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  1. I'm still learning plenty with this machine....in fact, I'm a relative newcomer to the Manticore. I am however, drawing on many years of detecting with other machines. It might be a problem throwing too much Sensitivity, Recovery and advanced audio processing at the machine until you have a good understanding of what's going on with the electronics. I like to run a "subdued" detector until I know what's going on. If you know there are seriously deep targets that you want to get down to then it is understandable to want to put the foot down on the accelerator but if you go too fast then you might not be able to read the (road) signs. My beach is far more forgiving.....very little Iron targets, no black sands, minimal EMI. Detecting inland is the opposite....heavy trash, difficult soils, problems with EMI. The Manticore is very impressive....I got a long way to go to really know what's going on.
  2. My source in the USA has been personally told by Garrett USA that the Sea Hunter MK2 is being discontinued ! New beach / shallow water PI detectors are no longer ๐Ÿ˜ž Steve might have to update that list of his again. Sad times. *** I don't include the Aquascan AQ1B or JW Fisher Pulse 8X as beach or shallow water detectors due to their minimum starting pulse delays of ~40uS ***
  3. Finally managed to do the beach tests with the Manticore (M15) and GP3500 (14" DD). Manticore: Hit the buried ring at 17"-18" (no peripheral falsing with Sensitivity at 22 / Recovery at 4). Beach Deep and Beach LC were very similar in performance. GP3500: 16"-17" Depth result: Draw (Essentially) No point in using the GP3500 on white sand beaches when the Manticore just pips it for depth and can handle submersion and salt/sand spray. 22 Sensitivity was the Goldilocks settings....great depth and no falsing in damp beach sand (not saturated). Sensitivity of 23 just started to create falsing.....the target hits louder but this doesn't translate to deeper because the falsing offsets any gains. Stopping the sensitivity whenever falsing begins is what it's all about.....you're after soft deep signals and sure as heck you wont be digging all those false signals if you're running the machine too hot.
  4. My recovery speed is also dependent on "target density".....good targets and bad. Some of my grassed areas, I was using a recovery of 6.
  5. They really need to roll out more detectors very soon......easy to lose momentum after the initial rush and the chance another player enters the market. How many in the initial batch ??? Sounds like they could have sold a few hundred in the first week. It's clearly a solid product and maybe Algoforce should have backed themselves more by launching with a lot more initial units.
  6. Where I set the Sensitivity is very much dependent on soil conditions. I did some Sensitivity tests (not beach) with buried coins at around the 8" to 9" mark. I found the sweet spot by adjusting the Sensitivity between 15 and 25. I would test at 15 and then 25......test at 16 and 24 and so on (so the best reading will meet in the middle). I set my Sensitivity at the maximum depth that gave me a consistent target ID and a confident 2D trace. I settled on 20 for that location. A setting of 19 or 21 was also acceptable. 18 was very quiet but there was room for more performance.....22 was just starting to become "ratty". If in doubt, I will err on the lower side with the Sensitivity. Many of my non-beach locations have fairly shallow coins and there isn't much beyond 8".....so no point in cranking the Sensitivity to 22 or higher when even 18 will hit them well. Lower Sensitivity also helps "manage" the less than coin size targets....the small foil, broken tabs, etc are less likely to alert me as masquerading as a coin/ring (super handy for grassed areas). On the beach then the same applies but I am happy to run a little hotter....digging is easier and good targets are deeper.
  7. Invercargill??......I was there when I was backpacking in the mid 80's. I can remember hitchhiking that way and the old gent who picked me up asked if I was lost and if I actually wanted to go there ๐Ÿคช It was late July and the weather was something else I can tell you. I found a nice warm bar and an even nicer Kiwi girl ๐Ÿ˜
  8. I recently sold my old Garrett Sea Hunter XL500 pulse to a gentleman in San Diego.......he has many old Garrett detectors and is always getting whatever hard to find spare parts from Garrett USA. Anyhow, he was informed that Garrett are in the final production run of the Sea Hunter MK2 models and that model will soon be discontinued. Sounds like get them while you can......crazy new prices for them here in Australia/NZ. They are 50% more expensive than they were just a few years ago. I wish I had kept mine.......25 years of production I'm guessing. I can't vouch for the validity of this claim so happy to hear from anyone else who might be in the know. Tony
  9. Guys, collectively you are not helping me with my temptation to get the M8 coil...... and now I've KFC on my mind and I certainly don't need that. The Colonel is taunting me.....M8 coil or Popcorn Chicken.....tough choice. This joke might only apply to Aussie and Kiwi members. Not sure about you guys in the USA.
  10. Tony

    Mixed Feelings

    Sure am......I just needed to "thin the herd" as they say. I hate having stuff around (even good stuff) that doesn't get used much and probably never will. A collector of detectors I am not ๐Ÿคจ I don't even have a single pinpointer........ someone get Simon (Phrunt) a defibrillator. Happy hunting.
  11. I wonder if there will be future E1500 models. We all know Minelab rolled out all of those SD > GP > GPX models with incremental changes. Can't all of these changes be done with firmware updates which may incorporate timing choices, etc. If the ergonomic and fundamental design of the E1500 is solid then do we need physically new models. Maybe a firmware fee for users is possible. Would revenue dry up if they didn't sell future physical new models which could then hold back R&D for major firmware changes. It does present a difficult conundrum.
  12. USB-C to USB-C on the AlgeSauce ? Am I missing something here.....haven't had my morning coffee yet. What is the battery connection format into the detector ?
  13. Kind of a sad for me.......for the first time that I can recall, I no longer have; 1. Any White's detector 2. Any Garrett detector 3. Any pulse unit for hunting the water Time to change my Avatar. And just like that, all of my detectors are now Minelab units. I never intended for that to happen.
  14. I had that exact coil years ago......it had done a lot of work on hard ground and finally died. We gave it a good send off.....tied it to a tree branch and re calibrated it with 00 buck.
  15. I'll keep a watch to see if a USB-C model comes up......then I can use it with my AlgoForce....... I mean Manticore ๐Ÿคจ
  16. I can always help you out but the Micro-USB is not ideal really when compared to the much better mechanical connectivity of USB-C.
  17. It's officially discontinued but still available at a few places......somewhat expensive but reasonable. $50 Aussie. https://www.oztorches.com.au/nitecore-f4-power-bank-battery-charger.html No USB-C connectivity....maybe the next model? I think Micro-USB is the achilles heal especially as an outdoors unit ??
  18. Simon, Is this too wide for the AlgoForce........113mm x 86mm x 27mm https://www.liteshop.com.au/content/nitecore-f4-flexible-4-bay-charger-and-power-bank/
  19. Absolutely ๐Ÿ‘ I'm just being a propeller head !
  20. Just to summarise.......all Power Banks when delivering USB power (5V) will lose about 25% capacity straight away. "Efficiency Losses" will depend upon quality of manufacturer with the best losing only an additional few percentage in capacity. The worst performers can lose an additional 10% or more in capacity. Some manufacturers advertise these specifications and others don't. I think ultimately you get what you pay for and buying higher quality powerbanks is the way to go. They are definitely not created equal. Unfortunately, the Momex must have very significant efficiency losses based upon dropping from 20,000 mAh to 11600 mAh (the first 5000 mAh capacity loss is to be expected in this case).....but kudos to them for including the specs.
  21. I mainly threw out the information for the new-comer who might not be aware of true battery capacity. I can imagine them thinking that their detector draws "X" mAh and then relating that figure to their battery Capacity. An example would be the Algoforce drawing 700 mAh and then expecting a 10,000 mAh battery running the detector for over 14 hours......that same battery should run the detector for just over 8 hours...according to the spec sheets on battery and detector. It's a far cry from those SLA batteries we used to strap to ourselves back in the day !
  22. I've noticed there is quite a difference between Capacity v Rated Capacity of these style power-banks. Allowing for the 5V needed v the 3.7V Lithium rated capacity means a 10,000 mAh battery is nearer 6000 mAh in regards to capacity. Just something to bear in mind when thinking about real run time with the detector. Even then, 6000 mAh should be sufficient for a full days detecting. And lastly, further capacity is diminished by power losses. 1. As mentioned earlier, the power bank has native 3.7V, but actually needs to provide 5V. Therefore, the voltage is boosted through the converter circuit placed between the power bank and the charging device, resulting in an initial power loss. 2. Batteries for electronic devices are made of lithium, and they also operate at 3.7 V, which means that another power conversion has taken place, creating even greater losses. 3. USB cables also cause power loss due to their internal resistance. This cannot be ignored. Momex are good in that they state their Capacity is 10,000 mAh but the all important Rated Capacity is 5800 mAh. Their 20,000 mAh drops to 11,600 mAh........yikes. BTW...This would apply to any powerbank manufacturer.
  23. For those that have the AlgoForce, can some of Pioneer's concerns or observations be addressed or solved, etc? Thanks. Steve......if this thread morphs into some useful information then maybe a new topic might be in order? Maybe a "Troubleshooting Guide" or "FAQ" for the E1500.
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