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  1. I just posted some finds this past Monday about the M8 finding small gold. One of the targets I found a few days ago was a small 10K toe ring. I haven't found a gold toe ring in several years. I went out again this morning and found 2 more 10K toe rings. The first one found today is identical to the one I found a few days ago, and the other one has a heart pattern on it. They all have the same manufacturers stamp inside. The small chain earring unfortunately is marked 1/20th 14K. The big coin is a 100 Colones from Costa Rica. So... 3 gold toe rings within a short week after having a dry spell of several years. One of them had an ID of a solid 3. Not sure about the other. Still digging some iron just to see what this coil is all about. Looking forward to tomorrow morning.
    8 points
  2. I took it out for the second time today to do a little day trip. I'm liking the Bogenes program. I can't believe how small some of the bits of rusty iron are. Head of a pin size. I have no doubt the Axiom will find tiny tiny gold running Bogenes. As for today I managed two pickers.
    4 points
  3. Well, I had to really work to find them 4 lil bits. And they could have possibly been left by Klunker because he is tired of digging small bits. I really enjoy running the 6000 in hilly areas. It's just plain lighter and you can place the coil in more areas over the course of a day because of that. I'm running the 6000 with a 12x7 NF on the difficult with the lowest possible sensitivity. But in all fairness, I've found super tiny bits with the 7000.
    4 points
  4. 6000 vs 7000 people are really missing the point here on the settings they are using. If you run a 6000 in difficult, wiggly lines, however you want to call it. You can miss gold at a certain size and depth. That same nugget two inches deeper and the 6000 will get it. The 7000 in difficult has less of a problem with this phenomenon, although it is still present. I have good evidence to back this up. Look at the last minute or so from this video and it will prove it. this video is testing the algoforce but just by chance I witnessed this exact situation when running the 6000 over the test nuggets.
    4 points
  5. If you keep a diver out of the water for more than a week, it goes bad like fish. Not to rot during this lousy time of zero visibility and bad waves, I went back to the little miracle spot on wetsand today. Although I had returned yesterday with a 6", no signal was in range and quite disappointed and tired I returned home after two hours. Instead, this morning I was with the 11" retracing the same steps. After more than 4 hours with my arm wrecked and all too much aluminum dug out, as I was leaving the beach I was swinging the detector just enough not to keep it off and really stumbled upon an unmistakable signal. I titled the previous post "seriously?"...Well this must be the second act. After 20 years, I continue to experience the wonder of certain days. The spark of gold can make you forget even that you are broken.
    3 points
  6. OK, please realize these are prototypes. However, I can tell you aside from the attachment ring in the Upper Strut of the DALAS being too large, this thing is amazing. I wanted to do a video but it is so windy today it would have not been ideal. So let's look at the Detector Air Lift Assist Stick and the OPTIONAL Detector Air Lift Assist Strap. There are four parts aside from the QWIPPLE BUNGEE on the stick. #1 The Paddle, #2 the lower Strut, #3 The upper Strut, #4 The DALASystem Slide Clip. #1 The paddle slips into the waistband in the middle of your back. This has a female thread for you to screw in the lower strut to adjust to your "WIDTH" It is very generous, and if you don't need that much excess simply saw off the excess with a hacksaw. The entire DALAStick is made of Nylon with infused fiber glass for amazing strength. WARNING! - DO NOT try to secure this adjustment with a screw. it needs to be able to move freely front to back. #2 The lower strut screws into the paddle as explained above to give your the width adjustment. I recommend you keep the rod as close to your ribs as comfortable. This way your arm does not bump into it. #3 The upper strut has a female thread that attaches to the male thread on the lower strut to give you a generous height adjustment. This strut has two guide holes so when you find that perfect adjustment you use the provided drill bit, drill a hole approx. 1/4 inch deep through the upper strut into the threaded portion of the lower strut to lock your adjustment in. WARNING!!! Do not drill holes or secure the upper rod in place until you have put the weight of a detector on the upper strut. You need the weight of the detector to show you what the proper height adjustment should be. If you are very short, you may want to saw off some of the upper threaded part of the lower strut. However you can only cut off approximately 1 1/2 inches. The male thread you see showing in the picture is the maximum you can cut off. I recommend you mark all adjustments with a Sharpie so you always know where your width adjustment should be on the paddle. #4. The DALAStick Slide Clip. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE DALAStick and optional DALAStrap (That ring where the QWIPPLE attaches will be approx. 2 inches in the production units.) You do not have to use the strap, it is available as an optional accessory. The DALAStick will work with your harness rig. I do advise that you may want to mount a ring lower down on your shoulder strap. I'll explain why in a minute. THE FRONT OF THE UPPER STRUT has two guide holes for you to drill and screw in the provided screws to lock in your height adjustment. The lower rod screws into the comfort paddle and can be adjusted for maximum comfort. As I have mentioned before, in order for the weight of your detector to be properly redirected, the movement of the DALAStick can not be impeded in any way. Anything that interferes with the ability of the DALAStick to move freely up and down transfers the weight to whatever is interfering with that movement. That is why it is important that your "D" ring attachment point or "O" ring attachment point is low, so as not to impede the movement of the DALAStick to slide inside the SLIDE CLIP. If the "D" ring is too high the DALAStick SLIDE CLIP will stop at the "D" ring and the weight will be transferred to your shoulder. I have been wearing this around the house for three hours. It's like it's not even there. When you bend over it moves with you because it rotates inside the paddle. Already I can see that the "O" ring and the sleeve on the DALAStrap needs to be lowered and adjusted because it is too high. So it's a process. I went outside and hooked up my GPZ7000. LOL it now weighs nothing. Literally nothing. All that happens is the weight of the detector is transferred to the paddle which pushes your waistband out and away from you. I can tell you, that once you use this, you will not be without it. If you're someone who suffers with arm and neck and back problems; your legs will wear out before your swinging arm. Congratulations to Valens Legacy for using the word STICK in one of his posts. Valens message me your address. Your gifts are a rechargeable headlamp, The New Nugget Stalker® Nugget Stash. And Doc's Nugget Stalker® genuine cowhide nugget pouch. No the quarter is not included it's there as a size reference. Carry on fellow Treasure Hunters. Doc
    3 points
  7. I wasn't able to get a photo of the fleck but here is the meteorite.
    3 points
  8. Your comment about the six going from no signal to a screamer in a short distance is so true. My mate and I were out detecting yesterday and I had this situation arise twice. I went to a shallow rock bar that had produced a few small pieces on previous trips. I decided to move some rocks so that I could get the coil a bit closer to the bedrock. Initially I checked a small area for any evidence of a signal and then a thin piece of shale type material was removed. When the shallow water cleared, I could see the bedrock below and ran the coil through that area. The six screamed. After a bit of fluffing about, a small nugget was retrieved. In another situation, I ran the 10x5 coil over some damp bedrock that had a thin layer of clay sitting on it. It was potentially a good area to trap a piece of gold. When I ran the coil over the clay, the machine didn’t have a break in the threshold but gave that sort of low pitched moan type sound that tells you there is something there that it needed to react to. It was very much like the sound you get when you run over some mildly mineralised ground. As it was in one confined area, a scrape with the pick was in order. About half an inch of clay was removed and the area was detected again. The machine reacted in protest. Again, a small piece of gold ended up in the rattle jar. When working mullock heaps that contain gold, removing material an inch at a time before detecting often pays dividends. This issue is more evident with the smaller coils (which is to be expected). There was a comment earlier about running in normal. It is fantastic if you can and does produce outstanding results. In the area that we are currently working you could run both machines in normal if you wanted to. The only issue would be that running in normal would reduce the life of the detectors…………. Within ten minutes they would be wrapped around a tree and have huge rocks dropped on them from a huge height.
    3 points
  9. This one is for the button fan, I dug a 1926 wheat in another field but that was it for the coins. Invited Chase up for one of the last hunts here, a new 100 acre permission that I didn't find much in before, we set out to scout the other half of it that I didn't get to. It's a huge field that had beans on it last year, usually I prefer to hunt in bean stalks but this one is tough, the stalks are too tall. We ran into a farmer friend who told us this is because when they are rushing to get the beans before a rain, they lift the combine collector and don't cut them short. The stalks become really stiff by spring and are very hard to walk on, they chip at your shoes and can go through your hand or foot if you're not careful. 😬 We set out heading to the other side of the field, Chase went ahead and hunted around the old barn, I think he got a couple of wheats there. I walked up the center of the field not expecting anything, I had crisscrossed this field before and found literally nothing. Got a 47 and dug this rolled copper "tinkler" that was traded with the Indians: https://www.nativetech.org/metal/tinkle/tinkle.html It would be a "point" or arrowhead if it had a point, these were hung on their clothing and they jingle. I immediately went into circle mode, making a spiral around the place I found the first object, and hit 3 buttons. By this time Chase was way across the field, so I noted where I found this stuff and joined him to scout the rest of the place. We found next to nothing, I got just a few buckle bits. We decided to go back to this "hotspot" and the buttons just kept coming, I think between us we found well over 20. Small cuff buttons, medium buttons, a couple large, both brass and Tombac. They were everywhere in about an acre or so. What I thought might be a pretty bad day turned out to be a great one, I got all this: 16 buttons and a bunch of other brass stuff. Chase did as well. When things wound down we quit for the day, but there are certainly more there. Here's the trash, only a handful but I got fooled by a few bits of big iron today: I was using Relic exclusively, with the 13" coil on the Deus 2, with reactivity at 1 and Audio response 7. Some of the buttons were over 10" deep! We found other artifacts that deep too. Sadly we found no coins in that spot. We think it was an area where people got together and traded stuff in the 1600s and 1700s, and possibly with the Indians as well. This is a great example of how you really have to search a farm to find the hotspots, it takes a lot of determination and some really good guesses. You just can't give up! There may be another hotspot here, there is a part of the field we didn't go to, but we'll get there. 🍀
    3 points
  10. Sourdough Scott and I played hooky and snuck out detecting between storms. I took him to a place and showed him where I found a few bits once before which was about a 30' x30' knob of bedrock. I went over it one more time with the 7000 and found nothing so I figured I would send Scott there with his 6000, knowing that I had left absolutely nothing. Dang it! The son of a gun found 4 bits that the 7000 missed. I got skunked that day but I'll eventually get over it. So I can't say which detector is the best for final cleanup.
    3 points
  11. Watched the video again to catch some more details. Carbon fiber mid and lower shafts. The coil cable is inside the shafts. IP69 waterproof. 2.65 pounds. More flexible multi frequency choices as in the user has more autonomy over which frequencies are being used simultaneously......I think he was saying that. The wildest part for me is I think he said ground penetrating radar twice with some kind of multi colored graph like a Whites V3i with a different color for each metal. He specifically mentioned iron, gold, copper and silver would each have a different colored graph line........and then he said he didn't see how that would work in Russia since all of the jewelry there is heavily alloyed!!!......GPS satellite capable with SIM card. $1200 version has a coil, wired headphones, wireless headphones (I think he said Koss) and a pinpointer (probably pairs wirelessly). The $870 version is just the detector and coil with no extras. April 5th launch and April 17th goes on sale. Don't shoot me, this is what the video maker said with some room for mistakes by the auto translator and my bad Russian language skills. Basically I can grunt and moan in Russian!
    2 points
  12. I just got permission to detect a large piece of land in a well known gold bearing area. It is private land that nobody has been prospecting for many many years. Everything around it is claimed up tight. It's hard to describe how excited I am about this permission. I will have miles, not acres to hunt. 😁😁😁
    2 points
  13. Not too mention all of those pesky empty spinach cans Up Ta Camp.🤮
    2 points
  14. Apparently that Indian artifact that jingled still has some powers. Been raining since you found it 😞 Nice run!
    2 points
  15. That was my point. The 7000 is king for depth. The 6000 is deadly on the small shallowish stuff but loses its punch for depth quickly. Going from a banger of a signal to dropping off very quickly. You have to have a very keen ear & be on your game to catch those very faint whispers that are deeper down with the 6000, but they are there. Same old scenario though, one detector doesn't do it all so the 6000 & 7000 complement each other. You are on to it. On another note gold has broken through the NZ$3,700 mark. Actually NZ$3,738 an ounce. Happy days. No wonder Pioneer Pauly has been coming over here making a pig of himself on our gold. He loves the place. D4G
    2 points
  16. Got my coil today and took it to the park near me for a quick run through. I've never used the small coils and man this looks like I have a tiny tupperware lid on the end of a stick. I didn't recover anything earth shattering but it did as expected. I'm going to take it to the beach tomorrow and run it all over the wet sand and see if I can drudge anything up. I have to admit I feel kind of inadequate with it on there and I'm not compensating for anything. Hopefully i can bring home some gold.
    2 points
  17. My kids are always telling me I look like Bruce Willis. Poor Bruce, fortunately my faculties are still intact, and my wife is way hotter than Demi Moore. Doc
    2 points
  18. September 12 2002 Part One Searching For The Bottom This morning it was raining off and on and the temperature was in the low 50’s. It seems like the big heat has gone for now and been replaced with miserable mining weather. Jacob and Big Clay are working at the dig site while Conor and I process gravels from our stockpile. The new tom is working out for us and is simple to use. I don’t think it’s quite as effective as the trommel but it doesn’t break down either - unless someone clobbers it with a skid steer bucket. I drove up to the dig site after lunch and had a look at the trench. Jacob had turned the northerly cut into a widened out cut and had once again reset his digging position to get deeper. He was down a good 30 feet or so and trying to find bedrock. All of us wanted to see what the material was like at the bottom. Jacob saw me watching and waved me over to his machine so he could talk to me. He said he had test panned more samples from the 30 foot level and they looked to be quite rich. He was convinced that the bottom would contain a big strike. He said he was widening out the cut and the gold was still heavy in the gravels as he dug in a westerly direction. The cut was now 40 feet long by 20 feet wide and 30 feet deep with still no sign of bedrock. There was a wall of granite that sealed the back of the dig to the north as well as the east. He had dug through a big shale layer around the 20 ft depth and then right back into gravels loaded with iron and gold. It was a real reddish material and full of coarse black sand. Jacob was a little concerned because he figured if he didn’t hit bedrock soon he would have to increase his footprint even more and that meant opening up a lot of worthless ground. He said the good thing was that the pay layer was thick. Nearly 25 feet thick so far and still going deeper. I told him to give it hell and radio me if he hit bedrock. He gave me a thumbs up and got back to digging. TO BE CONTINUED ............
    2 points
  19. Wondering how many out detectorists here while out looking for gold also pick mushrooms, berries and such when in season? I'm always looking. I look for Morels and Bolet mushrooms, goose and elderberries. What do you look for in your neck of the woods?
    1 point
  20. So, we've had a lot of positives so far, and well deserved too however, now's the time to point out some other things that need to be known. As I've talked about in previous posts with it being such a sensitive PI machine it picks up the coil cable, especially with smaller spiral coils, not so much the bundle wound coils like the Sadie. Generally, this isn't too much of a problem and you only notice it putting down or picking up the detector when it sounds off on the cord moving, however if in bushy or rocky areas that coil cable can get moved around a bit causing false signals. The supplied Velcro straps will hold the cable in place however not in position, if you want it in a certain spot so it doesn't move plastic clips are a far better option. I've managed to find my plastic clips, and fitted one, now my cable is in a much better position than with a strap that allowed it to slip around the shaft, this will help a lot with the coil cable being detected. I don't know much about the clips, they maybe something designed for another purpose and someone discovered them and packaged them up as a detecting product and sells them off for a good markup, either way this place is where I got mine. They fit the Algoforce shaft perfectly and come in a pack of 8 clips. Next, the USB power bank shape can be beneficial too. The design is quite well thought out with 2 straps that hold it in place, and a rail sliding bar with a hump at the end to hold it there, along with rubber pads on the rail to give some grip. You can adjust the length of the rail by loosening a couple of thumb screws with your fingers, expanding it out to fit your battery and locking it in place again, then the little lump at the end helps the battery hold in place. This lump could probably do with being a little bit bigger, but it can't be too big as the USB ports on the battery bank and right there too so if it were bigger, it may cause some problems with some battery banks. I found with mine the lump is too small as I've purchased a Belkin 20000 mAH which seems an awesome product, I've always liked Belkin gear, they've been around for decades but its a very rounded battery bank so the lump doesn't do the job as well as it could and my battery bank does tend to move a bit, I'll sort out a solution here, perhaps some sticky Velcro on one of the rubber pads, and on the battery bank to line up and give that little bit more stick, it really wouldn't take much to lock it in tight. This is the Belkin, if only it had square edges 🙂 I have another battery bank laying around which appears a much better design for a detector. The one below is another one with more Sqaure edges that holds in a lot easier, with minimal effort. Solar panel on top. On the bottom a torch and a little clip, it has very square edges so mounts into the Algoforce more solidly, that clip could potentially be used to lock it in even better, I've not looked into that yet although I doubt it would be needed. This one also has a rubber housing giving even more grip. Really with one like this there is absolutely no problem, so something to keep in mind when buying a power bank. Next up, wireless audio, I've got an MPow atpX LL transmitter, it fits perfectly onto the back of the control pod with some adhesive Velcro on the transmitter and on the detector, I had no problems with this, even in my wild bushy hilly terrain, it held on no problems at all. The thing I am going to change is the audio cable, I'll get one with right angle connectors on it, that way they don't stick out and I'll be able to use a Velcro strap to hold the cord in place nicely, if I can't find one the right length, I'll just make one, the right angle 3.5mm plugs can be bought at Jaycar and I'd imagine any good electronics parts retailer, or online of course. I noticed no extra EMI induced by having the transmitter on the control pod, it appeared to cause no issues at all. You'll note it has a little rubber cover to put into the socket if you're not using headphones, a great thing to have and can be removed and stored away if you're having headphones or a transmitter in there permanently. Next up, the battery holder straps. Positioning of these is vital to ensuring a good tight fit of your battery, having them tight means the little rail and rubber lump are not near as necessary, and to tighten them I've found this is the best positioning as then the clip is out of the way, if it's in the wrong position it will prevent a tight fit. Now, the cable from the power bank to the detector itself, it goes up into the handle up plugs into the detector inside the handle using a USB C connector, wise as this is now the standard and remaining that way. The other end of the supplied cable is USB A, I'd imagine they've done this for compatibility as older power banks won't have USB C but on mine at least it means the cable is offset on the side of the battery bank, making it more exposed to being hit by branches or rocks. By using the centre USB C port on my power bank I'll be able to route the cable up onto the shaft to keep it out of the way. This is the USB A plug end on the supplied cable for those unsure what USB A is. Now, even better there are USB C to USB C cables with a right angle at one end, you only want it at one end as inside the detector pod you need a straight plug, but on the power bank if you plug in a right angle one to the centre USB C port such as on my power bank the cable can be secured so it's well hidden from obstacles hitting it, the right angle cables come in various lengths, I'll work out the exactly length I need and order it today, 25cm should be the right size I think. Last but not least, the exposed USB ports on the power bank are going to get dirty, dusty and all sorts of things stuck in them, potentially damaging them or the battery bank, even water from sitting the detector down on wet grass seeing they're right near ground level. An easy solution to this is little silicone USB port covers you can buy. I've bought ones for USB A as I'm not going to use those ports and be USB C to USB C. Amazingly this Belkin battery is going to give me over 20 hours detecting on a charge, probably a few more hours than that. Makes some other detectors battery sources seem a bit problematic running out so quickly. On another note, my Sadie just arrived. These are a few little niggly annoyances or just things it is wise to know about the Algoforce so if you're buying one you can be better prepared. They're not necessarily faults with the detector but more advice on suitable products to improve it even further.
    1 point
  21. If the video is even half correct it sounds like a great detector to me. People doubted Nokta could make a detector to even come close to the Equinox, well they made an Equinox. Garrett have just as much potential to bring something good to market and they didn't buy out Whites for nothing. Really excited to see what they've done.
    1 point
  22. I just came back from a trip to Gold Basin. As we know there are meteorites there. I found one about 80 grams. When it was washed off and brushed I could see some tiny yellow shinny spots. I've found lots of Gold Basins but I don't remember and of them with gold in them so I did a search. That search introduced me to a concept that many have that much of our mineable metals, including gold came to earth with meteor showers. If true this could explain a lot of unexplainable patches in different areas. Here is a primer from one of the AI tools, Copilot. This is new for me and might take a while to have my brain wrap around it after all of the info about gold being molten and coming up with eruptions. Someone help me understand this. Did meteorites bombard Earth with gold? | EarthSky https://earthsky.org/earth/did-meteorites-bombard-earth-with-gold/
    1 point
  23. A forum friend and I went out to an area that John B said had meteorites and I found a couple. One is 83.4 grams and the other is 4.6 grams. I've found meteorites for years on John B's property, but these were not on it. Thank you, John. As this meteor was coming in it gained a fushion crust from the heat. It broke up into many pieces and you can see cracks in this one. It was down in the redish soil about 4 inches. I was told other larger meteorites were found in the same area. I've washed this one off and you can see the partial fusion crust illuminated by the flashlight. When this one was cleaned I observed some tiny flecks of gold color which I don't remember on other meteorites. I started that thread first but I'm not able to get a fleck on camera. This was found with my 7000/15CC X-Coil. Other magnetic rocks were found in the area but this is a classic meteorite for the area.
    1 point
  24. This is from the CTX 3030 manual. Volume Gain Range: 1–30 Factory Preset: 24 Volume Gain controls the amplification of a target’s audio response, relative to the target signal strength. This audio setting is most similar to volume adjustments in other devices (e.g. radio or television volume controls). With a setting of 1 the target signal will not be amplified. Weak target signals will sound quiet, medium target signals will sound mid-range and strong target signals will sound loud. There will be greater differentiation between target signal strengths; however, weak signals will be harder to hear. With a setting of 30, all target signals will be amplified to a loud audio response. At this setting there will be less differentiation between medium and strong signals, but weak target signals will be easier to hear I've put into bold what I think the GPX 6000 has incorporated into its audio, as targets can go from scream to nothing with the smallest amount of depth, especially small targets like pellets and small gold. I believe this is part of what makes people think the 6000 is a magical detector on small gold, by having the faint target signals boosted it appears to be much more powerful on smaller gold than it in fact is which is evident by how quickly the signal falls off. Yes, it's a very good detector on small gold, but some of it is trickery done with software. You just need to use a coil like the 8" on the GPZ and then use the 6000 with the 10x5" coil and experience a number of smaller targets like pellets and gold and you would start to see what I'm saying is very likely correct with the differences in audio responses vs target depth between the two. There is a reason the 6000 goes from a screamer to barely a target at all on a small pellet with only a cm or two of depth difference, in fact a lot of people were confused and talking about disappearing targets with the 6000 recovering these tiny bits, I wonder why that could be? they don't need to move far to go out of range so flattening out the pile is the way to go. Confusing a loud screamer like that can just disappear.... yet when you understand how the audio works it makes more sense. I use the CTX a lot on this "30" setting, so the behaviour was very familiar to me when I started using the GPX.
    1 point
  25. Price reduced. Solid Tesoro Vaquero for sale. Comes with stock 8x9 coil. I don't need 2 of them, so decided to sell one. $275 shipped to lower 48. I can accept PayPal ff, or postal money order.
    1 point
  26. A great deal! I'd buy it if I didn't have one already.
    1 point
  27. Thanks kac, Now ya got me wondering... 🤔 😬 Mebbe I should put it back. 🫤 On second thought, I did possibly move the rain to weekdays instead of weekends, so... You're welcome. 🤣
    1 point
  28. Very clean machine. Good for those nail beds. Surprised it hasn't been scoffed up yet.
    1 point
  29. That's not what my girlfriend says.😂 All jokes aside. I am with you there Gold Catcher. D4G
    1 point
  30. Here are some pictures of 3 successful hunts using the M8 on the wet salt beach. The little gold pendant has what I think to be a garnet with tiny diamonds weighing in at 1.4 grams. The other picture showing 2 pieces of gold side by side weigh .4 grams on the 10K thin ring and .8 grams on the 10K toe ring. Another picture shows how this coil is hot on finding open earrings of which some are silver. The "gold" disc pendant is plated over steel. That one had me take notice for a minute or two until I put my magnet next to it. The chain was the deepest I have ever dug one, probably 10 inches. I was hoping it was 10k and heavily corroded but alas... just plated copper. Haven't had much time in the water with the coil yet but so far so good.
    1 point
  31. Much worse feeling at the beach man where everybody use bigger coil like 11' 15' and 17' and when I look the beach as far as the eyes can see makes me wonder why the heck I'm using m8 lol.. but I use m8 mainly because of necklaces hunt same like @okara gold .. would love to know your opinion on m8 at the beach later on..
    1 point
  32. You are right phrunt. Coil sizes and types do make a difference. I’ll take the 6 back with the 10x5 attached to try and sniff out some small pieces. It would have been good to have both detectors on site at the same time but I’m not that keen to carry two machines the long distance required for this exercise. My mate and I have always done a lot of comparison testing on live undug targets just for the fun of it. When ever new coils or machines come out we often grab a couple of detectors and search hard for some faint signals and then run the different coils/machines over them using a range of settings. I’m not a big fan of planting targets unless there is no other real option. Some people say that we are wasting prospecting time doing this but we don’t care. We enjoy doing it and the discussion and surprise makes it worth it. I would love to try a small X coil on the Zed. I have heard it is very sensitive to small gold. What’s your opinion of it?
    1 point
  33. Actually Ron it doesn't even go to the lower part of the body. The way the Stick is designed it goes down, then back and then around in back and the force of the weight actually gets dissipated by pushing your belt out and away from your back. If you were going to notice it anywhere it would be your belt in front tightens up because it is being pulled from behind. Sort of what would happen if you grabbed your kid by the back of his belt and pulled. I can't take credit for this re-direction idea as opposed to direct transference of weight like the Hip Stick. It was first thought of by Minelab in their Pro-Swing, but the Pro Swing has some issues with adjustment and being tied to the harness, and the support strut on the Pro-Swing does not float, more times than not it ends up pulling on your shoulder because people are unsure of how to adjust it properly. Doc
    1 point
  34. This is largely an illusion caused by the lack of coil options. Yes, there is likely some pieces a 7000 will miss the 6000 won't and also vice versa but the number isn't near what it appears to be, I think. The 7000 has a well-known depth advantage as the gold gets bigger though. Sounds like a spot to hit with a VLF if it can handle the soil, as a VLF truly does pick up smaller bits the 6000 and 7000 can't see at all. There is no one detector that excels at it all, largely due to design choices by the manufacturer to sell more detectors. And Dig4gold has a point there, now more than ever I'm flipping rocks to get results, it pays off.
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  35. That’s a valid point. Nearly all of the targets would have been easily recovered using the 6. The point is, this area was detected well with the 6000 on previous trips with no targets being heard. The 7000 picked up 3 signals in close proximity to each other and were recovered from good depth. This resulted in rocks being moved and gravel shifted in order to cover the ground well. What you saw in the clip was a result of that activity. If we didn’t take the Zed with us on this trip, the gold would still be in the ground. I’m not putting down the 6000, (it is actually our go to machine) I was just pointing out what happened and how the 7000 really does sniff stuff out that the 6 can’t hear. The two machines are a fantastic combination. The small patch area was detected really well with the Zed until I was satisfied that there was nothing else to be found. The problem I did face was the machine was trying to tell me something but no matter what I did, it could not give me enough information and lock onto a target. As this was a flood gold deposit, I assume that there will still be some small pieces present and possibly some pan size specs. With Easter coming up, and family visiting, the plan is to head back with my daughter and grandson to have one more play at the patch. This time the 6000 and a pan will be used. It is amazing how the 6 can absolutely scream on a small piece and yet the 7000 won’t even hear it. Im hoping they can have some fun and share in the thrill of holding some pieces of gold. I’ll report back if the 6 does find anything.
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  36. I agree, JCR you’re really putting the head on the pin. Nokta should be out with a firmware update this spring. I have the LG24 on the Legend recovery was at 3. In the test garden I have a clean area for ground balancing which is 42. In goldfield keeping the sensitivity at 16 and recovery set at 6, I was able get a good clean threshold tone change on all 7” and 8” targets with no TID number for any target. With the LG24 at 5” (and probably even 6”) TID for all targets. The photo is of the test garden’s granitic clay soil for comparison to your red dirt. Target sequence penny, nickel, dime, quarter & 30 caliber lead with depth 4”, 5”, 7” & 8”. The claim’s mineralized soil ground balances in the 50’s, the basalt hot rock TID is 1 rolling into 60, targets depth is not controlled and varies so often produces a TID but all are suppressed by the mineralized soil very similar to your video. Shallow small gold targets are going to be in that TID 1 to 3 range. I have access to another site with plenty of exposed bedrock. You may be spot on with recovery 6. Thanks
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  37. Here is a video someone made of a Pioneer 30 in action. When figuring out what a trommel can actually run I usually cut the company estimates for production by 40 - 50 percent. Otherwise you are usually going to over feed it and you will get lost gold and also jam ups which are no fun. Rock bars and shovels required.
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  38. Cold and wet but we could smell the gold in the air.
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  39. My understanding of Recovery speed/Reactivity is that it is actually a Ground Filter. It functions by adjusting the detectors response to how quickly it reacts to changes in the receiver's field. Mild ground's signal response changes slowly, so you can use less filtering. Highly mineralized ground changes more rapidly & requires more filtering for stable operation. How this same Recovery/Reaction control also effects actual target separation may or may not be be incidental or intended. Someone like @Geotechwould have to explain it for me. What I do know is that in my experimenting with the Legend and my other detectors that have this control, it makes a noticeable difference in having it set to match the Ground. More so than trying to separate closely spaced targets. The deeper the target and/or the worse the ground, the more important. The difference on the Legend is not as pronounced as on say the Rutus Versa. Each detector seems to have it's own sweet spot on sweep speed vs Recovery setting. At some point you can out swing a low Recovery setting. On the flip side, you can shorten audio response or limit detection depth with a fast Recovery setting to the point of over running good targets & never hearing them. You really just have to spend time experimenting with all this if you want to understand the detector at these kind of levels. For the Legend, in that days test bed conditions, Recovery 6 seemed to give the best response. 4 was not quite as good, nor was 8. 5&7 were pretty close to the same as 6. On my similar field sites I usually just go with Recovery 6 for non busy areas and listen closely for targets & changes in the ground signal by using NO Disc at all. Higher than Recovery 7 really cuts the audio response for me and kills depth sharply. As far as Ground balancing, my understanding is that a SMF detector typically uses a low frequency out of the simultaneous group to balance to & monitor the Ground response. Since a good effective GB is made on a target free spot, any subsequent change, whether from changing ground minerals or an actual target will give an audio indication. I think that what I was trying to demonstrate in the above video is an example of this. The small targets are being masked by the larger Ground signal to the point of being identified by the Legend as a ground response of TID1. In order to notice this, a good accurate GB needs to be maintained. My suggestion to @Nokta Detectors of adding a Hot Rock control would mitigate this effect by adjusting the detectors internal phase scaling. Sounds like your making good progress on you mining camp site. I have a few Hot Rocks but nothing like you are dealing with.
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  40. Not quite sure what you are asking, but here are some info (in some cases with numbers) that may help. 1) According to the scientific work that the article was based upon, they're referring to something that happened *very* early in the earth's history. To put this in relative terms, compare the earth's age with a human who lives 90 years. Right now the earth is middle aged -- equivalently about 45 years old. This meteorite bombardment occurred when the earth was (equiv.) 0.2 years (a few months) old. Needless to say the place was a lot different then! (The work referred to was done with 3.8 billion year old rocks from Greenland -- some of the oldest rocks on earth. The human equivalent age of the earth for those -- 7 years old.) 2) The mass of those meteorites is estimated at 2x10^19 (think 2 followed by 19 zeros) tons or 2x10^22 kg. The mass of today's earth is 6x10^24 kg, so this meteorite bombardment is about 1 part in 300 of the earth's current mass. (BTW, you can think of mass as weight -- true at the earth's surface anyway.) 3) Meteorite compositions have a ballpark (there's a range but this number is good for getting our heads around it) mass ration for Fe to Au of 1 million (1x10^6). For the average earth's surface (crust) composition is about four times that high, so meteorites on average are a bit more concentrated in gold than other rocks/dirt/etc, but not ridiculously so. People have speculated regarding mining meteorites. IMO those stories tend to be exaggerated. But here is a decent article on the subject. Basically, though, they're still talking about ppm of precious metals, it's just that some asteroids are (relative to earth's mines) large and you can pick the ones that are primarily metals. I.e. you don't need to clear overburden and get rid of all the worthless silicon, oxygen etc. -- the early solar system already did that for you. The earth was formed from the solar nebula. So were the sun, the other planets, natural satellites (aka 'moons') the asteroids, and comets. The nascent sun had enough mass to collect the dominant elements: hydrogen in particular, plus helium) while the planets' lower masses let those go and mostly kept the heavy stuff. So no magic here, at least no more than has been known for quite a while. Precious metals are rare and even when concentrated (e.g. nuggets) that's still the case.
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  41. I have no interest in this item. Posting for anyone who might wish to pursue what appears to be an unused or nearly so, GPX 5000 at Goodwill in AZ. current bid is $401.00 as of 3/27. Large photos posted. Let us know if you get a deal. Listed as a Minelab Commander. https://shopgoodwill.com/item/194917884
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  42. I went with a friend who is quite knowledgeable on mushrooms. He did pick some chicken of the woods. I'm just not confident enough yet on identifying it to eat them yet.
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  43. The evidence is in....Your permission system sure does work ! You have become one of the locals. Everything found has a story to tell , even the pulltabs ........
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  44. I was asking Alexnov what he found, but very cool stuff man 🙂 I translated his post.
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  45. Morels, corrals and bolet mushrooms. Blackberries, elderberrys and Huckleberry's. Have a harder time with the "Gold berry's" here is pic showing the contrast between hucks and the Gold variety.
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  46. Gerry's crew (I had a lesson from Lunk before I took Gerry's course) taught me more about machines than any other course. It gets you confident in your equipment which is essential. Gerry's training area is Rye Patch so you learn some about the ground and how to read it there. Ray Mills gives you tour with his course. There is a certain amount of assumption that you know how to use your detector well enough to find gold. There are turn it on and go detectors that will find it if it is there but you need to be able to read the land. Chris Ralph's readings are good at showing you how to read the land. While I've not taken a formal course of Kevin Hoagland he has taught me a lot about the 5000 and how to read ground. I'm short on time this morning and I'd tell you something good about all of them. More later ... Now, what do you do after training? That is another topic but more than ever you have to use what you have been taught and get lucky. Both of those take TIME. Time now should be spent with someone who has a pointy finger who needs a hunting partner. I think most of us would go more if we had a hunting partner. I did when I had a good one. We pushed each other and shared with each other. Don't let politics or personal issues get in between you and your hunting partner. You will have idle time where you share and that could let strong feelings bubble to the surface. Detectorists like us can be a hardheaded lot. Gold can do strange things to us as well. Be careful out there.
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  47. I also dug them all the time as long as its solid and not broad... As I learnt from this forum that these kind of signals were out of discriminations range but still within the detection limit
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  48. All good, yep first generation 17x12" Spiral coil. That's a popular size for patch hunting.
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  49. Hi there, has anyone tried the 16” mono? I was looking to buy one if its worth it for added depth
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  50. First, I can’t use single frequency here where I detect whether it’s on the 900, 800, Legend or Deus 2. That just makes the target ID instability much worse. I have to have accurate target IDs and tones or the detector is worthless to me. Absolutely impossible to dig it all where I detect most often for coins and jewerly. Setting upper tone breaks where you suggest will not change the fact that clad dimes and copper pennies are reading from 68 to 98 on the 900 depending on what direction the coil approaches them and if they are 3” or deeper. Equinox 800 on those same targets at that depth- clad dimes are a consistent 24 to 26 and copper pennies are 26 to 30 at worse using Park 1 Multi no matter where I set tone breaks or recovery speed. I don’t want the Equinox 900 to detect the same as an 800. I want it to be BETTER than the 800 when it comes to actual detecting.
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