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That is an outstanding relic. Thanks for sharing.

Chris, thanks for the simplified explanation of the cited quote. Upon examination your explanation makes sense to me. I appreciate it.

Steve, I totally understand your position on detector selection. My new coil is working fantastic, thank you. A few nights ago I went to an old bunk house/camp to do some relic hunting with my Brother-in-law. He was swinging a CTX with the 6'" coil. This location had been pounded with a Minelab 70, CTX, Makro Red Racer, and Deus 9". I found around a dozen non-ferrous targets in machine gun iron running in 28KHZ. The CTX was able to eke out 1 non-ferrous target. We compared most of my targets and to put it mildly there was no comparison at this location in this dirt( Deus FE meter maxed). I myself own a CTX and love it. But I believe in using the correct tool for the job so for a iron laden location this little coil will be on the business end of my Deus. BTW my Brother-in-law has ordered a Deus with Elliptical and 9" coil. LOL. Seeing is believing after all.

Aw man! I just got my second HF coil this evening. This one is charging unlike the first one. Now you post this. Actually, I watched this video a couple days ago. It is interesting but with the disparate size coils it does not say too much to me other than the T2 is a great machine and you can"t get that small of a coil for the Deus. Now if he would have used a Gold Racer with a 4x7 it would have been an interesting comparison for relic hunting for me as I own a GR and am usually to lazy for all this testing .

Hi Steve, I have to say I never have shared your opinion of how durable the Deus is. I have never babied mine. I think it's one of the best built detectors I have owned. After waiting forever it seems, I recently received an elliptical Deus coil. Just my luck the blasted thing won't accept a charge! Tried loading version 4 multiple times. Tried two different charging clips, one brand new, both of which work on my 9". Moe at Detector Electronics is treating me great by sending another coil right away, but I had to forward it to one of those Quincy pirates as I am heading that way. I hate to venture what may happen to my precious coil at the hands of that scoundrel. I did run the elliptical for about 1/2 hour. I think I am really going to like version 4 and the elliptical. I look forward to exploring the new capabilities further when I finally get my hands on my new coil. I ran the XY screen on the HOT program in a bed of iron and was initially impressed for a short test. Iron that wraps, seemingly is easily identified with the XY screen where as before with version 3.2, many times I would use a program switch to 4khz to identify these confusing targets. Although the technique/screen is different with the XY screen the end result is easier iron ID reminiscent of the CTX target trace.

Klunker, thanks for your answer. We need men like you in Congress. Steve, All I can say is WOW! That was some reply. Thanks for all the time you spend helping us. I am just looking to eke out some extra ground handling capability in sites that a PI fears to tread due to massive amounts of trash. If they are that close in performance I will just keep my Gold Racer.

All other attributes aside, which detector handles hot ground better? In example which detector loses less depth in Laterite soils? Which detector handles hot rocks better while still retaining depth?

Let me be the first to congratulate you on finding the peace dollar. This find will go down in your personal record book I'm sure. I enjoyed the pictures and the story.

Steve, Thanks for posting the glossary. It looks like it will be very helpful. I am not sure but I think I may need to apologize to readers of this thread. I have been very busy at work lately, between going to sea and also dealing with a serious industrial accident that occurred at my work place the other day. I have been quickly reading the replies to this thread when I have a few spare moments. Things have now slowed down and I was reviewing the thread when I realized that readers may think I wrote the post that I attributed to the GPEX forum. I did not write it and no where did I say I wrote it. If I committed a mistake by not attributing it originally I apologize. It was just a copy I had filed in my computer for reference. Steve, if I have committed a forum sin please eliminate this thread. Merton

Surely you jest?

Hello Jim, I took your advice and bought the Petersen Field Guide. Learning mineralogy is challenging but I will keep stumbling along and learn it eventually(I hope). The terminology has changed so much over the years that it makes a difficult subject much harder to decipher when dealing with historical accounts. Merton

Hardpack, I am just as confused as you. That's why I asked for help ;-)

I am very interested in pocket hunting. There is not a lot of info on the net about this subject but what there is I think I have studied most of it. Where I feel deficient in my pocket hunting education is old petrology terminology. It seems like over the last 100 years there have been many changes in the names of rocks and minerals. Following is an excerpt from the Canadian GPEX gold forum which may help to illustrate the problems which beset the modern prospector when he tries to decipher what the old-timers were saying. "The chemical or mineral composition of this pocket formation is generally silica, lime, soda, alumina, potash, copper, lead, magnesia, iron, gold, quartz and water, although these conditions differ in each locality. (Here I note a problem in terminology. The author uses 19th century mineral terms that I have difficulty translating. Calcite was not used in those days, but the term for it he used was lime, so I substituted calcite in places for today's readers. Soda and potash may have referred to sodium and potassium feldspars, but I'm guessing here. Magnesia may have been magnesite, MgCO. I don't know what the contemporary equivalent for alumina is. He interchanged terms for elements with those for minerals, so the particular minerals containing lead, sulfur and copper may have been understood by his contemporaries, but I don't know what he meant. Chloride puzzles me. Chloride had a meaning among mining men in those days that is no longer used and leaves me mystified)" Hopefully someone with experience in this area will school us prospectors that lack the ability or knowledge to translate the old terminology into a more modern one. I don't believe I am the only prospector who thirsts for this knowledge or could benefit from publication of it. Thanks, Merton

I don't have a high frequency coil nor have I updated to ver. 4 as I am away at work for some time so I can not speak from experience. Does not XP recommend a reactivity of 3 in hot ground such as you were in? Were you able to do actual testing on in ground targets using different reactivity? Thank you for any insights you may provide.

Did Buddy catch any critters at Rye Patch? Likely a couple chewed up prairie dogs under the recliner in your toy hauler.

Great find. Which version?

Steve, have you posted any reviews of version 4 ? Disregard, I see the other thread.

I was hoping for the lowest freq to be 18 rather than 14 due to 18's proven advantage in target separation. While I am excited about the new coils' abilities in the gold fields I was even more excited about my favorite relic machine getting a small elliptical coil to enhance it's excellent separation abilities. I say screw waiting around and reading reports on this coil. I plan on being an early adopter. LOL

Glad it worked out for you Norm. The CTX is a great detector.

Klunker, the other evening I was out lounging under the awning of my RV watching an Arizona sunset. Between sips of a chilled, fruit based cocktail I thought of my old friend far and away to the North. As I languidly stirred my beverage with a little umbrella I realized that your travails are of your own manufacture and therefore unworthy of intruding on my enjoyment of this idyllic locale. With that subject settled I went back to thinking only of myself.....

You got me this time but only because I was sick. LOL We shall see who kicks who's next time.

Dave, what is the story on the new CTX 3030 coil?

I am still looking for my first gold coin. Wonderful stories, thanks for sharing.

I wonder when heart shaped boot plates went out of common usage? Could help to date other finds.

Sometimes the researching of your finds history is almost as interesting as the find itself. A good rainy day activity.