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On a camping trip to a campground that used to be an old hunting lodge, it's changed hands twice and is owned by a large company now. It's near the Outer Banks in North Carolina, this is my third year coming here. Beautiful weather this week, it should be a lot of fun. The campground isn't full at all, and the General Manager has graciously allowed me to hunt pretty much anywhere I want. There are 148 acres here, and a long stretch of waterfront but no beach. There are piers and the water isn't all that deep so I may go in the water at some point. 😬 Maybe. There has to be some jewelry out there. I didn't have a lot of time today because I got the green light at about 1pm, so I went to the volleyball court and the recreation area that has a few amenities. Dug a bunch of coins and this nice looking kid's ring. It's a little crab with some sort of stone, sizable and not precious metal. Next I went out to the tent camping area. I've found a lot of live ammo here from the old hunt club but not today. Got another bunch of coins and got my favorite find today, this really old signet ring. It's kinda beat up but it has a "V" on it, it appears to be brass but it's very thin and strong. I'll have to clean and test it when I get home. No hallmarks. Here's the total take for today, lots of old clad, a couple of nickels and copper memorials. I did get 8 Zincolns but left 3 in the trash: And here's the trash. Very little iron, but can slaw is still a problem.

thanks Simon, and yes I'm glad I waited to buy the 6000 it seems this one is going very well, very happy with it, and that same patch in the previous post that was up 32 bits of gold is now on 62 bits of gold after today when I got 30 more for the day, well it was a short day, just 4 hours as the wind was very bad, like up 60km/h gusts. I put up with it for as long as I could and have another go tomorrow. todays gold was 4.5 grams for 30 bits, and the 6000 now has 50.1 grams for just under 3 weeks of use cheers dave

and another spot that I have been getting small gold from that was very close to or had been gone over somewhat last year with the Zed and the 17"cc x-coil. So the last two days on this next patch had yielded 32 bits of gold so far and have another go at it today to see if there might be a few more.

I don't know to much about the 6000 yet as I have only used it for just under 3 weeks so far, but I do know this, it works very well. Mostly I use it in Difficult (wriggly lines) and get a minimum of hot rocks, when I use Normal (straight lines) it finds hot rock heaven. I don't know if it is "Geo Sense" working, but a couple of swings over a suspect signal, (that's a signal that's not a signal) it just fades out after a few swings. On a signal no matter how faint if it is gold is remains and it gets better after as bit of a scrape, so just dig it up, and plenty of the tiny bits I'm finding are like 6" to 8" deep, and of course there are the shallow 1" deep bits as well that can't be missed, they just say dig me now. So I just reckon I don't need to know how a sportz car is built, I just need to know how to drive it. cheers dave

I'd like to see that one, I've found some spurs but none with the rowel. 🤔 Congrats. Got out for a longer time today, I'll be messing with V1.1 relic hunting all week. It's another great place like home with no mineralization to speak of, ground balances typically about 78-80. Easy to dig sandy loam. 🥳 I've pounded the heck out of this place over the last couple of years but there are a lot of places to look. I'll get to try every bit of the D2's capability if I get the courage to go in the brackish water. 🤣 Just have to stay out of the woods at night because there's a bear here. 😬 So far I've found that audio filter when pushed to 5 makes most aluminum make a broken "brassy" sound instead of a pure tone, I was able to call every piece of can slaw I dug for the most part, but I'm back doing that again because you really have to when you have a new release. Also running Silencer low and discriminating iron now, I can confidently say they have improved that. Like Chase I'm digging everything pure sounding over 40, and a solid 62 today turned out to be a brass or maybe even gold ring. I'm gratefully more able to tell the difference between nickels and pull tabs.

It is closed now but here is a bit of history. I couldn't find another thread on it but if there is just add this to it.

Well getting out to detect with the new V1.1 update has been sporatic at best with my monsoon season in overdrive with rain everday for weeks now. As soon as I can find some dry wood, I'm going to get started on building an Ark! 😏 So one of my detecting buddies called on Saturday and said the rain has stopped for almost an hour in his part of town. Well that was all I needed so off I went to meet him at a site we call the dump which had houses there in the 1800-1950s that were then cleared to make a park. This site in dry season is hard digging, but the ground now is waterlogged, so much easier digging, however with several decades of man-made iron and ground mineralization, everything in the ground was lit up like the 4th of July! This site has a bunch of modern non-ferrous trash on top of the older iron and non-ferrous trash, and has been hunted extensively so it's always kind of hit or miss as to whether you'll find anything good there. Well this seemed like a chance to get friendly with the General program with the V1.1 update. I have sporatically played with General and @F350Platinum's Relic Reaper program since V0.71, but my goto has always been Fast variations for relic hunting and @Rattlehead's Silver Slayer program for coins and jewelry shooting. With all the wet ground, this seemed like the perfect scenario to see what the stock V1.1 General program would do. The only changes I made were to bump the Reactivity to 2.5 and change from 2 Tones to Full Tones with High Sqr audio. There was a noticeable taming of the ground signals and I was able to pick out some decent non-ferrous items. Needless to say, I liked the way General handled the soaking wet ground. I switched back & forth on targets with my Fast programs and General to see if there were any differences and there were. Fast overloaded easily while General allowed the good signals through better. Now I probably could have dialed in my Fast programs at some point to better deal with the wet, but I really wanted to see what General's Subtractive frequencies could do and it did not disappoint. I will definitely be exploring General some more. My finds on the "mudlarking" hunt include a hotel tag from the Alamo Hotel (1882-1968) which is probably a very early one, a decorative wall or door clip which may be related to the same hotel found about 6 feet from the tag, a Peters Victory shotgun cap (1911-1915), a possible valve stem cap marked "DILL CLEVELAND-O", and a very decorative metal strap or clip with an ornate water sceen on it. Does anyone know what that may be? So the exploration of V1.1 continues as the weather permits.

So I had been working a pay streak for the past three sluicing and panning sessions. I took a friend last week, just to show him how it’s done, and I knew we would find some in the streak. He went home with around 7 or 8 small flakes in a vial, and even if he doesn’t follow through with the hobby, at least he has his own little vial containing Scottish gold. well yesterday I continued on the streak, but it began to dry up, with only a few tiny specks in what I decided was the last pan. I was only half way through my day, so I had to try a new bit. Just a couple of yards upstream, and I mean two yards, there was a big pile of rocks that I thought must have come from a landslide at first glance, but on further inspection they were just too well placed. The pile was built up the side of bedrock and I hadn’t a clue what the ground was like under it all. So with nothing else for it I decided to start removing the rocks, some big some small. It must have taken me a good hour or more to start making progress, but progress was made nonetheless. At the bottom of the pile of rocks was stones which were loose and easy to remove, which I did, but it was the sheer bedrock wall that took my interest. There were cracks and crevices which ran vertically down the face, and at the bottom of a few of these cracks had bedrock that stopped any gravels from dropping into the stream. I used my gravel pump to wash these areas and let the gravel fall down into the stream where I could suck it up in the pump. Well the work paid off after finding a good picker in the first bucket. I think I must have washed it out the bedrock straight away. change really does do us good, but I have a question. I can’t afford a detector, so here’s the question. Can a hand held pointer be any good for working the crevices in the bedrock on dry land up in the hills? Or are these only good when in conjunction with a metal detector? An amateurish question, but bare with me as I am an amateur 😄. If it’s possible can anyone recommend a good pointer fir this purpose that won’t cost the earth. Thanks in advance for any advice and information offered, and thanks for taking the time to read my posts. ian🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🥃

I'm liking 1.1 OK. Took it out about a week ago to a silver mining camp where the mineral bar on the meter was maxed out. Used a program based of Fast with bottle cap reject 2, Silencer up to 2 and notch at 10. Worked pretty good IMO. Didn't find any coins but I did find a lot of relics. I'm really not that concerned about the ID on most items as I'm generally digging everything above 40 at those types of sites anyway.

I didn't get a chance to post this earlier, but a few weeks ago I got to go back to the site of my first ghost town hunt. It's one of my detecting club's permissions that has been hunted for probably 30 years of the club's 50 year history. My first hunt there 2 years ago was a daunting experience to say the least. If you've never done relic hunting, specially on a site that once had almost 2000 people living and workng there, then you cannot even imagine what that's like. The tons of iron and coal throughout the area makes every detector go nuts and a few detectorists too. 😉 There are other inhabitants on this site as well. A couple of local boys wanted to crash the hunt, but they didn't have their club cards on them so they were politely asked to leave. 😏 I was very excited to get back to this site hoping for some really old coins and artifacts now that I have had a few years of training and felt I was ready for the big game. Well let me tell you, it only takes hunting a few hours of hunting with 30 pro detectorists to to put you in your place and one of the big lessons I learned was that detecting is 50% physical and 50% mental. I started the first day rushing around to get out the door on time for the long drive to get to the site on time and discovering a few block from my house that my rear tire was flat. That set the tone for the day. I got that fixed and flew like the wind and just barely made it to the meetup on time. When we get to the site, I rush around getting my wife's detector set up and ready to go, grab my detector and climb through the barbed wire fence and discover I forgot my shovel, so I climbed back through the barbed wire, grab my shovel and slither back through the fence only to find I forgot my gloves... Auuuughhh! I run the gauntlet again with gloves in hand and finally get ready to hunt and my remote control lock mount decides to break off. Fortunately I have a couple of backups in my pack.... but I forgot to pack my little screwdrivers.... just shoot me! I manage to flag down one of my detecting buddies and he graceously stops his hunt to rescue me. When he returned to hunting, he was promptly rewarded with a beautiful 1876 Seated Liberty Dime with CC mint mark! By the time I get out on the field my brain is fried and I spend the next several hours finding junk while everyone around me was finding ancient coins and wonderful artifacts. That's when I just took a time out to get my head together. After I settled down and ate a sandwich I went back to the field and my training kicked in. I discovered everything I was doing wrong and adjusted accordingly and then the finds started popping out of the iron. There were some amazing finds made over the 2 days at this site by some great detectorists, not by me of course, but I did find a few interesting things and learned an invaluable lesson. Keep a cool head, remember your training, and most of all respect the skills of your mentors! They all did well and deservedly so. I look forward to day that I reach that level of Zen. Well done my teachers! One of my cooler finds was this tiny heart pendant or rosery piece: Here's a dime for size comparison: Unkown disc, possibly a coin or token piece but no discernible markings. Oil lamp wick mount with 1872 & 1873 patent dates: Mostly iron and lead trash:

Great way to start off, F350, and congrats on the rings! I bet those shotgun caps date from the era of the hunting lodge. You're right I'm back to basics with V1.1, but really liking it too and learning even more about the capabilities of the D2. Enjoy your vacation and I'm looking forward to your posts of more great finds! 😎

Yes, I have a Nox 800 too. Keep in mind that Nox came out in 2017. It's been about 6 years. Would you compare two mobile phones 6 years apart?... It's much faster, more responsive, the audio is better, and now you have flashlight and vibration. The battery lasts twice as long and mechanically it turns a thousand times. It's IP68 certified, hard to compare. Without forgetting that it's "only" SF... They are different machines. As a backup of your Nox I do recommend it to take in the car. It's a winning bet! I was out wading last night with the full Strawberry Moon. It's amazing, finish off with Vibrate ON, 5 Tones and Flashlight and Screen ON. All the fish playing around me. Incredible. It was the night of Stainless Steel... Around here, a fellow with Nox has already ordered another one as well.

My main wish for the update was to reduce the iron falsing. Still not perfect but it is now much better for me in my very mild soils. Like a few others on this thread, I am working through combinations of settings to get the optimal performance. In my case I am wanting to find DEEP iron masked targets. The D2 is pretty deadly right out of the box on the shallower masked targets. Those deeper ones are still a challenge. Overall I am happy with V1.10, but I am looking forward to the next update and the improvements it will bring.

I am very lucky I did not have a lot of miles on the other software ver so upgrading didn’t really effect me since my machine is fairly new. I have not been dis-appointed so far other than getting over the small learning curve which really isn’t that bad. Machine is performing well for my conditions.

The 9" round coiltek goldhawk coil is my favourite for the 6000, super quiet, excellent depth and sensitivity. I find I can run it with a lot more sensitivity than the 11" coil. I always run in difficult , after much testing there's not much difference between it and normal, running way quieter and immune to most hot rocks. If I find I'm in an area with bad hot rocks I use the quick track button to ground balance on the hot rock, and that usually helps get rid of them .Next choice is the 12"x7"exceed for a bit more ground coverage. Can't wait to try the 16"x10" exceed.

What does Geosense do? Surely it's not just a name for auto sensitivity and auto tracking of the ground and we don't even know if it does actually adjust the sensitivity at all. I've often wondered what it actually does and nobody seems to really know from what I've been able to see, maybe I've just missed an explanation from someone who knows. This is what Minelab's description of it is GeoSense-PI™ technology analyses and responds to ground signals with great clarity and precision, so you can detect in difficult environments once thought undetectable. It rapidly suppresses unwanted signals via three overlapping feedback systems for superfast detection of even the tiniest gold pieces. So it's a form of auto ground balance that sounds like it's in 3 different feedback systems, what are these so called feedback systems? could it be like on the older GPX where there was sensitive extra, fine gold, enhance and the 6000 runs in all three of these timings Minelab selected as optimal all at once for the ground conditions its in? So maybe according to ground conditions it selects the timings most suitable out of the range it has available for the ground automatically and keeps analysing the ground and if in a difficult situation it changes selected timings? I guess it's Minelab's secret sauce for the GPX 6000 and the engineers probably have a giggle at me when I say I'd like a way to disable it sometimes as then it wouldn't be a GPX 6000 at all 😉 It would be nice to know a little more about such a defining feature of the detector. It could explain why there is no fixed ground balance as using the three different timings at once it needs to constantly check in case ground conditions change enough that one of the timings is no longer suitable. It would also explain why Jason's pointed out if you hit enough bad stuff, like a few big steel bolts shallow or something the detector appears to lose sensitivity and take a while to get it back, as it's switched out to a more difficult timing that's not so sensitive. If it was just the big bolt throwing out ground balance the auto tracking by Minelabs own admission maybe too slow to update and a quick trak is recommended, see here from the manual. GPX 6000™ tracks automatically to changing ground conditions during normal use. It is effective for typical detecting in most grounds. There will be times when the automatic ground tracking will not be able to track fast enough, such as when moving to a different type of ground. In these situations, a Quick‑Trak Ground Balance will quickly recalibrate the detector to the new ground. And for those that say the GPX doesn't track out small gold like the Gold Monster does, again Minelab say it does and when recovering small targets its wise to use quick trak to prevent it happening. I'm sure many of us have experienced targets disappearing when trying to find them with the GPX, especially those of us that hunt small gold. Just like the fully automatic GM 1000 it tracks them out, again from the manual. Quick‑Trak ` Ideal for both new and experienced users. ` Tracks successfully to most ground conditions. ` Detector continuously tracks ground during detecting, but Quick‑Trak may still be used to rebalance to changing or variable ground conditions. ` Ground balances more slowly than Quick‑Trak. ` Quick‑Trak is a manually initiated Ground Balance process for faster ground balancing than Auto. ` Use to ground balance to a chosen area of ground, e.g. patches of extreme mineralisation, hot rocks etc. ` Use in between digging and checking for a target, so that the target is not ‘balanced out’ accidentally. All this Geosense stuff is just a wild theory of course but my understanding of what Geosense could possibly be. Models are usually successors of older models so features we saw on older models are often incorporated into new models like the GPX timings, perhaps in a modern world they were able to automate them and auto adjust which timings you're using while allowing multiple timings at once with the software doing the work to pick signals out of each timings results. We went from having 9 timings on the GPX 5000 to no longer having any on the GPX, although you could say that normal and difficult are its only timings. The conductive setting and the EMI setting on the DD coil don't appear to be associated with timings, more functions of the DD coil. It also detects both small and larger gold at once and handles various ground conditions at once eliminating the need for manually selecting timings like we do on the older models.

This is similar success i have seen running the 6k over Zed covered ground.

The Terra Pro is like a single freq version of the 900. Only downside is the lack of crown cap rejection. At the price, manageable though.

Far out, that's a killer deal. I'd much prefer the original GB2 over the new "improved" version.

Great job on the finds. Nothing wrong with 2 rings. Heck I get crabby when I do not find rings 😆

So not being able to update my Deus2 yet, leaves me watching everyone else. Boy it sure got quiet after v1.1? Did it solve everything, or did everyone unhappy just sell their machines? 🤣

Heard if you smear honey on your coil any unit turns into a bear detector!!! 😃

Ground penetrating radar is the only legitimate system that can do this. We used one on an archaeological survey a couple times, mainly to map out fire hearth’s and potential burials. Good info about it here: https://usradar.com/blog/how-deep-does-gpr-go/

Wow, that’s a really very nice hunt! 👏 Love the Alamo Hotel tag!

June 15 2002 Part Two Jacob was out of his chair and walking up the trail towards the gunfire with Thompson in hand. There was no stopping him. I asked Vern to stay at camp in case someone was trying to lure us away and headed up the trail with Jacob. I continued to try to contact Jim on the radio but there was no answer. I was fearing the worst but hoping for the best. By the time we got up to the location of the pump everything was stone quiet with no sign of Jim. I decided to holler out to him. There was no answer. Jacob and I had taken some cover behind a boulder and I was trying to shine my flashlight into the wooded area of the mountain to see if anyone was out there. It was a waste of time because the trees were thick. Jacob said he didn’t like the setup we were in and now Vern was alone at camp. He told me to go back to camp with Vern and he would keep an eye out for Jim up here. Reluctantly, I agreed and left him with a walkie talkie and I headed back to camp. TO BE CONTINUED ...................

I got out with 1.1 over the weekend for a bit. I went to a foundation that I’ve hunted many times so I could play with some settings on familiar ground. Overall I’m quite happy with is so far, but I really haven’t got to run it enough yet to comment on anything specific.

Sorry, but I’d be asking the manufacturer/dealer that sold you the very expensive product. Hope it works out ok for you but concerned that it won’t 😔

Good job soldier! 😀

Very nice, congrats! 👍

Nice finds! That signet ring is awesome!

Enjoy your stay & keep us posted.

Really nice finds! That Alamo tag is a keeper!

Seeing the bears would have made my day! How cool!

Nice bunch of finds! Looks like you had a good time and dug plenty to keep you busy.

Those are some interesting targets. The newer detectors that have a Conductive Ground Subtraction option certainly perform better when needed for the conditions. Better than having a Beach mode as the only option for Inland. Did you play around with the option to reduce you Max frequency? You can send some of that rain here. We are too dry for this early in the year.

How's this for a tiny sluice? 12" long and 3" wide. $18 on Amazon.

That makes perfect sense for anyone who does a lot of relic or jewelry hunting. 90% of my time is spent coin shooting with a lot of notch. I can see where the spread ID and additional features could be more beneficial to those who relic hunt. Especially the ability to use offset-FT to separate the pitch of low conductors from iron. Speaking of relic hunting... I did score a really neat relic over the weekend. A brass boot spur! I had found plenty of pieces in the past, but never a whole one.

the best and cheapest way to clean coins from the beach

Well now! Just to keep this thread on the subject at hand (detector prospecting) I must say Vegemite and hot dogs will be my next detecting trip lunch. Won't Sourdough Scott be disappointed when he snitches a bit of that.

So Simon are you only half a REAL Oz 🤣 marmite vs vegemite ..... Google Link

Note - I’ve combined this thread with the other thread on the same subject. The question is skewed by the price difference in Oz and the US. I've been quite clear I think the 6000 has the edge for nugget detecting. The easy answer if they are the same price is get the 6000. It's the safe answer. I have not used a 6000 in over a year now, and so getting into the nitty gritty versus the last build version of the Axiom is not really possible for me. I am satisfied to be using the Axiom and quite honestly I just don't care. I had a chance to pick up a 6000 for a song recently to maybe get into the question and passed. I don't need another detector for what I'm doing. Mainly I'd rather let truly unbiased end users speak to the situation given my involvement with Garrett and the Axiom. Plus these days I'd rather just go detecting than spend time in the field splitting hairs over detectors. The interesting questions arise since the differential is small, and the Axiom does have features the 6000 lacks that might matter more in some situations, especially for non-nugget uses. Chase Goldman and the relic hunters in Virginia, for instance, have a whole different view point about the machine. But again, at the same price, let's call it for the 6000 and nuggets. The big question for US users then - is the 6000 worth a 50% price premium over the Axiom? You Oz guys simply have a different situation and Minelab is a safe answer. Here in the US, it's not so simple. $4000 versus $6000 is a real and serious price difference and for some people it makes a genuine difference to consider. Is that $2000 worth it? That, my friends, is an interesting question, and one only answerable by the person involved. For casual users, maybe not. For very hard core users, probably. But that's as much as I intend on getting into it, as again, I think it's best for others with zero connections to industry or brand loyalties to speak to the issue. It is a shame in one way though. If Garrett had come out with the Axiom a year before the 6000, instead of the other way around, it would have shook the detecting world. Honestly people, take the 6000 out of this equation, people would be falling all over themselves to get Axioms, even in Oz. Minelab simply beat Garrett to the punch, and in doing so stole the wind from their sails. But that does not take away from what Garrett has done here, which in my opinion is be the first US manufacturer to make a PI nugget worth mentioning as a real option for at least some people to that offered by the Minelab monolith.

Different pricing story in Australia - Axiom retails for $7385 AUD and the GPX6000 retails for $8000 AUD - so the GPX6000 is only $600 AUD ($360 US) more - not a very significant $2000 US difference. I am guessing that Minelab set the GPX6000 US price first in 2021 at $6000 US , then used the exchange rate at the time ($0.75) to arrive at the Australian price of $8000 AUD. So the big question for Minelab is do they change the price in the US to get closer to the Axiom? If you take the Australian price of $8000 AUD and covert to US (using current AUD $0.60 exchange rate) you get a price of $4800 US - still $800 US more but a big reduction on the current $2000 US price difference. This would generate more sales but would the increase unit sales volume generate more gross margin dollars than they are currently making ? - that is what Minelab would be pondering. They would also have to take into account other Minelab gold machines (how they compare price wise) & any new products on the planning board.

Thank for commenting chuck.And yes as you stated it definitely had a wooden handle.The first two and a half inches with the pin are hollow but the remainng almost 4 inches is solid and quite heavy possibly filled with lead? One thing that i considered was that it was an end cap/stake for a flagpole but the hole is only I inch in diameter which is to small to support a large flag.I like to think that CPT_Ghostlight might be onto something with his Guidon stake opinion.I have been finding quite a lot of military relics and artifacts circa 1830's to mid 1860's in the area and all of the broken bottles, ceramics etc fit that time frame as well. Good to hear from you and I appreciate your wisdom.

Cool Doc ! Maybe Pikes was a brand name ? Pikes Pokin' Poles 😉 I still have a lot to learn about this old stuff and guess that's not necessarily referring to finds only........🙄

There have been numerous threads posted on this subject by experienced detectorists. I always read such posts with great interest as many of my best sites are in some pretty hot red iron ore dirt. About 15 months ago, in an effort to learn and be more successful, I built a test bed using the same mineralized red dirt I hunt in. This test bed has been very educational and helpful. In addition to learning how each of my detectors perform, and how setting adjustments effect that performance, I have noted something unexpected that stood out that can prove to be useful. That is the Ground response signal. It is well known that at a certain depth, coin size targets start to blend into the ground. The coin goes from a good signal & TID, to an iffy signal & poor TID, to gone. The higher the mineralization the more rapid this happens. The ground has swallowed up the coin. What I noticed in my testing is that the coin is still detected, it just reports as a ground signal. Using the Legend, with Disc A you can hear this response. On the swallowed coin it is a good, repeatable report with a solid center & good strength. The TID is a solid 1 and the depth meter will fill. The response from actual ground noise is much weaker and has no center, may or may not give a TID and doesn't show on the depth meter. Having a good Ground Balance is best but this still shows itself running GB at 0. TID 1 must be accepted not notched out. I suppose this behavior is similar to the old way of hunting in All Metal and listening for the Threshold to null over a deep target, just a mirror image. Perhaps like using reverse discrimination on an early TR detector or running a reverse pattern on something like the Etrac. Irregardless, it seems to work consistently and well. The Tarsacci MDT 8000, Vista X and Anfibio Multi using the EUD function also will report these types of masked targets but they do it differently than the SMF Legend and not as distinctly. The next thing I did was to take advantage of the Legend's adjustability and make a special 6 Tone pattern in Field mode M1. I set the first Tone Break at 1 & gave it a nice noticeable high tone with decent volume. The second tone bin runs 2-7 with my normal low ferrous tone & volume. The other bins are set for higher targets. This set up may be possible using other detectors also. Using this pattern, the coin that is swallowed up by the ground gives a good alert & the TID is a solid 1. You can still monitor the actual ground noise, nails still report as iron and other targets give their respective tones. It works well even on trashy sites. In my test bed, the Legend will give a good response on targets at 6,8 & even 10 inches using the 6X9.5 LG24 coil which is surprising. I have only used this special pattern in the field for a few hours. It seems to hold good promise. I did learn that a deep nail will still give the tell tale double hit down the barrel. Also that less that coin size targets give a noticeable weaker response, so the proportional modulated audio works well. There is still more to learn here and time in the field will tell. I think this has good potential to find deeper coins that are masked by the ground and thought others might be interested and want to try it in their mineralized soils also.

You cant go wrong with the NF evolution series coils. Great depth on small stuff

You and I and people like us paid full price. But before that time even there were people paying far less, we just didn't know it then. 🙂 I felt so stupid and embarrassed the day I discovered that basically everyone around me had paid way less than I did for every detector I ever bought, or that you could even negotiate the price down in this game. Especially since I was living off Ramen and that extra thousands in savings at the time would have been a massive amount to me and kept me in the field a lot longer instead of having to drive home and go work and waste valuable time to replenish the savings while I taught myself how to prospect profitably. I had never bought anything from a dealer before that point, as all my vehicles were just junker used trucks, I had no idea anyone would actually negotiate down a retail price in the US for a new item, I assumed they were just set in stone since I'd never seen any different...I didn't go negotiate a Big Mac any more than the local computer shop would negotiate the price of a new graphics card back then either. The thought that I could even try to negotiate a metal detector price never occurred to me until someone finally told me that was the normal game. It still to this day makes me cringe and feel stupid when I think back to how much money I wasted, especially in those days I could least afford to waste it. So yeah, today, price is the only thing that matters to me.

And by the way Ringmoney, feel free to start a thread on AKA and bring us up to speed. Like you asked, why does nobody mention AKA? That does include you also. I post stuff all the time just to be informative. There is no forum rule against others doing the same. I would welcome it!

OK, here is that full but probably incomplete list: Selectable Frequency 1989 Minelab Eureka Ace Dual 8 19.5 kHz 1993 Minelab XT 17000 6.4 32 kHz 1994 Compass X-200 6 14 khz 1997 Minelab XT 18000 6.4 20 60 kHz 1999 Minelab Golden Hawk 6.4 20 60 kHz 2002 Minelab Eureka Gold 6.4 20 60 kHz 2005 Minelab X-TERRA 50 7.5 18.75 kHz 2006 Minelab X-TERRA 70 3 7.5 18.75 kHz 2009 Minelab X-TERRA 305 7.5 18.75 kHz 2009 Minelab X-TERRA 505 3 7.5 18.75 kHz 2009 Minelab X-TERRA 705 3 7.5 18.75 kHz 2009 XP DEUS 4 8 12 18 kHz 2016 Rutus Alter 71 Variable 4 - 18 kHz 2017 Nokta Impact 5 14 20 kHz Multi Frequency 1991 Fisher CZ-6 5 & 15 kHz 1991 Minelab Sovereign BBS 1992 Fisher CZ-5 5 & 15 kHz 1993 Minelab Excalibur BBS 1994 Minelab Sovereign XS BBS 1995 Fisher CZ-20 5 & 15 kHz 1996 Fisher CZ-7 5 & 15 kHz 1998 Minelab Sovereign XS2/XS2 Pro BBS 1998 Minelab Excalibur 800/1000 BBS 1998 Fisher CZ-7a/7a Pro 5 & 15 kHz 1999 Minelab Explorer S/XS FBS 2000 Minelab Sovereign XS2a Pro BBS 2001 White's Beach Hunter ID 3 & 15 kHz 2001 Fisher CZ-70 Pro 5 & 15 kHz 2001 White's DFX 3 kHz & 15 kHz (Simulates single frequency by ignoring half the dual frequency signal) 2002 Minelab Sovereign Elite BBS 2003 Minelab Explorer II FBS 2004 Minelab Quattro MP FBS 2004 Fisher CZ-3D 5 & 15 kHz 2005 Minelab Sovereign GT BBS 2006 Minelab Explorer SE FBS 2008 Minelab Explorer SE Pro FBS 2009 Fisher CZ-21 5 & 15 kHz 2012 Minelab CTX 3030 FBS2 Selectable Frequency or Multi Frequency 2009 White's Spectra Vision 2.5 Khz or 7.5 kHz or 22.5 kHz or all three at once 2017 Minelab Equinox 5 kHz or 10 kHz or 15 kHz or 20 kHz or 40 kHz plus multi frequency options