auminesweeper

5 minutes ago, serioussam said:

Thanks for all the help 

Ya welcome,

Stick with it and you'll be cooking with gas in no time.

1 minute ago, serioussam said:

It only seemed to work good with gain down really low, I have been running in coin/jewelry 

Well in that case I would say you need a DD like the 6x10 or the 10" Round one, But don't forget the 6x8 and the 10x12 S.E.F coils because they seem to work better than most Coils in hot soils,

26 minutes ago, serioussam said:

I also have a new to me mxt 300, 

It has the 12" coil and seemed to get a lot of multiple targets,  I would dig and find pull tabs and a 1941 quarter dollar and sometimes nothing. I'm thinking the ground is heavily mineralized, would another coil help with the heavy mineralized ground 

Thanks for any help

You can still use the 12" coil in junk filled sites, The key to using that coil is to turn down the Gain to around 6 to 8 and give the Coil a chance to see whats in the Ground, Maxing out the Gain with big or Small coils is a bit like Driving in the Fog with your headlights on Highbeam, Dip the Power and trust the machine, The 12" coil is very powerful when used correctly Also never fret when you turn the Gain  down on the MXT's because the Gain control does not work like any other detector,

As you turn the Gain up on an MXT you will hear it click, I call it Changing Gears because every time it clicks it multiplies the Gain  IE On Low it is 1X and the Next click it is 2X and the Next Click it is 4X and the Next Click it is 8X and on the 5th click it is runing at 16X, These Click are Boosting the return signal So never be affraid to turn the MXT around 6 to 8+/-.

I know we all have our set/preferred ways of using Detectors but if you turn it down it stops the FOG and allows the Coil/MXT to see good Targets lying close to bad targets,

Hope that helps, Good Luck.

6 minutes ago, JCR said:

On the rechargeable battery tray for Whites, there is a post by @chiil in @Jeff McClendon's thread on the DFX that recently bumped back up for some using Li-ion 18650s. I am going to see about getting one so I don't have to worry about leaking alkalines.

If you do a search for the Whites TDI SL I did a 9 Cell Battery Tray Conversion to boost the Battery power over 12v, and If you get some NiMh 2800/3200s then that will give you a longer run time than the Whites Factory NiMh pack ever did, From memory I think the factory pack was around 2200/2500mah but don't hold me to that coz it's been a while since I posted it here, Ok.

Good Luck.

5 minutes ago, KD8GIS said:

  I love to see People finding the MXT... I have the Pro and for the most part in my area (WV) civil war area. Relic, 2 tone, disc low and sensitivity high as you can.  5X8 DD and a Detech 13 Ultimate coil. The detector will always be my "Go-to" Number one detector.  As you may have seen, Even a nice 10 year old MXT pro will go for a price which reflect it's abilities.  Enjoy!

I only noticed the price hike today because I just about gave up detecting and this thread coming back to life again, Now I have finished my little camper I might start going to a few rally's again.

The MXT I bought has never been outside I just used it for mapping Coils detection fields in the House so it is as new and boxed, I also got out all the Coils and found I also have a pair of Covers for it and a new pair of Whites ProStar Headphones, After not using or even seeing the MXT for this last 7 or 8 years and seeing it today still says all is right with the world, It's hard not to like something that you have a history with,

There's many a Good Story by Steve and Chris R here on the forum both of which had a real big hand in launching the first MXT E Series, And many members here have hit their first Gold with the MXT, Times change and things move on but despite it's 21 years ago since it's launch It is still as good as it ever was and still holds it's own, Much like the GPX on Gold or the Soverign Series on the Beach, We have been lucky to live and share the Good times with some of the most Iconic detectors in history,

3 minutes ago, glacialgold said:

@auminesweeper

Excellent advice, thank you! 

Do you know if there's a goood rechargable battery pack still available for the MXT? I've seen some available on ebay, etc., but wasn't sure if those are viable options. Alternatively, I can just run 8xAA rechargables in the magazine...but would prefer a single plug-in option.

Agreed on all points above. Only have the 10x6 coil for now, but my plan is to take the machine out over sites I've "worked out" with the Nox and Legend and see what it pulls out of the ground.

G'day, The Original MXT you could buy a NiCad Pack for then Whites replaced that with the NiMh Pack But you could try and find the Battery Pack for the TDI SL because that is the same as the NiMh pack,

BUT, I know they said the run time is around 35 to 40 Hours using ordinary batteries but the truth is the MXT will run for 57 to 65+++ hours on a set of Duracells OR you could just use ordinary NiMh AA'' and still get 20 to 35 Hours out of them, The MXT is voltage controlled so whether it is putting 12v or 9v the power output of the Detector remains the Same, So don't worry if you go out one day and the Voltage is reading 9.8v etc, I've seen mine go down to 8v+/-.

Hope that helps, Good luck and let us know how you get On,👍

2 hours ago, JCR said:

John,  If you still have the Links for MXT set up you sent Tom I sure would like to have them also.

I know this is an old thread but I'm really liking my new to me MXT.

Thanks,

Chris

G'day Chris the MXT's being a simple knobs and switches Machine is simple to set up,

Depending on the Ground as in how polluted it is with junk I keep it simple,

1) If there is a lot of junk I set the Ground to Track,

2) I Set the Gain to between 4 and 6 So when I Ground Balance it I lessen the Risk of Ground Balancing Out Metal or ground balancing to anything that could give me a false reading and pump the Coil 4 or 5 times and then Switch the Track Button to Lock, OR If you have the MXT Pro or All Pro then I leave the Ground Button set to Lock and just press the Grab Button and pump the Coil a few times and then release it,

3) For 99% of the time I use the Two Tone Relic Mode because it has a Slower S.A.T. Speed and it allows you to turn the Gain up Higher than any of the Other modes except the Prospecting mode and it Bleeps for Good and Grunts for Bad targets,

4) I set the Disc to close to 1.9 to around 2.3 MAX trying to keep the marker on the knob closer to the Number 2 as possible,

5) Then I turn the Gain up until it starts chattering and back it off a touch until you get to know the MXT so it smooths out the threshold, Once you get to know it then you can crank it up in to the noisey area of the Dial,

6) If the Ground is too Hot IE Minerals etc the MXT will make a sound like a Fog Horn and the Screen will say "Reduce Gain Lift Loop" so just lower your Gain a little until it no longer happens,

Using these setting will get you up and running then it is just a matter of fine tuning the Gain to how you prefer to hunt, After that then you can practice the All Metal/ Prospecting Mode and well as learning how to use the 3rd Tone in the Standard Relic Mode as listed above then you will really see some depth, The MXT was / Is an old War Horse but it can still make good finds and will always put a smile on ya face and will put the fun back in to detecting, Sure we got all singing all dancing ones now but Old School still works Too.

I still have a Brand New MXT All Pro still in the Box that I never used as well as a couple of Spare Battery Boxes, I also bought about 8+ Coils for mine from the tiny 4x6DD and the 5.3 Concentric right up to the 15" MXT Max Concentric Coil, It's a beast if you want to dig Monster Holes on larger target a few feet deep but even as big as it is, It can still see bits of lead weighing 0.02 and 0.03 grams,

Anyways I hope that helps, Good Luck and have fun,👍

I still got  a brand new never used Blue Box 5900 Pro, The person I bought it from bought it New and put it away pretty much like I have and It is still unused and they are extremely power for a VLF, and it has some good tricks up it's sleeve, You can ground balance out hot rocks or anything magnetic to where you get a slight whooshing sound and with a bit of fine Tuning you can make them Vanish,

They are more powerful than anything we have today where what a modern machine can do with a 15/18" coil it will do it with the 950 coil so heaven knows what it will do with a 15" concentric fitted,

The way we detech nower days you have either got to be power hungry to want the Blue box 5900 or have a spacific task for it to perform.

Interesting results, Still gotta love the ultra lightweight Nox, I still have a brand new MXT All Pro here Boxed,

One thing to note is maxing out the S.A.T. like that can reduce the depth with the MXT's but even so it still held it's own against a modern machine In a fair shootout which was nice to see,

I have 8 coils for mine 5 of them have never been used.  👍

In a perfect world it's a nice dream, but like many here we have invested $$$$ and thousands of hours in testing White's products already so the willingness to invest even more is at an all time low. This is your dream not ours and I wish you luck.

The sentiment is nice but Whites willingness to give a thought about their customers has been less than economical and I think you would be hard stretch to find anyone here willing to help a company that has ignored the many requests for simple features for at leased the past 10 years in favour of their own career goals, Whites had the machines that could out gun all other VLF's 10/20 years before everyone else but they rode that train too long, If they had added the new features to a couple of their machines they would still be at the top, Companies from the EU saw the value in listening to their customers and Whites started the beginning of the end and even now they are blaming other countries for their downfall, They did not listen and they knew better, Or so they thought.

As companies go they don't deserve a second chance if the current management is involved,

Yep the V3/V3i was well ahead of it's time and in one respect it is almost future proof, Like a couple of early Whites machines you had to be a rocket scientist to understand them, They have far more adjustability beyond the scope of most detectorists, and if they had given it the MXT's Tracking it would of been even hotter on Gold for those who like an All In One machine.

I am in no hurry to get my hands on the next best thing, Even against the newer models I am not loosing any ground but I am not gaining any either, My MXT has not stopped working just because someone has come out with a new machine, And all the wild claims that were posted before the NOX was released turned out about 5% truth and the rest was wishful thinking, It's a Great machine but it never made all other detectors obsolete and the end product is just another damn good detector,

As a good all rounder the Fisher F-75 DST is the only machine I would like,

I like what the MXT can do but like everyone else when it comes to detectors I am looking for the magic bullet and as of yet I have not found anything they ticks all the boxes, and the closest thing I have seen is one of the last models of the F-75,  I was impressed with one of the Nokta's but there was one small niggly thing that put me off of it,

I like the MXT but that's as far as it goes I am sure I would be happy with one of Fisher's offerings, I like the info the F-75 gives a person and the F-5 is a great little machine to keep in the boot/Trunk, Of coarse there are better machines out there than the MXT but it's more of a case of matching the machine to the task at hand.

When it comes to depth of a machine, If I want more depth I change coils where as in the past I have wasted a lot of money jumping from machine to machine due to economic dealers I have about 8 coils ranging from the 4x6 right up to the 15" concentric, One thing I really don't like about many newer machines is the digital signal bleeps they just sound harsh on the ears, and some will only run the tracking in certain modes and vice versa in stead of having all options in all modes and I don't like pre set tracking modes either and as old as the MXT is the only thing missing is Manual GB and a Volume control, People have been asking Whites for those features for years but it never happened and other brands made it happen,  Whites fitted that voltage booster on the 24k They could of fitted these three things to a new light weight MXT Mk 4 but that never happened either,

I am not stuck in a rut over the MXT I am just trying to find a good replacement.

1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Actually they are made of aluminum, and I’d love to see proof for your assertion that the MXT has found more gold than any other VLF. I very much doubt that claim, since the MXT was never that popular as a prospecting detector compared to many other models worldwide. There are numerous machines that can make a better claim than the MXT for found gold. T2, Eureka Gold, Gold Bug Pro, Gold Bug 2, probably even the GMT, etc.

Steel or Alloy, it's a metal Box, I have never scrapped the powered coating off of mine to seen what metal they used,

I remember you finding a lot of gold with yours, in fact your biggest nugget to date was found with the MXT and there were many reviews and pictures on the Whites web site showing quite a few people there finding multiple ounces of Gold 18"+ deep and more, And as you once posted the MXT has found hundreds of ounces of gold at Ganes Creek alone. You also posted that one prospector alone had found over 100 ounces of gold using his MXT..

And the eureka gold was always a bit lacking when it came to depth and seemed better suited to it's 20khz setting and many people liked the eureka but it was never known as a solid performer where as the GMT and the MXT with their superior tracking system seemed to produce the result on a more regular basis,

As for the T2 it's is a good machine but appears to be a watered down version of the F-75, And although some like the Gold bug Pro I never have liked them, I have tried them I just don't like them.

Having read your stories of you using the Infinium  and the MXT at Ganes and the GP3000 and the MXT At Fortymile etc You found a lot of Gold with your MXT and you were very impressed how well it worked for you, and to date I have seen more Gold found by you using your MXT in one Post than I have seen in every post I have read involving the T2 and the Eureka Gold, Including my own small successes with the MXT,

Over the past 18 years Whites sold 10's of thousands of MXT's and I have known people to find Gold with them from the US to Australia, It might be considered as heavy at 4.3/4.7 lbs but I think it is double standards when people complain about the weight of the MXT yet they never complain about the weight of their GPX5000 @ 5.3 lbs + the 1.72 lbs for the battery grossing out at over 7.02 lbs when fitted with the smaller 11" coil, It seem that all the detectors of the past that can find gold seem to be a little over weight including the SDC and the GPZ/GPX and I think it is a small price to pay when the rewards can be many.

5 minutes ago, Rob in (ca) said:

I’ve owned the MXT Pro / sport / V3i ..... all Three are very great detectors ...found lots of Jewelry with all  Three ......the AT Pro came out & dominated the industry  ....then came the Nox  

Everyone Today is after light weight,  high performance, affordable (do it all) Detectors. 

I don't like the newer plastic detectors I prefer the heavier black box Whites machines because they are made of steel, The MXT is a Gold magnet and has found more Gold than any other VLF to date,  A lot of these newer machines are making some good finds and coils nower days seem to be more sensitive than what a lot of companies have produced in the past.

3 hours ago, Rob in (ca) said:

Bottom line......... Equinox at a very affordable price point with high performance plus a very high customer satisfaction Rate. 
 

Turned The Whites MXT / MX Sport / V3I Line into overpriced boat anchors

Whites only had two choices ...... start selling V3I’s for $899 MX Sports $499 or close the doors and shut the lights off. 
 

I was looking forward to the new V3I in the MX Sport housing ......hope Whites makes a fast U Turn ...... All There employees are back on there feet  in a short time. 

So what other detectors do you own ?

21 minutes ago, phrunt said:

Last time I went to the airport I took particular note of the metal detector I had to walk through it was a CEIA, I'd never heard of them but it seems they're an Italian company.  I was going to say there are so many airports in the world and they'd use their scanners for a number of years so they wouldn't sell many.  Then I recalled my sister who lived in Canada said in the US and Canada even schools run these things.  I thought she was joking at first so I guess if they're at schools they're probably at a lot of places over there.   I've seen Garrett make hand held wand style ones too, I guess they use them at prisons here.  I've never seen one used.

I've got one of those hand held wands, they are pretty good for their intended purpose.

Nice, thanks for that,

I remember the talk about it a while ago but I forgot about it, Garrett has made some good machines over the years.

7 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Not a chance. If any U.S. company will be last man standing, it’s Garrett.

It has been a while since the AT and the AT Gold and the ATX came out and what ever they have been up to lately, maybe they have got some new toys on the way,

Although the ATX is a Beefy machine I still like em. but over here the importers took them from £1000/1400.00 to £1999.00 in a matter of months and there is no way would I pay that for one not when a GPX can be had for not much more.

6 minutes ago, phrunt said:

I can live without the 24k but I'm pretty disappointed I didn't get a TRX.  Hopefully another manufacturer makes a pin pointer for gold prospectors one day.

Without engineers White's is done for, they're the heart of the business.  All they could do now is reproduce their existing machines, but so can the Chinese.

As Geo pointed out a while back, The Engineers were never given free reign and were held back, That's the worst type of job to have where the pioneers of a company are not allowed to breath.

7 minutes ago, Geotech said:

There's still a chance, dunno how much of one.

Well maybe fresh new blood is what it needs to keep the brand alive,

It would be great for the Workers to have their jobs back and have new management to steer the ship with no connection with the present owners or office staff.

1 minute ago, Geotech said:

 and all the White's engineers are gone.

Well if that is the case there is No chance of the company being rescued or bought as a going concern,

So the bottom line is Whites Electronics is Dead and the only deal they can get is to sell all the Tooling and the buildings and the brand name which is not worth much.

So things are worse than they say,  I am glad they have not lost their sense of humour in blaming Detector companies from Europe being ( N/M ) Portraying them selves as the Victim and the whole world was against them. Even in Defeat they can't except that they were wrong, Blind as well as Stupid and they deserve everything they get.

3 hours ago, phrunt said:

I think they've be surprised how positive people take things if the truth about the situation is given, communication is so important for a business and customers can be very forgiving if they're told the truth and communicated to very well.

If they came out and said they were struggling as sales were slow who knows how many people would come out of the wood work and buy that detector, coil or pinpointer they'd been thinking of buying for a long time and never got around to it.   I'm sure a lot of people would have wanted to help them, instead they just stay silent.

That's very true, I was thinking of buying the 24k but the cloak and dagger behaviour is still their number one priority, just like 4 years ago protecting their own image/backside is far more important than that of the brand and the Jobs of the lower ranks,

Alas It's too late to waste money on Whites when there are too many good companies out there who do listen like Nokta/Makro, Fisher and Minelab and XP,

I hope Garrett are taking note or they will be the next company who bite the dust.

Steve I have never posted all of what was going on behind the scenes I just stepped back from it all because at the time I was too angry at certain people for the garbage they posted in my "Inbox"  That's the thing that made it personal, So staying away from it all was the best option because I am Ok until I'm pushed.

This is the first time I have mentioned all what was going on, and now I just don't care although I do find it amusing how the mighty have fallen, Sad but true, because there was a time when any of my spare cash went on Whites products,

The knock on effect from all of this is that now I no longer trust detector companies and I won't be buying another machine until either the dealers or the companies can prove that it is a step up or it can do what mine can't because my interest in the hobby is stuck in first gear after all this and I have almost finished putting my camper together so I can go off detecting and start A fresh, So far it has chewed up well in to 5 figures and I am looking forward to go detecting for weeks at a time.