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It was so odd this morning, as I was getting ready to duck out for a few hours to get some more trigger time on the D2 with V1.0 before the afternoon storm came in to see if I could tame this beast, when @abenson posted that XP had released V1.1. What?! I read my emails this morning and didn't see anything about an update from XP. So I logged on and sure enough, there it was. I updated my gear and reloaded a couple of my slightly modded programs and hit a nearby park as there was only an hour or two before a rainstorm was coming in. The two programs I loaded up are based on Fast with the following settings: (Note that these are based on settings that have worked well in my particular mineralized soil conditions) Both programs had Max Freq at 40 kHz, Disc= 6.8, Notch= 7-30, Sensitivity= 95, Reactivity= 1.5-2, Audio Response =4, Iron Vol= 7, FE TID= On, High Sqr Audio, but one program in Full Tones with Offset FT= 5, and the other in Pitch. I set Silencer and B.Caps at 0 because I wanted to see if I could. My part of the country (US Rocky Mountains) has a lot of iron and coal in the soil plus it been raining every day for over two weeks so the ground is saturated with water, and in V1.0, the machine ran too hot with Sensitivity in the 90s so I had to use some Silencer and B.Caps just to calm down all the iron noise, and of course there was a lot of falsing. One of the things that I was going to try was running the Audio Response lower than my usual 5 as suggested by Paystreak in a video. I had no idea that Audio Response was one of the things that was beefed up in V1.0 and it turned out that was one of the major contributors to my falsing problems. Instead I was bumping up the Silencer and B.Caps to quiet the machine down and it was just making things worse in my scenarios. When I hit the park today with V1.1, I was amazed how quiet the machine ran with no Silencer and no B.Caps with Audio Response only lowered to the stock 4 setting. Also, with AR at 4, target size and depth was much easier to gauge. Running in Full Tones was glorious again. I really liked Full Tones in V0.71, but it wasn't working well in V1.0 for me (probably because I was running too hot for my conditions), but in V1.1 it's even better! I was able to hear eveything well defined and was able to call almost all of the targets before I dug them. A couple of canslaw pieces fooled me and, to my surprise, a nickel fooled me. I thought it was going to be a pull tab. Speaking of pull tabs, I was able to call almost all of them by lifting the coil and hearing the squeaks in High Sqr Full Tones. Also, checking suspect targets in Deus Mono in 17 kHz with the XY screen correctly exposed all the tabs and iron I encountered today. The two rusty nails I dug were obvious to me so I used them to test out the Silencer and B.Caps functions while still in the ground. Silencer started to break them up at 2 and almost eliminated the falsing entirely at 4-5. B.Cap handled them well at 3, after testing I set them both back to 0 to continue hunting. I didn't find anything earth-shattering today, that wasn't the mission, but I did find a silver bracelet and my first gold coin! Well gold-colored coin anyway... I almost dropped a duece when I saw that in the hole! 🤣 But I will say I'm impressed that XP managed to get these fixes out in just 10 days after releasing V1.0 and I'm sure there's more to come, but now I feel like my D2 is even a better than before, so thank you, XP!

I returned to a site that had yielded an 1886 US V nickel and an 1876 US Seated silver dime about a month ago when I was using the Equinox 900 with 6" coil. I had Deus 2 with version 1.0 software and 9" coil along with the Nokta Legend with 6" coil. The area I was hunting is full of magnetite, square nails, tin of all sizes, all sorts of other iron and sheet lead trash and some other junk within a clearly marked roughly 20'X20' hand stacked stone foundation that is level with the surrounding ground. I was using Deus 2 version 1.0 with a modified Sensitive #2 program set on Pitch tones/Hi Square audio with sensitivity 90, disc at 6.8, silencer 1, no notch, reactivity 2.5, iron volume 7, audio filter 0, bottle cap 0, audio response 3, threshold 4. I wanted to see if I had missed a lot of non-ferrous targets using the Equinox 900 due to having only one hour to hunt this site with it at the time. This time I had 4 hours to hunt. Let me put it this way. That was an extremely unpleasant 2 hours using Deus 2 version 1.0. I struggled to find any non-ferrous targets. I did manage an 1888 S Seated Liberty dime but that was basically by accident. There were so many nails in the area where the Seated dime was recovered that were fooling me, I would have probably missed it. The nails in the photo represent the ones that were in good shape. These were falsing with good non ferrous tones and IDs from the low 70s to high 80s. I left around 40 other nails/tin shards sitting behind a boulder at the site. I had some lunch and then gave the Nokta Legend a try. This was the first time I had used the Legend in this area. I hunted the exact same area. The 6" coil let me get into spots that Deus 2 with 9" coil could not reach so I was able to hunt more thoroughly. This site has boulders, sage and aspen saplings all over it. This difference in coil size did not result in any major finds but it could have. XP....please give us a land based small elliptical coil!!!!! I was using the Field program M2, Pitch tones, disc on G which rejects most ground noise, ferrous/non ferrous tone break 10, sensitivity 23, recovery speed 5, iron filter 1, iron stability 4, bottle cap 0, ground stability 0 using the 6" coil. To my surprise, falsing was minimal, and distinguishing iron targets versus non ferrous targets was not a problem. So when I found the 1891 Seated dime about 5" away from where I recovered the other Seated dime earlier, I knew exactly what I was about to dig since it had great non-ferrous audio and great ID even though it had plenty of man-made and natural iron surrounding it and it was 4" deep in a clay ball. The other non-ferrous targets on the plate were also no problem to distinguish from all of the iron and tin trash. I did not get fooled by any smaller iron targets using the Legend. Ferro-Check was spot on and so were the target IDs. I got home from the hunt and noticed XP had put out update 1.1 to help with the Silencer. Thank God!!!!

I loaded up V1.1 this morning, and took it outside to check it out. Loaded up Relic Reaper, threw a board on the ground and did all sorts of air tests with nails, coins, and other junk I've found including the trusty beer can bottom. The D2 has the 13" elliptical on it. First thing I noticed with the update is that I didn't have to update the WSA II headphones. 🥳 Updating to V1 was all they needed. Observations: I did not have to back off to 24 kHz to mitigate iron falsing. 🥳 Iron is iron is iron now, almost scary for me. Used all sorts of forged, hammered, square, bent nails from the 1600s to the 1800s. I'm using square high tones now for that PWM brassy tone on aluminum. They cleaned full tones up too much. 😭 Some aluminum did an up/down tone passing left to right then right to left in V.71, that's gone. Oh well. Put a silver dime down, got its VDI, and then put a hammered nail on top of it. I'll be darned if it didn't hit cleanly on the coin sweeping over the width of the nail, and even along the length it blipped 91. Disc and notch independently to 10 had no effect other than to quiet the nail. I'll have to try both. I run Relic Reaper at 0 disc and no notch. Want to hear it all. Put a pull tab down, and got a handful of nickels, the pull tab was 62 and the nickels 60. Slightly different less brassy sound with the nickels, lifting didn't have much effect unfortunately. I was glad to see nickels ID'ing differently. Beer can bottom was way brassier sounding, and lifting helped. It also drew a square on the XY screen. Tried a nickel next to the pull tab and was shocked to see both VDI's even with Reactivity at 0. 👍 Wow. I didn't find a huge amount of difference adjusting audio response, but the tones were more defined the higher it went. For some reason Silencer does nothing for me. 🤔 Didn't help with iron at all. Iron was iron. I run bottle caps at 3. Conclusion: Definite improvement over V1, I'm happy to have my Relic program back, real ground experience will sharpen me up. The deer flies got bad so I quit.

What do you think? Art, artifact or randomly created in the environment. I eyeballed this canoe made of what appears to be ironstone last weekend while highbanking beside a river. I am really fascinated with this find. Native peoples have been in this area for over 10,000 years.

Minelab's big safeguard was their ravenous appetite for patents, including obtaining Govt grants to keep them running well beyond normal time limits. Their PI ground tracking, MPS and DVT patents kept all of the opposition out of the field for 2 decades. But now all of these patents have expired, the major players are slowly expanding on new designs, with Garrett and Nokta being the only ones likely to shake up Minelab in any reasonable time-frame. Fisher have a viable design to work with but FTP are (quite frankly) pathetic in their efforts to bring anything timely to market. The big player to watch for is Nokta. Their ability to produce quality at a lower price than Oz or US products will become a major nuisance for all manufacturers.....but a boon for us consumers. The next few years are gonna be interesting....

What has been your experience detecting gossan deposits? From what I understand these are usually hard rock mined underground beneath the exposed “iron cap” but I have found nuggets on the surface of at least one gossan deposit. I’m wondering if it’s worth exploring as a pattern, and what causes the gold to be good at the surface of some of these deposits and not so good at others.

I simply do not understand why the company refuses to engage potential customers on any level. They create web sites that die with no activity and zero updates. They sparodically allow a couple of select users to post results of their hunting but do not follow up in any way. They create small groups of inmpressive videos on a new product and then nothing. Not that they need someone as proactive as Dilek, who is an amazing force, but there are other ways to go to engage your consumer base. Look what Garrett has done with Steve Moore. He is good on camera, ACTUALLY hunts, and posts videos from timt to time. Garrett also engaged Steve on the Axiom. Meanwhile, back at the First Texas ranch, they do...nothing...

Actually after purchasing my first X Pointer Max I liked it so much I ended up purchasing the 2023 model X Pointer Max with the Magic Holster, personally from using both the older version and the new version with the magic holster I like the new 2023 model even more, a few of the things I really like about the new 2023 model I can run the new version on boost sensitivity now with no or very little falsing, I also like that now I can leave it on and re holster it and the new version goes into stand by mode ready to pin point when you remove it from the holster, as far as the buttons they are still hard to push but now with the magic holster that is no longer an issue. Both versions are great pin pointers but the new 2023 model is just a little better in my opinion on a couple of things like not having to fiddle with the button to turn it on and off and now it can be ran at max sensitivity other than those two things both the old version and new 2023 version are basically the same i purchased the 2023 model from Charlene and Andy Sabisch, I can provide you with their phone number if you want to call them I believe the name of their store is https://www.treasurehuntingoutfitters.com/?fbclid=IwAR03mQol7QI3TgwIaxvRseK5dTXYaTeWreo7zASDiMkQkfLRbH-WmG09iNw they are in Pennsylvania now

I am a long time, primarily relic detectorist, but I also coin shoot, and beach hunt. My primary detector is the Deus 2 because of its light weight, versatility, and high speed which enables it to handle iron well and it also does well in hot soil. I think the D2 is more machine than you need and has a high price point, so I am not recommending it but do provide links to further information below. If you want to skip all the detail below let me give you the bottom line up front: AT Pro is not really going to give you any more depth or separation in iron versus your MX7. If the AT Pro is your only consideration, I'd stick with the MX7. If you are interested in a fast detector at a reasonable price point I have two recommendations: Minelab Xterra Pro - fast with adjustable recovery speed and multiple selectable single frequencies <$300 Nokta Legend - fast with adjustable recovery speed and multiple selectable single frequencies and simultaneous multifrequency, currently <$400 If you want to stick with with made in the USA - Consider the Garrett Ace Apex multifrequency. Despite the "Ace" vs. "AT" designation, it has some better features and versatility over the AT Pro including selectable frequencies and multi-frequency which may eek out more targets in your situation than your MX7 but is not as good at handling iron or as fast as the previous two detectors I suggest. If you want to do a deeper dive, read on... As others have mentioned: The AT Pro is a classic and despite being first introduced more than 13 years ago, still gets the job done. But the AT Pro has mediocre recovery speed and is probably not noticeably faster than your MX7 nor is it known for being superior in iron. If the AT Pro is your one and only alternative to the MX7 that you are considering, I recommend you stick with the MX7 (yes I owned an AT Pro but eventually sold it). I too owned an MX Sport, your MX7's waterproof sibling. It had great ground handling and a number of interesting features but at the end of the day, I too was disappointed by its just ok recovery and depth. Add to that, above average weight and below average balance resulting in overall below-average ergonomics. Despite being waterproof and having some rudimentary salt balance capabilities, it was still not very stable in wet salt sand, requiring significant lowering of sensitivity for stable salt beach performance. I am not listing all of this to dump on Whites or the MX series (I still own the classic White's classic relic machine - an MXT) but to provide a frame of reference as to why I eventually sold my MX Sport and moved on to a more modern simultaneous multifrequency machine. Specifically, the Equinox 800. Simultaneous multifrequency provides some advantages associated with ground and salt handling, and also enables more versatility in going after targets because the multifrequency capability evens up the "playing field", eliminating the tendency of single frequency machines to favor either higher or lower conductivity targets as lower frequencies tend to favor higher conductive and large targets like silver or coin caches while higher frequencies tend to favor smaller targets or lower conductivity targets like gold jewelry, nickels, and brass. The key with these features is versatility. The recovery speed, decent target identification, good discrimination and ground handling features makes them great at picking through iron. Since the MX7 and AT Pro/AT Max have hit the streets, there have been a number of multifrequency and also capable single frequency detectors that not only have equivalent features but are also lighter, cheaper, and faster with great user interface features and multiple audio options. i suggest considering these detectors in addition to the AT Pro for their speed and iron handling capabilities. If you are interested in exploring these detectors further, I have broken them down for you and for others who may be interested. I recognize that you will not be using your detector at the beach but note when these are fully submersible primarily to show you they can be operated in the rain. The Detector Prospector Metal Detector Database pages provide detailed information on several detectors released over the past several years. The following breakdown of relatively recent design detectors with significant versatility, performance, and features versus your MX7 (all have built-in wireless audio capability but also speakers) can be explored further by clicking on the detector name links that will take you to the DP Detector Database writeup: Nokta Simplex - Fully Submersible, Single Frequency Machine <$300 Minelab Xterra Pro - Fully Submersible with multiple selectable single frequencies and variable recovery speed settings. Relatively new, but if you want an inexpensive, fast machine with adjustable recovery speed and 3 selectable frequencies, this is a great choice. <$300 Nokta Legend - Fully Submersible Simultaneous Multifrequency Machine and Multiple Selectable Frequencies, has adjustable recovery speed, multiple default search modes set up for park, beach, relic, and gold detecting. Features on par with the Equinox detectos at an amazing price <$400 (Note, first generation design of the Legend is going for~$388 as they start to introduce a lighter weight carbon fiber shaft system which will probably be greater that $400) Garrett Ace Apex - Lightweight, weatherproof Multifrequency Machine with Multiple Selectable Frequencies <$500 Not known for being superior in iron however. Greater than $500 - All of these machines have great iron handling capabilities. Minelab Equinox 600/800 - These fully submersible simultaneous frequency and selectable single frequency detectors have been here for more that 5 years now, were groundbrekaing in terms of but still perform. Their price is coming down with the release of the Minelab 700/900 below. Minelab Equinox 700/900 - Update of the popular Equinox 600/800. XP Deus and XP Orx - Fully wireless with multiple selectable frequencies and high recovery speed that is adjustable. Super light weight. Greater than $1000 - XP machines are know for their best in class iron handling performance. XP Deus 2 and Minelab Manticore HTH and Good Luck and Happy Hunting with whatever machine you finally end up with.

In big business when beholden to shareholders, well, I think that anyone who thinks ethics and morality is job one has rose colored glasses. It's eat or be eaten, and if it's not outright illegal, it will generally get done if it means winning when others lose. Of course such things are not done in writing. They are done at night at a private dinner, or in other "he said she said" deniable ways. I've gone swimming with the sharks myself, and it is not pretty. People are best off not knowing sometimes how the sausage is made, or who is doing what to somebody else in the "boardroom bedroom." At the end of the day it is all just drama and will matter little in whether I find any gold nuggets next week or not.

In a few days I should have the Rutus VERSA for testing... so I will do the tests that interest me... and then I will be able to write more about it... An important element of VERSA testing will also be practical detection on different types of terrain... in Spain... where I will be working for at least 3 months... this year...

I've not noticed it on most gold so maybe it's minerals in your soil and the more you remove the more minerals you eliminate but I have noticed it on some very tiny gold and I just put it down to the more soil in the scoop the less likely the tiny bit of gold is right at the bottom of the scoop, as the soil is gradually removed from the scoop the gold is naturally closer to the bottom of the scoop thereby getting closer to my coil. When it's light dusty soil I always jiggle my scoop around to help the gold work it's way to the bottom of the scoop, this is of course as I'm normally finding very tiny bits and this helps. I have noticed on some Aussies youtube videos that the targets in the scoop brighten up as they remove more and more soil from it, I really don't get that here unless its a very tiny target.

I was using Alter mostly in mild terrain, Only occasionally in high mineralization, I was participating in archeological digs in medieval monastery witch was completely burn in early post medieval, so lot of high mentalization form char coal, crushed bricks and pottery and tons of burned forget nails. detectors could not reach targets deeper than 10 cm... Alter on high reaction (7)was working well ,there was little chatering and falsing from it but it was easy to pick up signals of good targets. For next season of dig I have already Atrex and this one overpefromed all detectors used there. I was literally walking behind nox, D2 and D1 machines and pick up a lot of good signals. I thing rutus make a good job with multifilter ( I was using only single frequency with multifilter and even reaction was not so high 4. I was using 2 coils: mars sniper and 12cm CC). I don't know Versa but I think it will be performing better than Atrex due to bigger choice of frequencies and knowledge that Rutus gain during development of Atrex and Versa, I think ElNino will have more to say about this as he is testing Vesra ( but I guess before official release there will be not much information as Versa software is still in development).

Just to be clear, if you’re just talking Silencer behavior (and the “glitch” introduced by Ver 1.0), correct, the Beach Programs were and are unaffected because their min Silencer settings were not changed by ver 1.0 or 1.1. But obviously all the Beach programs can use the applicable Ver 1.X the enhancements to Full Tones, Expanded Silencer Range, Expanded Iron Volume Range, and Max F adjustments as well as Hi Square and the new Audio Filter Adjustment.

June 12 2002 The night had remained quiet and we got to work shoveling gravel into the tom. When we broke for lunch Jacob had the concentrates all cleaned up and there were 6 ounces of gold in the pan. He grinned and told us to shovel like hell because we were in a sweet spot. If only we had our trommel we could make a real killing I figured. But we went back to work and did the best we could. The heat was relentless. By the end of the day we had processed 35 yards. I figured that to be a very good days work in the heat. We were all worn out. Jacob took a few scoops of the concentrates and told us they were loaded with gold. He said maybe we didn’t need any trommel and had himself a good laugh. The rest of us looked at him and I thought he had gone mad the way he was laughing so hard. Jacob stopped and told us we didn’t seem to understand and that we had hit a jackpot. An area of concentrated gold deposit. Sizeable tonnage. Whatever you want to call it he said. Then he began to laugh some more. He said he’d seen this kind of thing several times on these claims. We might just have ourselves a gold strike. TO BE CONTINUED ...................

I love the old AT Pro. For whatever reason, I end up grabbing it over the CTX and other more capable, but more complicated, detectors. It's just a comfort thing I guess. After a lot of years with it, I can really understand the tones and what they're telling me. I've found silver dimes in the iron with it and the 5x8 coil. The durability is great and being waterproof is a must for me. With all of that being said, if I was just starting out fresh with no equipment and looking for my first detector in today's market, I would certainly go for a multifrequency unit over the AT Pro without a doubt. Technology has moved past it and there are more capable detectors for the same price today. The one thing I would check before buying anything is the availability of aftermarket coils. I have the Nel Attack for the AT Pro and the depth is very impressive. I would make sure that whatever machine you get there are options for a very large coil and a very small coil. Good luck!

In my initial park hunt with V1.1, I noticed a substantial reduction in iron falsing with Silencer and B.Caps at 0. I took the time to test Silencer and B.Caps responses individually on two big rusty nails before I dug them and they're both working better and less agressive in the low numbers. Of course I haven't had the chance to test it in a relic setting yet. That will tell the tale for sure.

It's a lighter metal, probably plated or anodized aluminum. It came up 96-97 on the TID, but I'm sure that's all about the size. 😏

I have a very strong super magnet affixed to the end of my hoe, and once the target is in the cup, I swirl the magnet throughly through the dirt to remove the magnetic materials, magnetite etc., as well as sift the target to the bottom of the cup. This action significantly enhances the signal volume. But then again, removing more and more dirt has the same effect. My conclusion is that mineralization, soil mass, and target orientation all contribute to signal strength. However, I prefer it when a loud signal is indicative of a big nugget! 😏 Hope this helps. HH Jim

I am curious about the little "spoon" also. Perhaps to handle Mercury? The suspender clip is very neat. Nice RF cartridge cases too. .44 Henry? Hopefully V1.1 will get the D2 lined back out. The Legend does very well in the iron. I keep my first Tone break at 7 to help unmask in small ferrous. Nice hunt.

That's my guess too. A half inch can make a big signal response difference on tiny targets. If the flake is floating anywhere up in your scoop and not the absolute bottom, that could be what you are noticing?

Thank you! I just ordered one off their website. $129.95 and free shipping.

It's gold!!! Gold colored aluminum! Great write up, CPT, with comparison and inclusion of settings. 👍

I believe that when you eliminate most of the soil from what the coil would normally see when passing over the gold in the ground, the signal is changed that the detector would normally pick up. When it is in a scoop there is less ground to cover and that will change the response on the detector. With the 800 I have been using, I have made a small test area with lead shot in the ground and I know that the sound I get when I hit the target with the target with the detector is different than when it is out of the ground and in my scoop. That is why I believe that it has to be with the amount of soil that is being passed over the coil. The coil is usually sitting on the ground without being moved side by side like you would be swinging it, but then when moving a small scoop of soil over it it takes into account the ground and the moving scoop. I don't know why it happens but it does.

It's people like you that they quickly rushed out 1.1 for, last thing they want is a heap of warranty claims on WS6's. I'm sure your account problems are a coincidence not a punishment.

You're on their list now buddy no updates for you!!!

Nice job. Green coins are always a good sign for some other goodies to show up.

The reason Minelab got so far ahead with gold detectors is because the competition didn't put the effort in, didn't put the $ into R&D and allowed it to happen which was a big mistake. Where they did always remain competitive was with the VLF's and we can still see that now, Minelab doesn't dominate, they had a boost with the Equinox while others played catch up but it's a neck and neck competition with no clear winner. So do we blame Minelab for their sky high detector prices or do we blame the lazy competitors that didn't take on the challenge? 🙂 Australia was naturally a country where making gold detectors would be something of interest with the large amounts of detectable gold in the country, a country with little to no gold or not as much interest in finding the gold with detectors is unlikely to be the determined one to make such detectors so that maybe why some manufacturers were more motivated than others in the early days of detectors. Now these other companies are looking to play catch up after decades of Minelab having dominance. QED in a way showed it's possible for even a small business run in a garage to make a viable detector to sell to give the market another option with reasonable performance so the jump isn't all that high to get something to market that people will buy if one man with some electronics knowledge and a 3D printer at his disposal can make a detector. Garrett now have their very competitive detector on the market, Fisher are still working towards theirs, Nokta doing what they do best and getting onboard making a Gold Prospecting PI too. Will Minelab always have this dominance? I don't know if they will. Garrett's first real attempt at fighting back isn't being left in the dust so who knows, if they have a second attempt in the future they may overtake, it's possible. It sounds to me Nokta may have some home grown motivation to make gold detectors too, Turkey is the world's nineteenth-largest producer of gold, with output of 1,594koz in 2022, up by 11% on 2021. Turkey, which in the early 2000s was unable to produce even one gram of gold, In 2020 produced 42 tons of gold in 18 active mines despite the pandemic. https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/gold-worth-6-billion-discovered-in-turkey-mining-to-start-within-two-years-282413-2020-12-24

That's how it should have been made, they appeared to work that out with the Manticore. Well done, a proper solution for minimal expense.

This would be a major violation of anti-competitive laws. If it was in writing, some lawyers may end up gainfully employed.

Thanks

Jeff, My guess is a powder measurer for filling cartridges

They are taking those steps already selling direct in some part of the world and experimenting with cutting out the middle men, baby steps to get it right I guess. They would need large local warehouses staffed to ship goods which takes time, and sales have to be viable in the region to make it happen. Europe would be one of those regions you would think however other brands seem more popular there. Spend many millions setting up and you would want to have good strong continuous sales, that's where distributors help, you piggyback off their business so you don't have all that expense yourself and they can survive as they do multiple brands to keep them busy. When sales are good right after a new model for example staff would be run off their feet and you'd possibly need more staff, it times between models and sales slow to a crawl staff are sitting around twiddling their thumbs with nothing to do yet you're still paying their wages and paying the expenses of having the active distribution center. In house warranty repair is something that could be done from the same location, likely needing different staff to do the repairs than package the parcels though and unless they have a crazy amount of faulty stuff they often wouldn't have enough to do either which is why often service agents also service other products and brands too. In saying that with Minelab's quality lately they maybe extremely busy full time. Customers wouldn't put up with ordering a detector and waiting weeks for it to arrive from an international destination, they need local warehouses to do it. It sounds all nice and easy until you think about it a bit more and would possibly only be viable in some markets. They could distribute to dealers from overseas, dealers would have to be very organized with stock though as if it takes weeks to arrive they'll run out and have no stock to sell often, you never know when you'll be busy so it would cause sales interruptions and loss of sales often. Now they just contact the local distributor and have stock quickly if the stock exists, again with Minelab it often doesn't 🙂 They'll never want to get rid of the retail dealers and sell only direct as the retail stores give them a different type of exposure to online and they would lose a lot of sales if they did so, so all they can cut out is distributors which for the points above is not as easy as it sounds.

I seriously doubt losing IDC is a major concern for Minelab in the long run. There's bound to be any number of smaller dealers willing to take the leap to expand their business. They're probably already talking behind the scenes as I type this. If not, setting up a direct mail distributor for Europe wouldn't take much, and probably make them even more money than being simply a manufacturer. In this global market, I'm actually surprised cutting out the middleman hasn't happened already.

I'm thinking it has more to do with 'mass' in the scoop than closeness to the bottom. Once I get the target in my scoop, after pinpointing, the first scoop that has a tiny or small target definitely can be heard of you would keep scooping. How much is that volume, mass or weight in the scoop? It seems very little that would affect the signals of the coil but even when the target is at the bottom of the scoop the sound to me is still compromised. If you happen to halve the contents of the scoop and you have to target in your hand and nothing in the scoop, as I wave it over different parts of the coil I mostly hear nothing. When the target half of material is added back to the scoop you can hear a louder signal and this volume continues to increase until you only have the target. One exception to this observation seems to be pellets. Pellets are pretty loud with a lot of material in the scoop or very little. I'm open for suggestions and I see that Wes has sent something as I type this.

Jeff, Interesting. You were using one of the Programs that were severely affected by the low setting (0, 1, 2) aggressive ver 1.0 Silencer glitch that significantly increased ferrous masking even with high recovery speed settings. So that may have affected your ability to unmask in iron. Conversely, the aggressive silencer setting should have also knocked down the nail falsing more, too. It’s a mixed bag, but I suggest torturing yourself using the same setup but with the ver 1.1 update. Should reduce the masking but you will be subject to the falsing, however, the increase in silencer filter effect (to mitigate falsing) will be more gradual. Might better be a able to find a sweet spot Silencer setting that does not over mask while knocking down the falsing. Also, might want to experiment with the new audio filter in this situation.

Dan - Thanks for spelling it out. I see it now. It's pretty subtle and even happens simply selecting the equalizer from the shortcut menu (without changing any of the equalizer graphic frequency band settings or turing it off/on). The Default big TID returns when you power cycle the remote and it returns to default settings (or saved Big TID setting if using it on custom modes). Does not happen when accessing any of the other audio settings via the shortcut. To me the Equalizer is kind of a set once and done thing, not something you regularly change on the fly and returning to Big TID is easy with the hot key shortcut, but it is a definite bug so I will log it.

Thanks for getting out and testing real world, Cap'n! 👍 Looks like you got about rainbow-ed out there, from the Hot Wheels car to the jewelry. 🤣 Love the fine linen and china display as well. Your report is encouraging, I was still trying to be objective with V1, but apparently they made it a bit easier to be. The audio response bit is intriguing. 🤔

Yes. This also happened in 0.71. In 1.1 the same thing. in addition to being activated the equalizer also changes the main screen

Fire the machine up in General program and start using, then press bottom left audio shortcut button and select equilizer, make a small change then use back keys to go back to detect screen, profile is now the horseshoe and not big numbers. This was in v1.0, haven’t tried it in v1.1 yet.

This shows how to disable the auto on feature for the WS6.

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Just look for the one smiling. Their the one doing the screwing. 😉

Found this information. This was the name given to a type of light-weight bicycle made by the thousands in Syracuse by E.C. Stearns & Co. Edward C. Stearns transformed his father’s hardware and wagon factory to a bicycle factory. An excellent rider himself, Stearns opened his business on Oneida Street in 1888 and eventually watched it grow to have four plants in Syracuse and 3,500 employees. Additionally, the company had plants in Toronto, Canada and Germany. At one time, Stearns was the largest manufacturer of bicycles in the world.

Gerry, the 3 larger pieces of gold are, 1.9 and 1.3 grams, another 1.2, all others made up the balance.

So could I, but I would end up being Divorced and broke. LOL..

Just when you think it can't get any worse it does. I'm stuck in the Gulf of Mexico, in a sub, and will be here for quite some time. Wanted to see something like this for the past 2 years and it had to be in Alaska of all places. The least you could do is sign me up for the prizes and draw my name. Wish you all the luck and hope things work out at this event, and maybe I can go to the next one.

This is a good Q&A on the GPX 6000 for those considering one, Nenad was a field tester for it and knows what he's talking about. I found what he has said in his Q&A here very agreeable. https://phasetechnical.com.au/minelab-gpx6000-gold-detector-qa/ I like that he makes the case for the various detectors and honestly talks about their strong and weak points. Now the GPX has it's known issues resolved it really is a good detector and I really like mine, as is the GPX 4500/5000 he also talks about and of course the GPZ 7000 is great, and in my mind the best there is.

Dunno if Ditimar will come on, but Dimitar might…😉 Chuck - what about all these other great VLF machines that ARE happening in your lifetime (Nox 700/900, Manticore, Deus 2, Legend, Quest V80…all released or about to be released in just the last year)? You can see where the manufacturers are going and it isn’t single frequency. It’s unfortunately getting harder for Tarsacci to make a splash much less compete…so hopefully Dimitar does have something unique up his sleeve again that can turn some heads away from these established players…