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  1. One thing I noticed about some of the good older machines apart from the obvious power some of them had is when it comes to ground balancing you could GB the ground as best as possible but where not all magnetic soils can/could be wiped out completely where the machine still gives off a very slight noise or rise/drop in the threshold you could/can fine tune those signals out with the use of the DISC control so those faint rises etc all but vanish, Also machines like the TDI series you can adjust the GB to the point where is will filter out unwanted target as a crude form of discrimination, The bottom line is, It does not matter if it is a 40 year old VLF or a modern PI machine the GB system is most definitely a filter system, And on all VLF's and PI's there is a cross over point which is often referred to as the HOLE where some items just fall in to the same setting as the Ground balance setting and they totally Vanish out of sight from the detector, where as in dryer or wetter soil those targets can come back in to view for the detector, This is why you can hunt the same ground over and over and still keep finding stuff whether it be a new detector of an old one, Auto GB systems have good and bad points but locking them when you can is still the best way to go. If your ML machine is still compensating when the GB is Locked then that is not such a good thing, If it only monitors the ground then that's a good thing while it is locked, But not if it is making adjustments because the whole idea of locking it is to stop it adjusting, As I said before ML did the same thing with the Sovereign GT where you could turn the Iron Mask off but it kept running in the background which was the one thing that ruined that machine in Iron infested ground along with s few of their FBS machines which was behind the reason I changed brands, because in my soils the Iron mask takes away about 95% of the machines usefulness. J.
  2. Cool thanks for that, It's looking like a winner if those pictures are anything to go by, So good luck to White's, I hope they sell as many as they did with the GMT's.
  3. Don't the GMT Coils fit the 24K ?? Seems a bit odd because the 48khz coils from the GMT goldmaster fit the original 50khz Goldmasters and vice versa, So why don't they work ? from the looks of those pictures it looks like a keeper,
  4. Yeah that's right and how did whites react ?? They closed down the forum and lost all the info and posts and then opened some other weird site as a replacement which made hard to find anyone because our accounts were deleted, And their Sales web site got revamped and is a PIA to use compared to their old site, What ever happened to "If it ain't Broke then Don't Fix It" ??? Cutting off the public areas will only damage the brand,
  5. It's a bit like when old Yellow died, None of us know whats going on behind the scenes but I am sick of all their new machines being built on the chassis of the Treasure Mate, no matter if it is the treasure mate or the MX'sport and even the 24K, Same Shaft, Same Pod, There is not one machine that says Buy Me ??, nothing to get excited about, Just Same same same, The prices have gone up and up even though they have saved money cutting production costs by using the same chassis and other parts, There was a time when you could tell which whites machine a person was using from 50 feet away but the only thing that sets them apart is the colour of the shafts, They seem to think that a detector is all about the software and it's not that is just the internals of it, With their current designs If you look at one then you have seen them all, Even the coils from the black box design got morphed over to fit the new models, There are only 3 Whites machines I would buy and they are 1 or 2 more MXT's or/and The MXT AP and another GMT and the 808, Any of their machines that uses the MX sport style pod just fills me with dread and flash backs of 2 or 3 years ago Which nearly all of their new machines from the treasure pro/mate upwards, I just hate all the lies I got told about many products, and if I want anything made by whites I normally by it second hand from ebay because there is no way am I handing over every spare Dollar I had like I use too, I use to live and breath whites products But I now buy second hand Items if I need or want anything from whites. I am over It, fingers crossed that Nokta and Minelab keep the Dream Alive,
  6. They do listen and then they build what one of their Kid designers dream up, Like Stuffing an average detector in to the Childrens range of detectors and then try to tell professional users this is the machine we have been waiting for, The reason some of their older models have lasted nearly 20 years is because The Whites of Yesterday use to work with users and Prospectors alike and if it wasn't right they would fix it and this could go on for a year or two, But nower days they take our Ideas and twist them in to what they think we mean and wonder why we have little or no interest, Don't bother writing letters and stuff because your concerns will end up in the bin before you have clicked SEND. The best thing you can do is go with brands from the EU and AU who are still making inroads and not living on past glories.
  7. It was a horrible time for one and all, I tried to warn people and those that thought I was anti the new machine went ahead and bought it anyway and we all know how that went, The lack of response and the smarta** comments that owners got from certain quarters did not help and the total lack of willingness to listen to folks along with insisting on still sending new machines with the same problems where even the software numbers could not be relied upon did the most damage, But one field tester gave it above average reviews where people had to decipher his code by what was not said thinking that it was the machine for them. I really hate the fact that in the end I had to jump in Boot and All in order to get someone to listen and not just pay Lip Service, This was the real reason it all got out of hand, So much could of been avoided if someone had taken on board that some end users Actually know a thing or two about detectors. It's was a very sad time for all involved including White's because they are such a big part of detecting history and it was Whites who found me my First Gold and many extremely old coins, and I still feel to this day if it was not for Whites then I would never of made those finds.
  8. The MX Sport Saga was a dreadful time, because it was Me who first worked out what was going on/Wrong with it and all the other stuff that went on that I never posted, just about ruined detecting for me, And I resigned to the fact that I own the last truly great Detector Whites made, And after all that went on and how things were handled verbally etc that when I hear about a new machine from them is shortly followed with me saying a few cuss words to my self, The down side of it all is that I championed Whites and done my best to help others with their new Whites machines, But now I don't even bother reading many posts on forums under the Whites banner, I am Angry at whites because they destroyed all that I believed in and undone all the hard work I did, Resulting in me giving away my brand new GMT and selling my New unused TDI's, Without going in to details, my personal views about Whites detectors are normally said in private, I still love my MXT All Pro and I still believe that it is a heck of a Machine,
  9. Why all the Conspiracy theories, I have been a member here for years and just vanish for a few months or a year at a time, ?? My Self I have good reason to do so Having had open Heart Surgery late last year and the Death of my Mom this year, It's been a rough time and life takes over and steers you where it thinks you should be instead of where you want to be, I did not plan on either of these events but those are the Cards I was Dealt, So I gotta live with it, No one knows whats going on in this guys life, And it's wrong to think the worst about someone just because they haven't shown up in a while, This past year for me has proven to me that I am not Bulletproof and God Beats with a Big Stick, As for what or why, I am not going to comment about this guy for a simple reason, None of us know what is round the next corner and my troubles are a prime example of how powerless we humans really are. It's best to enjoy your life and those who you share your life with and worry about making the most of the good times we share with those who really matter, J.
  10. The good thing is On the News they just said Gold has just hit over $1500.00 per OZT,,
  11. I like the ATX because it is a repackaged Minesweeper which is fine with me but the weight is an issue, and over here the price has rocketed up, where it is cheaper to buy a GPX4500, They need to rethink this sudden price hike considering it is very old Tech now and If a person is serious about Gold then the GPX gets my vote, How hard can it be to put the ATX on a Diet ?
  12. Stu this is not an Australian Only issue, When there is Gold involved it is a world wide issue, Me I don't care about the stuff to the point of where I dedicate my life to it but it always makes me do the Happy Dance when I find it just the same, Another thing to note Is that I am about 500 miles from where you live, What you need to realize is Australia is a massive place where farms are measured in the 1000's of Square kilometres not Acres where you can drive for 6 days and never see a Town let alone another person, And when people go missing or have an accident or even Die out there The first people to get a knock from the Police is people like Madtuna, This can happen many times a year that he has to stop work and take police and emergency people to the last known locations of these idiots who go out there,, It's not a place for tourists or green horns to just buy a detector and get in to it, The temperatures might be up in the 40's + but out in the open where there is no Shade I have seen a thermometer go past 67*c out in the sun and that was in Ambient temps around 32/33*c Out in the Bush it gets a lot hotter than most people realize. Having worked out there a person can drink up to 20 litres of water and more per day. As a Native of Australia there is no way would I go out there without the help from people like MT and I would never abuse his trust, But seriously by allowing people on the property he is taking a biggest risk, I like the show from one perspective but you can't get an idea on what it is like out that way because of the stupid editing, because the whole program is made up of 20 second snippets with no real prospecting being shown and they keep on repeating scenes 4 and 5 times per show just to build the drama and fill up the 60 minute time slot Like all Discovery programs they are made up of 1 part bull 9 parts ****, The most interesting prospectors are Greg an Chris from a real world prospective because apart from owning a couple of Diggers Greg and Chris do it all the hard way just like everyone else here.
  13. Well that's just wrong to behave like that, I don't understand folks like that because I have never Once behaved like that, It's just not how I was bought up.
  14. Well that's just wrong, I can see why it winds you up, I have a heap of camo gear from my younger days including Vehicle Nets but I just don't use it anymore, It's ok for hunting and it's primary use but that is about it.
  15. Yeah Mate, well folks like that have no right to be there, Not only is it your place of work it is also your home, I often wonder how they would feel if we went wondering in to their back yard, It's just not on in my books, I never go on to any property unless I am invited and I follow the rules to the letter, Boils down to respect in the end.
  16. That's a little harsh, I think Chris and Greg are well versed when it comes to Bush survival seeing as they have been doing it for around 12 to 14 years maybe more, And as for their Camo gear That shouldn't be a problem either because No One should be Shooting on their mining lease anyway,
  17. I must admit I thought it odd when you moved away from the Gold, I am always impressed how some VLF's react to these modern coils.
  18. Yeah I understand where your coming from and it seems that having different names/labels as in ground tracking and multi IQ ground compensation can be a bit confusing, But you can bet they are similar and with just a few subtle changes like a faster or slower SAT speed or a lower level of gain multipliers etc although SAT is mainly a thing found on threshold based machines, I think you might find the answers in Andy's new book because he has a habit of delving in to the unknown with most of the machines he has written about, He's pretty switched on when it comes to this type of stuff. or maybe Chris or JP could explain just how this process works.
  19. As with many companies ML are not going to release info on what makes their products Tick, and as for being able to work in Salty locations each mode will has a GB range to suit the conditions as to what those ranges are and which mode they are only ML knows the Answers to that, I prefer a machine that has a separate Salt Mode or Salt Switch that can be switch on in any mode. What ML have created here with the NOX is a machine that be it Novice or Pro can just go to the store and Buy a machine that will get them up and running straight off the Bat and while that suits 99% of people there are some who like to mess with things, This is where pre set programs fall short but for the rest of the world are more than impressed with how they work, One of my pet hates was with the Sovereign GT where it had an Iron Mask switch but even with it switched off the Iron Mask was still running in the back ground which slowed the machine down by a huge margin and because of that the Sovereign GT fell short when it could have been so much more, So with all the above just how many manual over rides should ML fit in to these Machines, I know for a fact that Whites tried that with the V3 and the V3i and "most" people shied away from the V3's because most folks want to switch it on and get on with detecting, I for one am one of those people and not being the most patient of people that machine would have become a tree ornament on the first day. So ML has made a machine where detecting remains an enjoyable venture and I am still not convinced that we need to have even more access to how the machine works because get that wrong and it will effect something else within the program.
  20. It's a well known fact that tiny targets can get lost within the tracking with any machine, and regardless of who the expert reviewer is they nearly all tell you to ground balance and lock the Tracking/GB, On the size of the targets in the video having the GB on will only soften the signal response slightly but when it comes to targets the size of what "Phrunt" posted then there is a high risk of them being ground balanced out so tracking needs to be Locked, The reason behind locking the tracking/GB is because you have no way of knowing how big or how small the targets are because you can get weak signals on larger bits and strong signals on tiny bits and "VICE VERSA" So to avoid any loss of targets it is better work the area with the GB/Tracking locked and unless the ground keeps changing then you don't need to be in Tracking This is just Detecting 101 as with all machines. There is no magic happening here, even as far back as 2000+/- we have had detectors that although the tracking/GB is locked they will still monitor the ground conditions and will update them when the User allows the detector to do so, So the simple task of ground balancing is a lot quicker than it would be if the person had just turned up at the site. As with most modern machines the thing that makes them better is being able to fine tune them or by switching on the fine tuned factory programs. The single most impressive thing about this video and "All" three machines is the fact that they work in Hot Aussie soil. and it is what I have been saying for years having used VLF's in Australia and for all the surface shallow Gold that most folks use the SDC for A person can buy one of these machines and still have a good chance of finding Gold at a fraction of the cost, And again I thank EL NINO77 for posting the video. J.
  21. I am a firm believer in a good VLF and this video shows just how well they handle Hot Aussie Dirt, Trouble is in Australia is getting Guys to see that there is another world beyond PI machines, The XP is a shocker and works very well and the NOX is a fantastic piece of kit and as always the GM is a keeper for sure. Great Video and thanks for posting it, I enjoyed that, J.
  22. In my ground I have not seen any major changes between the 2 types of coils, The only thing I have seen is I tend to get more Iron and crown caps ID'd as good targets with a DD and the Etrac with it's DD was all over the place, giving up to 9 or 10 different sets of figures for crown caps, The Sovereign GT was really good when it came to IDing things and having the meter on it helped a bit on targets that were a bit iffy, The only down side to it was the very slow recovery speed. Most of my ground measures between 57 and 67 on the GND on the MXT and pulling coins from over a foot deep is quite common using the 950 coil and using the 12"/300mm Coil can be seriously Deep, being old Farm land that has seen every thing from modern man back to the Neolithic there is a lot of Iron junk down there so a Concentric and a fast recovery seems to work best even using the 12" Concentric it still sniffs out the keepers.
  23. Sorry Mark I can't because I sold both of my TDI's just before I went in to hospital due to the surgery and recovery etc I was told that I would not be detecting any more but as I found out that is not the case, which means buying more in the future, lol.
  24. Jim, Mine was built in 2013 as well, but none the less mine did not show any depth advantage with the GB switched Off, all I noticed was that smoothing effect that the TDI pro does with the GB off my SL did it when the GB was On which means it was trying to balance out the target. Well we have 3 for 3 that all show zero depth increase with the GB off, which is making me start to doubt the many posts I have read claiming that there is a depth increase with the GB Off, Yes there is with the TDI Pro but Not the SL.
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