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  1. Hmmm, may have to do what I’ve done in past, and just randomly hook up headphone leads until you get sound. Carl, Geotech on this forum, might know.
  2. 24K and GMX Sport are same electronics in different housings, share the same coils. MX7 and MX Sport are same electronics in different housings, share the same coils. I do not expect Garrett to make any MX Sport or GMX based models, they were short lived models that will soon be forgotten. Sorry if that offends any fans, but it’s just the hard truth of the situation.
  3. People imagine Asians assembling things in garages with hammers and tongs, making cheap low quality products. The truth is Malaysia etc is a high tech hotbed, where top quality things like computer processors are made in top of the line facilities. Apple iPhones another example. Obviously offshoring of manufacturing was done to lower labor costs, and evade various regulations on manufacturing. However, the breakdown of the global “just in time” supply chain, coupled with deteriorating global politics, means that companies are rethinking supply chains, and reshoring efforts are underway. People hoping this means lots of jobs will be disappointed, as AI and factory automation is largely cutting workers out of the loop, but this ironically means high labor costs are less an impediment to bringing some manufacturing back closer to the consumers being served.
  4. Almost all nugget detecting takes place in arid regions, and adding weight and cost where there is no need is counterproductive to sales. The old AT series needs to be retired for a better designed waterproof system, and the heavy White’s Sport system would be a step backwards in the regard, not forward. Think more like waterproof Apex.
  5. ATX is two pounds heavier than SDC! If you are not actually going underwater, no real reason not to use the TDI. Even if dropped in the water, it will probably survive if snatched up quickly and dried off. The TDI is a newer machine than the Infinium, and the better performer of the two. Garrett really needs that lightweight ATX I have been making noise about forever. The ATX is a fine machine, but needs a lighter housing, and standard coils without a rod attached. It’s crazy every ATX coil you buy, you have to buy an entire telescoping fiberglass rod assembly, doubling the cost of the coil. It also makes packing a spare coil in a rusk sack a real pain, and makes coil swaps the most difficult of all detectors I’ve used. Such a shame such a great circuit is hobbled by such a heavy housing and nutty coil system. Maybe the “new Garrett” we are seeing now, will finally revisit this long overdue situation.
  6. coil fault https://www.prospectingaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?id=37186 board fault https://www.prospectingaustralia.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?id=37305
  7. You tell me. I don’t know. In theory energy goes forever, it just gets weaker. If that’s the case everything and anything anywhere can be blamed on man-made EMI, and I simply don’t buy it. If it was an issue for any other detector, maybe, but no, it’s not. Seems like more than just EMI at work here to me, but I can also just be wrong. I’m speculating.
  8. The simple fact is most nugget hunting is in arid locations, and there is little need for waterproofing if it adds extra cost, weight, or complexity. I’m all for waterproofing, but only if it is basically transparent as far as those other issues. Equinox gives up little to be waterproof, though how waterproof it really is may be a debateable issue. But certainly enough for prospecting. I can attest that the 24K can stand a day in the rain with no extra protection whatsoever - it’s quite rain resistant as is, and that’s all most prospectors need..
  9. I just started a a thread on the same subject, need to combine the two. Will figure it out…… OK, leaving this thread, copy of my post here: This is a copy of a post I made in the GPX rod thread: I wonder if there is more going on there than EMI, as it is genuinely a non-issue for me most of the time. Have you tried another coil? I don’t mean the 14” for EMI canceling, but maybe the 17” or another 11”. If you know somebody who will let you try their 11” give it a go, in case there is a coil issue. I have my doubts it is EMI at all, as even in remotest Alaska the machine will act up, requiring one, and in rare cases, a couple hits of the cancel button to settle down. If it’s EMI then in those cases it would have to be picking up aurora borealis or something natural, because no way it’s man made EMI. Maybe something in Geo-Sense going astray? Don’t know, may be subject for another thread, as I want this one to stay focused on the rod issue. JP has mentioned he thinks the speaker has something to do with it, like a feedback loop where the machine is picking up its own speaker, then amplifying that back via the audio? I do actually wonder if a Geo-Sense programming bug is at fault, as it did occur with mine in remotest Alaska, where it is impossible it was man made EMI. A natural source, like aurora activity/ Perhaps, but feels more like something inherent in the machine. It also seems to vary by machine. Mine, it’s basically a none issue for me except in rare instance, easily tamed with the cancel button. But I consider the machine to be inherently noisy, like the SDC warble, and so discount what others might consider to me major. I’m also used to running machines very hot and noisy regardless, so maybe I’m not mentally attuned to this as much as others might be. But I also suspect there are machines that are simply doing this more than others, or more likely, areas where it really is EMI, like Arizona, where that seems more common than northern Nevada. Don’t know, but it is going on, and here is a thread, like the rod thread, to express your thoughts. No doubt the feedback will find its way to Minelab, so please express in depth and with some thought. Thanks.
  10. I wonder if there is more going on there than EMI, as it is genuinely a non-issue for me most of the time. Have you tried another coil? I don’t mean the 14” for EMI canceling, but maybe the 17” or another 11”. If you know somebody who will let you try their 11” give it a go, in case there is a coil issue. I have my doubts it is EMI at all, as even in remotest Alaska the machine will act up, requiring one, and in rare cases, a couple hits of the cancel button to settle down. If it’s EMI then in those cases it would have to be picking up aurora borealis or something natural, because no way it’s man made EMI. Maybe something in Geo-Sense going astray? Don’t know, may be subject for another thread, as I want this one to stay focused on the rod issue. New EMI thread here
  11. I moved freaks post here from another thread to start this line of discussion with a thread of its own. The rod can twist. I’ve experienced myself, and no amount of tightening will stop it if you put enough leverage on the locks. I don’t think you can break the rod per se from twisting the mechanism too hard, but obviously you could strip the nut off the threads. Still, I’ve given it as much twist as it seemed it could take, and have still managed to twist the rod. It takes pressure of some sort on the outer edge of the coil to twist the rod, and a larger coil provides more leverage between edge and rod. But I have had it happen with the 11” coil also when I get aggressive. When it happens, I’ve taken maybe one second with my foot to straighten it, and moved on. Some people will not experience it at all, others who are more aggressive with their coils probably will. I tend to let my coils ride on the ground with the rod fully extended, and bump into things a lot. This happens most often when I poke the coil aggressively into and between sagebrush. In my opinion, it at worst is a minor annoyance, not something a non-owner needs to elevate into months worth of posts. But I would love for other owners of the detector to weigh in with their view on the subject, yay or nay, to get a better fix on what actual owners think of the situation. I’m sure Minelab is interested also, so look at this as an owner feedback thread on the subject. I’ve considered drilling in a button lock, but it’s never annoyed me enough yet to go to the effort. I’ve been meaning to disassemble a twist lock, to see if roughening the surface or otherwise modifying the surface might help, but again, has never quite risen to that level of bother. I’ve considered whether Minelab might have gone with a square tube and lever system, and that might have been preferable for many. But I’ve also found for side hilling I like running the coil twisted out of true at times, and a square tube would prevent that. The simple solution of course would have been to include button locks. The entire rod assembly is easily removed from the 6000, and this would seem to make an aftermarket rod an easy option. However, the sliding armrest mechanism slides along a grip that is pressed (glued?) onto the upper shaft, making this a more difficult option than it might appear at first glance. Really going afield with possibilities, I wonder if tacky products, like this Golf Tac Grip Enhancer or Firm Grip might help. It seems part of the issue is the rod surface being so smooth with nothing to grab hold of. Separate thread on EMI issues here.
  12. Give it a rest Rick. Off topic for starters with the rod thing. But beyond that, there is a line between criticism, and simply being a troll. You have crossed it. You have made it clear since day one you have no interest in owning a 6000, yet have missed no opportunity to criticize a detector you don’t own. It’s the only thing you’ve posted about all summer. It’s a poor look, especially as most owners actually like the machine. So let users speak for themselves, and quit with the trolling. I’d give the same speech to anyone hanging out on threads about a detector they don’t own, and relentlessly attacking it. It’s the definition of trolling, and won’t be tolerated from anyone. However, I totally agree with you about Minelab allowing others to build 6000 coils. It’s been reported that Coiltek will be doing just that. Let’s keep this thread on topic, which is x coil, not 6000 rods. I’ve started a separate thread about the 6K rod issue for owners, who actually know what they are talking about, to weigh in on the subject.
  13. The Whites GMX was the waterproof version of the 24K. It had an even greater need of wireless built in due to the poor placement of the headphone outlet and required dongle for alternate phones. Most people were not running it fully submerged, so wireless would have been very welcome in that machine. The 24K less so, as I ran it without headphones the entire time I was using it in Alaska. Plenty of speaker volume for quiet locations.
  14. I agree - but like I said, context matters. You have context. You finding a round rock means more because of that. phrunt finding one means nothing at all. It’s not a agree or disagree thing, it’s looking at the situation and evaluating it properly with all available information. Given that round rocks are very common in nature, it takes more than just being found to seal the deal.
  15. Yeah, track offset is not new. My V3i had it and there are others. Frankly I’d rather have an outright manual adjustment, but this does the same thing. Auto to get you 99% there, then offset up or down to do what a person would do with manual. I often bump 1 notch positive as I find many detectors ground grab to neutral, and I like to run slightly positive. Like my old Gold Bug Pro. I would ground grab, then bump up once with manual. I owned the very first Gold Bug 2 sold in Alaska, and owned and used that detector longer than any other model I’ve ever used. I still consider it with the 6” coil to be a superb small nugget machine. However, pushes frequency so high at 71 kHz that it suffers on large gold at depth in bad ground, and time has proven the 45 - 50 kHz range to be a better balance of performance on all gold sizes under a wider range of conditions. That’s why Minelab went 45 kHz on the Monster instead up trying to set a new frequency record. But the Bug 2 is a tiny gold killer, no doubt about it. The problem from a dealer/retail perspective is it is a very old, fully manual machine. The number one problem I had with selling Gold Bug 2 units as a dealer was people simply would not take the time to learn how to run them properly. It’s not hard, really, but it seems it is for lots of people. Ground balance and false signals tripped them up every time. Having a ground grab or tracking option is a near necessity now, and Minelab believes this so much their new machines all have full time tracking engaged whether you like it or not. I think that’s fine, but I still like the ability to lock as at least an option. So I agree, the 24K will easily outsell the Gold Bug 2 at most dealerships. The machine is poised to have the best coil selection possible in very short order, and for me that’s a huge thing for gold detecting. And realistically, the $679 price in the U.S. equipped with rechargeable battery system is a great price for anyone. The only machine in the ballpark really is the NM Gold Kruzer, a good detector, but one that model never seems to have taken off. It had some coil knock also in early units, though I’ve not kept up on how they are with newer coil.
  16. No need and Googling can lead you astray to fake dealers - use the dealer locator I posted that lists all official Garrett dealers. Anyone else - buyer beware. The best way to not get scammed these days is stick with listed authorized dealers. If you do find a great deal via Google, I highly recommend you confirm the source is truly an authorized dealer. The link below has dealer listings for all major brands. List Of Legitimate Metal Detector Dealers
  17. I’m assuming this is not you testing the coil Simon, just you passing info on - correct?
  18. Ok, I’m going to step in directly here and ask that there is no discussion of adapters, and the issues that can be caused by cutting and modifying things. A Minelab coil needs to be cut open, and the security chip extracted, an inline adapter made, and the coil patched. Then the adapter can be used with both the original Minelab coil, and any x coils. If this sounds a bit tricky - it is. If done wrong severe damage to the detector may result. I’m pretty sure we all get that now, and it simply runs these threads off the rails when it comes up. Warning, warning, Will Robinson, doing this stuff may cause issues! Could blow up your GPX with no warranty coverage, and lots of out of pocket to repair. Or may simply result in erratic and unpredictable performance issues of a more subtle sort. Coils might work great in some ground, and not in other ground. Buyer beware. OK, with that out of the way, let’s focus on what these coils can do in a more positive fashion. I like hearing about even if I’m unlikely to ever go the adapter route myself. I know others are interested also, and the whole point of the forum is information people want. Consider this post the official disclaimer for the thread in that regard. I’ll delete anything further as regards all that if it comes up in this thread. Thanks.
  19. The sad thing about JW entering the forum multiple times under assumed identities, is that I’d expect him to merely deny he is JW if asked directly. Which leaves me no more enlightened than I was before Norvic started this thread. If you really are not JW, I’d expect you to be offended by all this questioning of who you are. I know I would be. Not sure what I’d do in response. Stomp off? Maybe, but not likely. Knowing me I’d prove who I am. If you care enough about any of this to want to go another step, contact forum member phrunt (Simon) for a chat. Surely two of the few nugget hunters in New Zealand would have something to chat about now that the quarantine is off. Or not. Whatever. If you really are Greg, and not JW, you have my sincere apologies. In my defense I’d have to lay my confusion, and skepticism, directly at JWs feet. Edit 9/19: well, Greg/JW went silent, leaving the mystery unsolved. Personally, I believe this is JW posing as somebody else. I find this all very odd, and don’t know what to make of it, other than to once again try to leave it in the past… and move on. For my part, I regret hasty actions taken in the past, and bear no ill will towards anyone, for things in which my own behavior played a part. But this continuing behavior by JW is separate from that, and stands on it’s own as odd and troubling. Regardless, I wish him and his well, and intend on moving on, with no hard feelings. Life is far too short for such silly games, and I for one won’t waste any more time on this.
  20. Aha! Go here to find all the official dealers - just enter your zip code: https://garrett.com/sport/where-to-buy Forum members Rob Allison and Gerry McMullen are both Garrett dealers, as may be others, who I invite to chime in.
  21. Is this a trick question? Buy one from a dealer? Buy one used with remaining warranty? Be a tester and get one "free" by putting in lots of hours? Get one as a gift?
  22. Round rocks are a dime a dozen. Usually evidence of shaping includes chipping, or a round rock that has been grooved to tie to a handle, etc. Context matters. Is it is a know native camp area? Is the rock type totally out of place, unknown in the location where found? You need some extra info to jump from “round rock” to “tool”.
  23. I’d agree with half and disagree with half. Especially saying an Equinox 800 can’t handle nugget detecting in mineralized ground… dead wrong. That’s just old school thinking that has not kept up with reality. I have noticed that as some detectorists age, there is a tendency at some point to just stick with some tried and true model, and discount newer machines as not really offering all that much. In fact I remember one forum that died, because most of the members started claiming digital could never be as good as their old analogs. People like me left at that point. I’ll admit though I am as much into the tech as I am into prospecting, so playing with the latest machines is gratifying for me in and of itself. Anyone that thinks we are not ahead of where we were 20 years ago….. I think we are. GPZ was a true advance, just one recent example. I’d also say if a person is borderline physically restricted, a GPX 6000 will help a person using a heavier, more cumbersome machine get more hours in the day. Finally, I personally know a new machine does actually improve my mental state for quite a while. I get bored with old machines, and a new one puts a spring in my step, makes me want to rehunt all the old locations I gave up on with the other machines. A new detector can change your mental state for the better. But again, that’s just a personal thing, not a right or wrong thing. I like playing with new toys, others prefer the comfort of the known. I do agree with the “different” thing, in that Minelab specifically designs their new machines to go after gold their earlier models missed. Filling in the gaps, so to speak. That can work backwards also - putting any machine on ground that has never seen a particular tech can pay off. If ground has only been hunted with a PI, a VLF has a good shot at revealing stuff missed by a PI. The truth is no one machine gets it all - it takes multiple machines and multiple coils to really work a patch out. So I’d take it a step farther. Different can actually be better, simply because it IS different. Overall though he is right, the operator is the real key, and a good operator will be successful with dozens of detectors. I can grab anything halfway capable and go find gold, and I think that’s the real message here. That, and do enjoy the day… don’t ever let lack of gold ruin a good time!
  24. Good to see, but it boggles my mind how much more expensive imports end up being in Oz. Here the machine is a real bargain price at US$679 discounted (MSRP $799) but in Oz it ends up at AU$1359? Yikes! https://www.bundyoutdoors.com.au/garrett-goldmaster-24k
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