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  1. Video of the Apex on Monte's Nail Board Test.This is Monte's official Nail Board Test he sent me Years ago.I think for the large size of the stock coil and DD its quite Good!!Test done with factory tone break.Zero Disc.Multi Freq and some other solo freq's at one point for a comparison. Keith
  2. Yes but could tell a chage! The main thing about the Tarsacci is it punches mineral. The other stuff like the sheet of foil and iron unmasking etc is sort of a by product of this technology it so seems. Its fun to see what it can do messing around with it testing stuff..That can be a hobby in itself if your not carefull.LOL!! In the low end things happen like more purity of metal than actual conductance.Like small lead pistol balls will read the same deep or on surface.The salinity seems to really have control of items that can hit close to its dial range. Nails are another item you can get to be a little weird to help in unmasking.You cant remove them just like you cant remove that sheet foil with salinity but you can make them sort of less reactive in a way.But its all by products of being able to punch bad soil i feel. Keith
  3. Yeah concentric on a VLF might be your best bet for that test.BUT its still not going to do what the Tarsacci can do.. There's alot of great Detectors on the market for sure.. BUT the Tarsacci doing things that till now were just not doable.Things have really moved forward. Good test! Keith
  4. Your Quite Welcome Sir! Yes to find a detector that can do that would be a chore.Not saying there's something out there that cant with a ID system on it.But I don't know what it is. The Tarsacci is really advanced in alot of ways than what we have become used too. Mineral handling and or punch is it. and the other is lite metals.they can be skinned back. Keith
  5. 👍 I might also add if the ground balance is too low the salinity does not seem to help till you set it to 650 or higher.I actually run it up some if its grabbing lower than 650 and I want to take advantage of the Salinity. It's rare in my area as most of my soil is 800s even 950 at times. But I know in good dirt like 580s and loamy fluffy if I want it to unmask in iron better I set ground to about 800 and Salinity to about 44.ish.and it really gets going unmasking. Keith
  6. At first i had pinging..The salinity will cure most and the pinging that's left will start to be dead flat quick sounding and the legitimate real high tones will be sonar echo hits. I promise they become nothing as you adapt. The salinity is a life saver and sometimes it takes about upper 20s to calm it down.-2 threshold seems to be the spot with 7 sens to really get adapted to it .still punches like crazy and the tones are easier to hear ping from sonar. So far Salinity has not caused me to miss even P.Caps and pistol balls at depth.The salinity can actually help pull a signal out of bad soil and rocks when on Vs being off. The salinity will also make aluminum weird sounding and crown caps. If you have some of that gravel at home turn salinity balance on and sweep over it and find the spot where it drops out or acts weak.then use that setting ..It will amaze you at what it will see then around those rocks. Pinging is the hardest part to overcome till you get it right and learn the language to know what to ignore that breaks through.Not hard but just takes time .Sweep speed helps alot too as does -30 disc. I at first thought man what's up.then it clicked.I'm a slow learner and it took about 45 hours or so to settle in.then you really start to see it do some things you never though possible with a discriminating unit. I see you see its doing something as I did too at first few uses,But once its all clicked and jelled look out. Way more advanced technology in mineral than I myself can even begin to comprehend. that's a nice looking Crucifix piece!! Keith
  7. Quarter under a sheet of aluminum foil. Tarsacci has the foil I.D .number Notched out which is about 6-7 ID.. Note the Safari is for demonstrative purposes only. Keith
  8. Yes Steve ive decided the transmission method of the machine whatever it may be is not as important as the Salinity balance.whatever that really is? and how it works. That is the true DNA of the unit.and yes your detailed report on salinity balance once you use it you will see it causes P.I. timing type effects.very reminescent traits will be noticed. Your very astute in your deciphering.!!! Keith
  9. Lots of good info. I've tried to understand the technology and the best answer I get is what if there's another way to designs a detector..Not VLF not P.I. but another way?But this way offers Pulse mineral punch ability and VLF disc ability. And I'm no electronics expert by any means.yet and I don't know .Can you pulse a transmit signal and receive continuous?HYBRID?Seems feasible. Read the patent closely.I'm a novice on reading technical jargon.BUT things stick out. Also and I mean this with all sincerity as the interview comes along in release stages I myself ask Dimitar stuff that may answer questions in a round about way. ? The Tarsacci can handle mineral well and punch it Clean.BUT I feel the salt balance is also part of this.its another dimension in handling soil that's not simply ground phase taken care of everything that at times becomes overkill ..It seems to clean up signals that phase shifting causes to be muffled or even muted. Keith
  10. Yes Steve..I dont want anyone to think its a walk in the park on my account.I too struggled with it and still have learning to do.Its a unorthodox unit.Its quirky.The worse the soil a person has the better results he may have with it.But you dont turn it on and get blown away on inland sites.It takes time to see what its doing and how to tune it find it out.Study what you see is happening and notice things its doing other units are not doing or struggling to do on in soil targets.If a user starts to pay attention to this he will see its strongest point. What i mainly wanted to do is how should I say is LET CAT OUT OF THE BAG .The strongest point to the machine is mineral punch.Its in alot of ways like getting a P.I. machine to run in the soil like with timings etc on maybe a GPX type unit.keep it stabilized learn audio traits. The Tarsacci is collecting alot of soil DATA that's for sure.Its seeing everything mineral, rocks,Even seems ground temp changes from sunny sites to shady sites.Its using a filter to silence these things very sparingly.In my mind and only my mind (no inside info) its doing this to punch tricky soil.See it all then try to decipher it in processor.So what this does it create a machine that can get mineral ping at times even slight blow back at times from soil.Sort of a all metal discing feel.But its pretty intelligent in what it does.It just creates quirky hits.Not dead pan hits but some weird feedback.And the salt balance seems to be there to help Filter some of that quirky ping hits. This is where adapting your brain to a ping hit to a sonar echo type hit comes into play.My biggest problem was and still at times is chasing pings.Foot deep small and or bent nails.I'm used to a say VLF chirp/ping being a deep goody barely making it through.On the Tarsacci pings are rejected targets.The sonar echo sound is the legitimate hits.(Gotta have headphones on).The biggest problem a user will face inland is deciphering these reports.its not the bigger nails and up iron its the small inch long or bent stuff.the machine wants to not let those pass by if its not getting a solid read..It will lean more to trying to let them through than assign them as iron.This is it so seems not to miss iffy deep goodies.Ive also learned that deep goodies say penny sized and up dont really ping or sonar echo they become a fuzzier high tone . As far as hunting my favorite sites .thick iron.If I had started out in a site like that with the Tarsacci i would of gave up.Learn it in light iron areas first off the edge of habitation sites etc.The iron hunting for me is where i like to be.more chances in habitation areas to make more finds than random scattered through out say the woods fields .And the Tarsacci exhibits something unique in that scenario. I'm not going to say its a Deus in iron its not.But it does do one thing well and that's punch bad soil.And I've always had it in my mind if I could combat bad soils and iron mixed there's more and its not deep.Maybe just lurking 2 inches.As we know that big coil is not the best for iron site work but its pretty dang good for its size on recovery speed from one target to another.Yet its not a blending type unit so it relies on gated audio.Much like T2s CZs etc.So what I see in iron is those targets are or should of been got but the combination of bad dirt and iron leech halos shut some targets down.I'm sure they were not severely masked in terms of abundance of nails etc on top of the targets and a good machine should of already got them.its the machines ability to handle or see through the halo fusion of iron soil and iron oxides meshed.Now this is all in my head but I know what i seem to be seeing.And its a thought process I have had for along time wanting a unit to be built that would combat it somewhat.That's my biggest enemy bad dirt lots of iron.. I know the beach hunters want a large coil.I want a small coil!!!I want to fully see what this unit will do in bad iron bad dirt mix..It may not be what it was designed for?? but it has something going on in iron.It needs to be explored further. Once I knew the sound of a legitimate target to a false the unit has became very conveying in iron.Its actually less noisy than most machines in iron its just the compressed audio traits are the learning curve.A user who dissects iron with vlfs will find the Tarsacci is well behaved comparatively speaking but you have to figure the audio out. I see what the unit is doing now we have to apply it.Learn it.Dont think old school think new school.It can feel alien but its doing something.First few hours I ran it actually first whole battery charge I was so disconnected from the soil I was almost depressed about it.but let it sink in.I like to have a connection to the soil and the Tarsacci to me was Chinese talk with a poor translator..Now its starting to feel more English to me.Well maybe Brooklyn accent English..I need it to get to Southern accent English LOL..I'm joking but I'm excitedly waiting for it to become second nature to me ,become my friend. I will also add I was at a disadvantage for the first few days.I was using a Bad coil.Yet wasnt sure it was bad.BUT after I got the coil fixed and sorted out the noise I was enduring dropped dramatically.BUT the first coil had taught me somewhat how to figure out hits.once I got a PROPER coil the intelligence level went up.And the language took off.So I had a handicap to start with but it actually helped me..A user coming to the Tarsacci will not see what I saw.And actually it is not that hard to digest the audio when its running right.Sort of like a FBS unit we had to learn the language.Its different BUT IT WORK'S! Keith
  11. Yes both triggers do the same thing.its for left or right handers.instead of having to mount the trigger in the pole in the center like on tejon they opted for under the control box and I'm sure its a engineering thing. There may be a concentric in the works but have no solid info. as far as the BlisstooI have no idea? Keith
  12. Hi Kac! I like the X very very well! But I like about all the DeepTechs.in my soil they are nice and deep. The new design to my ears has enhanced audio traits over the other already great audio traits DeepTechs.The added second disc is nice to have if needed.Yuo push trigger forward fro second disc and pull for all metal center is first disc. What I like the moat about it is its what i wanted a Tejon to be for years but never happened. I'm an old school hunter and grew up on analog and the X just feels like an old friend to me.But has some modern twist. They may not be for everyone and especially the newer generation of hunters .To them it may seem antiquated or lacking.But if you like to hunt and dig targets without meters and even be able to hunt in more modern trash areas where the old Vistas cant then its a win win. I actually feel the X has a cleaner disc of targets Vs the Tejon.But unmask as well as the Tejon and that's hard to do .I've always considered the Tejon to be the best single tone analog unmasker made. One thing for certain is the big iron that trips up the Tejon to make you dig it will not happen as often on the X.you know big iron very easily on the X. The build quality is very good and is weather proof but not water proof. To me its a straight up analog with some modern twist .and it just flat out makes finds.And can hunt iron very very good and go very deep.and can also be used in parks etc the same as any other full disc non-metered machine you've ever used with same type outcome. It has ability to control the Receive signal through threshold control.Very NICE! The Audio is everything on the unit .very rich and nuanced with subtleties. Makes you decide instead of the machine deciding.YOU feel more at one with the soil with the unit instead of feeling like I do alot of times with some machines that your disconnected from the soil by a artificial barrier. Is it the greatest machine ever made? NO but it is a machine I ENJOY and I can make it feel right to ME.And I like the as one with the soil alot of machines dont offer as much as we move on in technology. Keith
  13. Here's a video i did of the X Steve Sorry its so long but tried to get in the attributes in under a hour LOL. 50 gain and threshold 40 all potentiometers go zero to 50..disc point is where it just drops out AIRTEST DEPTH Nickle 14.5" Indian Head 13" Z Penny 13" Copper Penny 12.5" Clad Dime 12.25" Silver Dime 12.25" Silver Quarter 14" Half Dollar 15.25" Silver Dollar 16.5" .58 Cal. 3 Ringer 13.5 C.S.A. Rectangle 23" U.S. Oval 25" Breast Plate 23"DISC POINTS WHERE JUST GONE Nickle 34 Indian Head 38.5 Z Penny 39 Copper Penny 43 Clad Dime 44.5 Silver Dime 45 Silver Quarter 46 Half Dollar 48 Silver Dollar 50 still solid Coke Can flat 45 Square tab 34 The X has very good Disc actually a sweet disc its gone when its gone on the dial just today I set my second disc on 38.5 to low/high tone a .58 caliber three ringer and hunted in a trashy area and picked some deep 3 ringers out by checking on second disc and if the tone was flip flopping I almost KNEW it was a bullet!! You can set the 2nd disc to break up (flip flop from low to high tone) on a target which I like for exactness or silence the target or accept etc.. If you dont want to hear a low tone for disc'ed items just turn the iron volume to zero.then its a single tone with full disc on either first or second disc. You can use both disc to create a notch window if you like to your exact requirements say nickles.Set first disc right below nickle and second disc right above or on edge of breaking then you have a user defined notch to check a target with . You push trigger forward to use second disc and pull for a all metal no tone accept all mode like a pinpoint.theres 2 triggers for either right or left hand operation. Machine is on 12 Volts with Drop in battery holder like say a Infinium with quarter turn door. The Gain control is the receive gain.A amplifier for the returned signal and can be tweaked for hot ground or more benign ground The Threshold is the depth/target size control and decides how weak a signal you can hear the lower you set it the more signal it takes to break though the higher you set it up to a point of say 45 the less signal it takes to over come it.even in deep woods EMI free areas you will overdrive it into instability as a sizzling chatter..Im running it right on edge of sizzle for best depth and even smallest of targets. The I've dug no big iron with the X since running it now about 25 hours.Even in my big iron sites.I hear it but know its iron by the way the tones sound even n just nail reject.of 20.And picked brass out of the sites of all shapes and sizes. Crown caps also sound ratty. The knobs are very tight and you can set them and wont bump them out of tuning..One thing to show the exactness of the disc is I can cancel a flattened beer can and still hit a Quarter Clean Keith
  14. Hi George!!! I've found on the T2 series if you sweep faster on suspicious targets it cleans up the signal quite well..even in Mineral...almost like the T2 series has 3 filter instead of 2... I think that's why I mesh so well with the T2 series...I like to swing faster than I should and I try to calm myself down but I got used to it years ago HAVING to for depth on the early machines.. The T2 does do well on mineral...at least the + is and It may be doing better than the earlier T2's.. My 10 inch 4 bar dime is coming in nicely especially on three tone.. Yep Three tone on the T2+ is becoming my favorite mode if the dirt is above 3 bars.. and 3 tone is quite deadly in iron for unmasking Im finding on HEAVY Heavy Iron.. Watch video I've posted showing three tone on iron if you get a chance.Sort of long and rambling at times I notice after watching it myself LOL..But I hate to see people NOT notice just how good of a platform the T2 is even after a decade...T2 was a game changer and its still very much right there with the best...Great inland unit the + is..And how should I say it feels about RIGHT..Like it took a decade to get everything ironed out..Clean ,Deep,Precise.in the best Ergo package you can find and non battery hog and slew of coils to tailor it to a site. Keith
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