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There isnt a Gold detector that i know of if there was to be one it would be the best one in the world.  

The most advance detectors still cant tell gold from trash..

6 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Yeah, it’s basically heading that way, especially here in the U.S. If gold was still $300 an ounce we’d already be done. People who say they are doing it for fun and adventure, not the value, for some reason are not out looking for things of no value instead. They could be looking for copper nuggets but few seem interested in that for some reason, even though it is as challenging and has just as much fun and adventure as gold detecting. The price does matter, and ever increasing prices have kept this ship afloat. And if gold breaks above $US2000 an ounce I expect we will see another electronic gold rush as people detect for the last remaining dribs and drabs on patches pounded for decades. Yes, there are virgin patches out there, but it’s the rare true prospectors out spending the weeks or months of non-producing detecting needed to find them. Ultimately it is legal access to ground that is the limit, and if gold prices spike everything available will get claimed up to the hilt. Competition will be fierce again. We lose even if we win.

I feel like I missed the real heyday 20 years ago being busy running my business. But I am grateful I got to do what I did when I did near the end of it all, and see some virgin patches myself, and lots of large gold. The GPZ really did light things up, but now even the GPZ gold is getting sparse. I’m afraid I’m one of those spoiled old guys finding it hard to get motivated to go out and detect for a few grams. Beach detecting is more pleasant and with better viewing, and more what I’m inclined to do these days. 

Well i dont know if you have noticed it but everyone out here have noticed the sun is hotter then ever. Being out in the sun isnt as pleasant. 

For now i feel better being by the water looking for gold in the shade and atleast i see the color of gold everyday. 

At the end thats what really matter because everyone says gold mining is an adventure or hobby. But when you get to find a steady income you cut that down to a very low percentage. 

People could find metal detecting a decent size nugget or patch but finding another is pretty tough for the same reason you stated. 

One person might be lucky but the odds of others be veryyy low.  

Couldnt it come to a day where detectors just die out.  ?? Where you would get a PI for a price of a vlf and you might not want it. ?? 

The miles one cover with those things is amazing.  Sooner or later people must start to run out of places to detect.  

All i see is people returning to the same patches finding bits of gold. . nothing new. 

Is amazing when the scriptures Relates in the hearts of one person.. 

This is that love that could make the world another place. 

Well done mate !

2 hours ago, Reg Wilson said:

Every detector I have ever used has been able to be fooled by ground noises, or should I say that the detector user is able to be fooled.

When using a detector with auto ground tracking many people swear by using the manual ground balance function, believing that very faint signals are more audible in this setting. A 'suspect' signal will not alter under the coil when it is swept back and forth over the target in manual setting, however by switching into auto and sweeping the target repeatedly the response may lessen to the extent of becoming very faint or completely inaudible. This is the detector ground balancing out the section of mineralized ground. If you move a couple of meters away from the suspected target, re ground balance, and then sweep back over said target you will find that the signal has returned. 

Now, some detector operators will adamantly claim that the detector has balanced out a faint gold signal when used in auto, but having dug an untold number of 'suspect' signals to try and prove that my detector is fooling me, I have not been able to do so. I have found that when using GPX detectors that the number of sweeps in auto required to give a good analysis of the target is about six, where as the number is about double that when using the GPZ. I do not claim that this method is infallible, and no doubt many will disagree with me, but for me it has worked well. One thing that is imperative is that the detector coil sweep should be steady and at a constant height.

The QED method is most effective, but occasional patches of charcoal can fool any detector, and for some reason tree roots can confuse GPZ detectors.

Well i have always thought just finding a whole bunch of iron targets was a enough for me.  But digging tree roots and charcoal in the ground is on another level. As well also those ghost signals where you dont find no tree root or charcoal.  

Here in DR there is gold but we have to dig to get it out.  It isnt laying around for most part. There is a lot shallow ground but is like the rain has washed off and deposited in benches and in the creeks.  

I have been to places where there is shallow gold but there are veryy few places like this. Finding one out here raw prospecting would have someone die of hunger.  

Right now im inbetween building a motorized winch which i would use in our dredging operation in the river and probably some surface mining openning cuts with a scape bucket to the virgen gravels. This is when i could see myself using a Metal detector. But walking like a crazy guy up and down acres of land without knowing im walking right over the gold.  

Lucky those who are in those geological condition. 

Thanks Reg. Its this with all detectors ? Or just the QED. ? 

I have gotten ground noise with the others VLF machines i have had but normally there would be a black patch while digging which is pretty obvious and the signal disappears. 

I have that same coil and here i have ran it in some areas with mode one and gain of 8-10. But with a GB of around 280.  

Which lowers the sensitivity. 

I did get to run well.  In some area but that Ghost signals did get me frustrated because i wouldnt mind finding junk but finding nothing is worst then finding iron.  I dug about 4 ghost signales in one area. 

This was in a more remote area in the mountains . not sure if is because of the mineralizion in the clay.  

But overall i did get a feel of undertanding it..

1 hour ago, phrunt said:

Every metal detector likes iron more than gold 🙂 The new upgrade greatly improved it's ability to handle variable ground and made it easier to ground balance.  I recommend you get the update done, it is free.    People have said they can run lower modes / high sensitivity (mode 1 being the most sensitive) on the new firmware over the older firmware while maintaining ground balance. I was always able to in my mild soils so I didn't notice this improvement.

Goldman has done some pretty good videos lately on using the QED, you would likely benefit from watching them

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu4yiQk1UUilnMfGFqfaxfg

It has a learning curve if your other detector is something like a Gold Monster that's for sure.  I think if you get the update done you'll find it easier to use due to the better ground handling which may explain your ghost signals.

You'll see in particular with this video if setup incorrectly for what you're hunting you can dramatically lose depth on the target size.

 

i just watched the video.. and you see how the detector  is behaving at the end of the video  thats just how mines will act when i have it in Max sensativity. but its too noisy to actually detect that way specially in a hot ground. meaning you have to go up null or go up mode whice is even worst.

when you get it totally quite or quite enough you could tell ground signal from Target Or ghost signals it will be way less sensitive.

Thanks Phrunt and Reg for ya advice.

i was faced with finding lots of iron so took a trip  to a more remote area that gold have been found and Then i end up getting lots of Ghost signals instead of iron.

well i guess when everything Returns back to normal that i might be able to ship it back to AU to get it updated and probably fixed right.

i understand  alot of people have open country where they drive in and detect and their detectors looks forever NEW. in my case i have to take long hikes then metal detect in heavy bushes worrying about anything getting caught up and trying to break.

i was thinking of when i get it fix of removing the menu box from the shaft handle and placing it inside of another compartment just for more protection.Using NO Stand or Speaker holder since its made of the same matterial that is veryy brittle and if you drop it it will crack instead of Bending ..

i know the company started working with what they had but i hope they construct it more rugged for those who do more hardcore detecting.

What is new about the updates ? 

I recieved mines PL2 just before the newer updates. I bought mines with 2 coils and what i could say about the QED is i got to learn it and find lots of trash no gold. The qed is very sensitive but if you move up in modes you will lose a lot of it.  I have also dug ground signals more then i have with my GM not sure why.  I have tried GB and everything sounds like a target to it disappears to who knows where. Recheck , recheck nothing. 

The metal detector is veryyy fragile. Meaning you wouldnt want to drop it or lift it through the control box because it will crack. 

I contacted the seller and i was sent a replacement for all broken pieces but i havent recieved nothing since this Plandemia Has hit.  

I also have had a problem with trying to tune it to fine gold. . i have gotten it sometimes working to i leave everything the same and when i recheck the coil with a the test nugget it wont see it even being rubbed on the coil. This is a .2g nugget.  

I once also tested it with a 2 Gram nugget and i have only been able to pick it up at about 8 inches deep give or take... 

I did get to find lots of metal and i was even coming to think it loved to signal more on iron then gold.  

I wouldnt say i would had found every metal object with the GM but it sure would had made life more simple and straight forward to find gold and Reject all the trash and pick up the gold.  

So at the end of the day. I would ask myself for a inch or two of diffence would it be a good trade over discrimination?

I believe metal detecting is something you want to do what your closest to being that beach , parks or mountains for nugget hunting. 

Nugget hunting is veryy tough if you dont know exactlly where to be looking.. 

I just find nugget hunting very difficult just cause of the fact how large and shallow the gold needs to be. Where you might be walking over the gold in a lots occasion. 

The size of gold and geology helps some prospectors around the world while the chances of others being veryy low..  

A addictive person in gold need gold to calm his addiction... 

Metal detecting might not be easiest way to calm that.. but it sure would be fun to come up with a patch of gold no one know of  

Saving up gold from now on seems a good thing.. 

Hii goldhound.. i have been amazed by your videos.  Wish you could make some new ones without being noticed where you might be making them from.. 

17 minutes ago, MannyScoot said:

I thought that was a screwdriver ......

A flatheaded one loll 

7 hours ago, WesD said:

This aint a pick, but how about that "prybar" in the lower right. 

Those are made of wood and most likely used to flip rocks.. very useful.  

Is this a hybrid of a shovel and a pick ?

Looks like they welded the front end of a shovel to the pick ..

I have been playing with GPS essentials APP and it does a lot for me .. saves downloaded maps.. tracks. Marks waypoint with images.. 

And the best is free if you alreadys have a phone .. 

49 minutes ago, flakmagnet said:

haha Fred, we all have our definitions I guess. For me, someone following me in order to take advantage of the research and footwork I have done, is a rip-off. I get it about not going public, but even you might agree that those Goldhound videos were some of the best ever done of what is our hobby and their living.

Hope you are doing well...

Thats a for sure thing .. with theories that played out in the field with the gold finds.

1 hour ago, flakmagnet said:

I think you misread the post: I said people were trying to follow them and find where they were detecting (which is a ripoff, no?)

Yeah.. they was getting good gold eventually someone would had wanted to track them down.

This is a reason no one really want to be uploading videos. 

Wonder how could they scam others .. the channel goes as GoldHoundNuggetRecovery. 

The videos for sure was educational and entertaining.. 

I have seen a couple guys head to the mountains in austrailia and was finding gold on youtube .. but it been like 4 years since they post.. 

Ill try where the river have gave good gold and try up in the hills.. if known gold have been present then the hills might have gold also i guess.. 

Most montain terrain have shallow bedrock or a false bedrock or clay pipe .. well in most gold bearing areas around here.. 

One good thing to beat the skunk if you dont find nothing in the hills .. expose bedrock in the rivers might be overlooked by the oldtimers .

I onced had a coil that was working just like that but it had a water leakage and when it dried up it worked back to normal .. but he must of tried other coils since he has a GPX also i guess .. 

We here dont have that problem... But is always good to be showed around with a local which you give them a percentage of the finds.  .

Thats how things work around here.  .

But other then that you dont find yourself getting into any problem like that here. Well from my experience specially metal detecting.