57buick

maybe its just because of the heavy trash. I cant swing it without getting signals of some kind everywhere I go. Just seems weird that no matter what coin I pickup it never stands out from the trash. Always an iffy signal, half the time there is a coin there and half the time there is not. I will keep trying though hopefully something will click

Finally got my Nox 800 and have spent 2 days in the local parks trying to learn it. I'm getting frustrated because it seems like there is not much of any tell tale between iron trash and a coin. Occasionally Ill get that sweet 31 or 32 for a quarter but otherwise it seems like it is chirping constantly and when I do dig a weak 12 or 14 its a dime, nickel, or penny only 3 or 4 inches deep. First of all it seems like a coin that shallow should jump out more in the tones but its always a weak signal that I just have to decide to dig or not. What am I missing?

Secondly, 3 different parks and the thing seems like it is chirping constantly, I cant distinguish a good from a bad signal. Im running park 1 and park 2 doing the noise cancel.

Oh and they have a lifetime guarantee on most of their products

https://radiusgarden.com/collections/digging-tools/products/root-slayer-trowel?variant=8106301685849

Im using on of these from Radius Garden and Love it. they also have a slimmer designed one I havnt tried yet. But tip is V cut and sharpened a bit to cut thru roots and the edges cut out a plug like nobodys business. And it only cost $13.99 way better than my garrett digging tool

yep thats the one. $30 on Amazon

As far as belts I have tried about 10 different styles of belts and then I tried this wide padded tool belt from Dewalt and I can't even tell Im wearing it its so comfortable and will accept any holsters and things I wanna put on it.

And BONUS the trowel doubles as a bottle opener LOL

Been using this shovel by Radius Garden called the Root Slayer and it is amazing. sharp V cut tip to cut through roots and the serrated edges it quickly digs perfect large plugs where ever I can use a full size shovel. i also love the round handle it is big and easy to grip and comfortable.

Radius Garden just release this matching hand trowel that I just got this week and it has been equally great.

I found the best shovel from a company called Radius Garden the shovel is called the root slayer. It is amazing how it cuts thru roots and everything that gets in its way. and the round handle is so comfortable. And has shown itself to be super strong, I pry up rocks and things with it no problem. And easily cuts a nice plug even with small roots in the hole

I bought a 24,000mah external power pack that I put in my Deus case. It has 4 ports so it charges all the different devices the detector and headphones at same time while in the case.

When I'm done hunting for the day I drop everything in the case and plug it all into it. It charges everything 4 or 5 times before I need to pull it out and charge it

info on the bipod legs? did you make that or order it somewhere?

I paid a couple weeks ago $850 for the Equinox 800. Always a better deal calling directly cuz they cant advertise lower price on their website. That said I''ll get it soon enough by the end of February. Still got my DEUS which is still an awesome machine. Everybody is getting too worked up lol 

It's a highly sought after machine, I expected there to be delays. It's perfectly normal with a new product making enough for initial demand

13 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

My wonder is why he's using a large coil in a trashy site.  IMO, there are two advantages of large coils:  A) they cover more ground for a fixed time allotment; B) they go deeper for most targets (not tiny ones), but that depth gain isn't at all linear in coil size.  A big disadvantage is that their size 'sees' more targets causing target confusion when the metal matrix is tightly spaced -- that is in trashy ground.  And that effect is non-linear in the wrong direction, meaning (in simple thought) it is proportional to area of coil, not just the long (or short) dimension.  To put it all together, a large coil doesn't give you the coverage/time improvement in trashy ground because you need to work slowly there.  And it adds to target confusion.  So the depth gain is about all that's left, but depth doesn't help if you can't pull the deep signal out of the (trashy) noise.  What am I missing?

As far as the coil size. In my opinion anyway. The Deus is so much faster response than any other detector I've used that it is still as good or better than say an AT Pro or a CTX3030 at separating trash. That's why the Deus is so amazing.

I would totally agree with you on most other detectors. I havnt used the 13" coil on the Deus but on the 11" that is what I have found.

Funny what he is calling iffy signals some sound like great deep signals to me lol I would have dug it

well fact is theres no telling how old. I recently got to go detect in cow pasture that it turns out used to have 3 different homesteads on it the 1800's in different spots around the field. You would never know driving down the road looking at this field.

This site i've been talking about I don't really know the history but I know the area has been farmed for well over 100 years. But I don't know for sure if it was a school here or a homestead. I just know the area has been used

10 minutes ago, Ridge Runner said:

In most old school I never found much because the kids and their family didn’t have any money. There was nothing at the school for them to buy in the way of food and back then all had their lunch from home.

Why do all that work cutting the grass when winter is on us and it will knock the grass down. It takes a lazy man to find a better way.

Chuck

First I disagree with finding nothing at schools. Some of my best finds have been at old schools. Silver dimes and silver war nickels etc... Found a few rings at schools too. Usually just silver or copper but still. I'm not searching for gold at schools lol Second metal detecting is as much about the history to me than finding valuables per say.

I'm not going to go and cut their grass for them, that would be too much work for little gain. But any old site has potential for history. Old wire rim glasses, buckles etc excite me just as much as the silver dimes. Its all about the history

2 hours ago, Goldpick said:

Have you hit the ploughed field at all to see whether any finds have been distributed away from the actual house/homestead site?  Last old house site I detected with ridiculously high grass, I just dropped the reactivity right back, and managed to pick out some coins despite not being able to get coil right to the ground surface.  After a while just walking around the site, it was enough to both see where I had previously detected (gridding), and also helped with the actual detecting itself - almost needed to retrace my steps the second time around once the grass was pushed flat.  Lastly I utilised the 13x11" Deus coil which has a bit more weight to it, and made it a bit easier to get closer to the ground, though made it rather tiring to swing from side to side.  

Usually I don't tend to make it a habit of detecting high grass, espeically in summer with snakes being a real risk.

I havnt hit the field yet but I am planning too when the weather allows. I don't have the big coil but yea with any coil its a real chore swinging a coil against grass lol wears you out quick.

I did manage to pick out some trash and modern clad coins so far in the grass. The rainy season just started so I have to wait for good weather again

It looks like from this last picture you posted Steve that the grip and screen will slide and adjust on the shaft. Which means you could easily adapt this to any similar diameter shaft like the Gold Monster does. Interesting, people will be modding these as soon as they get em lol

I am pre ordering one myself. Can't wait to try it out

Old meaning. The current building is from I'm guessing the 50's or 60's but considering its on the edge of plowed field i think there was probably a homestead before that from judging the location.

I have found a few 50's to 80's clad coins so far just poking around in the grass as best I can. There is no way I would be able to take a mower in there myself. The grass is too thick to actually swing the coil closer than 4 or 5 inches from the ground though. 

I'm perfectly aware I could just go somewhere else LOL thats not the point, this site has been intriguing me for a long time because of its location. Im gonna keep working it because nobody else ever has

So Im open to any suggestions using my XP deus. There is a very old site that used to be a school but now is an old church. Not being used much but the grass always seems to be pushed over as opposed to cut and bagged. So been hard to get my coil to the ground. There is an old wooden baseball diamond back stop thats falling down etc. Whole diamond is tall grass just being mowed over on its side. Don't know why they don't actually get a real mower in there and cut and bag it.

I wonder if I should try non motion mode and just keep poking at the ground best I can? Has anybody ever used non motion modes? I havn't tried it yet but thinking of going back and trying that.

Last weekend we had the opportunity to detect several acres of farm land on private property where the owner pointed out the spots were his family had 3 different homesteads. I was thinking that was probably the perfect place to have used a 13" coil. But then again even though there was hundreds of cows there was also hundreds of square nails and such lol

Im not sure but I'm thinking the larger coil would have just made it harder to sift thru the trash in the ground so maybe I was better off with the smaller 9"

2 hours ago, rallymaker said:

Wrong big time ,,if you use the HF coil as your primary coil ,your finds rate will drop,, HF coils are sensitive to very small surface and shallow  targets ,Im in the UK i compared a nine inch HF coil with the nine inch stock coil , ie, 40 hours out in the field ,, with my detecting colleague ,,,and my findings were,, there was nothing that I found using the nine inch HF that a nine inch standard coil would not find .

13 inch X 11 coil is heavy and you will need an after market block to centralise the coil to the shaft, which makes it even heavier ,if you measure the curcumferance of the  13 x 11 using the ellipse  formula theres not much differece to the 11 inch round coil..

Interesting info, thanks for that

Thanks, I will keep this stuff in mind when I go try out my new Monster

I just ordered the Gold Monster from my local dealer $749 shipped.

Most any reputable dealer will give you better than the advertised price when you call them directly. Especially when you've bought plenty of stuff from them before.