Swampstomper Al

Isn't this what the Eureka Gold was supposed to be / do..? Based on your prior usage of the machine, mentioning you wouldn't mind having another again (if you could pick one up at the right price) and knowledge / relationship of/with Minelab, do you feel they could (should?) mfg an improved chip set to bring this machine up to its full potential, or are you more of the belief that potential isn't there to begin with due to compromises or whatever..? I ask because I purchased one years ago on the same premice and feel let down by the low frequency especially.. Beyond that though, it's a great machine.. Swamp

Kate's people said: ...We are looking for men and women of all ages with gold fever who have the knowledge and survival skills to go out alone, prospecting in the few locations left that have been untouched by big mining... Talk about over-reach..? Even Bear Grylls wouldn't accept this challenge..! Will never get off the drawing board.. Have no idea how it even got on same (welll, yes, I do know..) Might be doable in more realistic while remote locations, but even then going it alone is still durn near suicidal.. No thank you as proposed.. Swamp

Good.. I'd much rather be talking about the deceiding factor for my purchasing an Infinium LS for beach use was based on a comparison article you wrote about ten years ago anyhow.. Two feet + no problem..! Swamp

You're right, Fred -- it isn't my toy.. And in my initial post I said taking your Zed to the beach if you want to is a valid reason.. So let's take a look at the original post in this thread for a moment if y'all don't mind: Ozgold asked for opinion about bringing his 7K to the shore under a specific condition.. All I've done is given my opinion based on that set of circumstances.. On the way his query is structured, it is virtually impossible to achieve any degree of success without bringing Mo Hammond B3 to the mountain ( read: bringing your detector into "the wet.." ) I've merely pointed out a possible reality of doing so.. Ozgold's entire purpose for bringing a detector to those locations it for detecting where sand no longer is, sand that has been removed by salt water action.. He isn't going to be detecting in sand recently untouched by the ocean.. If you want to get on my case about something, Fred, at least try to keep it relevant to the conversation supposedly taking place.. It remains my opinion that taking a GPZ 7000 to the beach in order to detect near and/or possibly in the salt water as well is not an especially smart move.. That is what this thread is about, correct..? Swamp

You're correct.. It is a cautionary tale.. But more as well, considering thread title.. Freshly scrubbed beach: Unless the immediate area is the site of a known treasure ship wreck (or old on-shore gathering point for caching / divvying riches / spoils), any 'treasures' will be modern day (and if not a past or present gathering point for sun bathers, probably not even that..) Without the lure of possible historical treasure being present, there really is no reason, to me at least, for the presence of expensive not-totally-waterproof not-balanced for salt deep-seeking detectors.. Even if that treasure ship / gathering point possibility exists, the need for deep-seeking equipment only marginally improves recovery odds under described conditions, since, unlike inland gold, where nuggets at even moderate depth are stationary for all intent and purpose, the bulk of post-erosive shore finds will be discovered at the toe or in the face of sand 'cliffs', in one of the three gathering zones parallel to the shore line and shallow in run-out cuts.. There is no doubt I have nowhere near the shore time invested in multiple worldwide locations as you do, Steve; I can speak only from what I've observed along FL's Atlantic coast.. However, based on these observations I find absolutely no valid reasons for bringing a 7K as currently mfg'd to a salt water coast.. It simply isn't necessary.. All I can forsee is detector problems up the road.. All risk; no reward.. Swamp

I'm not sure if I should put this in the form of a question or a statement.. OK -- Question it is: Is there a reason I don't understand or know about that after removing alll the top rock prevents you from sliding into a diving mask to see under water so you can finish the job you started by grabbing a crevasing tool in order to clean out all those now exposed lovely trapping cracks..? Just wondering is all, since I have the feeling the majority of gold in that spot is still down there waiting for you to go back n get it.. Swamp

Weatherproof.. What, exactly, does this word mean..? Personally, based upon first-hand experience, I will never again go beach hunting with a metal detector other than one that's fully waterproof, fully submersible and designed at least in part software-wise and fully design-wise for salt water / salt water beach usage.. While salt air, salt water and left behind residues from evaporated salt water are rough enough by themselves on exposed (and sometimes not-so-exposed) detector pieces-parts, it's beach sand that's the true enabler, especially when it comes to internal detector damages.. There's a huge difference between desert sand vs beach sand.. For the most part desert sand is rounded and smooth.. Blow and it'll roll away.. Beach sand tends to be very jagged.. When those granules lodge somewhere good luck getting them out.. Three years on and I'm not even close, all from one minor "oopsie" in high-and-dry dry sand.. If you want to take your US$10,000 detector down to the beach just to see how it works there, that's entirely up to you.. All I can say is I'd need a really good reason to take a deep-seeking non-beach-ready detector to the shore, and I actually have a really good reason, yet still wouldn't do so.. They don't call it the Treasure Coast for nothin', ya know..? Swamp

Thought you might find these interesting and/or helpful for what you're planning: How they're geared when prospecting for gold and gems around Australia two to four months at a time.. Wal nLiz Gold -- It's not worth dying for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkiWnBSjvU8 Video about outback preparedness.. Liz Kreate -- Our Camping Set-up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=489zvZRUJbc Swamp

'k, thanks -- and yes, that's he.. There's a guy down my way I run into occasionally who just bought that really large one with the pointy digging edge.. I only ever see him working the low tide in the water surf line, which = the high tide waste-deep line-up zone.. I should be able to monitor how well the Chezh scoop holds up, and this guy's rough on scoops.. Swamp EDIT: Just noticed I haven't added my location / interests info.. 'Down my way' in this particular case is Cocoa Beach / Cape Canaveral, FL

Is that one made by the guy in the Chezh Republic (I think is where he's located..?) His / their welds have gotten better, and larger too, over time.. He's also added reinforcement in places on some of the scoops.. They're definitely a better buy now than they were early on.. Swamp