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  1. 22 hours ago, Dances With Doves said:

    I have been playing around with the nox and gmx in  moderate ground and the nox keeps up with it but gives much better id than it for  small targets.  The nox  can do so much more then the Gmx.I can put on the 6'' coil and hunt a tot lot with the best of them. Walk 50 yards change coils,then walk 60 yards and  I am in the lake water hunting a  swim area  in the gold modes for small  gold and any big  targets that get in the way.I then go out to the 500 foot area in  front of this roped  area, put it in    park 1 f2-7 and I can get rid of most bottle caps and hunt    rings. I then can  put it in park 2 and have a better chance to get gold chains and smaller gold.I then can go about 400 yards to my   ghost  pier and hunt for silver coins in Park 1 f2-0 in the  big nails.What a machine.The Gmx is a great tot-lot machine and fun too.I am glad I have both  .THE last time water hunting me and my friend got 13 silver coins at the ghost   pier and it was the first time he water hunted with the nox .He also got a gold ring that was deep.By the way we have pounded  this silver spot.

    One of the reasons I sold my $2500 CTX 3030.  NOX can do so much more than the 3030 and the features the 3030 has over the NOX is as important.  As many know, the NOX is a way better nugget detector than the 3030, but realize the CTX was never designed for that purpose.

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  2. Now that is one of the better tests that I have seen.  The string swinging across the coil while the nugget is at the exact same location is much better than us trying to swing a detector over the same level on a target.  

    Thanks for sharing Steve, as this video will certainly show some folks the majority of smaller gold is found best with a small coil, as many of us old timers know.  Problem is so many never hunters feel bigger is better.

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  3. On 6/27/2020 at 10:05 AM, Dances With Doves said:

    You seem like a fun guy Gerry.You do better when you have fun.I  met Chris Gholson and his father at  Stanton an  they were  good guys.It was 2002 and I picked up a 4gram nugget that was 22k plus with nice   size 14k chain for $120 at that show.

    The Gholson family has been a big supporter of Minelab, especially back in the early days when Minelab was trying to get into the US market.  We all do things a little different, but learned to play well when around each other.  That piece you picked up most certainly has added some value since those days.  Just think if we could have known back then what gold would be at today.

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  4. Well done Dan and thanks for sharing your ideas with some pics.

    I don't have pics but will tell you this.  3 of us run around in a 4 wheeler side by side and what we found that works well for the detectors is a bicycle rack that slides into the back of a trailer hitch.  Most side by side ATV's now have a slide in on the back and the bike rack will easily go it.  Then we have spaces with rubber straps to hold 4 detectors that are not in contact with each other.  Sure they get a little dusty or wet if it rains, but we have not had any problems yet.

    Thanks again for sharing.

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  5. 1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

    Did this happen in any detail? If so, I missed it. :smile:

    It's coming, but I just play to hard on the weekends and when I get back in shop, my customers are #1.

    I promise it will happen in the next couple weeks.

    Heck the new EQ-1000 might be out by then and if so I could change my mind?  Or was that the Gold Monster 2000 or the GPZ-7500.  

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  6. 9 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

    My partner and I started our business in our senior year of high school.... I graduated in 1976. White’s was one of our first dealerships, along with Keene Engineering. If I am not showing my age it’s not due to clean living, so must be luck of the genetic draw! :laugh:

    The one thing I noticed about being great at running a business is "Enthusiasm".  Here is a fine example for everyone.  Go to a GPAA Gold Show and see the different vendors and booths selling the same stuff.  One will have a guy sitting in a chair reading a magazine with coffee and doughnuts.  No eye catching display of gold, no video running in the background of their adventures and success hunts, no proper communication with the folks walking by.  Next booth has a display of recovered gold nuggets with the product he sells, his laptop is running in the background showing some guy or gal digging their 1st nice gold nugget, he is interactive with the potential customers, has a big piece of gold there to hand to the ladies so they can feel the mass/weight of gold and has a Free drawing for a panning kit.

    I've seen it many times and just scratch my head at a few of the folks and wonder why they even showed up.

    For the 20+ yrs I've known you Steve, the words you speak around others just gets us all excited and wanting to go do it.

    Nike said it best "Just Do it":

     

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  7. 10 hours ago, 2Valen said:

    Gerry, HELP!

    Thanks Steve for the suggestion.

    You get out this way be sure to do it around one of the many training sessions we offer.  

    You get over to MT and I have a Field Staff Expert there as well.

    You get up to North Idaho, I have another Gold Detector Expert up there.

    You get to Arizona this winter, yes I have it covered too.

    We offer 1 day 1 on 1 and also the most popular is the 3 day group session as your memory retains much more.  Plus you witness a variety of detectors and see their strong/weak points.

     

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  8. 7 hours ago, Bash said:

    Sorry it took me a while to check this out.  Yes indeed it does!  Rare earth magnets stick strongly to it.  And one section of it appears almost melted.

    That should answer how much iron is in the rock.  The harder the pull, the more iron in it and the louder it will sound on a detector.

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  9. 19 hours ago, 2Valen said:

    You have some very lucky customers and thanks for sharing the pics with us as I can only dream about finding something like that around this part of the country.

    Most (not all) of my successful customers have purchased a few different gold detectors from me and been customers of mine for quite a few years.  As Steve mentioned, they also have taken the 3 day Field Training we offer.  Heck, there is a good % of guys on here who find gold and have taken our class.  I'll say "our class" as my Field Staff Experts have a big part of what makes our customers successful.

    Another good point, is they have the right detector for the task and they are out there bustin their heels, swinging their coils and digging more lead and trash that most.  Yes there is luck involved, but persistence is a big part of it too.

    Ill may not have nuggets, but you certainly have good old coins and some serious opportunities for the gold rings in the lakes.  As you know, it takes plenty of swinging to be good at those styles as well.

     

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  10. 7 hours ago, Glenn in CO said:

    My dad (who is now 96) was also shock to hear what happen to White's. He is in a wheelchair, has bad eyesight and a heart condition, but he keeps on plugging away. We reminisce quite a lot when I visit about nugget hunting, gold mining and detecting in general. He really misses detecting, but talking about our adventures in the past can brighten his day. Here is his first gold he found with a Eagle II with a Jimmy Sierra Goldfoot coil.

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    Running a high banker with dad.

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    Thanks again Gerry for sharing your memories!

    The Jimmy Sierra Gold Foot and even the Big Foot were some really good coils.

    Most importantly Glenn is the time you get to spend with your father and talking about the good old golden days, seeing the pics and thinking back of the happy times.  I sure miss life of the 70's and would take it back in a heartbeat.  Today's folks are in such a rush to get nowhere.  Most of us don't visit our family and or relatives enough (I'm at fault too) and we all want instant gratification.  I know how hard it takes to be successful at finding gold and so does your wife, your dad and you. Sure wish the rest of the world had that kind of patience.

    Anyway, Thanks for your story and memory pics.

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  11. 19 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

    Whites was my first detector in 1972 and my first detector dealership in 1976.

    How come you look so young Steve?  Heck, you became a dealer for White's in 1976?  I was just hitting puberty back then listening to "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" by Elton John and there was the other 2 John guys pretty.  One lived in Denver and the in UK.  

    Your pic of Steve Houston is the same face I remember and boy he too was a great detectorist and even nicer guy.

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  12. 46 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

    Steve Houston and I ran a prototype MXT at Ganes Creek of all places, but it was not until the next year that I figured out how good it was there. I sold a ton of MXTs off of what happened at Ganes Creek. Over 1000 ounces of gold found there with the MXT alone.

    Well I for one took home more than my share.

    Just think if we had another Ganes Creek to go to or even your dig at Moore Creek.  Boy those were some times.

    Remember the loud mouth Minelab guys back then (I won't mention names) and how they were going to go there to Ganes with them big PI's and show all us non educated VLF hunters how it's done?  Those times, emails, banter and all were some of the silliest and most disgusted gold hunters I have been around.  What is so bad about that, is I still to this day, get folks who think their big badass Minelab is the best at everything. 

    Bottom line, the best detector is the one you know inside and out...better be the one in your hand.  And make sure you know its strengths and weaknesses.  Weaknesses is where so many people fail, not knowing what they are missing.

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  13. 17 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

    God, I feel terrible now for speculating/opinionating on the why and how! :laugh: Seriously though, nice post Gerry! 👍🏼

    Got a tip for you though. Your detectors found nothing. The locations produced the finds, and you did the finding. You are the one making the machines look good, not the other way around. :smile:

    Steve,  No hard feelings my friend as we have had our PM conversations on this very subject.  Heck I felt like much of what was said on the other post started when I was in NV, was actual truth. But a bunch of the folks giving input have not been around White's but maybe 10/20 yrs.  Back in my early MD'ing days White's was the real deal and there was no Minelab.  Changing of the Guard is all.

    When I got home and had a discussion about it with my father (the same guy) in the early 1970's pic, he was shocked.  It wasn't madness at all as with his degrading health, he has not had a detector in his hands for 4 or 5 hrs.  He's on oxygen and in a wheelchair the last few yrs.  Anyway, that guy who taught me most everything to get going on my own back then, he lit right up like a Christmas tree and had a shitty grin on his face for a long time as his memories went back almost 50 yrs with detectors in our families hands.  My uncle, my dad, their dad (my grandpa) my cousins, me and even my little brother later on, we all had White's detectors and back then, felt they were the best.

    Still smiling ear to ear my dad recalled some of our hunts, his finds and many adventures.  He talked about the old horse race track and the 21 Seated silver we found in the late 1970's  (most of them were Halves and Quarters).  Dad was smiling and talking and I just sat there watching his face and body get more into it.  He told me about the 1st Civil War Relic hunt I took him on back in South Carolina in the later 80's.  He still remembers his US Breast Plate he dig under a house in downtown Charleston.  Heck I had only seen them in museums and or pictures in W & E Treasure magazine, then we are holding a fresh dug one in our hands.  My dad was full of joy during that visit this week and that is when it dawned on me.

    I have no hard feelings towards anyone for their comments as I don't think most of the 180 posts has the history my family and I do with White's metal detectors.  But for my family and I, so so many memories throughout almost 50 yrs and 40 of those it was White's or nothing.  Yes I started using other brands back in the 90's and even had great success the last 20 yrs with other brands, try to tell my dad otherwise, is like going to McDonald's and they are out of Big Mac's and try to sell you a fish burger.  It just don't happen like that.

    So again, it was my dad, his smiles, memories and joy he shared,  inspired me to write my comments/words.  To my family it almost felt like a funeral of a good friend.  Yes I argued, at times pulled teeth in frustration over some of the issues, and even cursed my good friend a few times, but blood is thicker than water and in my families eyes...he was a great man, a good camping companion and one hell of a treasure digging friend.  Nothing but respect from us and well deserved.

    We had hundreds of photos of our lives growing up with meta detectors, but a house fire in the early 80's took them all away from us.  All I have now are cuts from an 8MM reel my aunt gave me the pics in rough detail of my dad and some finds early 1970s, a picture of my grandpa sitting at the table getting ready to go, some pics of my dad and I on our CW hunt.

    Yes Steve, we just as well could have been using Fisher or Garret (Minelab was a dream) back then and probably would have had the same success or at least close to it, so I do agree with your last words.  Just don't try and tell my dad that, you could be eating a fish burger from McDonald's.

     

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  14. 23 hours ago, phrunt said:

    Just imagine if you were swinging the Equinox back then, or the 24k. 🙂

    My 1st few years of detecting gold was chasing all the little dinks as I did not realize big gold was still around.

    When I starting finding bigger gold in the early 2000's, it was the Fisher GB-2 with 14" coil and it was the king for a few yrs.  Then we realized the White's MXT with the 14kHz could go deeper on bigger gold and the Iron ID was more accurate than the GB-2.  So all of a sudden, many of us switch to the MXT and felt we were digging less big iron and more big gold.

    Even though I was a Minelab dealer back then, their VLF gold machines were clumsy, slow and not ideal for covering a lot of uneven ground and tailing piles.  Minelab was more into their PI gold machines and their Eureka Gold was not a favorite of mine.  Yes I used it and found some nice gold, but it was so much different than the US machines back then. 

    I have to give credit to the MXT as it truly was a well designed and quality built detector for its day and many people liked it, used it and found good size gold with it.

    Minelab really never had a good light weight decent Iron ID detector like the MXT until later on around 2006 or 2007 and then it took us a couple yrs to realize, it was also good at big gold and tailing piles.  Minelab (back then) just didn't have the grasp of us Americans and how picky we were and are. White's on the other hand was all about ergonomics, S rods and clean strong signals.

    Minelabs 1st decent detector to compete with the MXT was, anyone know?  The X-Terra 70.

    So as I said above and I know not everyone will agree, but I'll give credit where I feel do, to White's and their fabulous MXT for the majority of my bigger gold back then.  Again, I was a Minelab dealer, but I felt they didn't have their focus on that part of the market at the time.

     

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  15. Interesting story and glad to know the lost person was reunited with the nugget.

    I was in Oregon a few years back and found a black plastic film canister will 43 small nuggets in it.  I was tickled to death as there was about a 1/4 oz.  But part of me also realized that was someones hard earned gold.  Anyway, the next month came and I was at the local metal detecting club and I entered the find as my "Gold Find of the Month".  An old rusty loudmouth retired Navy Captain started giving notice to the entire group that the gold was his.  I knew he was familiar with the areas as when I trained him years before, we were there.  Anyway, we toustled a bit and after a couple free beers from him, I decided to hand them over.  After all, he knew approx where I found it and he was very close to the actual amount of nuggets.  He'd been up there a week and thinks he lost it the day before he went home as the last day he did not find any gold.  He did not even know it was lost until he got home to show his daughter.

    I actually lost one of Doc's little olive green rubber squeeze open nugget containers near Sawtooth, NV.  I had found 4 pieces at a new site and hiked a 1/4 mile to the top of the nearest hill so I could signal my buddies to come my way.  Anyway, they drive around the mountain and 20 minutes later, I am back down on the site to show them my gold.  What gold, it was gone.  Well a hike back to the top of the hill and 2 hours later I found the container.  Yes the nuggets were still in it.

    The sickness I got of losing 4 measly nuggets with my GPZ was nothing compared to misplacing a $50K rock of gold.  I don't know how or what I'd do if I lost that rock?

    So happy it was returned to the old chap and I bet he wanted to cry.

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  16. Your interest in gold comes at a superb time for so many people and I hope to see more of the gold videos.  The good thing is, there are many famous nuggets out there and certainly a few bigger ones too.  I expect you'll be doing this series for quite some time.  Thanks also for asking those important questions, as the feeling and emotions overcoming ones body and mind is an amazing feeling.  Wishing you luck on your future endeavors And and thanks for allowing us to see through your eyes and camera.

  17. 4 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

    Great tribute and photo album, Gerry.  I seem to recall something you told me when I took your class.  I don't want to repeat it and have it turn out to be inaccurate, but I'll see if I can set you up.  Here is my 'thought exercise':

    Take each of the detectors you've ever owned that found gold.  (If you no longer have all of the detectors or all the gold, NP, this is just a thought exercise.)  In front of each put all the pieces of gold that particular detector has found.  Weigh those piles.  Which detector has the heaviest associated pile?

     

    Even to this date, the MXT has produced the most pounds of gold for me.  Now if I keep swinging the NOX for the same amount of years, I think I might pass my MXT records, but when you find a 1 pounder with 3.5 oz gold and a 2 pounder with 10 oz of gold, that sure gets the MXT weight up there.  So far with the NOX my best is around a 7 oz'er with over 3 oz of gold.  I know a 1 pounder is on its way though..

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