auminesweeper

Heres a couple of the vibro probes which seem pretty Cool

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Treasure-Products-Vibra-Probe-580-PinPointer-Underwater-Metal-Detector/271143711805?_trksid=p2047675.c100013.m1986&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D31192%26meid%3Df19ed28140ac434b871bc35d55d4f489%26pid%3D100013%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D13%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D171803420606

heres the other type

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Vibra-Tector-730-Pinpointer-FREE-Shipping/361301060293?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D31192%26meid%3D80da47a173b3461a99e65d2a891673b5%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D271143711805&rt=nc

John

just a quick Update,, I recommended those Energizer ultra Lithium disposable batteries to some one in OZ, Each Battery had 1.8487 volts and a total of 14.79 voils after his first day detecting (7 hours) He still Had 12.37 Volts Left. he got 7 hours one day and 2 hours the Next day, and he changed them when they go to 10.8 volts, Still Not Flat, So you should get about 10 hours out of them which Is Great for a Back up and that is about 2.3 Times the Burn time of the factory Pack,

Good Luck,, John

The person who runs Bill's forum is Skip.  I'll copy and past this for skip.

 

Mitchel

Its Ok Thank you for offering But someone has given Him the Message,

Thank you all for responding,

Blessin's ,,  John

On 4/17/2015 at 7:45 AM, Reg said:

Here is  a link to the ebay listing.  i bought one and just finished charging it.  Now, I have to wait until it quits raining to try it.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TDI-SL-metal-detector-battery-charger-/221741088697?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a0cc7fb9

 

 

Reg

Reg,, Any Updates on the Burn time with this New Pack,

I have stopped testing for A Little while because I am waiting for Parts coming from the US,

Thanks Mate,, John

Jim is a good guy, and i have known Jim for years, but he doesn't have a forum of his own. He posts on several forums. Which forum are you trying to join?

Sorry Chris I got the wrong person, As Steve Just Pointed out Its Bill Southern I need to sort this Out,

Thanks Again Mate,, John

Jim posted on Robs forum yesterday http://forums.nuggethunting.com/index.php?/topic/11486-ferrite-tube-gb-method-dont-have-them-yet-video-included/#entry80213

If you are having problems with Bill's forum (Nuggetshooters) then Bill Southern is who you are looking for. Jims "forum" is just a dedicated thread hosted by Bill.

Thanks Steve, well it must be Bill who I need to sort this out then,

Sorry I thought It was Jims Forum,

Sorry Chris,,  John

Thanks Chris,,  Its Nugget Shooter forum

Here- http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index.php?act=idx

John

G;day Folks

Does anyone here Know Bill Southern, Because I joined his forum because I need to talk to some one there And There seems to be an Approval Issue thing going on there and I cant contact anyone Or Post ther even though I am Now A Member there,

Thanks Guys,, John

I know Exactly what you Mean, I am the Same with The MXT,

Because My Hunting Style may Differ From yours When you find A Machine that Fits you not the other way round Its wrong to go against the Grain, and although you found a lot of Gold with the MXT, I think the F75 has put the spark back into VLFs for you, You keep going back to it, Maybe it's a Chain you shouldn't Break

with MXT I can Out Hunt Most people because It seems to work the way I do, It Whooped my Etrac and my Sovereign GT, When I Detect, I don't zigzag like I use to coming home from the Pub, I Grid the Area and Take GPS Readings and put down Maker stones etc and keep Pictures on a tablet PC,

I had the F4 for a while and it was good for the Price I have been pondering about the F5 but the F75 is calling, Thing is do I need it, Honestly?? No. It's gone up in price by about $500 - $600 since 2011 over here, But Due to the success I have had with The Past MXTs I am not prepared to risk that And this new One Is Hotter than the Last One, It picks up my hand between 6 to 8 inches So I am expecting good things this year, But Like Ivansgarage, I do have the urge to have A GB2 But that's a matter of want NOT need,

I think If I keep the MXT, GMT and the SL as my Standard Tool Kit, It won't Hurt to Try a few of these others, None of them is going to break The Bank and they would make First Class Back ups,

John

You have been running the F75 on and off for about the Last 5 years, What is the main Attraction with that machine for you, Because you keep coming back to it Like you did with the MXTs.

John

Steve Have you Got the F19, I was thinking about that machine and the F75 but the F75 is about $1500+ over here.

John

I don't think I need another Vlf detector for nugget hunting.

Don't Let Steve Catch you Talking Like That, He hates people being Foul Mouthed, Cussing "n" Such,

Like All XP Machines the Deus Can be put to work and Live to tell the Tail, It's just Over engineered for the Task, The GB2 and The GMZ,, GMT and The Lobo etc all have more than enough to complete the Task, And The Battery Life on these Machine is A Dream,,, I got 57 Hours out of a set of Duracells and they still weren't Flat in the MXT, But I changed them anyway,

I think the GB2 will put food one ya Table and be a lot of fun Too, the TDI SL will do the Deed but check out those Miner John Razorback Folded Mono Coils like the 6x10/5x9 and the 7.5x11.5 ?? they seem to doing the Business In OZ.

Good Luck,,John

Far Out!!! This Is a Fantastic Place, When we Can Talk about the Most Iconic Gold Machines and there's No Sheila, Patronising with the Famous One Liner, ( That's Nice Dear ).

Steve, Tell Reception To Hold all My Calls, I'm Polishing My Pick.

I have heard good things about that Vibro Probe 580?? PI pin pointer abut it has Tilt switch set up which I don't Like,

My new Bullseye II works down to about 0.05 - 0.06 grams +/- and It runs a 36khz and a lot of people were complaining about the newer lower frequency models setting off their Machine whether PI or VLF and the Best bit about the Older model is you don't have to Tart around to adjust it, Now that with a Modern Housing would be Cool With a Ratcheted Twist Knob on the end of the handle so it cant be moved by Accident,??  To Adjust the Sensitivity and a good Push switch like the old But waterproof .

I put some test pieces on those magnetic signs and it still ONLY picked up the test bits,

John

I also have one of them Security wands they can work Ok But might lack the sensitivity on small Item a coil

Well Steve I can get you some covers for that Tesoro, Then you can Belt mount the control box and have the Coil/Shaft in a Holster around you back to keep it out the way and you will never forget or loose it again,

Yes/ No ??

john

Well, it is something to do with the composition of the steel. Stainless steel for instance is difficult for detectors due to having both poor conductivity and low magnetic properties. This being a hardened steel something similar is going on.

I had you check the ground balance to see if the metal was acting similarly to mineralized ground and being balanced out to some degree. Could be all of the above but by definition metal detectors pick up highly conductive or items with high magnetic permeability so this screw lacks both those properties.

Well I am Glad you did Steve, Because just when I was feeling over confident about how I use my machines this proves that Discrimination whether it be Machine made Or Man made We should never take Our Settings for granted,

I just tested a Rusty Nail the same size but a 1/4 of an inch longer holding it east to west the MXT gave a good signal at 10-1/4 inches or 260mm.

What this all proves is what you said way back and how Critical the Disc setting becomes if you use this Mode for Prospecting or where other High Value Items are at risk of being over Looked.

Thanks Steve,,

John

Ok, Right In the Relic Mode the MXT will just pick it up if the Gain is turned up as far as it will go and Only if it is within an Inch of the Coil, But any more than that and the signal turns to a Hot rock sound and it soon Fades within 2 inches and at 4 inches it has Gone, I tried the GB at 83 and 50 and it made no Difference,

In the Prospect Mode it sounds Like A Hot Rock until the V-Sat is above 7 and in Hyper Sat it sounds like A Target.

With the GMT Changing the GB did not work from 50 and 59 to 71 etc it gave the same signal at all setting, at 4"-3/8ths of an inch or 110mm the Zip Zip was all but Gone, But the Iron meter said it was 25%, And my Bullseye II running at 36khz will Only pick it up at 3/16ths of an inch, that's a new probe with new Duracell 9v in it,

This is A New one On me,,, john

PS, on the GMT with a GB of 00 the signal dropped to 2 inches and at 99 it went up to 6 inches.

I see what you mean by the Over lap now. Thanks for That.

So I re Tested the Coin and there is another problem, At 2 it Makes an Iron sound But at about 1.5/1.4 Down to 0.9 , IT then Makes A Hot Rock Sound but Lower than 0.9 it will Bleep and then I found Problem Number TWO.

Have you Ever Found A Nail that your detector wont Pick Up ?? well I just did, even In the Relic Mode at High Gain  ( pre Set ) on the MXT and no Matter where the Disc was set, and when I switched to Prospect  and turned it up flat out gives a soft sound Like A Hot Rock, Baring in Mind that for some reason this MXT with the Whites 10" DD can Pick up my Bare Hand at 6 Inches in the prospect mode and it will Bleep on it at 2 inches in the relic mode.

The GMT could only pick it up at 4 to 5 inches But it was giving a Target type sound,  This Nail is 1-11/16ths long

These Nails are used for Cladding and Double Glazing etc, Something is going on here??

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I have wondered what the attraction of running In All Metal was all about, I think I use the Disc Channel for A quieter Life which is The Lazy way out really, If I'm honest, But by running it your way A Person Gains maximum depth and there less chance of masking Targets

with Machines from the 2000s we seem to have a need to use the Disc on everything but using Disc modes they have become more of a Crutch than A Tool, I fell into that way of thinking And for a short while my finds rate Dropped.

With PI machines we all want a PI machine that can disc out junk yet when we use a VLF we try to run it at the Lower Limits. With Both types of Machines that Balance becomes even more critical In order to find Gold, People complain about VLF machines for prospecting when at one time that's all we had, Which makes your statement about using A VLF when ever you can even more factual because it was not by Accident that you have had the Success you have under all sorts of conditions,

Gold Detecting Needs to get back to its Roots.

Thanks Again,, john

Blessin's to A Great Man, God Bless His Family.

Thanks for posting this Steve.

John

Years ago Steve Told me about NOT setting the Disc above 2 when using the Relic Mode for Prospecting, But I have found that his settings also Applies to Hunting Roman and Hammered coins too, As I was setting the DISC at 2.8-2.9 although I did have a lot of success, It seems that I can find those coins within the first 4 to 6 inches and A lot of Targets can be Missed because after that they send back an Iron signal when in the Ground yet in air test they send a good signal up to a foot - 13".

I have found that either roughly setting it at 2 works Ok or as A Test piece to Calibrate it Properly as all Machines can  Vary even from the same factory from Coils to Battery Power Etc, For you people who  Are World Travellers and come over here to go Detecting, If you Get A New UK 5 pence piece and set your Disc up to the point where your machine (what ever Brand) tells you its junk then Back off the DISC so the Machine now makes it sound like a good signal That is the point you need to be Set At,

There is a Risk that you might dig a bit more Iron, But a fair bit of it will signal as Iron,

This way of setting the Machine will work for Gold Prospecting Too even more so if you have Nuggets with Iron Staining, Because it is low enough to allow the purities of the gold to come through which is also useful when searching for those elusive Tiny Gold Staters over here, and by using that 5 pence setting Nails with give an Iron signal one way and at 90 degrees they give a clear signal,

My Settings on the MXT's  were always 2.8 to 2.9 but using this method they are now at 1.7 - 2.2, It does not sound like much of an adjustment But Believe me it makes a heck of A lot of Difference, Like Small Gold to find Tiny Hammered Coins you have to dig a certain Amount of Trash and over here with 4 or 5000 years of metal workings we have our share of ferrous junk,

This is the Coin In Question

Hope this Helps,, john  

Sorry, Yes I should have said In the Relic Mode,

 Before I only ever used the Relic Mode but the more I use the Prospect Mode the more I like it, not only because it has the GND numbers but it is All Metal with A DISC readout which is really helpful for ID'ing Targets within Range but it still gives you full power/depth depending on conditions,

Thanks Steve,, John

Steve, I have been using the MXT's 3rd Tone for years Now, Have you ever use it When Prospecting and do you find it a useful feature, Its great on ploughed field where you can just kick back the dirt or in the bush, But some folks might get A Bit upset if you go doing it to their Lawns etc,

Using this method can and does Add up to about 6 inches in depth on coin sized Targets and on bigger Items it c an add over A foot In Depth using the Standard 10" Coil.

I don't know if many people know about this Third Tone, But we never hear of anyone using it, In Sites with less junk using the Third Tone Could really boost peoples finds Tally by the end of the Year,

Thanks Mate, John