auminesweeper

Yeah, I tried to get my wife to do the digging but she won't dig...she would rather supervise...

 

fred

Well The best way to get her to do the digging is to Start and keep making a mess of it and they get the ump with ya and take over, But don't ask her how she did it coz she will start giving you lessons, Next minute ya on ya Own, doing the digging.

Huh,, and they said Romance is Dead      I still got it after all these years,.

John,  I wish to  thank you for your follow-up to Steve's posting on  'VLF concentric or  DD coils'.  I had been infrequently watching  the post and became concerned about the suitability of the older  White's concentric coils to match up with the newer GMT.  Having Steve explain that some machines (ie.T2)  were designed specifically for  DD type coils made me wonder about the White's GMT design. You have put that question to rest and I thank you for your posts. The topic itself, thank you Steve, gave me a much better understanding of the parameters of the VLF system.            Don

A couple of Days Back I noticed that Inside the front cover of the Manual on the Right hand Page If you Look at the Last Paragraph Jimmy S, States There that The GMT Can Use The Older Goldmaster Coils,

And I must admit I am seeing A Huge Target Size Difference, The Last Piece I tested I can not pick up and I had to use pointed Surgical Tweezers to get a hold of it, The Twin D 6X10 can't even See It, Come to think of it Neither can I,,,lol

john

I just responded on Bill's forum and noticed that the poster did not know how to spell archeologist ... so how professional could 'she' be?

I cant Spell Archaeologist either, Oh %$£& I just did,

Haha,, I cheated and used Google,

Miss Spent Youth is my excuse and I'm Sticking to it.

john

Oh my--Good catch!!!

 

I will chang4e that now before anyone goes bonkers...lolol

A True Pioneer, So Fearless,

Im not concerned with hackers, as much as trackers.

 

It's getting cheep to slap a hidden GPS transmitter on a unsuspecting prospectors rig.

 

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Yes Chris that is Another concern along with being followed, Of coarse Detector theft is A major Issue and if your Data is Lat/Longs are in the Z then your secret is out there for others to exploit.

Lovely Gold, Thanks for posting the Pictures,, John

Gosh, You'll never make it on 600 a week--you better look into the 7500.... "Overbuilt"  for those who are discriminating-------- types ......of people...lol

I'm Sure you meant The 7005, And did not mean to lead them A Stray

The 7005 comes with a Taser Built into the hand grip on the GPS Button, just To discourage them Nosey Types,

John- He used a Joey coil.

I found that to be A Hot Coil Too, It's no wonder he is doing so well, I hear the newer ones are water proof??

Thanks again,, John

WTG, That's quite a Haul, I don't think your Missing Much, What coil was you using to find those little ones??

Thanks for posting them,, John

I agree with you Steve, although I do a lot of Air Testing My main reason is to see if the Coil will pick up Tiny Items and at what distance Because although they are not what I am Looking for, the better they can pick them up the better they will pick up the coins and things that I am looking for and also I do these tests to check out the Coils Detection Field This is the most Important Part of Air Testing because I Once bought A Coil that had me wondering why my finds rate had gone down, So by using a 0.12gm Test piece I started to Map my Coils and I do this with all coils, My Sovereign GT with the 8", 10" and the Platypus could not see it yet when I put the Little Joey on it could and then I started finding Silver Hammered Coins and the Depth of the 10X5 On Thinner sectioned Coins was A lot better than the Bigger Coils. Of Coarse Things have Changed and Moved on and now Most Machines and Coils Are Fire Breathing Monsters and it is now getting harder See differences with all these different Models.

John

Glad you are finding that concentric coil useful!

Thanks to You Rick and Steve, I now have More Options, I won't Forget That Mate,

Good Luck,, John

I can see how this Detector based GPS can be A Bonus, Having had my back pack stolen with my GPS, Phone and food supplies and water in it Not 30 feet away from it and certain test pieces as well, That got to me that much I stopped detecting for 5 months,

Well done Minelab for making such A Useful set up, I think all a persons Data should be safe as Minelab are more about Selling Detectors than going prospecting and I would think that their workshop computers would be confined to an internal system and not be connected to the outside world,

When I am going to an Area I look it up on google Earth then Take co-ordinates from features within the area and place marker pins on the Photo and print another photo without any markers then I email them to my Tablet so then I have all the info to hand which is then also on my phone, When I go off to some of my spots I have the Internet if I need them so I can use Google Earth if I need it or spend the evening searching for new features,

Then when I am in the Field I use A Garmin GPS 76 because it does not have mapping software keep popping up on the screen and the only info that is there is what I put there.

Here's A Tip for all of you that use G.E.

If you use it on A LapTop you can see features that you won't on A TV type Monitor, I found by Accident that if you Tilt the Screen backwards on a laptop It made Ghost Features stand out and I managed to find a Roman Villa By doing this, Then I took the Co-ordinates off the screen as well as putting pins in the picture and then I took them to the field and then I Gridded the area with marker pegs and string and kept doing this until the whole area was done, And I found Roman floor tiles and Roman Coins.

So before you head out give that a go because old waterways and Dwellings will show up to about 15 to 20% better, It Does not work so well on tablet PC's either

Thanks Steve for those Beautiful Pictures,

John

Hi John.

We'll stick to the MXT (you have the All Pro?) and GMT since you own and use them. If you want a heads up on other brands with tracking, or units that will not track out a target, or units that have tracking which really do not track at all, give us a hoy.

The ground changes far too quickly here and with too high a mineralization mix for both the MXT and GMT to operate in tracking, even on a single two foot swing. The tracking on both units is not a well engineered tracking system, period.

The Ground Tracking on both can never be trusted on our fields. Deep whispering of actual signal responses (heck even close to surface good responses on small nuggets) will be tracked out third time passed instantly. At around the same time it takes for us to check non repeatable ground noise or repeatable hot rocks.

Never sight the screen on either, for visual ID or Iron Id, they malfunction on our ground and all deep gold is relegated to Iron, not just by Whites units on hot ground, but by every detector ever made, Minelab coin units do it too even over fluffy dirt if the sig response is just at or slightly above a good detection level depending on settings used.

The good news however, the really good news, is that the manual GGrab on them is spot-on, almost instant, and can be trusted more than your best mate.

If you are running your Gain, Threshold Hieght and SAT speed at the levels that match and don't mess with each other on the hot ground you are on, you can detect quite a distance before re-grabbing again, which is so quick to do on the fly.

Both are extremely underrated units here, and can handle hot ground and be worked extremely well by those that understand them.

While I have a liking for the MXT pro and love my lower freq vlf's and feel the 14kHz is ideal.... I do tend to place the GMT well above it in overall hot ground performance. In fact my SDC has been relegated from two jobs in favour of the GMT.

Your 2oz nugget scenario 8" under could have hundreds of different outcomes between the two units due to ground types. Funny enough coil for coil (10x5 or 14x8) on both machines, I'd favour the GMT even at the higher 50kHz, because I believe the units correlation of settings behave better than the MXT's do.

(You'd be surprised how many GPX's wouldn't even murmer on an 2oz piece at 8" in certain ground) so don't ever get deflated if your Whites cannot.

G'day Argyle, A couple of years ago I Took my first MXT Pro back home To Nambour QLD and I did find 3 small nuggets with it, The combined weight of about 3.3 grams and it worked well there, So I thought, but after that I was wondering about if there were any deeper nuggets, And To be honest I have never used the Tracking because I always lock it and use the Grab, But I get so focussed on detecting I do tend to forget to up date the tracking or pay attention as to when I need to update it, So I become the weak link, I have to be on Guard  all the time to make sure this does not happen, 

With the MXT I love the Smoother prospect mode compared to the GMT because it sounds harsh / Sharp, On tiny Bits the GMT see's them a lot deeper but once the Targets get up around 0.15+ grams the MXT seems to start catching up using the Standard 10" Coil, So I need the 6X10 to see A Fair comparison,

Because I am over here I have never come up against any Ground that is A Problem, Some of it does get quite high but nothing too serious,  Having Tried quite a few other machines the MXT and the GMTs I seem to be at One with,

I was always under the impression that the GPX was Bullet Proof when it came to Aussie Soil, So thanks for pointing That out, It just goes to show that there is no perfect detector and the fact is we need many to cover all bases, I have A TDI SL because it has the Target selection switch but I am still looking at the SDC and a GPX 

Thanks for Clearing up so many myths, Real World Info is So Hard to Find,

John

John,  I wish to  thank you for your follow-up to Steve's posting on  'VLF concentric or  DD coils'.  I had been infrequently watching  the post and became concerned about the suitability of the older  White's concentric coils to match up with the newer GMT.  Having Steve explain that some machines (ie.T2)  were designed specifically for  DD type coils made me wonder about the White's GMT design. You have put that question to rest and I thank you for your posts. The topic itself, thank you Steve, gave me a much better understanding of the parameters of the VLF system.            Don

Thank you for your kind words, But it was Steve who Started the Fire, I just Chopped the Wood,

He got me thinking about the GB II having a Concentric and although the GMT has all the Extra Bits on it, So what would happen if I put a Concentric on the GMT,   Well the First thing I Noticed was it saw my tiny test piece at 3 X the Distance and the Real surprise was how my Test  Ground Balance went from 79 down to 65, which to me says the Longscan (concentric) has some kind of smoothing effect, Which hopefully means I can use it in hotter ground and still find those Tiny Nuggets, And That would explain why so many folks love the Older Goldmasters, Because it has Made my GMT see bits As small as the GB II, But I have A Meter and Auto Tracking, So I now have A Goldbug Master or A GMT GB II, lol. either way because of those 2 changes were so huge I would urge others to try that combination, Also this set up has the Ability to see the gold that the Shooter Does  maybe smaller?? it means you can cover more ground but not loose sensitivity to Gold that you have to wet your finger in order to pick it up, 

I haven't tested the 8X14 concentric yet.

Hope this helps,, Good Luck,,, John

In the past we have used VLFs for Nugget hunting and everyone was over the moon with their machines and since the Birth of the PI a lot of people put down VLFs, Which is A Bit unfair Really, 

We have seen all the manufacturers Telling us all how good their machines are and about the Difference with their tracking systems etc etc,

In OZ a certain Famous Gold Nugget was found with A Garrett and that was a VLF although the nugget was Huge it was found about a Foot Deep, No Doubt our Machines have moved on Since the 1980s and Now we have different types of Tracking systems,

The Theory of these system is to Balance out the Ground and keep the Detector running Smoother by making the Ground Invisible to the detector, Well If This Is The Case then why when we GB our machines Does the Ground still give us Problems, Like Drag down the VDIs or make Gold Give an Iron Signal or Reduce the Depth of the machine when the Ground balance was supposed to Take Care of that Problem??

So If the Ground is still causing problems  It makes me Wonder if I am in fairly hot Ground and I wave my coil Over a 2 ozt Nugget ?  ( I wish ) would I still hear it at about 7 to 8+ inches using My MXT, Or Would My GMT do it better.  I know the 14 kHz will work better and deeper in hot ground, But after reading A Famous prospectors comments I am not sure about which machine would find that 2 ozt Nugget easier.

Thanks Guys,, John

On 4/16/2015 at 8:48 PM, reidman said:

Created a pack for the SL I can run 4 18650 3400 mah cells for 14.8 to 16.8 volts has full balance and protection circuit.

I also have a 6 cell 4000 mah pack 12.6 volt. You can get them on Ebay. Also have 6800 mah TDI & Pro batteries. And 5 cell TDI 18.5 volt 3400 mah packs. 

G'day Mate

Can you tell me did you make these or Buy them, Because I could use 2 or 3 of these,

John

It's a good detector. I found my first piece of gold with it and I continue to find nuggets with it. Sometimes it works better for me than my GPZ depending on the terrain, particularly in rocky dry washes. I can get the small coil into tight spaces and around boulders and stuff pretty easily. And because it's a PI it'll still detect large, deep targets so you don't have to worry about missing those.

I only have a few gripes. It's kind of annoying that you have to use a separate adapter to use a 1/4" headphone jack. I've left that back in the truck a few times and have had to just use the external speaker. With headphones the volume is quite low too. I have a B&Z Booster but it's a little annoying running all the separate wires and stuff and it does take a bit of fiddling to get rid of the audio feedback buzzing in the headphones. The detector is also quite sensitive to EMI and it often takes me a dozen or so tries with the noise cancel button to get that cleared up. It may also be the areas I detect in as well but my GPZ isn't as affected by it.

That's adapter is a problem for most owner, But that is what happens when they use a Military Platform to make A Prospecting Machine, Mind you I love that Idea and the Recon/ATX, But that's just me I love Military Grade Gizmo's, But that don't Suit Everyone,

John

Auminesweeper

 If you and others will write a story and find someone to be the judge. I'm willimg to supply the prize of one  7 grain Ghost nugget. The nugget is thin like a leaf with one detector can see it and another not to be.

 I will also ship free to anyone in the world. The only thing I'd like for all people on other forums enter if they like.

 The Best!

Chuck Anders 

Thanks Check that's Brilliant, that will make One Lucky person very Happy. 

john

  If such a thing takes place all of the stories should be collected and sent to the ICMJ. I believe a collection of very short stories would make a well read article or two.

 I would be glad to help judge as I am an experienced expert on B.S.

It sounds like Steve H. doesn't need any extra projects or to have to put any more time in this forum so let's not wear him out- I don't think he could ever be replaced.

That's Ok, What ever you think works best, It's just a bit of light Hearted Fun. I'm happy to go along with what ever,

John

Ok that's Fine I will Think up something easier and less involved but fun all the same.

Thanks Mate,

John

Well, I guess I am not sure what you mean. You want to run a competition and offer some sort of prize?

Yes, something simple, IE we Submit a Story/Topic Like some that we have had this past month, we could pay $1.00 or $5.00 To Submit it or what ever people decide the amount should be and The Best One Wins the Pot,

John

Steve I was wondering if you would agree to a small Competition Here, Nothing serious just a bit of Fun, IE for the most Inspiring stories, Or the person who perceivers to succeed whether it be a new machine or chasing that elusive First Nugget or even the Biggest Nugget, Basically to the person who does what he can even when they keep hitting a Brick wall, Or what ever other Reason you can think up,

As you might of Guessed I got A few Ideas,

Thanks Mate,, John

Got my replacement "upper armrest assembly" from Minelab yesterday. They sent it out really fast via USPS Priority Mail, I was really surprised. Pretty happy with their customer service so far.

I've got enough extra parts for my SDC 2300 to last me awhile now. Works as a good "pinpointer" for my GPZ 

See,, That's what I like about these Top Companies,,, That Extra Mile and another Machine Ready to Do Battle, The More I read about the SDC the More I want One. I love that VLF Nugget ability that it has and it does it all day Every Day.

WTG MINELAB,, True Champions.

Thanks Steve,

So although this 6x10 Longscan see's the same Tiny test piece's as the Twin D does just at twice the depth then The Next coil has to be the 4x6 Shooter (DD)

I have never thought much of the shooter coil But some times the 6x10 Visually gets in the way when you are trying to see into cracks in bedrock as you sweep.

Thanks Again Mate,, john

Does anyone know if there was a smaller Coil than the 6X10 Long Scan (concentric) Coil for the Early GM Series Like the shooter or a round version?

Thanks everyone,,  John

When I first saw this machine My Thoughts were not good, but the more I see this Machine the more I want one

My campsite is shown at the start of this video I did a few years ago.

We have done 4 laps of Australia in this caravan and been to nearly every goldfield. Shower/toilet etc built in. Solar for the beer fridge. No need to rough it.

What A great little spot, Thanks Trent for the Great Video,,  Thumbs Up For the Mrs Good Camera Work,

I'd like to see a Bit More dedication Involving The Beer Mate, we have do have Standards to up Hold,lol

Seriously Great Video.

John

PS, I Subscribed to your channel

Reg has been So Patient Ever since the SL came out Answering questions, When it comes to the SL despite my findings I still Ask Reg, If you find something that works for you That's Great, and what ever others say, Reg is Still The Best Man For the Job,

I think it's great how you have got Coins popping out of the Ground, Keep up the Good work, I would like to know why your VLF never saw Them.

Thanks for Your Post