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Recovering from a record breaking Winter of Snow, now we are suffering from near daily Rains. My Theory is there is so much moisture in the Sierra’s coupled with warm Spring days turns it into afternoon Thunder Storms. Anyway a person addicted to our hobby has to get out and search for their fix. This story is about my 3rd trip and just like the first two trips knowing that the ground was subpar for detecting…but, it’s the hunt and hunt we must! Met my Pard Lucky Larry out of Elko, NV we quickly hoped into my RZR and hit the trail. Notice I didn’t say Dusty Trail. We hit several old haunts with limited results at each. We ended up hunting some new ground, I dropped Larry off on one side of the hill and I drove over it to hunt the other side. Hour later, I went back to my RZR to pick up Larry and my trusty machine would not start! During the over a mile hike back to my truck, I figured it was my Fuel Pump…of course no Shade Trees out in the high Desert to confirm my diagnosis. Lucky I have a winch on my RZR as we would have never got her loaded up, didn’t bother trying to crank it before loading as I knew I’d need every bit of my battery to load it. It rained on and off as we drove back to camp and continued thru the night. Next morning we drove to a nearby patch and pulled a few more dinks before I loaded up and left with rain drops just starting to fall. Back home with my newly Amazon delivered fuel pump, I hoped in the bed of my truck where I left my RZR. Let’s see if the battery recharged itself, the sucker cranks up! I unload it and take it for a ride in the back 40. Cranked every time I turned it off too! Still no shade trees, but in my garage I thought maybe it was Vapor Locked? I read up on it and it’s not uncommon…so if you see my little Red RZR way out in no-man’s land laying in a puddle of oil, know I shed a tear! It’s Memorial Day and according to Weather report 3 more days of afternoon thunder storms. Rye Patch area will need a few dry days to get the ground settled down to hear them dinks, but there is always some shallow ducks to get your coil over until better conditions arrive! Here’s our loot for the day and a half trip…yes, my poke is on the left. Both Larry and I used the 10x5 Coiltek on our 6000’s…great coil. Until the next hunt! LuckyLundy

Chris and I spent a few days poking around a portion of then perimeter of the second largest known US meteorite crater. (Beaverhead Impact Crater) On the way back to camp one afternoon, we saw a sign for Malm Gulch about 9 miles west of Challis, Idaho. Malm is famous among geos' for its ancient petrified Sequoia stumps, which can be as much as 8' in diameter. The elevation is about 5,600', and the temp was about 75, so I knew the snakes might be out. I was alittle worried about Heidi, but we hiked on in the 1 1/2 miles. As I turned into the4 final small dry gulch, there was a knee-high shelf in the wash, and as my eyes rose up there was a small pile of rattlesnakes, At first, I thought it was one really large snake, but as I looked, I realized it was two snakes. I assume they were mating, as there was one male and one female. The female got quickly hostile, and never did calm down. The male never budged, or rattle...maybe post-coital bliss, or fatigue...LOL. Thank God Heidi was not out in front as she usually is, and Chris was able to get her corraled. We decided to beat feet back to the rig. I could get by the snakes, but we were obviously near a den area, and I didn't want to risk Heidi being bitten by a snake we didn't see. You guys be careful out there. The male snake is on the right. Jim

Update: Hunt # 2 with V1.1 So rather than start a new thread I decided to just show the results from my short 2nd hunt with V1.1 yesterday. This was about a 2 1/2 hour hunt at an older park that one of my detecting buddies told me had been hammered hard since the 70s and lots of old silver coins came out of there. I was hoping there might still be one hidden there, so I made a quick run before the afternoon rainstorm came in. This very small park is well manicured and clean as a whistle. There was no surface trash and the daily rain has made the grass about 3-4 inches high and the ground is damp. I ran V1.1 in the same config as the first hunt a couple of days ago, Fast, Disc 6.8, Notch 7-30, Full Tones, High Sqr, Sensitivity 95, Reactivity 1.5, Silencer and B.Caps 0, Iron Vol 7, Audio Response 4, FE TID on, Audio Filter 0. There were almost no signals anywhere except for occasional deep iron grunts. I played with lowering my Reactivity to 0 but there just weren't any signals. I figure that place still gets detected pretty often. When I got near a grove of trees I started geting the familiar ring pulls and pull tabs, but I was able to call each one before I dug and also the few bits of canslaw I dug by also checking them with Deus Mono in the XY screen. That was dead on for every bit of trash with squiggly lines and wildly jumping numbers. The only bits that fooled me were the broken off beaver tails which rang up and sounded very much like nickels. However, one signal I thought was another beaver tail ended up being a 6 inch deep 1964 nickel. There was still minimal iron falsing and most was really easy to tell with a 90 degree turn on the signal and also by the iron tone being right with the false. I was also able to trace the end of the iron object with the pinpoint mode and if the high number was at the edge it was obviously iron. The big rusty nail I dug was about 7-8 inches deep, oriented with the head up, and threw an occasional 90-91. It was very iffy but I had to check it out. The iron washer was also deep and just gave an iron tone but sounded round so I dug it partly because there were so few good targets. As I was heading back across the open area to my car I got a solid 80 which I thought might be a bottle cap, but just sounded too good for that and it was a foreign coin of some type. I haven't figured out where it's from yet, so if anyone knows, please let me know. About 10 feet from there, I got pretty solid 76-78. It was just a little too solid sounding to be a ring pull so I popped it up and out comes a .925 silver cross pendant. Woohoo, silver # 11 for the year. I've found 6 pieces of silver since January before the update. I've found 5 pieces of silver since the V1.0 update (3 with V1.0 and 2 with V1.1) so far this month. I only found 15 pieces of silver last year with the D2. That may not mean anything, but then again, it might. 😏

Recently dug these buttons a few weeks ago and thought that I would post them on the 4th of July but Memorial Day works as well.The Deus 1 with the elliptical coil running at 74 KHz in a pitch program was able sniff them out of some serious square nail and other iron pollution and the ungodly amount of weeds.The small half dime sized button is listed in the Warren K.Tice book as a Union Patriotic Button and the larger one is a California state seal/militia type that I am guessing is post civil war era? Tinned Iron Back This One Was A Little Difficult To Get The Details On The Script On The Topside Says Eureka Now I Need To Clean Them Up There Is A Lot Of Gilt So Lemon Juice?

But I’ll take it. I was hunting at a Civil War union camp. Located the nail beds of two more camp buildings (found four so far) and one Civil War era residence. The camp buildings were a little further over than I expected based on the old map. I was running a V1.1 modified fast square and had to bump recovery speed to around 2+ due to the nails. The EMI at parts of this site is bad enough such that the best offset and sensitivity in the low 80s still results in warbly signals. Came across a relatively good nickel signal near the side of one of the nail patches. Around 4 to 5 inches down, up pops a dirt covered disc with silver highlights - a 1945 P war nickel! Not the war I was looking for, but I’ll take it! The wrench is also not the desired time period. But I kept getting a consistent localized 70s reading surrounded with iron grunts. I’m still relatively new to the D2. But one thing I’ve learned in the last couple outings - if I’m getting a consistent signal but can’t pinpoint as there is a large metal target underneath or multiple metal targets in the vicinity that pull the pin point off to the side of the “good” signal, then I locate as best as possible based on the signal and then leave it to the MI6 to pick it up as I dig. That has resulted in several coins. This time I got a wrench thrown in my plans. 🤪 I think the residence has been pretty well hunted. The only signals I was pulling from the nails there were 60s and 70s – can slaw, along with new and beavertail pulltabs and flaps. The small motor brass (?) gasket and lead strip were there.

Hi, To stay simple, Frequency addition means that you take every response of a target from the different frequency the D2 use, you average all the results and you convert to a sound. so for example, you take a little piece of aluminium that can't be taken by far with low frequency and you take a very high conductor that have a scratchy sound with high frequency, with a program who have frequency addition, you can have a good signal on both target because you use the response of all the frequency range between high frequencies and low frequencies. For the conductive ground substraction, you do the same but because you use multi simultaneous frencies, you can compare every signals and you can identify the signature of the conductive ground and you can litteraly substract it from the final audio signal. the salt sens can widen or narrow the window of this substraction. the big difference between ground substraction and notching is that with notching, you detector see the notched target but it cut the sound so there is a masking effect. With the substraction, it's like pure magic, the conductive soil is wiped out so your detector can pass trough and even if you have a little target witch will normally be masked, here you can see it clearly like in an air test 🙂 all these explanations is my way of seeing from the explanations I received from R&D XP team.

Reminds Me of an old girlfriend....

Yes, it's the case 👍 For your second question, about silencer, when XP said "With settings below 2, it improve performance on mineralized ground." in the manual, it's because with silencer at 0, the algorithm can analyse the ground area to "recover" some targets. So if you want the most "neutral" position of the silencer, it could be found at 1.

Just check the user's manual ! 😉 it has been updated since the release of the V1.0. https://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/uploads/files/document/gb-rc-deusii.pdf Page 33

I think it's good housekeeping to always update the headphones whenever the RC has been updated. Also it's good to get into the habit of turning the unused RC volumes down after the update. This will significantly improve your battery life.

I really enjoyed reading that review. Great skills, thanks for sharing 🤝

Not the kind you want to find. Nowadays you can find anything and everything at the beach. I’m glad I wear gloves during my hunts. Stay safe and protected out there. HH

To help us give you sound advice it would be good to know your detecting objectives, if known. For example: Do you primarily detect for coins, jewelry, relics, meteorites or natural gold or a combination of these? What typical environments do you detect in: parks, farm fields, woods, tot lots, ball fields, cellar holes, salt beaches, or freshwater lakes and rivers? Soil types: Sandy, rocky, or clay. Mild soil, black sand, or ferrous mineralization? Trash and target density: Lots of aluminum, nails, bottle caps, and/or big iron? To get you started: The Orx is primarily designed for detecting natural gold and has very limited, but usable “coin” settings. It probably lags the Xterra Pro at salt beach performance but both are probably outperformed there by a multifrequency detector like the Legend. The Orx is super lightweight primarily facilitated by it’s all wireless design. But that feature also limits its ability to operate with its coil submerged in water, necessitating use of additional antenna wire claptrap. The xTerra on the other hand is fully submersible, including it’s control box. Finally, the xTerra has more tone customization options than Orx, including the ability to adjust tone breaks. Overall, xTerra Pro is more versatile and affordable than the Orx by virtue of its design and plentiful selection of accessory coils, but the Orx has it beat at micro target sensitivity because of its ability to operate a higher frequencies than the xTerra. The main knock against xTerra that I’ve heard is target ID stability. If the Orx is within your price range, and depending on your detecting objectives, I would give serious consideration to picking up a value-priced Simultaneous Multi-Frequency detector such as the Legend, which has even more capability and performance than either Orx and Xterra Pro. But if you are on a budget, the Xterra a is a capable and versatile value detector. Edit: OK - Looked at your previous posts and I see you already own the Orx and have experience with the Legend and Whites MXT so I probably wasted your time with information you probably already know. Providing a little additional context when you ask such an open ended question would be helpful. In the absence of that, I am going to start at square one.

Last night after work I went to the beach with my Terra Pro to search the dry beach. My beaches are fairly trashy and full of all types of metals and targets. The machine worked well and I don't have anything to report on water use. It found me as much as I think any other machine would have found me if i used another machine. I found its first Silver ring and a junk ring, 1 small foreign coin and £9.33p in spendable coins. If there is anything at all that i can criticize it would be the inability to knock out crown caps. (The one in the picture) They constantly come in at a high number and as the Terra and the 900 and the Manticore by the looks of it aren't the most stable on numbers , it would be an absolute dream come true if Minelab would just do something about that one thing. Then the new Terra will turn into a proper Terra'ist of beach detecting. My next hunt will be in the week if i can but not so sure which machine to use. 800 , Legend or the Terra again ? I think without looking the tides are a bit longer then. Could do with the sand showing.

I am a long-time big fan of the Fisher F19, Gold Bug Pro, Teknetics G2+ line of detectors. I have never used the clone of those detectors that you have. I have owned simultaneously a Fisher F19/Teknetics G2+ and the Legend. If I set my Legend on 20 kHz, one of its 5 selectable single frequency settings, and use its 3 tone Park or Field modes, I will get very similar performance as the F19/G2+ using its 3 tone discrimination mode. I still have four other selectable single frequency settings and three other multi frequency settings to choose from in those two modes however. I can put the Legend it its Park and Field modes or its Prospecting mode using Pitch tones set on 20 kHz and it will simply out perform the F19/G2+ where I detect. That performance difference gets even bigger using the other selectable single frequencies or especially the simultaneous multi frequency settings. As BigTim said and I know this from experience, the Legend using its Beach modes far outperforms an F19/G2+ on saltwater dry sand, wet sand and of course submerged since it is fully waterproof.

I had one of the fisher gold bug clones before. It is similar to the clone you have of the g2. Yes, the legend is a better metal detector. It is better made, the screen is nice and you have many more settings to adjust. It handles emi better and it is a very smooth and quiet running unit. It will do better at the beach too for you being a multi frequency unit. So what all do you have to do to get a permit for metal detecting inland and how much will it cost you? Why do you have to wait so long before you get the permit?

That Ring Even Has A letter M Engraved on It.... That's A Perfect Advertising Plug If I Ever Saw One... Great Finds...

Thanks for the reminder about turning unused audio to zero! I remembered to do that when I updated to 1.0, but had forgotten when I updated to 1.1.

Simon, we weren't really looking for meteorites. Just looking for indications of gold. The crater is enormous...some Geo's claim 100 miles across, but most say about 40. The Great Basin is the only one bigger in the US. There is very little evidence of it remaining. Only a Geo would recognize the indicators. It was discovered about 30 years ago. The center is about 8 miles west of where we camped off US 93. All that said, I'd really like to find a fragment of it. We did locate an old placer location that had Lead, silver, gold, and barite/barium. We'll be going exploring in the canyon above that later this year, hopefully. Jim

On the beach yes. But inland no. You need to get all the necessary permissions for it. Ask local police before each move to avoid trouble. I have friends in Morroco. Where are you going? Agadir?

Since looking at it again, it looks like it has felt on the bottom of it. Should that be the case it is more likely that it is a pawn from a chess board.

You gotta dig a few of those before you start trusting what the machine is telling you, don't you? Been there, done that on my beaches. BUT, even if it is red lining in one direction, if the TONE you're hearing is screaming GOOD target.....I dig. (thank you prospector audio theme) Most of the time it is iron, but every once in a while, it is iron near a good target. This is when you recover something the competition didn't dig! 😁

Is that an Easter egg ?

Thank you! Machine was obviously ground balanced but when I’m on the field I always forget to do things...like to test the other program I had set for myself and audio filter vs iron. Next time I’ll do other tests but I hope I’ll use an action cam, not the mobile phone. Anyway I’m still happy with the result..

I bet to some it's golden.

I use the stock coil, it's perfectly fine and works great, very sensitive too but the little 6" is just more sensitive and for me that's a big deal because I primarily live in an area with very small gold.

......That piece came out at the doors of my house, first day; just taken out of the box. I live on the seashore and that area has been detected for years too! It was deep, about 10' inches, but it's not so much deep?! ...No ??? Take a good look at the photos, it's broken at the bottom...It was a weak signal, forget about the ID, but I could hear that clean tone in the background that I adore. Among all those familiar iron growls. Curious. And for the price of a coil. Master play!! 😎

Jusr a little nose ring but cute. Tested 14k. Eyeball find while digging under the swings.

Gerry, Larry, did manage to get his coil over larger dinks! Next time I’ll zig and then zag instead of zag and zig 😂 Rick

nice group of nuggets LL! I missed the winter season in AZ by moving back to NH last July. Hoping this coming winter I will be able to take a month and go hunt ... maybe January to kick the new year off.

Your explanation is now clear. Thank you. I downloaded the English version 1.0 manual when it was released and then downloaded the English version 1.1 manual today and printed the factory program default spec page for both manuals. The silencer settings for #3 Sensitive FT were different with 2 being the published default in v1.0 and 3 being the published default in v1.1. I did not check to see if that was actually the default settings using my Deus 2 remote.

Nice hunt. Your "brass gasket" is a alarm clock frame.

Hello, Haven't heard when the M8 coil will be released to the public but I am "on the list" to get one from my detector sales guy when they become available. Those small coils are invaluable for trashy sites as you probably are already aware. As far as coin & relic hunting with the Manticore. I really like mine for both. I am finding more silver coins with it and even in the so-called worked out sites. Dig those deep-iffy signals and you'll be amazed at what is left in the ground. I mostly hunt coins but do find relics too. Just the other day I found a 1941 State of West Virginian fishing license. I'll send a pic. Also, I have pulled out some three-ringers and tokens among other things. Hope you have a great day! John

Nothing like the ones you guys have down there...thank God.....LOL

That is Hammid, my good friend. He lives near Casablanca 😉

Thanks for the kind welcome. We are restricted where we can dig over here, but I have some permissions already, and in general, river banks etc are OK.

Don’t worry saltwater sterilizes everything. What was the ID? might want to notch that out. 😂

Here is what the coins look like after 1 hour in the rock tumbler with steel shot.

I was thinking of using that plastic dip coating, Plasticote for my pinpointer. It's been around forever and works on tool handles. You can control the thickness by dipping more or less. Comes on many colors too!

I haven't even heard of people laying out burlap sacks directly in the river. Makes sense. I am sure it would work in my locations.

Great hunt. Looks like fun. The triangle piece looks like an arrow head.

Just come back from the high mineralized area, I wanted to show that audio filter feature is really important to go deeper and have a better signal also in mineralized soils. I had a weak one way signal with audio filter 0 and a 100% better signal with audio filter 5. Very low conductive target in the bottom of a 9” hole.. Here is the video. Sorry for the low quality, used again the mobile phone but I have to buy an action cam..

Those are textbook symptoms of a monopoly, especially when shareholders are involved. In general, a monopoly results in planned obsolescence, price gouging, poor customer service, and denial of quality issues.

I'm sure AI or even someones pet donkey could write a better top 10 best detector list than most of the ones I've seen on the Internet.

No, it would stick it in its mouth and take a selfie with it!

I bought my White's 24K from Jim McCulloch and even though ti have owned a several White's and Fishers over the years one of the best thing I did was get Jim's book : Advanced Nugget Shooting with the Goldmaster 24K "

It makes me think of this little gem: Business is like other relationships. You get in bed with somebody else thinking it will be great for both parties. But sometimes you find out it's just one person getting screwed, and the other doing the screwing. The final lesson being that just like with any relationship, outside observers rarely know which party is which.

I could see needing a drone to get the gold out of China, but in??? I’ve flown into Shanghai and other cities in China from the US a dozen times and never once had anyone have any concern on anything I brought in through customs. If they were trying to avoid taxes on the gold or something similar they could have done a number of things… belt buckles… a big ol rodeo belt buckle, long as no one tried to pick it up, lol.

Yes, it's already paid. The vibration function is remarkable in the water (and you can cancel ferrous only). Keypad backlight! ...whoever has a Legend knows what I'm talking about. And pinpointer mode finally works. The wedding band rang out in a clear and solid 22-23. From the beginning I knew it was there. The audio is really good and now you got All Tones (At) and Deep (dP), what more could you want ?!?!... I reserve the test on the beach with the 15' Coiltek coil for a little later. I think it will be awesome! The €1 coin over 12 inches. Perhaps the new X-Terra Pro will be the next game changer...