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From what I see the US version of English and the OZ version, over the years both of us seem to have altered English a fair bit. I imagine a Englishman having a 3 way yack with a US and a OZ, would be totally lost. Even travelling OZ, I`ve found those from North OZ have altered English more than those from South OZ. We`ve all put a bit of colour in the language made it user friendly.

The way I see it is with proper English they will use a lot of long words in a sentence and in The US use's a lot of words but don't drag it out like the English and with Aussies we tend to shorten everything to the point of being blunt and it more often than not gets taken the wrong way as we do not mean to be short with People, It just gets the point over quicker but for those who are not use to it sounds like we are being Rude,

So if one day I happen to say something that sounds a bit off just think about it from 2 angles and somewhere in between is what I mean,

hope this helps, http://www.australianexplorer.com/slang/phrases.htm

John

I seem to be lost on Aussie terms vs American? Can you translate please? I take it a Thunder Box is an American Outhouse/bathroom? No idea what a News Agent is?

-Tom

Yes your right about the Thunder Box And A News agents is where you buy News Papers, Candy And Tobacco products etc

WTG, It great to see such good results.

Well done, John

You Aussies are the best!! I love my country, but its become too p.c. and get in touch with your feelings.

Mate I've Learned To Laugh at myself First before I laugh at Others, The Troubles I have had with Animals and Nature and I think I have been through it all or met folks that have,

If someone Has Told A Joke about some A funny situation, I would have to put up my hand up Because they could be Talking about me,

Like This for Instance,, Being A Shy Bushy And having never been to A Big City, At The Age of 17 I went To Brisbane one Day and I had Ran out of Smokes So Into the News Agents I went, And while I was waiting to get Served The Sheila In front of me Asked the woman at the Counter For A Roll Of Durex, Well My Face went as Red as A Baboons Backside and I'm thinking %$#@ These things Come On A Roll, I just looked at her and Said Geeze your A shy Girl Aye and Shot out the Door,

I Caught up with my Mate and he Told me That Durex Is A Brand of Sticky Tape In OZ, and she was Not Asking for a Roll of Gentleman's Accessories as I Thought

Not my Finest hour, Aye

John

No Mate, A Swamp Tiger can vary in color Depending which breed it is, The Critters find me even in Stealth Mode,

I was In the Thunder Box One day and I looked to see where the Dunny Paper was and I saw this Tongue flicking in and out from behind the Throne, Needless to say I had To Do The Drop Draws Shuffle out the flaming door Real Quick,,

Heck I can move when I have Too,, Gas Assisted you understand,

john

What A Great Thread, Hats off to all those involved,

If this machines unlike the Etrac can work in Very High Trash Then This Might well be my next Machine,

Thanks for posting and keep the info coming,,

John

They are certainly a good precaution. That being said, I don't wear them. I opted for the full leather upper boot. Ironically, I was bittten by a small Diamondback a few years back and I was not out detecting. I was in my back yard doing yard work. Damn thing bit me on the hand...it was well hidden  in some weeds. Didn't even rattle either. I'm more concerned about being bitten on the hand/arm while retrieving a target than being bitten on the ankle/leg. My experience almost killed me. Spent three days in ICU. Make sure you are aware of where you are reaching! I learned my lesson the hard way. Be safe.

 

Dean

Geeze Mate Sorry to hear that,  Am I right in thinking that Some Rattlers Cause Tissue Damage when they Bite??

 

My Cousin Got Tagged by A Swamp Tiger In OZ and it nigh On killed him, Lucky for him he was only 2 or 3 Miles from the hospital,  He just climbed down off a Ladder after painting the Gutters to check if he had missed any bits and he stepped back and wham, It Got Him Real Good.

 

john

4/5 years ago I bought a little Microscope that has a built in Camera and it plugs into my PC it was really good for IDing finds etc, I cant find the Link but if you search PC Microscope it will find you what you need,

 

Hope this Helps, John

Yes get a pair,for snake protection but they are get for cholla cactus.

Snakes can bite through boots the kind made out of cordura but snake gaiters will take care of that .

Thanks everyone for your help

I always wear leather Hunting Boots about 10" high but with my health issues and the Meds I am on I don't think It is a risk I can Take,

So I will see if some one will post me some,

Thanks again,, John

Thanks Mike,

Can Snakes get through you Boots or Not??

Thanks Gerry, I will Check em Out.

John

Hey John, I am not Gerry but I can tell that it is a Apex Pick.   Made in Idaho.... USA.......Idaho Al

Thanks mate, Now All I Need Is Someone who will send me One, I just can't Find one over here,

Thanks again,, John

Sorry to go off topic for A moment,

But Gerry Can you tell me where you got that Pick Coz I need one Real Bad with a 30" handle,

Again Sorry Gents, John

Get them from Az Outback. After you wear them for a few hours and get back to your vehicle you will forget you have them on. Oh, they are guarenteed against any North American snake bite.

Thanks GBRon, I will see if I can get some sent to me,

John

I wear snake gaiters...bought at bass pro couple years back, after almost walking on 3 rattlers in about 20 minutes. Cant tell ya if they work or not, havent tested them yet,lol. But they make me feel little better when hiking in rattlesnake infested areas.

3 in 20 minutes that's tempting Fate just A Bit, No wonder you wear them,

 

 

Yes they do work great. Not really sure whats in them. I almost think its a Kevlar panel, they are lite and do not hinder me at all while walking.

I Think I might try and find some if they are that good, I need something because I cant afford to take the Risks,

Thanks again,, John

Thanks Ken, Do they work and what are they made of, Although I am from OZ originally I never worried about using such things although I have had a few close shaves and I saved a mate once who was about to get Tagged by the Biggest King Brown I have ever seen,

For A while I was getting paranoid because they always seem to make a B-Line for me, and it has been the same with other Bities that seem to want to share my space, Only thing is Now I can't afford to get Bitten due to health reasons,

John

I just been reading on another forum about snake gators,

 

Do any of you wear them and do they work and who makes the toughest/Best ones you can Buy//

 

If you have photos etc please feel free to post them,

 

Thanks Everyone,,,  John

Thanks Again Reg, Your A Diamond as Usual Mate.

John

That's Great News, did you buy these or make them?? either way I want some, Can you please post the Link if you bought them, because this Looks Like the Answer to our Prayers, Well done Mate,

John

"I want something light and easy to navigate with as a first pass, knowing that I am going to be in high-trash areas as a starting point. Once I locate a promising area, I can then switch over to a higher-power detector like the GPZ and work the area more thoroughly."

Perfect! Some areas are just so laden with trash you need a way to figure out where to concentrate your efforts with a GPX or GPZ without digging a ton of junk. I think using a VLF to simply find a nugget and then switching to a PI and working from the nugget as a center point is a great strategy. If no more gold develops, back to the VLF until another nugget turns up, then back to the high power unit. Basically patch hunting in junk, using the VLF to find the indicator nugget, with the big guns for cleanup. Please do let us know how it works out.

Steve, That's about as good as any info gets, I have been thinking about doing just that and marking the junk before going back over with the PI so as not to forget where it is.

Thanks for posting it,

John

I use the ctx in heavy trash area's with larger gold like tailings over size piles with good success.

But on small gold in trash I'll reach for the gb2 over any other detector!

The ctx and gb2 cover my vlf/discrimination need's in the gold fields.

But my needs for a VLF in the gold fields are limited as I only use them in trashy area's

And even in trash I'll reach for a a gpx or zed first until trash gets unbearable.

But maybe a vlf is more useful in a broarder spectrum of areas in America where your soil is less mineralised.

I have used them up Around Gympie and In Red Dirt and they worked Quite well but where the soil is Changing A lot I ran it in Tracking as it is very fast and takes all the Guess work out of it,

John

I agree Steve, Maybe I should Referred to the CTX AS Not Being the Best Choice as opposed to being Useless, Sorry About That,

I Own 3 Machines and they Are The TDI SL, and the GMT and The MXT Pro, (soon to be Replaced by the ALL Pro ) because the Pro is 3 years old and out of Warranty,

I use the GMT because it Gives the operator some Visual Feed Back Regarding the Ground and Iron Content, The MXT is easier on the Ears, The SL is the best on the Ears and A Smooth operating Machine, The MXT is the One I use for unknown areas because it covers all Bases But it Tells me whether I Need to use the GMT or the TDI etc and if the MXT does the Job then I just Keep Going with it. and if I want to run the MXT on the Edge then I set the GB up more Positive, I don't have to do that with the GMT Because of it high sensitivity the Areas I hunt are fairly Mild so it picks up just about everything anyway and The Angry Bee Threshold can drive you nuts if you run with the Threshold to High when you take your head phones off every thing sounds weird for about half an hour afterwards, but because they all sound so different after about 10 minutes of detecting I take the phones off to check my ears just to check that the Threshold is not doing weird thing to my Ears,

I am waiting to hear more on the Fors Gold Before I get one, there are A Couple of things I don't like about it, But I am sure with the Purchase of A Minelab GP upper shaft I can Put that Right,

But The Gold Bug II has my Interest at the Moment

For those of you who wish to Know How well the MXT works in Hot Ground, Here's A Link that will explain How well it does,

http://www.goldsearchaustralia.com/index.php/mxt_stories

HH, John

Just wondering what you base this on? I know of one prospector (who posts here) that uses the CTX for just that - high trash areas. In 2012 he had netted over 2 ounces from these areas so I assume that would be much higher now. Not discounting the others - all good machines. The CTX statement seems a big call though?

Also my experience with the GMT on highly mineralised ground isn't glowing. It does ok but is a pain in highly variable ground & in some areas is useless. It overloads & doesn't handle the ground at all. In saying that I have found some gold with it but in milder conditions. Need to target specific areas with the higher frequency machines in my opinion.

I haven't used the MXT but have used its little brother the SST. It tracks well but was very susceptible to hotrocks even when dumbed right down. At 14khz I wasn't finding the usual bird shot etc. so I believe sensitivity in highly mineralised ground isn't good either. I had read elsewhere a claim that the 14khz MXT will find smaller than 0.06 gram bits in mineralised ground but I'd like to see that with my own eyes in ground that I consider mineralised. I doubt that the 14khz would be sensitive enough or the machine could handle the ground & maintain that sort of sensitivity. I could be wrong but like I said would like to witness that sort of sensitivity first hand.

VLF's can certainly still be useful in trashy goldfield areas & are underestimated I reckon especially in Australia. You do need to be choosey with areas though.

Well Actually Many People have stated that the CTX is not a good Choice for Prospecting, Even Minelab field Testers will tell you that,

Multi Frequency Machines have a slow recovery speed as I said before, Even An ALDI's Detector will find gold if it is big enough.

The MXT will see small Gold and it will work in Highly mineralized Ground and the Fact is that Both the GMT and The MXT were Made to Be used in Highly Mineralized Black Sand, And If you read the Manuals on Both Machines they Cover the usage In Such Areas, I have personal found 0.10 gram Bits with the MXT in Areas of hi Burning, with the Standard Coil, As For The GMT It was made for working in Hot Ground where gold is found, It is not A GPX and using a GMT is more about Skill than Beeping, The MXT will work In Very hot Ground Also because have A Lower KHz than the GMT it deals with the Ground and Hot Rocks a Little Better, Both Machines were Made for Prospecting, The CTX is just another version of the Etrac with a few Extra's,

As for the Sensitivity The MXT will see things down to about 2 Grains = 480 to an OZT or 31.1034768 grams, where as the GMT will see things down to 1/10th of A GRAIN,

As for the CTX's ground Tracking system, it is way too slow and when you consider that it only Takes ONE or TWO pumps of the Coil to GB the MXT or the GMT they are Still Regarded as the Best GB System In The World To Date, Even Minelab Know That. Hence why they reversed Engineered the MXT when they Were Designing the 705,

Multi Frequency machines will find Gold but it has to be of some weight or shape or Size before it see's it and in an area that has a lot of Iron it will be Less than useless because the Iron Mask system and around Iron Stone it will be a waste of time because the Iron Mask Keeps Nulling out the Threshold, The CTX is A Great Coin Hunting Machine but in Junk filled Sites the MXT will Leave it for Dead, I have Proved it and just this week a guy from Melbourne Proved it to him Self with his Etrac,

One thing to Take into Account is that the MXT has been Whites Highest Selling Machine for the Past 13 Years, And There Is A good Reason For that, I have Own 2 GMT's and My 3 MXT will be coming next week, I found More Gold with my MXT In ONE WEEK than I did with my Quatro and my Sovereign GT and my Etrac In 5 Years searching the Exact Same Patch, The Biggest Lump weighing 9.7 Grams, In Medium soil and the Problem was the Iron Mask even when it is Switched off it is NOT Disabled and is still running in the back Ground,

And another thing even when fitted with the Little Joey Coil 6x10 they will still not see fine Gold Chains where the MXT Screams on them,

I asked the Dealer about why does the Etrac and the CTX give so many different sets of numbers for a single Item and I got told "Oh just ignore the Screen" WELL If I am Supposed too Ignore it then Why did Minelab fit a screen to it in the First Place,

The Other thing to realize is that Minelab Machines are NOT True Multi Frequency Machines, The Correct Term would Be,, They Actually run on MANY Harmonics of a Frequency,

Will They Find Gold?? = YES But only Under Certain Conditions,

Will the GMT and the MXT Find Gold = YES Even in Bad Ground, You May not get Blistering Depth in such Places But they will still Work there just the Same,

If you Look for Dave Johnsons White Paper on these Machines and read his Comments A Decade or So After Building them You will See why They Are The Standard By which All Other Machines Are Judged, Someone Found a ONE ONCE Nugget with the MXT 18" Deep and Jimmy Sierra found a 2LB Nugget with one of the Early GMTs at 32" Deep, And Steve Has Found A few Clunkers with His MXT and his GMTs Too,

I am sorry if you do not want to hear this, But the History that these Two Machine have, No Other Machine has been able to Match. and if you search this forum you will see all the Proof you need, Better machines are coming out all the Time, But the Laws of Physics are what Dictates how well these machines work Not Whites and Definitely Not Minelab and All that Makers can do is Build Machines that will work with Nature Not Against It, IE Ground Balancing,and even though there are other machine coming out they Still do the Same Job, Just in A Different way,

Good Luck, HH

I'm wondering the same thing, I'm about to add a detector to the arsenal for high trash areas and probably 90% pure gold prospecting usages. I don't mean to hijack your thread but I was wondering is the F19 a good choice for a discriminating prospecting unit? I was really interested in seeing the Gold Racer but it's getting to the time where I need to make a purchase and can't keep waiting.

Seems like recent detectors are all pretty sensitive and deep (within a few inches) so it seems like the main criteria is superior discimination and target separation. Watching youtube vids and reading reviews (mostly coin/relic guys though) it seems to me like the F19 or the FORS is the best bet for those of us who can't afford the CTX?

The CTX would be Next to Useless for Prospecting In Hi Trash Areas because of the Iron Masking which gives it A Slow Recovery Rate, which means you could easily pass over many Nuggets before the Threshold returns, And the Tracking system can not handle the Hot Ground Like the GMT, MXT and the Fors Gold or the F75 SE and the Gold Bug Range of Machines.

Check Out Steve's Recommendations Here, http://www.detectorprospector.com/gold-prospecting-guides/steve-guide-gold-nugget-detectors.htm

Good Luck, John