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  1. For long hours with with the 17” coil I’ll just bungee to my rucksack strap, same as I did with GPZ and others. I like the adjustable quick release bungee, with Velcro snap hook on shaft, as supplied with the GPZ 7000. Can be had separately via Minelab part number 3011-0246
  2. There are two different Whink formulations, one based on oxalic acid (the safer), and one based on 1% HF (the more aggressive). Oxalic based will only attack rust stains, hydrofluoric based will attack silica minerals. The HF will take care of some issues the oxalic will not, but has a much higher chance of “frosting” the appearance of silica minerals with more than short exposures. Beware the safety issues - please refer to this thread for details!
  3. Minelab has a particular genius for producing detectors that occupy distinct niches. Even if they could make just one detector that did everything the best, it would make little sense from a business perspective. They always make sure each model has its own secret sauce that justifies somebody wanting it. As of late, controlling what coils get produced seems critical to maintaining that product differentiation. Despite Equinox, the CTX 3030 still sells because it does some things well an Equinox does not. Similarly, it was never their desire to produce a detector that sells for less than the GPZ 7000 that would replace it. Sheppo nailed it - the models complement each other. One does not replace the other, by full planning and intent on Minelabs part. That should really surprise nobody. Lots of things make more sense as regards Minelab if you take off your prospector hat, and put your business person/investor hat on instead.
  4. It’s never been disputed (by those that know) that the GPZ 7000 outperforms the 6000 on larger, deeper gold, and running the Super D coils vs 11” mono just reinforces that. It would have been nice to see result with 17” mono also, but that does not change the base performance difference. The GPX 6000 will also clearly hit specimen gold of surprising size that a GPZ might miss. It can cut both ways, and so like all detecting, it just depends on the situation as to which option is “best.” Great finds, Rob, keep piling that gold up, and thanks for posting.
  5. Nevada is a big place, my settings vary by location, not by state. I tend to bounce between manual 10 or Auto+ depending on location and conditions (ground wet or dry). That may be hotter than I’d recommend people newer to detecting should run however. I’m used to running “noisy” whereas most people benefit from the stability gained by less aggressive settings. I can say there is not a lot of range in the 6000 sensitivity control, and running even at manual 1 still retains a surprising amount of punch.
  6. Why promote fraud? I’ll scrub the links later today, as I see no reason to boost their Google results and send business their way. I don’t mind people posting about scams, but please don’t link to them and thereby help them. We have spammers for that. Edit - ok, think I got the 20 plus links scrubbed. Honestly, I’m surprised Mitchel. The minute you see LRL (long range locator) you should know that anything else said is not worth paying a minutes attention to. They advertise alongside legitimate stuff hoping the legitimacy will rub off. And Germans are no less subject to scams and fraud than anyone else. I’ve got no problem with people selling dowsing gear, as it’s honest about what it is. LRL is just dowsing dressed up with pseudo science and a price tag to match. It’s the deception employed about what these devices really are that crosses the line with me. If you want a dowsing device, just make one. Attach as many dials and meters as will make you happy. The knobs and dials don’t have to actually work, well, because they don’t actually do anything! Just be sure it looks really cool.
  7. 8 hours with headphones, noticeably less using external speaker. Have not timed it, but maybe lose an hour, depending on volume.
  8. Now that’s not “Reasons To Hold Onto Equinox 800 In Light Of Deus 2!!” But if you primarily are a water hunter, don’t blame you at all. The detector actually most likely impacted here will be Tarsacci, as we are talking more dollars to dollars comparison. An Equinox 600 will hunt the salt about as well as an 800, and at under $700 slays both the Deus 2 and Tarsacci in bang for the buck, even with a 3 year warranty versus Deus 2 at 5 (Tarsacci only 18 months).
  9. I agree Hugh, I never said they would get a majority of existing Equinox users back. My argument is simple - XP is responding to Equinox with Deus 2, including winning some existing owners, by specifically targeting weaknesses in the existing Equinox platform. That will win them back some existing Equinox owners, and I say that is by intent. The only thing to be seen is how many, but it sure won’t be zero.
  10. I have to disagree with that. Business is about market share, and Equinox took XP market share. Deus 2 is clearly a response to that, targeting Equinox ergo and water intrusion issues while bring multi to the table. Selling to the party faithful is nice, but competition is about competing with competitors! XP will probably bring some Equinox owners that abandoned the original Deus back into the fold. For the new buyer wanting “the best” there will be a perception that Deus 2 is just that, simply based on the higher price. People do think like that. And despite a few weirdos like me, it’s very obvious the vast majority consider wireless coils to be a good thing, as evidenced by XP pounding on that in their marketing. It’s their exclusive “edge.” The Deus 2, whether or not it matches or exceeds Equinox performance, exudes technological superiority. And I’m not betting against the performance aspect. This thread is about staying with Equinox (and I am!), but I think the Deus 2 is a brilliant competitive move, and Equinox sales are all but assured to take a hit, and some Equinox owners to jump ship.
  11. I apologize Tony. I feel like you also reacted more strongly than I think is warranted, as my intent was simply to get topic back on track and on topic. I apologize for coming off strong to you, it was not my intent, and more an unfortunate side effect of short written responses. I’d rather we chalk it up to miscommunication between people of good will, as I do value your opinions. I monitor a huge number of threads and posts, and sometimes respond too quickly without fully digesting things. I’m more than willing to admit I blow it now and then, and ask forgiveness.
  12. So use something other than a Garrett. Nobody is trying to sell you anything. This is the Garrett Forum however, not the Minelab or QED Forum, so let’s stick to Garrett here please. We are discussing where Garrett might go with the ATX, a newer and improved ATX. Not dwelling in why the old ATX does not serve. That’s kind of the point. One would hope it could not only be put in a better package, but close that gap with Minelab. If not for you, then for others. The world is a bigger place than Western Australia, and people use these machines for more than just nugget hunting. The beach and relic market here in the U.S. may actually be bigger these days for a properly built and priced GBPI.
  13. There is a lot more to detectors than frequency. Use what you like and that gets the job done for you. There are plenty of Garrett Ace owners out there doing just fine. Hours and good locations, that’s the ticket to success.
  14. I’d expect so, but I’ll take the bird in my hand over a promise for the future. And for my purposes, they will never make truly small coils, like a NEL Snake. Wireless is inherently limiting coil options, and prohibits third party coils, even more so than with Minelab, who regularly gets beaten up for that very thing.
  15. First, I applaud XP in what they are doing, and think Deus 2 is a great offering for people who tend to like the original Deus. As for me, well, I already own an Equinox. Let’s say it is proven that XP has managed to match Minelabs third generation multi performance in a single leap. So I’m supposed to buy another detector, for more money, to match what I already have? Could XP beat Equinox for performance in multi? Frankly, I think even Minelab will have a problem with that. I’m to old and jaded to bite on “more depth” claims. Which even XP is not making, in case anyone has not noticed. Where is the XP alternative to match the 6” round coil, the 6x10 coil, or the 12x15 coil? I think these coils alone give me performance options that XP can’t match. There is little chance of an 11” round coil punching as deep as a 12x15 coil. For the tiny bits, I’ll put my Equinox 6” up against anything XP has to offer. And I can own an Equinox 800 with three coils, for less than the cost of a Deus 2 with one coil. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I have zero need or desire for wireless coils that must be charged up to work. As far as weight and compactness, I have this: Custom carbon fiber telescoping rod for Equinox - 2 lbs 10 oz x 20” long Bottom line, I admit I was tempted. If I was an avid water hunter, I’d make the leap to Deus 2, no doubt about it. But I’m not. I’m primarily a gold prospector, and the Equinox is still the winner there for me, on the basis of coils, if nothing else. And if I was going back to the UK to hunt those huge fields again, this what I’d be swinging, not any XP new or old…. Equinox 12”x15” coil on steveg counterbalanced carbon fiber rod
  16. There is nothing wrong with ATX performance, but nobody says it slays Minelabs detectors. If Minelab were to release something even better, that undercut them…. that’s better yet. Let’s create some competition. I don’t care if it is Minelab, Garrett, or anyone else, I’d just like to see somebody make a decent, affordable GBPI detector that does not weigh a ton. I’d be thrilled if Minelab repackaged an older model. Just reintroduce the SD2200v2, add built in battery and speaker, and we have a good contender. The ATX is better than most Minelab users give it credit for; it can and will find gold in the right hands. It handles ground and hot rocks that trouble Minelabs latest and greatest, the GPX 7000 and GPX 6000, with ease. It exceeded the models prior to the GP Extreme for small gold performance. Boost the battery power to Minelab levels is about all it would need to narrow the gap on larger gold. But again, I’m not pushing the ATX per se. I just think Garrett can build a better ATX that better competes for the intended gold prospecting market. I’d like us not to live in a world where only Minelab makes these types of detectors, and dictates whatever price they choose.
  17. It's the same issue in the old mining pits and tailing piles here Simon, tons of deep nails, shell casings, bullets, and other stuff. Some days all you do is just dig junk all day long. But yeah, I hear what you are saying, and too much sensitivity to the smallest, and least valuable gold, could actually be an impediment in some locations. Where I'm at it's more an annoyance, and at least they are not near as deep as the nails!
  18. What can a person say. I'm finding lots of tiny pellets my GPZ 7000 never saw. But that tells me straight up the 6000 is hitting smaller gold better. I've been finding specimen gold in areas I hunted with the 7000, too many for it just to be missed. I think the 6000 is just that much better on very small gold, including gold in quartz. So I guess I'll dig the pellets.
  19. Just released November 2021, the new Deus II is the latest entry in the simultaneous multifrequency (SMF) category of metal detectors. The Deus II is a fully submersible VLF metal detector aimed primarily at coin, jewelry, relic detecting, and saltwater beach detecting, as well as gold prospecting. The Deus II is a multifrequency detector that can also run at numerous single frequencies, from 4 kHx all the way up to 45 kHz. "A new revolution! Today, XP is once more pushing the limits by creating, the first wireless, multi-frequency metal detector with unique features and performance. Once the coil, remote control, headphones and pinpointer are paired, they communicate with each other wirelessly and without latency using the XP patented radio protocol system. This means that the target signals generated by the search coil are quickly transmitted to the headphones without any delay, giving the DEUS II unparalleled speed and accuracy. The DEUS II performs extremely well in all terrain and conditions, both on land and at sea, thanks to FMF® (Fast Multi Frequency) technology." Source: XP website XP Deus II metal detector XP Deus II control panel Simultaneous Fast Multi-Frequency Multi-Frequencies 4, 7, 15, 21, 28, 35, 45 kHz 49 Single frequencies 4 – 45 kHz Waterproof to 66 feet / 20 meters Shockproof Fully wireless (coil to control box cable required for submersible use) Removeable Controller Detect on all terrains Mountains, Field, Desert, Beach, Underwater In-Depth Target ID Enhanced Iron Discrimination Capability Rich audio options Wireless Audio Lightweight 1.76 lbs / 800 grams Ergonomic Telescopic S-Stem Adjustable telescopic S-Stem/Shaft Optional: Bone conduction headphones Optional: Wireless headphones 5 Year warranty Official XP Deus II website See threads on XP Forum for latest news and discussion Forum Threads tagged "xp deus 2"
  20. With Deus II XP is once more pushing the limits by creating, the first wireless, multi-frequency metal detector with unique features and performance. Once the coil, remote control, headphones and pinpointer are paired, they communicate with each other wirelessly and without latency using the XP patented radio protocol system. This means that the target signals generated by the search coil are quickly transmitted to the headphones without any delay, giving the DEUS II unparalleled speed and accuracy. The DEUS II performs extremely well in all terrain and conditions, both on land and at sea, thanks to FMF® (Fast Multi-Frequency) technology. Choose the Fast and simultaneous Multi-Frequency programs or between 49 single frequencies from 4 to 45 kHz.
  21. Looks like XP delivered on my wish list except for the coil options. Looks like Equinox water hunters have a real reason to look hard at this one - 20 meters / 66 feet! No messing around there, with a huge margin of safety for the mask and snorkel crowd.
  22. I was not arguing with your point, said the same thing in my posts, though I’d disagree on no detectors but 24K etc. Still decided I don’t want one due to no small coil options. But I’m not here to rain on the parade, no trolling, so will leave it at that.
  23. Controller included here for $1599, unless they screwed the ad up, which is possible. The same machine goes for $1599 Euros overseas, considerably more. The description does not mention, but clear in multiple pictures. https://www.metaldetector.com/deus-ii-metal-detector-9-ws6
  24. The 12 factory programs + 12 user programs DEUS II has the advantage of offering a wide range of programs suitable for all ground and search conditions. GENERAL: FMF • Max. freq. 40khz • Conductive soil subtraction. GENERAL uses low and high frequencies and gives an excellent assessment of targets in the soil. It suits both beginners and experienced users. It offers an excellent target/false signal ratio in the ground, as it rejects the moisture in the soils, which can cause halos and false sounds when passing over holes, for example. You will therefore have more confidence on deep targets. This damp / wet soil subtraction thus attenuates the very low electric conductors like coke (coal, and conductive stone) and to a lesser extent certain very thin targets like aluminum foil. SENSITIVE: FMF • Max. freq. 40khz • Frequency addition. SENSITIVE uses low and high frequencies up to 40 kHz. Highly efficient on all targets, it will be very effective in mineralized and polluted ground when searching for the smallest targets. SENSI FT: FMF • Max. freq. 40khz • Frequency addition. SENSITIVE FULL TONES is based on the same platform as Prg. 2 - SENSITIVE, but it is configured with Full Tone audio mode, with Reactivity at 3 instead of 2.5. It offers a very rich and informative sound identification that requires a little more experience, as each target index generates a different tone in proportion to conductivity (see Discri > Full Tones). Very efficient in highly-polluted ferrous and mineralized ground. FAST: FMF • Max. freq. 40khz • Frequency addition. FAST is based on the same platform as Prg. 2 - SENSITIVE, but the audio is set to Pitch mode with Reactivity at 3 instead of 2.5 and uses the square audio feature. These three settings combined allow the machine to work fast in ferrous-polluted and mineralized ground. PARK: FMF • Max. freq. 24khz • Frequency addition. PARK is adjusted for searching recreational area’s such as, parks, dry sand beach, etc., sites that are normally polluted. DEEP HC: FMF • Max. freq. 14khz • Frequency addition. DEEP HIGH CONDUCTOR adds together very low and medium frequencies up to 14 kHz. Designed to better locate good conductivity targets, it is ideal for clusters of coins whilst maintaining excellent sensitivity to isolated coins using its 14 kHz frequency. DEUS MONO: MONOFREQUENCY adjustable from 4 to 45kHz. DEUS MONO works on a single frequency like 1, but combines the advantages of DEUS II, such as its expanded frequency range to 45 kHz, improved performance, audio quality, better EMI rejection, etc. There is more likelihood of connecting with an unstable frequency while using several simultaneous frequencies than with just one and the DEUS MONO could help you in these situations. GOLD FIELD: FMF • Max. freq. 40khz • Frequency addition. GOLD FIELD is intended for highly-mineralized gold-bearing ground. Gold nuggets are often seen as the ground or ferrous items in these tricky environments. It is set to “all metal” for deeper detection and only rejects the localised ground to which you should regularly adjust by Grabbing (see Ground). It will accept ground above and below your Ground setting. RELIC: FMF • Max. freq. 24khz • Frequency subtraction. RELIC is processed in the same way as Prg. 8 - GOLD FIELD, but uses lower subtracted frequencies to search for large masses. It is configured for “all metal” with low Reactivity and only rejects the localised ground to which you should regularly adjust by Grabbing (see Ground). It will then accept ground above and below this ground setting. DIVING: FMF • Max. freq. 14khz • Conductive soil subtraction. DIVING is the first and most stable of three programs intended for submerging in saltwater environments or simply on wet sand. Its very low and medium subtracted frequencies will better locate valuable targets such as rings and coins, whilst naturally being less responsive to low conductive targets like aluminum foil compared to the more sensitive Beach 11 and 12 programs. It can thus save time and be more effective in difficult diving conditions. BEACH: FMF • Max. freq. 24khz • Conductive soil subtraction. BEACH uses higher frequencies up to 24 kHz and thus is more sensitive to small targets compared to Diving. It is well suited to wet zones. BEACH SENS: FMF • Max. freq. 40khz • Conductive soil subtraction. BEACH SENS incorporates frequencies up to 40 kHz offering excellent sensitivity to the smallest targets without losing performance on bigger targets. This is the deepest beach program for wet conditions but also the most reactive. Source: https://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/en/produit/xp-deus-ii-remote-control.php
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