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JCR, can't get the link to open, can you repost? Also do you need to load each individual update or does the most recent capture previous updates?

Are the headphones proprietary or will any Bluetooth headphones work?

Abenson what's your thoughts on the two for relic hunting? I actually have them both but haven't had any time to run the Manticore M8 yet. I'm a 100% relic hunter and so far with same size coils it's what I've expected in better sound and ergonomics with the D2 but maybe the M8 has its advantages??? The 9" coil is really nice but if they would come out with a 5x9 the m8 might be moot for me. Those narrow coils are great in thick woods.

Probably what I needed to hear at the end of the day. No real improvement other than ergonomics and water resistance. I run a custom battery and rod I both made along with a wireless setup. It's really quite manageable and I have several coils. Maybe an update to the Axiom or another PI contender is what I should wait for.

Now that the Axiom has been out awhile are there any relic hunters that can provide some feedback on how the Axiom compares to the GPX 4500/5000 on discrimination? I've scoured the internet and have found a couple of competing opinions but very little other than that. I've owned the GPX 4500 and now 5000 and for 2 years I didn't own a vlf machine and I was very successful at finding Civil War relics in pounded sites in my area. Once you get your ear "tuned" I dug very little iron. Also on the Axiom is the iron check a button you hold down or a mode you can leave it in for those high iron areas?

Get the Detech Ultimate 15, it's not even close in my opinion. The 15 x 12 was no deeper than the stock 11" and didn't ID iron as well either. The Ultimate 15 is heavy but it's super deep and IDs very well.

I have the Deus 2 and the Legend. Used to have the Deus 1 and Equinox 800. The Deus 2 is a fantastic machine but do yourself a favor and pick up the Legend. It's a fun machine and I recommend it to friends getting into the hobby. The performance for the money is unbeatable.

The 900 looks like it's out performing the Manticore in some of the newest videos online which I hope isn't the case since I have one on the way so I'm guessing it's a little better than the Legend. That being said the Legend is super fun machine and my backup to my Deus 2. If it was all I had I'd still be happy. Absolutely the best detector for the money in my opinion.

I posted this to another forum about my first hunt with the Legend today. Even with all the negativity surrounding the Legend I couldn't help but try it out along with the Deus II and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised. Out of the box its depth is comparable to my Equinox but its separation was lacking. I primarily hunt civil war relics in mild ground so lead and brass are my main targets so I ran both detectors over a bullet surrounded by square nails. The Equinox hit it in all modes and it wasn't until I switched to all-metal and lowered the 1st tone break to 7 that the Legend started unmasking like it should. So I took it out for quick hunt on my property that's seen the likes of F75, T2, Tarsacci, Deus 1 & 2, Equinox and GPX 4500 and 5000. Now we all know you can't find everything so I hate when people say a detector found something the others didn't which just isn't the case. Everything I found the Deus II or Equinox would have found but the speed and ease at how I was finding tiny lead and bullets was the surprising part. I primarily ran Field M2 All-Metal with the 7 tone break and would check signals with Prospecting in the Custom mode notching 1-10. I used the Equinox in the same manner. The Legend was extremely stable, I ran it wide open and it was quiet as a mouse. It falsed very little requiring me to spend less time investigating ghost signals and after awhile the prospecting mode was so effective I just stayed in it. Now there is no modern trash at this site, very little EMI but enough to bug my Deus II, and very mild soil. I'm also looking just for relics, not coin shooting, prospecting, or beach hunting but the same hunting everyone else around here does. The Legend is NO Deus II but its performance today and excellent ergonomics made it one of the most fun detectors I've used in a long time. If the updates keep coming this will be fantastic machine for people with my narrow area of detecting interest.

Really wishing I had another set of the Quest headphones but since they're sold out what's the word on the Gray Ghost version for the Deus II?

For clarification the Q20, Q40, and Quest Pro have been out a few years and the Q30 and Q60 other than profile and look are completely different re-enginnered detectors or so I've gathered on Quest groups. The naming system is confusing as the Q30 might be a better detector than the old Quest Pro and none may perform well in bad dirt thats yet to be seen. The interesting thing is if the Q30 and Q60 are like the Nox 600 and 800 or GPX 4500 and 5000 in that there's no difference in power. Then the Q30 at 14kHz field might be the ultimate value for Civil War relics. Think of a deeper, faster, waterproof, Bluetooth, T2.

Honestly if the Deus was waterproof and had a little more punch this discussion would be moot. Its still an awesome machine and I'll continue to use it a lot in certain places and when XP decides to release another detector and correct those oversights then I'll be first in line to get one.

I'd say if your happy with your current detector then the Q60 is probably not for you. I know a local guy thats won't upgrade from his old Whites DI Pro he's had for 30 years. Says he's confident in what it can find and happy with it and he's not wrong. I'm not saying the Q60 is an upgrade to the Equinox as I believe its best all around detector on the market. It has lots of features I like and I'm adept at using it and its found me a lot of relics. That being said I've never fallen in love it. I personally don't like the ergonomics of the fat grip and I despise the compressed VDI scale. Civilization has encroached onto local Civil War sites in my area with lots of modern trash and the signals are compressed in with the relics and with bouncy numbers I dig lots of trash. So the Q60 has less features, less polished, less stable, but has speed and depth like Equinox which is multifrequency so what makes it better. Well for ME I love the ergonomics of the handle and adjustability the whole detector offers. True I'm not crazy about the coil but it will accept aftermarket coils and all the major coil companies already make them for the existing Quest detectors so the Q30 and Q60 aren't far behind. I'd love to try a NEL Superfly or Tornado on the Q60. The detector also overloads on big iron and aluminum, a feature I love. If smaller trash doesn't overload then you at least have a 0-99 VDI scale to get better identification. The detector is also very good in iron. I'd say these features will probably appeal to more than a few relic hunters like me at least until Nokta Makro or XP comes out with something new otherwise I might just keep going like the local DI Pro guy.

Google's translation of the review. Very nice and precise audio Very good on medium / large targets on ground with little ferrous pollution Good on ferrous sector Manual multi-frequency 5, 14 and 20kHz Reliable and easy-to-use detector Robust and quality construction Water resistant to 5m Very practical telescopic rod Deteknics Wirefree Pro excellent wireless headphones Detector unwieldy with the 32X25 disc No small disc available as an option No user manual  1) GETTING STARTED / ADJUSTMENTS: Summer 2020, QUEST releases the Q60, the brand's first multifrequency. Please note, the Q60 is not a simultaneous multifrequency like the MINELAB Equinox or Vanquish, but a detector with manually switchable frequency like on a Deus. Small reminder, the interest of changing the frequency is to adapt the detector to what you are looking for: The higher in frequency (at 20khz for example) and the more the detector will be sensitive to small or even micro targets but it will go shallower on medium / large targets in depth. The lower the frequency (to 5khz for example), the more detection depth the detector will gain on large targets such as large coins, but at the cost of a loss in sensitivity on small targets even close to the surface. When opening the box of the Q60, no problem everything is tidy. There is the detector and the Deteknics wireless headset, but also a wireless reception module to which you can connect a headset of your choice. However, there is no user manual, just a quick start brochure. And I couldn't find the Q60 user manual on the internet. Fortunately the quick start brochure is detailed enough to be able to master the settings of the Q60 fairly quickly ... The detector battery is charged via a magnetic plug which sticks to the detector housing, it is well designed, even if it seems strongly inspired by MINELAB Equinox plugs. Side settings, there is a fairly classic ergonomics with 4 detection modes, namely PARK, FIELD, BEACH and GOLD. Ergonomics that can also be found on the Minelab Vanquish, Equinox and on the Nokta Simplex. In this test of the Q60, we will limit ourselves to the PARK and FIELD modes, the other 2 modes being reserved for beach prospectors and gold diggers. On the detection disc side, the Q60 is delivered with a large disc (32X25cm). It is definitely fashionable to deliver detectors with large discs, see the Vanquish 540 or the Nokta Simplex. However, this is not necessarily a good idea because in the field, these large discs are not very effective on ferrous sectors and moreover they are heavy. Concretely, the 32X25cm disc of the Q60 weighs 520g without disc protector. Not great knowing that for example the large 30X25cm V12 disc of the MINELAB Vanquish weighs 440g, and the V10 25X20cm only 360g. The complete Q60 detector weighs 1.4kg. Again it is not extraordinary, we should not expect exceptional handling with this detector. So it's time to go to testing. 2) 10C NAP3 DEPTH TEST AND 2g SMALL COINS ON TEST BENCH (EARTH BIN): The test is very simple and reliable, they are bins filled with packed earth under which a coin is placed. Just scan the disc above the bin to see if the detector is able to sense change. For each target, the soil thickness was chosen so as to push the detector to its limits. There is a first tank with a 10C Nap3 under 30cm of packed earth which makes it possible to evaluate the capacity of the detector / disc to locate a large coin in depth, knowing that at this depth we are at the limit of detection for a VLF detector , this whatever the brand. The other tray with a small bronze coin of 2g under 15cm of earth allows the detector / disc to be evaluated on a small change. There too we are at the detection limit for a VLF. 10C Nap3 test at 28cm: In PARK mode at 14kHz we get a slight signal. The signal is sharper at 5khz. So a good result which places the Q60 at the same level as an Equinox in depth on large coins, which is very good. Small change 2g to 15cm test: There too no problem, the target is well detected whether at 14 or 20kHz. So no bad surprise, the Q60 does the job on this depth test. That said, VLF detectors all use the same technology and there is currently no "miracle" detector whatever the brand, with equivalent disk size and frequency of course. Total test time: 3h This wood is one of my favorite test sites because it is highly loaded with ferrous material so it allows me to quickly assess the capabilities of a detector on ferrous; reactivity, ferrous filtering etc The soil is sandy and little mineralized. I know I'm setting the bar a bit high for the Q60 because large drives like the Q60's 32X25 are more designed for clean sectors. On the other hand, if the detector goes well here, I know that it will go everywhere else, which can do more can do less. Let's go with the Q60. I discovered the audio of QUEST, a brand that I had never had the opportunity to use before. From the outset, I'm comfortable with the sounds of the Q60, the audio is quite close to Tesoro and Teknetics T2, it filters iron very well and it's very precise on target. To tell the truth I did not expect such sound quality. The detector is therefore quite silent on the ferrous carpet, it is not bad at all given the large size of the disc. On the other hand, the use of a pinpointer is strongly recommended with this large disc because it is difficult to center the targets and a pinpointer will save a lot of time. Otherwise the Wirefree Pro wireless headphones are very comfortable, and there is no noticeable latency in the audio. Nothing to say on that side. The downside, as I expected, it is this 32X28 disc which is heavy and too large to pass well between the ferrous, I would have much preferred a smaller disc like the 28X22 Raptor delivered with the Q30, too bad. I'm not going to make any extraordinary finds during this outing, especially debris from the 14-18 war (shell casings, shell belts etc) for lack of luck. But the Q60 found new targets here, that's the main thing so good result ... As for the settings, I used the PARK mode, first in 14kHz, then in 20kHz to gain responsiveness. Change of location with a field located 2km from the previous location. This field was occupied by a field hospital during the war so it contains iron, but less than in the previous wood. Here the large disc of the Q60 goes better than in the wood and I take out a lot of targets including a French aluminum button 14-18 which is good because the exit was quite fast. As in wood, I will use my pinpointer a lot here. So no problem with the Q60 in this field, the detector is pleasant to use despite its somewhat bulky disc. As for the settings, I stayed in PARK mode at 14kHz, a frequency that goes everywhere offering good performance whatever the size of the target. No doubt, this Quest Q60 is a good detector. Excellent audio, responsive, flawless build quality, IP68 waterproof, great wireless headset, easy to use. So many positive points. But what an idea to offer such a large disk on this detector! We now expect from QUEST a smaller disc that would make the Q60 much more versatile and more suited to our European lands. For info the price of Quest Q60 is 599euros.

Very nice review palzynski! It's consistent with what I was told before I bought this machine. I'd really like to see NEL get their Superfly coil available for this detector quickly.