmG09iNw they are in Pennsylvania now

I am a long time, primarily relic detectorist, but I also coin shoot, and beach hunt. My primary detector is the Deus 2 because of its light weight, versatility, and high speed which enables it to handle iron well and it also does well in hot soil. I think the D2 is more machine than you need and has a high price point, so I am not recommending it but do provide links to further information below. If you want to skip all the detail below let me give you the bottom line up front: AT Pro is not really going to give you any more depth or separation in iron versus your MX7. If the AT Pro is your only consideration, I'd stick with the MX7. If you are interested in a fast detector at a reasonable price point I have two recommendations: Minelab Xterra Pro - fast with adjustable recovery speed and multiple selectable single frequencies <$300 Nokta Legend - fast with adjustable recovery speed and multiple selectable single frequencies and simultaneous multifrequency, currently <$400 If you want to stick with with made in the USA - Consider the Garrett Ace Apex multifrequency. Despite the "Ace" vs. "AT" designation, it has some better features and versatility over the AT Pro including selectable frequencies and multi-frequency which may eek out more targets in your situation than your MX7 but is not as good at handling iron or as fast as the previous two detectors I suggest. If you want to do a deeper dive, read on... As others have mentioned: The AT Pro is a classic and despite being first introduced more than 13 years ago, still gets the job done. But the AT Pro has mediocre recovery speed and is probably not noticeably faster than your MX7 nor is it known for being superior in iron. If the AT Pro is your one and only alternative to the MX7 that you are considering, I recommend you stick with the MX7 (yes I owned an AT Pro but eventually sold it). I too owned an MX Sport, your MX7's waterproof sibling. It had great ground handling and a number of interesting features but at the end of the day, I too was disappointed by its just ok recovery and depth. Add to that, above average weight and below average balance resulting in overall below-average ergonomics. Despite being waterproof and having some rudimentary salt balance capabilities, it was still not very stable in wet salt sand, requiring significant lowering of sensitivity for stable salt beach performance. I am not listing all of this to dump on Whites or the MX series (I still own the classic White's classic relic machine - an MXT) but to provide a frame of reference as to why I eventually sold my MX Sport and moved on to a more modern simultaneous multifrequency machine. Specifically, the Equinox 800. Simultaneous multifrequency provides some advantages associated with ground and salt handling, and also enables more versatility in going after targets because the multifrequency capability evens up the "playing field", eliminating the tendency of single frequency machines to favor either higher or lower conductivity targets as lower frequencies tend to favor higher conductive and large targets like silver or coin caches while higher frequencies tend to favor smaller targets or lower conductivity targets like gold jewelry, nickels, and brass. The key with these features is versatility. The recovery speed, decent target identification, good discrimination and ground handling features makes them great at picking through iron. Since the MX7 and AT Pro/AT Max have hit the streets, there have been a number of multifrequency and also capable single frequency detectors that not only have equivalent features but are also lighter, cheaper, and faster with great user interface features and multiple audio options. i suggest considering these detectors in addition to the AT Pro for their speed and iron handling capabilities. If you are interested in exploring these detectors further, I have broken them down for you and for others who may be interested. I recognize that you will not be using your detector at the beach but note when these are fully submersible primarily to show you they can be operated in the rain. The Detector Prospector Metal Detector Database pages provide detailed information on several detectors released over the past several years. The following breakdown of relatively recent design detectors with significant versatility, performance, and features versus your MX7 (all have built-in wireless audio capability but also speakers) can be explored further by clicking on the detector name links that will take you to the DP Detector Database writeup: Nokta Simplex - Fully Submersible, Single Frequency Machine <$300 Minelab Xterra Pro - Fully Submersible with multiple selectable single frequencies and variable recovery speed settings. Relatively new, but if you want an inexpensive, fast machine with adjustable recovery speed and 3 selectable frequencies, this is a great choice. <$300 Nokta Legend - Fully Submersible Simultaneous Multifrequency Machine and Multiple Selectable Frequencies, has adjustable recovery speed, multiple default search modes set up for park, beach, relic, and gold detecting. Features on par with the Equinox detectos at an amazing price <$400 (Note, first generation design of the Legend is going for~$388 as they start to introduce a lighter weight carbon fiber shaft system which will probably be greater that $400) Garrett Ace Apex - Lightweight, weatherproof Multifrequency Machine with Multiple Selectable Frequencies <$500 Not known for being superior in iron however. Greater than $500 - All of these machines have great iron handling capabilities. Minelab Equinox 600/800 - These fully submersible simultaneous frequency and selectable single frequency detectors have been here for more that 5 years now, were groundbrekaing in terms of but still perform. Their price is coming down with the release of the Minelab 700/900 below. Minelab Equinox 700/900 - Update of the popular Equinox 600/800. XP Deus and XP Orx - Fully wireless with multiple selectable frequencies and high recovery speed that is adjustable. Super light weight. Greater than $1000 - XP machines are know for their best in class iron handling performance. XP Deus 2 and Minelab Manticore HTH and Good Luck and Happy Hunting with whatever machine you finally end up with.

In big business when beholden to shareholders, well, I think that anyone who thinks ethics and morality is job one has rose colored glasses. It's eat or be eaten, and if it's not outright illegal, it will generally get done if it means winning when others lose. Of course such things are not done in writing. They are done at night at a private dinner, or in other "he said she said" deniable ways. I've gone swimming with the sharks myself, and it is not pretty. People are best off not knowing sometimes how the sausage is made, or who is doing what to somebody else in the "boardroom bedroom." At the end of the day it is all just drama and will matter little in whether I find any gold nuggets next week or not.

In a few days I should have the Rutus VERSA for testing... so I will do the tests that interest me... and then I will be able to write more about it... An important element of VERSA testing will also be practical detection on different types of terrain... in Spain... where I will be working for at least 3 months... this year...

I've not noticed it on most gold so maybe it's minerals in your soil and the more you remove the more minerals you eliminate but I have noticed it on some very tiny gold and I just put it down to the more soil in the scoop the less likely the tiny bit of gold is right at the bottom of the scoop, as the soil is gradually removed from the scoop the gold is naturally closer to the bottom of the scoop thereby getting closer to my coil. When it's light dusty soil I always jiggle my scoop around to help the gold work it's way to the bottom of the scoop, this is of course as I'm normally finding very tiny bits and this helps. I have noticed on some Aussies youtube videos that the targets in the scoop brighten up as they remove more and more soil from it, I really don't get that here unless its a very tiny target.

I was using Alter mostly in mild terrain, Only occasionally in high mineralization, I was participating in archeological digs in medieval monastery witch was completely burn in early post medieval, so lot of high mentalization form char coal, crushed bricks and pottery and tons of burned forget nails. detectors could not reach targets deeper than 10 cm... Alter on high reaction (7)was working well ,there was little chatering and falsing from it but it was easy to pick up signals of good targets. For next season of dig I have already Atrex and this one overpefromed all detectors used there. I was literally walking behind nox, D2 and D1 machines and pick up a lot of good signals. I thing rutus make a good job with multifilter ( I was using only single frequency with multifilter and even reaction was not so high 4. I was using 2 coils: mars sniper and 12cm CC). I don't know Versa but I think it will be performing better than Atrex due to bigger choice of frequencies and knowledge that Rutus gain during development of Atrex and Versa, I think ElNino will have more to say about this as he is testing Vesra ( but I guess before official release there will be not much information as Versa software is still in development).

Just to be clear, if you’re just talking Silencer behavior (and the “glitch” introduced by Ver 1.0), correct, the Beach Programs were and are unaffected because their min Silencer settings were not changed by ver 1.0 or 1.1. But obviously all the Beach programs can use the applicable Ver 1.X the enhancements to Full Tones, Expanded Silencer Range, Expanded Iron Volume Range, and Max F adjustments as well as Hi Square and the new Audio Filter Adjustment.

June 12 2002 The night had remained quiet and we got to work shoveling gravel into the tom. When we broke for lunch Jacob had the concentrates all cleaned up and there were 6 ounces of gold in the pan. He grinned and told us to shovel like hell because we were in a sweet spot. If only we had our trommel we could make a real killing I figured. But we went back to work and did the best we could. The heat was relentless. By the end of the day we had processed 35 yards. I figured that to be a very good days work in the heat. We were all worn out. Jacob took a few scoops of the concentrates and told us they were loaded with gold. He said maybe we didn’t need any trommel and had himself a good laugh. The rest of us looked at him and I thought he had gone mad the way he was laughing so hard. Jacob stopped and told us we didn’t seem to understand and that we had hit a jackpot. An area of concentrated gold deposit. Sizeable tonnage. Whatever you want to call it he said. Then he began to laugh some more. He said he’d seen this kind of thing several times on these claims. We might just have ourselves a gold strike. TO BE CONTINUED ...................

I love the old AT Pro. For whatever reason, I end up grabbing it over the CTX and other more capable, but more complicated, detectors. It's just a comfort thing I guess. After a lot of years with it, I can really understand the tones and what they're telling me. I've found silver dimes in the iron with it and the 5x8 coil. The durability is great and being waterproof is a must for me. With all of that being said, if I was just starting out fresh with no equipment and looking for my first detector in today's market, I would certainly go for a multifrequency unit over the AT Pro without a doubt. Technology has moved past it and there are more capable detectors for the same price today. The one thing I would check before buying anything is the availability of aftermarket coils. I have the Nel Attack for the AT Pro and the depth is very impressive. I would make sure that whatever machine you get there are options for a very large coil and a very small coil. Good luck!

In my initial park hunt with V1.1, I noticed a substantial reduction in iron falsing with Silencer and B.Caps at 0. I took the time to test Silencer and B.Caps responses individually on two big rusty nails before I dug them and they're both working better and less agressive in the low numbers. Of course I haven't had the chance to test it in a relic setting yet. That will tell the tale for sure.

It's a lighter metal, probably plated or anodized aluminum. It came up 96-97 on the TID, but I'm sure that's all about the size. 😏

I have a very strong super magnet affixed to the end of my hoe, and once the target is in the cup, I swirl the magnet throughly through the dirt to remove the magnetic materials, magnetite etc., as well as sift the target to the bottom of the cup. This action significantly enhances the signal volume. But then again, removing more and more dirt has the same effect. My conclusion is that mineralization, soil mass, and target orientation all contribute to signal strength. However, I prefer it when a loud signal is indicative of a big nugget! 😏 Hope this helps. HH Jim

I am curious about the little "spoon" also. Perhaps to handle Mercury? The suspender clip is very neat. Nice RF cartridge cases too. .44 Henry? Hopefully V1.1 will get the D2 lined back out. The Legend does very well in the iron. I keep my first Tone break at 7 to help unmask in small ferrous. Nice hunt.

That's my guess too. A half inch can make a big signal response difference on tiny targets. If the flake is floating anywhere up in your scoop and not the absolute bottom, that could be what you are noticing?

Thank you! I just ordered one off their website. $129.95 and free shipping.

It's gold!!! Gold colored aluminum! Great write up, CPT, with comparison and inclusion of settings. 👍

I believe that when you eliminate most of the soil from what the coil would normally see when passing over the gold in the ground, the signal is changed that the detector would normally pick up. When it is in a scoop there is less ground to cover and that will change the response on the detector. With the 800 I have been using, I have made a small test area with lead shot in the ground and I know that the sound I get when I hit the target with the target with the detector is different than when it is out of the ground and in my scoop. That is why I believe that it has to be with the amount of soil that is being passed over the coil. The coil is usually sitting on the ground without being moved side by side like you would be swinging it, but then when moving a small scoop of soil over it it takes into account the ground and the moving scoop. I don't know why it happens but it does.

It's people like you that they quickly rushed out 1.1 for, last thing they want is a heap of warranty claims on WS6's. I'm sure your account problems are a coincidence not a punishment.

You're on their list now buddy no updates for you!!!

Nice job. Green coins are always a good sign for some other goodies to show up.

The reason Minelab got so far ahead with gold detectors is because the competition didn't put the effort in, didn't put the $ into R&D and allowed it to happen which was a big mistake. Where they did always remain competitive was with the VLF's and we can still see that now, Minelab doesn't dominate, they had a boost with the Equinox while others played catch up but it's a neck and neck competition with no clear winner. So do we blame Minelab for their sky high detector prices or do we blame the lazy competitors that didn't take on the challenge? 🙂 Australia was naturally a country where making gold detectors would be something of interest with the large amounts of detectable gold in the country, a country with little to no gold or not as much interest in finding the gold with detectors is unlikely to be the determined one to make such detectors so that maybe why some manufacturers were more motivated than others in the early days of detectors. Now these other companies are looking to play catch up after decades of Minelab having dominance. QED in a way showed it's possible for even a small business run in a garage to make a viable detector to sell to give the market another option with reasonable performance so the jump isn't all that high to get something to market that people will buy if one man with some electronics knowledge and a 3D printer at his disposal can make a detector. Garrett now have their very competitive detector on the market, Fisher are still working towards theirs, Nokta doing what they do best and getting onboard making a Gold Prospecting PI too. Will Minelab always have this dominance? I don't know if they will. Garrett's first real attempt at fighting back isn't being left in the dust so who knows, if they have a second attempt in the future they may overtake, it's possible. It sounds to me Nokta may have some home grown motivation to make gold detectors too, Turkey is the world's nineteenth-largest producer of gold, with output of 1,594koz in 2022, up by 11% on 2021. Turkey, which in the early 2000s was unable to produce even one gram of gold, In 2020 produced 42 tons of gold in 18 active mines despite the pandemic. https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/gold-worth-6-billion-discovered-in-turkey-mining-to-start-within-two-years-282413-2020-12-24

That's how it should have been made, they appeared to work that out with the Manticore. Well done, a proper solution for minimal expense.

This would be a major violation of anti-competitive laws. If it was in writing, some lawyers may end up gainfully employed.

Updated to Reflect the Ver 1.1 Update released on 25 May 2023. This thread is an attempt to consolidate dispassionate, factual, and unbiased (pro or con) observations and impressions on the XP Deus 2 Ver 1.1 Update. If you have been plugged into the posts here related to this update, it is obvious that it’s definitely a glass partially full, partially empty thing depending on your perspective and how the changes, for better or for worse, affect the way you each use your Deus 2. People who focus solely on specific types of detecting or specific site conditions with their Deus 2 (e.g., beach and water hunters vs. park coin shooters vs. hot dirt relic hunters vs. gold prospectors vs. those detecting in highly iron or aluminum polluted sites) will each have different reactions to this update be it elation to ho hum to bitter disappointment. And just to be clear, it’s apparent things have changed beyond the obvious added features touted by XP, no denying that. Also, it’s apparent that long time, identified issues that have existed before even ver 0.71 was released have still not been addressed (e.g., micro gold sensitivity, the clock, high target ID compression). What’s not clear at this stage is the impact (net positive or negative) of the “unexpected” changes and whether the omissions are intentional because XP hasn’t figured out the fix or have it prioritized for a subsequent update. My point is, the forum community is better served, at this point, by level headed assessments and exchanges of factual information and observations. Information that can be usefully disseminated amongst Deus 2 users, rather than knee jerk, emotional, and/or over the top proclamations (good or bad) that just stir the pot or satisfy people’s hidden agendas. That type of commentary does little to help Deus users nor does it help XP get the useful feedback needed to enable addressing improvements in a timely manner. So if you can’t help being significantly biased or hyperbolic in your commentary either because you are an unapologetic XP FanBoy or a perpetual XP basher, please just sit this one out. Also, this is a reminder that Gary Black @Gary XP is a member of DP and drops in to monitor and exchange information with existing and prospective Deus 2 users so if we can keep the discourse civil and to the point, Gary can be a useful resource to shed additional light on what changed with ver 1.0 and a direct conduit back to XP regarding our Ver 1.0 experiences, good and bad, and what else we might like to see that was perhaps broken by or not addressed in Ver 1.0. Have at it. Also, here are links to some useful official information and videos related to the update. V1.1 UPDATE XP would like to express its gratitude to all users for providing valuable feedback following the release of version 1.0. We appreciate your input, and based on your feedback, we are pleased to introduce version 1.1: Bug Fixes: We have successfully resolved the issue of remote control rebooting or WS6 freezing in very rare configurations. Other Improvements: The FE.TID (Ferrous Target display) setting is now enabled by default. If you prefer not to display ferrous target IDs, you can turn off the FE.TID setting. We have made corrections to the SILENCER function in programs P1, P2, P4, P5, and P6. Now, Silencer levels 0, 1, and 2 provide the same rejection as in V0.71, while higher levels from 3 offer better iron rejection. The program 3 SENSI FT uses different Silencer close to V1.0. Notes : - Previous versions 0.6, 0.71, and 1.0 are still available online and accessible thanks to the new updater. - All other new functions and improvements introduced in V1.0, such as Audio Filter, Freq Max, HiSquare audio, Fulltones Offset, fast TID, etc., remain unchanged in V1.1. We encourage you to read detailed information about these features in the documentation below and watch the video by Gary Blackwell. Additionally, we strongly recommend watching the tutorial video below titled "Update Procedure" to guide you through the update process. Thank you once again for your valuable feedback and continuous support! The XP team What's new in Version 1.0: FULL TONES (DISCRI > EXPERT) DISCRIMINATION=TONE BREAK Values below the discrimination level, such as the ground and iron, are now audible without having to lower the discrimination to -6.4. The discrimination setting acts as a "tone break," and the Iron Volume setting adjusts the volume of ground and iron below the discrimination level. OFFSET-FT (FULLTONES > EXPERT) Shifts the audio frequency to the high tone of the first targets with a signature just above the Discrimination level, in order to easily differentiate them audibly from iron: 0=disabled OFFSET. 5=default setting allowing a first level of offset to the high tone of the first non-ferrous targets. 10=more pronounced offset. 40 (max) = all targets above the discrimination level will produce the same high-pitched sound. Full Tones -TONE VOLUME (FULLTONES > EXPERT) Configures the tone breaks and volume levels of 5 conductivity ranges of the Full Tones in order to prioritize certain target ranges. TONE VOLUME (MENU > DISCRI > EXPERT > TONES > EXPERT) Adjusts the individual volume of each tone on 11 levels to attenuate certain target ranges and prioritize others. FREQUENCY MAX (MENU > FREQ MAX) Limits the maximum high frequency used in the multifrequency spectrum FMF to 40kHz, 24kHz or 14kHz for each program. Reducing the Max Frequency improves ground stability and iron discrimination. This also reduces sensitivity to weak conductors (T.ID 25-50) and the ability to accept coins mixed with nails or heavily mineralized soil. For example, program 1 GENERAL coupled with a Max Frequency of 14khz (4-14khz spectrum) is more suitable for locating high conductive targets (silver coins) through aluminum foil, compared to the default band up to 40khz. Note: The frequency shift and auto frequency scan have been moved to the Max Frequency sub-menu. AUDIO FILTER (OPTION > AUDIO) Cleans up the audio and sounds smoother, less instability, particularly at depth, choosing the correct Audio Filter for your search area can gain a few extra centimeters of performance. On clean beaches or clean open ground, higher levels from 2 to 5 will be interesting. In polluted iron environments, lower levels from 0 to 2 will retain enough nuances in the iron feedback to better recognize Ferrous and Non-Ferrous targets. At 0, this audio filter is disabled. HI-SQUARE AUDIO TYPE (OPTION > AUDIO > AUDIO TYPE) This new audio type has a richer and clearer harmonic content than the SQUARE Audio Type and can very often help identify deep quiet targets. In Pitch mode, strong targets close to the coil will be less sharp and softened compared to SQUARE, in order to better identify deep targets without saturating your hearing with close and strong signals. FASTER T.ID The target ID (T.ID) display now updates faster, so that the ID of a ferrous target does not linger on a non-ferrous target. Also, adjust the FE T.ID setting to OFF to favor the display of non-ferrous targets. FE T.ID (OPTION > CONFIG > ON/OFF) FE T.ID = ON: Displays the ID of ferrous targets. FE T.ID = OFF: Will not display the ID of ferrous targets but only targets with an ID value higher than the discrimination setting (even if you keep the Iron Volume). In iron-polluted environments, set FE T.ID to OFF to focus on the display of non-ferrous targets. SILENCER (DISCRI > EXPERT) Now more effective and staggered with 8 levels from 0 to 7. With the silencer set to levels 2-3, difficult ferrous targets displaying a high ID and generating high-pitched tones will be better eliminated. If you want to further improve the discrimination of ferrous targets, consider: - Increasing the Silencer to 3, 4, 5... - Increasing the discrimination level to 8-10. - Use the B.caps reject (rejecting ferrous and large iron capsules) - Reducing the Max Frequency to 24 or 14kHz OTHER Program 1-GENERAL Program 1-General now uses 2 tones and the Big T.ID display mode as default. Its reactivity is slightly reduced from 2.5 to 2 to offer you more performance in general use on less polluted ground. Multi Notch and Ground menu is now available on the WS6 The Multi-Notch as well as the Ground menu with its all-metal mode are now present on the WS6 Master.

Been detecting for 40 + years old bygone Home & Civil war sites are what I like to hunt..also try the Beach scene couple times a year.. Appreciate Steve, Chase and everyone who comments on this forum..

F350 I thought your Reaper was improved in V1.0 using negative Disc. It just might be deadly in V1.10 with a few tweaks.

I have the Equinox 600 and just received a 900 and the 600 has been a great detector. I mainly hunt for old coins and in some pretty nasty spots and the 600 had me shaking my head with some of the recoveries I made. 1 such was a 1790 half Reale with a rusty screw in the same hole. SMF is the way to go! HH Jim Tn

Blacksmiths used cast iron ladles and spoons for handling molten lead. Seems small for that, but it's a possibility.

It could be - that is ALL AUDIO amplifying... so the amount of EMI mixed with noise is going up.

I am spending a week at the beach waiting for the tide to go down. I will post the finds later. While reading the other posts about what is the best detector, I realized why the Tarsacci is the beach machine for me. 1. In mixed mode it gives a very clear dig or don't dig signal. Since I am a simple person, this is all I need. It doesn't matter if it's a penny or a gold ring, if the Tarsacci tells me to dig, I dig. 2. It will reach down 16 inches. In the surf, where the holes are filling in as quickly as I can dig them, I really don't need anything much deeper. Could I use it in the wet sand? Maybe, but how much deeper are the new machines? A half an inch? 3 It is built like a tank. I am pretty rough on my equipment and the Tarsacci has never failed me. 4. It pinpoints spot on when you find a target. The thing I hated about the Nox was the pinpoint function was poor and I would lose targets in the wet sand when they sunk out of sight because I was digging in the wrong place and the hole was filling in. Depth, Accuracy and Rugged. My only complaint is I would like it to be a little lighter, but Dimitar can do that with the next Tarsacci. Some people want accurate vdi numbers and pretty tones. I just want the machine to tell me when and where to dig.

Interesting review. Thank you mate!

Nice hunt and report , CPT. 👍 Very nice!

Ah new here didn't see that sub forum. Question answered.

Very interesting time ahead Codan/Minelab has diversified their assets across a number of areas and will be more flexible to the challenges of the global recession vs the straight detecting companies. Also given the lack of competition in gold could spell troubles for other competitors. I’m glad I live in Oz where even a top end detector can be paid off pretty quickly @$A100 a gram.

To put it crudely,... Minelab have us by the short and curli's. Due to one man who with some mates in a shed in Adelaide put together a metal detector to challenge the big American boys to now being the detector company that totally dominates the scene. Impressive? Hell yes. What is going on now though is any body's guess. It all changed with Codan take over, and how much of the original genius has been retained? Going offshore to produce cheaper would have been abhorrent to the original Minelab crew (and I knew most of them). They were not the sort of team that was out to make huge money, but to prove that good old Aussie ingenuity was as good as the best. All changed now I guess, and no going back to an age of challenge above making the buck.

I’m looking for a new pinpointer to replace my 6 year old TRX (it was replaced once under warranty before Whites became defunct). I had thought about the XP MI6, but I really like the discrimination feature of the Quest and that it detects mainly from the tip like the TRX. I was going to order the pinpointer max, but I see now where the newest 2023 version has the magic holster that turns the pinpointer on and off when removing or replacing it in the magic holster. However, from searching for the newest version, it looks like no one has them in stock. Does anyone know when they’ll become available?

Some of my suggestions and comments. English subtitles also included 😉

Maybe one half of a woman's compact?

I've had a Swingy Thingy in my kit for over 20 years now. Terrific product.

Do we who can not make it up there get to sign up for the prizes, if so sign me up and I will pay the shipping cost.

Wheelchair with tracks should get around that:

I think it was a politician snake and only when you used a stick was it willing to do what you wanted it to do. Good save.