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The man to talk to is Gerry. He is a Idaho dealer and teaches as well. Good guy to boot.

Way to guinea pig for us Steve?

On 2/4/2018 at 3:03 AM, Bada Bing said:

I'd answer mate but I'm not an average prospector .........

I've had it the 7 from day one. It is not a 4000 or 5000. Don't expect it to behave like it. It's loud and constantly talking to you. It's like being married for a long time. You need to hear the important stuff through the noise and that takes time and practice (and therapy for some)....

It is better now on salty ground with the new updates to the software. I still have my 5000 and use it on really salty ground (think really salty ground here in WA)

All the blokes swearing by the 5000 have not seen what it can do up close an personal. It's deadly on little stuff and deep stuff. The clencher for me was seeing a mate with his 7000 in laterite ground punch nearly 2.5 foot for a 1.5 grammer. The other mate had his 5000 and heard it half way down the hole. Tears were involved.

I can hear a nugget coming from a greater distance (if you know what I mean), the ZVT seems to extrude out from the coil in all directions much further than the classic PI machines therefore I feel I cover more ground (contentious).

Tip - start with factory settings. Don't get funky too quick, otherwise you will want to wrap it around a tree. Smash out a fair bit with factory settings. You will dig ground noise in the beginning, we all do, suck it up. Next, get your head around normal mode (basically flat out) and difficult mode. Always try normal mode first, decrease sensitivity all the way to 2 or 1 before you move to difficult mode. Normal is a beast (ground dependent of course).

As northeast says above - read JP and Steve

The 5000 was the best until the 7000 came along.  That's pretty much it from my point of view.

Cheers

BB

 

 

Very good post. It answered some of my questions. Thx

18 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

The easiest way to determine going values for used stuff are the eBay Sold Listings

Thanks Steve. I should use that when clean out my garage this summer.

Good thread. I also had a nug not register for me. Phase helped me do a dime check against his. 

Not detour the main topic. I think a good question might also come from this thread. What would be a fair, and good deal price for a used gpz 7000 in us money lol?

Thanks guys

Can the old gpz 7000 be update to have these new settings?

8 hours ago, Cal_Cobra said:

I'm thinking about going to Rye Patch in the fall.  There's a big detecting rally there each year in the fall, it's free and from what I've heard it's a great event.  Probably a good way to break the ice there for me. 

Found the link to it for this years Rye Patch Nugget Shoot Out:

http://renoprospectinganddetecting.com/rye-patch-nugget-shoot/

Interestingly I've been all over Nevada, but I've heard that Rye Patch in particular is really tough on tires. I've heard countless stories of multiple flats on one vehicle on one trip.  What's up with that? 

 

Yes there is. It will be in September this year. It is my gold club that puts it on each year. It is totally free to attended. We also have a guy that goes out there and cook tri tp sandwiches. You have to buy those unless your his detecting partner like me. ? got to love those perks. 

Must have looked at the year stamp wrong. Still stands that you have all the toys. 

I like the look of that coil just seems to big. I guess it is because I like dry stream hunting.

Good thread, I got the answers I have been looking for in a monster vs 800 show down. I myself am not sold on the monster. I guess I got spoiled with my gold racer. However I could see losing the racer 2 for a 800 and having my cake and eatting it too.

On 4/3/2018 at 7:49 AM, Steve Herschbach said:

I have one. I would only use mine in relatively flat or rolling terrain, with wide open spaces. I think for me at least the chances of extra depth are minimal compared to just having better ground coverage. It’s an expensive coil, so you have to be doing lots of detecting to make it worthwhile as a secondary coil. There are a few people who use it as their primary coil, but frankly it’s just too much weight for me to be my full time coil. The main problem though is I hunt sagebrush country and so the large size is not practical for the spaces I hunt most of the time.

Steve is there a toy you don't have lol. That thing just got released.

Hard and fast gets you to the next spot lol lol

What is the weight of the smallest one in grains? Just trying to get a gauge.

So I plan to go out with the GP 3500 this weekend, wondering if anyone had some good settings for small shallow gold in the northern nv type soil?

Perhaps Steve lol

Take what I provide for what it is worth.

I have two buddies that I detect with, one runs a SDC2300 the other has the gold bug2. I have the gold racer and now a monster.

We have been hunting two washes with little over burden, but lots of cracks.

The gold bug has picked up flakes yes. The SDC2300 also picks up near flake gold in some cases. My racer has picked up near the same stuff. Now in all the time we have been working these washes, not once have they found something I missed on the same trip ( ground changes each trip, so more is found). This being said I bought a monster last  month and found a .05 grain speck of gold I a shallow crack. The Sdc2300 hit on it but passed it by not knowing if it was gold or ground. That is one small piece of gold people.

My last outing to the same area was right after it rained, there was still pools of water in the wash. Steve can a test that water and our desert don't mix for  metal detecting. It makes a clay that sounds like gold and makes the vlf hate life. But the monster found a 1.1 grain piece in a crack with water and mixed up in clay.

So I guess what I am saying is any one of these three units will suit your needs just fine.

21 hours ago, schiara said:

I would highly recommend Doc’s Gold Screamer Power Pack, Li-Ion Battery System for Minelab PI’s, Although they are pricey, its worth it.

https://www.robsdetectors.com/docs-gold-screamer-power-pack/

I will give this a look over. Thank you for the advise.

I think the 14 x 9 and the Sadie are going to be  my coils that I use the most.

Thanks for the info gents.

I rock Rays like Steve.

I like the sounds of that. One of my bigger hesitations is the small size gold. Granted I have a monster and a gold razor. but I don't want to have to tote more than one at one time.

I have not had the luck to run my coil over a large one yet. But I know that if I do I will dig it up. This comes from finding lots of grain size bits. Thanks for joining this thread.

As the title says. I would like to discuss the current status 3500 brings compared to its digital Brothers 4000,4500, 4800, 5000.

I am sure that we all enjoy and appreciate the older Tech, but does it have an equal footing against the new generation. Simply put can it hold its own against a 4500 or 5000. I don't except it to equal to say the 5000, does it give said units a run for there money, as the saying goes.

I think we all pretty much know that the newest Gadget or Gizmo doesn't always equate to True massive Performance differences in the field. Example being the 4500 against the 5000. The differences are so minimal in true real world Performance that one could easily justify not going to a 5000. This is the type meaning I am asking.

Such as fine gold, how low can it go lol.

Deep gold, how deep and how big does it need to pick it up at that depth.

We have a lot of great swingers on this forum, always willing to discuss these conversations. Perhaps this might help others in the long run.

Things to consider 3500 has been discontinued. But so was the 4500 to a certain extent at a certain point in time, no longer the case of course.

Did the 3500 excel at a certain thing? Kind of like the gold bug analog unit that finds specks of gold. There by still relevant in today's Tech.

I woke up to 8inches, my mining partner my not go this weekend grrrrr.

Steve do you detect most every day?