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Today I only got out for about 3 hours, this post isn't really about the hunt more than testing stuff. This morning I went to an area I have pounded the heck out of, I've probably grid searched it a few times over the last couple years. Here is an older photo, the house and lodge behind it are gone now. I used it to position myself via GPS exactly where it was. This is one of those places where there is so much junk in the ground you really couldn't hunt it without a more sophisticated machine, particularly one that has a fast processor and separation capability. You can notch and discriminate to a point, but there are copper tubing and parts, steel, aluminum, and nails forever. I think the house demolition was very messy. Another change I made to the General program is to turn off Full Tones Offset. I do this because I like the way the machine sounds when going over various materials, general defaults to 5 which pushes tones up. It seems more natural. This is where I may be getting my "Iron is iron" statement. I searched this area and managed to pull a couple more coins out, the rest came from a nearby canal shore. I dug more memorials than Zincolns today, the oldest was 1960. They were all about 4-8" deep, many out of pinpointer range. A couple were mixed in with the metal stuff I ended up with for trash: After a while of having my brain pounded by a ton of tones, I set a notch from 0 to 40 just to hear the better stuff. No pull tabs, can slaw, or iron. I hunted this spot using both the D2 with the 13" and my WS6 Master with the 9" coil, it was slightly easier to pull stuff with the 9" than the 13", some of the targets, particularly the trash, were sometimes off center with the 13". That is to be expected with a larger coil. With the 9" you don't have to dig as wide a hole. 😀

2 rings today my wife got the wave looking one — so 2 925s for us today. Lil bit of change and some cheaper jewelry. Got excited when the gold earring popped out. Thought I had a gold ring at first then my hopes were crushed when it turned out to be cheaper jewelry. 😝 The shark tooth pendant is a nice find too. It’s about an inch long. Back at it tomorrow. Spent most of the morning in the water. Pretty calm for a change on this coast — it was nice to be able to get out in the surf up to my waist without getting slammed by waves. Dug a lot of junk targets too that are not in pictures.

There seems to be an assumption that Minelab is the abuser here, when in fact Quest (Deteknix) was already sued once in the U.S. by Fisher, and lost. The Nokta case also has yet to be decided, so who is to say what the real story is there? Suppressing competition via lawsuits is wrong, but so is ripping off ideas from others.

I haven't had that much fun in a long time. I went to the coast for a weekend with the family and I took the detector with me just in case. As soon as I got to the beach I saw that there was a cut of about 80 CM so the decision to take it with me was a good one. about 3 hours in total, it had been a while since I had so much fun and on top of that some gold came out.

Many thanks Nuke em. Yes, that one had been going around the sea for a while. It does not have any mark and it gives me a very low ID (11-12) for the weight, but the color tells me that it is high carat. The stone looks good... Yesterday the wind changed to the west. This morning 4 rings. I have caught a good cut... The small one is Gold (it's marked), two bigs with stones are silver and the last one is steel. Very happy with the X Terra Pro. 😁

If you don't let a tough site scare you off you will end up a better hunter.

Input welcome. Werid machine to make a cover for. Doc

Got a great run happening this week with a ring every day so far.. The first one was a call-out from a footy player who lost his ring on the oval.. Got a $50 reward for finding it, took about an hour.. Ever try gridding a football oval? It takes a long time to cover.. The other two rings were at a spot where a huge load of sand had been washed away during a very high tide.. They must have been too deep to pick up before but here they were in the top layer of the washout.. I'm getting better at spotting likely locations, it's no longer the hit and miss affair it was years ago.. I'm slowly developing a 'Geosense' as to where rings are likely to be deposited along different parts of a beach.. It's no longer all about luck, experience is starting to play a bigger role..

Spent a couple hours at my favorite beach yesterday and was rewarded with a nice honker of a platinum men's band. Not sure of the exact size or weight yet, but it's probably a 7-8mm regular dome comfort fit between sizes 11-12 and made by benchmark rings. I'm working on locating the person that lost it, but no one reported it at the hotel and it's not on craigslist lost and found. I am really happy for the find, especially since my pt wedding band was stolen in the usps mail last year when I sent it to El Dorado to make an exact copy of it with some my placer gold. Funny thing is that this is the exact same ring as I lost except I wear a size 10 so If I can't find the person that lost it I will try and have it resized. Current retail for $2,240 right now. I know over 20 years ago my wife paid over $3k for the ring that was stolen, but platinum has not risen like gold.

This subject came up on another thread recently and, coincidentally, member King of Bling told me of this YouTube video which just posted today: Pirate Mike finds a gold dental crown at 19:54 and acid tests it at 22:45.

That about sums it up.

I for one still use my V3i as my main detector. I also have an AT-Pro, but I only use it as a backup right now. One thing I can actually say I like about this forum. Whenever you ask a question, someone is willing to provide you with an answer. Not like when I used to belong to the White's forums. You see, the V3i users seem to be a fickle bunch of users. Now don't get me wrong. Whenever I would ask a question about my V3i on the White's forums, I would always receive an answer, but it was something to the effect of, "You just need to put the time in and learn the detector like I did. There are no shortcuts." When all I might be asking was for a little assistance in pointing me in the right direction. And, if you ever asked for assistance in possibly creating a program or adjusting certain settings, you were immediately shunned like you had the plague or something. Just my two cents worth.

Coin shooter for many years before I switched to nugget hunting last 5 yrs but I've used most these tactics for nuggets and old coins. Swing along at a moderate speed and when I find a nugget I start to slow down, find another and slow down even more. When nuggets start to pop up less and less I slow down even more and then I might swap machines (vlf to PI or vice-versa) and re-hunt the area. If the patch has all but dried up I'll hit the patch from a different angle like 90 degrees and CRAWL thru the area digging even more "iffies" than before until I'm satisfied I've done the best I can with the skill and gear I've got.....

I hesitate to say this but the M Core seems every bit as deep as my TDI Pro is on the beach in central Calif recently. While accurately calling out targets strick

You should register with the Geotech1 Forum, where you will find an abundance of info about coil building: Geotech1 forums Unfortunately, the GB2 is one of those "difficult" coils. The combination of high operating frequency, and internal components ( tuning capacitor etc ) , and the fact no-one seems to have reverse-engineered one, means your chance of success are low. I think the GB2 is not the best choice for beach detecting, due to its high operating frequency, and inability to handle the electrically-conductive salt-water sand. It would be better to buy a new machine dedicated to beach hunting, preferably with some degree of water-resistance as a feature.

Well I finally was able to pick up the final coil I was searching for, for my Garrett 24K, the 4x6 and man it is tiny compared to the 14x8 which is currently mounted to my 24K

What a day! Started out all smoggy and still, so I thought I'd try a water hunt today. It was just after low tide, I got in the sound at the end of one of the piers, the water wasn't too cold and there is a nice sandy bottom. Well that didn't last long. 🤣 I heard some good signals but the water was almost neck deep all the way to the seawall. I couldn't dig anything! Switched gears to relic and coin hunting, I went back to the place I was yesterday. It's about 2 acres of tent camping sites. Did pretty good there yesterday with 37 coins, today was even better. It got clear, warm and a bit breezy so it was really pleasant. Got a small flashlight that still works, and a lot of coins. Got near a very old cedar tree and saw this: It was just the top of the iceberg. Spent the next 15 minutes there with my pinpointer finding penny after penny, and 8 keys. Also found a wampum bracelet probably made by a Boy Scout with two pieces of turquoise on it. It was all attached with fishing line. I found a brass General star with the clasp, and an earring with a silver iron cross. Silver! 😀 Had to buy lunch. Here's the take for the morning, ended up with 38 Zincolns and a bit of clad. Also got some memorials. But the best is below, I did not expect to find any old coins here! A very nice 1926 Buffalo Nickel, and a 1930 wheat. Took my wife to lunch, came back and set out again to finish this area up. Got a lot more clad and 10 more Zincolns, but in the middle of it a storm came out of nowhere and it got extremely windy and cold. Also blew the smoke out, we went from 156 air quality to 56 in an hour. I got in a sheltered spot and waited it out My last find of the day was a 1965 quarter in the last corner of this area. 🤣 I knew it was time to go. But that's not all, I dug 3 old buttons today. The first I thought was an old overall button, but it turned out to be an odd duck with a patent date of Feb 7, 1888: And last but not least, an ancient cufflink button and a lead one. Really old stuff. Trash from the morning: And this afternoon: Banner day, 74 coins total and some relics. I was even treated to a rainbow.

Yes it is digital and not like the MXT as it has been compared to. In that regard I have to start learning all over. I replaced the 10 inch double D with a 5.3, 6 inch Concentric inch coil. Digital versus Analog signal (beep) completely different. The ground in this part of WV is "HOT" Plenty of iron contaminated soil. Shale, limestone, Tough. What may be the good thing to this is where I'm at there is many civil war camps along the creeks, Troops had to have been swimming as much as they could, Summer and fall were miserably hot. These camps (have been very good for Me) My finds tell me these camps have not been found by others, The finds have been amazing. Thanks for the reply.

Yep F350, my cure for the pounded brain syndrome is often ample amounts of notch ! 😄

Nice Linde star sapphire. congratulations

Spent the last week on AHRPS, Went to Monte's posts, Selected to read ALL his posts, Still reading them. Always liked his input to the hobby. That and he seemed to be "White's" all the way. Having said that I left the forums for years I really have got way behind. That and I'm coming up on 69 years old. I had been using a couple XL Pros for 20 years, figured that was going to be my last detector. I had been looking at the MXT line and, Well I went for it. The XL Pro was always taken care of. I ended up putting it up for sale so I could afford other coils for the MXT All Pro. Didn't take long for someone to grab up the XL Pro, They still go for high prices. Well i have no regrets with the MXT AP, Intend to keep it till I can no longer detect. Well around a month ago I seen the MX Sport on ebay, the price wasn't bad so right at the last minute I bid on it and ended up getting it, THEN came back to the forums to read up on it. Well I'm stubborn and intend on making it work for me. I haven't got much time on it, I use the Garrett Z-Lynk and a Z-Lynk adapter and Pin pointer, My hearing is bad and it works for me. You'd think I'd stop looking at ebay, couple days ago a IDX Pro came up, 2 coils, Very clean, price also low, AH, Ya last minute I threw a bid, Ah Man, Ya I got it, Waiting on UPS early next week. What am I going to do with three detectors? Other than the MX Sport I had bought "Proven" White's detectors, Some just rise to the known great status. Back in 2001 I had the IDX Pro, liked it tested it along side my XL Pro, It did great, Left that detector with my then girlfriend. Have always seen it as a good all-around detector. (Monte's favorite for YEARS) You all seemed to have made the jump to the VAST markets of Digital detectors, Reading on AHRPS I seen some come, some go, Monte will/did put them thru their paces and told it like it was. For the life of me how someone today, new to the hobby can figure out what to buy is beyond me. Marketing.... Garrett and YouTube made a killing. I didn't know till recently that the AT line wasn't the so called top of the line, But I'm sure they had the market share for some time. For someone new to the hobby all the "Settings" of detectors has to be very confusing, Which brings me back to "Marketing" Including YouTube, Facebook,Forums. Monte also addressed this. I guess the younger generation really goes for technical and digital. Each week something new, New and approved. I think some of us older folks decide to stick with what works and make the best of it. Man the ground here in WV is like cement, I guess being I have a water machine I better learn to walk on water...

Thanks Steve for your time and information. My test piece is about the size Gerry posted in his picture. My 14" nugget finder coil on my 4500 had no trouble. My Axiom would not hear it any part of mono coil. A lead bullet would only be heard on the back past the center of coil. I called Chris Gholson and he gave me info to contact Garret. I sent it in 4 days ago they should have it now. ill post what they find out.

Whoops! Looks like Chat GPT is yesterday's news. The original AI is fighting back. It's now upgraded and miniaturized so everyone can have their own personal AI at home. https://newwavetoys.com/products/zoltar-miniature-fortune-teller-machine It only works if you believe. Believe harder and it works better. (batteries not included)

Digger Dave certainly makes it look way too easy. But I am pleased to see the veteran find a new hobby and a better life.

you can still find gold with the extreme i have get out & give it a swing good luck

Hell Perch from Central Illinois, USA, and welcome to the community.

From Geotech: Coil Basics by Carl Moreland Construction of Coplanar Search Coils - An easy method of making coplanar-concentric search coils Coil Winder - How to make a device that will wind coils from 3 inches to 24 inches in diameter Making a Fast Pulse Induction Mono Coil - An easy method for making fast PI search coils The three Gold Bug 2 coils are all concentrics. A DD coil was prototyped but never went into production.

Doc, Took the Qweegle out for a test run and it worked just fine. First reaction is how much relief my right arm got - basically letting me swing all day without discomfort. I did have to switch from left side support to right side support and I'm still searching for the proper length. But I'll get that in a trip or two. Got four nuggets totaling 1.3 grams. Thanks.

Trust me.....you won't quit thinking about it until you buy it. 🤔

That mower is cool city ! Excello post ! The one I had to push didn't have a motor though.🙄

yes, they are silver

True, and there are fewer coins and more garbage. But I don't think it's a problem only in Spain. Let's use our detectors and their depth to go back a couple of decades... Last night I decided to go to a small cove with difficult access. It is visited by local people and tourism that accesses by private boat. Gold had already come out there and these last winds have moved the entire seabed. I put on the neoprene and into the water! Very few objectives, not a single euro coin. Some old iron and aluminum and when passing some rocks, in a patch of no more than two square meters, old peseta coins began to come out... That tool that I think is from a ship and Bang! Another old Gold ring. 5,74 gr. and I have to review that stone more carefully. It sounded bad and little, but it sounded... At first there was no ID, but it sounded weak in the background, one more Scoop...jumpy ID 8-12 and grunts of iron. I have already taken some more with stones and edges and the sound is peculiar, they do not sound "round" like wedding bands. I had been in the water for over an hour with hardly anything coming out. Returned home at 01:36 a.m. Open Mind...

Welcome to the forum and glad to have you with us. I am sure that we can expect good things from you in the near future. What things are you hunting for down there and what type of detector do you use. Good luck and stay safe out there.

Welcome from North California and thanks for serving.

I can't take any of NYC's vid's....creepy uncle fester looking dude 🤪

In theory it sounds interesting,but in reality would not be the best way forward as single freq machines are not the best option for wet beach sand,so in my mind it would be a total waste of time....the best way forward if you want to do your own coils would surely do a PI kit which can be purchased pretty cheap infact very cheap and then make the coil which is pretty easy and alot easier than VLF coil designs. All ready that has been suggested is the Geotech1 forum,some serious electronic boffins on that forum,regarding the Gold Bug2 i personally think it would be a total waste of time going down that route.

Sorry, but I’d be asking the manufacturer/dealer that sold you the very expensive product. Hope it works out ok for you but concerned that it won’t 😔

If the picture I’m seeing is correct, It’s known as a Long Range Locator (LRL) and as far as I know they are a complete scam. No better than divining rods. I’m sorry to have to tell you that because it’s a very costly scam.

The 2023 of Queen Elizabeth 11 and 100 years of VEGMITTE

Hope you enjoy these two YouTube Video

I'm sure AI or even someones pet donkey could write a better top 10 best detector list than most of the ones I've seen on the Internet.

Thanks Rick for passing the Pantera "torch" to me!!😁👍 And thanks too the rest who have added to this post, as information on the Pantera is hard to find elsewhere!! I'm doing my best to keep my Tesoro's in play!! Really gonna miss Monte Berry's expertise on them!😔 So any of you offering your "two cents" on DP forum is much appreciated, for any models that you loved! BTW, I have both Clean Sweep coils (4 and 5 pin) and the Bigfoot for my MXT All Pro!! Not gonna sell anytime soon!🤔 It's a sickness, I know!! 🤪🍀👍👍

That was what was confusing me with the Legend Thresholds for a while, I did not realize that in Park,Field and Beach a reference threshold was being utilized and in the Gold field mode the Legend utilized a true Threshold, it took me a bit of investigating to finally figure it out and what the differences in the two actually was, a lot of researching and reading, one of the best reads I found was posted up by someone on another site he went by Rudy, his article pretty much helped me to figure it out in the end here is that article I was referring to https://metaldetectingforum.com/index.php?threads/confused-about-threshold-vs-volume.15979/

Hello everyone, This is the first time I've joined a forum, and the first time I've posted anything. I appreciate the expertise of all the forum members as my most of my knowledge of metal detectors has come from this forum. One of the most common questions that a newbie asks is "what is the best metal detector for (fill in the blank)?". Of course, a veteran detectorist realizes that a knowledge of how different types of detectors operate must be gained before an educated decision can be made. A basic knowledge of electronics is required, and ones knowledge increases incrementally as one gets familiar with the operation of a detector. With time one begins to understand what detectors will work for the type of detecting one is doing. There is a lot to know to become an expert. It requires a dedication , passion and a thirst for knowledge. My main interest is gold prospecting so most of my focus is on detectors that are for this. I still have a lot more to learn, but I feel much more comfortable now that I know what I know. The good thing is the more you know, the better equipped you are to teach others which is the best part. Thanks Steve for creating this forum and doing your part to keep prospecting alive!

Thanks guys. The forum is well past 10 years old now. The major building effort is behind me, and I now am just tuning it to be for the core participating membership. I'm not trying to be the biggest forum or anything like that. The current membership levels are fine, and the kind of members I am interested in won't care a bit about the new restrictions. If people really care and want to genuinely participate with a group of really good people, then 10 posts and 30 days is nothing. Guys like the last one that wanted to grab a file and be gone are just takers, and nobody here will ever miss them. I'm not sure what the future of forums is and I have no grand plans for this one. At this point I'm content to try and keep it humming along with as little oversight as possible on my part. I have zero online presence anywhere but here at this point and honestly am just barely checking in here these days. So if anyone sees things that seem not right please let me know. The key thing is drama. This website is for people that hate drama and if anyone is causing drama please let me know via PM or a report so I can either get them in line, or get rid of them. My thanks to those who have been assisting me in this manner.

So the Deus 2 did well, the Nox 800 had an ID spread of 5 digits, the Nox 900 had an ID spread of 18.... to me the 900 did terrible and I'd want to wrap it around a tree, a 10 ID spread would be more what you would expect with a larger ID range wouldn't it? I'm not sure how big the ID range on the 900 is, I think it has more than the Manticore. I haven't paid much attention to the 900 as I don't want one. I've gone from getting direct hits on coins with 1-3 ID spread on my Nox 800 to now having 10 to 15 ID spread on the Manticore almost always up-averaging too. It's no cherry picker 🙂 I might have been better off with the Deus 2 for someone that likes Target ID's, at the moment I've gone back to using the Nox and CTX for coins as the Manticore has me digging too many holes in places I don't want to dig holes as I want to keep access and digging too much isn't the best way to do that. The Manticore can be my beach machine, It's likely awesome there where you don't care about holes! Hopefully with the small coil it makes for a good nugget machine too.

As far as the Garrett purchase, a less than speculative answer might be to have kept the name out of Chinese or India counterfeiter hands. Fact is those people were already making near perfect copies in low cost facilities. All they needed was the rights to the name to be able to legitimately sell those copies in the U.S. market. Instant capability to ship with just a few decals changed. Making the buy basically eliminated a potential low cost competitor for Garrett, armed with a big name. Because otherwise as you and I know well, despite what many seem to think, the company had little of value. People should thank Garrett for at least making sure we are not looking at dirt cheap “White’s” detectors made overseas.

Hey that's pretty cool. It's like a six year old repeating the ads on television. Clever. Somethings fishy though. I tried ChatGPZ 7002.1 (newest version) and it came up with the same stuff - different theme. ME: what are the keys to being a successful fly fisherman? GPZ7: The keys to being a successful fly fisherman include having the right equipment, researching the area you are going to fish in, understanding the signals given by your fish, and having patience. It is also important to be aware of the laws and regulations in the area you are fishing in, and to be respectful of the environment. Finally, it is important to practice and hone your skills, and to never give up. ME: What is the best advice you could give to a new person starting to learn fly fishing? GPZ7: The best advice for a new person starting to learn fly fishing is to start small and simple. Begin by researching the basics of fly fishing and the different types of rods available. Then, practice with a basic rod in an area with plenty of room. As you become more experienced, you can upgrade to a more advanced rod and search in more challenging areas. Finally, be patient and never give up. ME: What is currently the best fly rod available? GPZ7: Currently, the best fly rod available is the Fish Master GPZ 7001. This rod is designed for serious fly fishermen and is capable of fishing at distances of up to 12 kilometers. It features advanced technology such as ZWT (Zero Weed Transmission) and Multi-IQ, which allow it to fish in a variety of weather conditions. Darn thing sounds pretty smart. It's almost exactly like the LUTs we used to build in the old days to create the illusion of interaction in machine controller input. It always amazed me that a large percentage of the users actually believed the controller was responding to their input on a sentient basis. Heck most shops taped a name on the controller interface. HAL was popular, so was Robbie (the robot?). Personally I think HAL or even Robbie is more iconic and recognizable than ChatGPT. I'm wondering why the creators didn't ask ChatGPT what name it would like to have? Maybe they did but didn't like the name or pronouns the program chose. Maybe ChatGPT wanted to be called Chelsea Weasel Clown and instead the creators named it ChatGPT to punish it. ChatGPT is a pretty lousy name.

Garrett has a link to most Whites Manuals. ......Whites Manuals.....

Steve, thank you so much for putting this forum together. I hadn't spent any time or posted on any forum for years for all the reasons you talk about. Then I found detector/prospector and fell in love. This is the only forum I go to anymore and I love what you are doing. great job and THANK YOU!