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This is what I had set up.

Could be. I’ve sure been thinking a lot about it.🤔 I think what EL NINO77 said about the nine inch coil makes sense. The larger coils have space between the center bar and the outside of the coil that the smaller coils don’t have. That’s the difference I can see. The nail would be in between the outer and center bar of the coil verses the outer part of the coil directly over the nail when the center passes over the dime. Perhaps that’s why the larger coils could see the dime and the smaller ones couldn’t. Who knows?

I’ve got a deus1 and an equinox so I thought I’d play around and mimic the 3-D dime/Rusty nail test. I’ll say that’s a very interesting test to say the least. I used the X-35 9” & X-35 11x13” on the deus and the 6”, 5X10”, 11” and the 15” on the equinox. I tried bunches of different settings on both machines with all the different coils. What I found out was there’s a reason you do multiple directions when searching a location. My deus1 did hit the dime but the vdi numbers were from 04’s to 06’s in that area I couldn’t get a proper vdi no matter what I tried. The 9” coil on 25 kHz was the best. The 13” coil didn’t do as good but still hit it some. The equinox was able to hit the target and give a decent vdi (20-21) solid and repeatable. You would hear the high tone and then zero in on it. Here’s the surprising part or it was to me the 6” and the 5x10” would not hit the dime but the 11” and the 15” would. Both had the same vdi numbers that I stated above. The 11” had a slight edge when it came to zeroing in on the coin. I need to say getting a good four way hit with either machine was near impossible although there were enough good sounds going around the target to make you want to dig it. Today I went to an old park in town that has given up a lot of civil war relics and old coins. I started with the deus1 and 9” coil. I went to the toughest part and all I’ll say is modern trash mixed with iron is tough. I was hoping to find a target that had the very low vdi numbers and the iron tone beside it. That didn’t happen but I did dig a few targets that were mixed in with the junk but hunting in that type of ground conditions was very over whelming. I’m not sure how many sounds were on each swing but rat a tat tat tat rat a tat was what I listened to for that hour.🤪 I got the equinox out and hunted with the 5x10” for the remainder of the time I was there. (about another hour) I played mostly with the iron bias settings running it on zero and then adjusting it to see how it changed the sound. My conclusion today was that if I couldn’t tell for sure there were two targets there it was a false signal coming off the end of usually a rusty nail. In other words a good tone with no separation from the iron tone every target I dug today was iron. There had to be a separation for there to be two targets. I’m not sure how many targets I’d have to dig to maybe find a good target with the iron and good signal right together but I’m too old to dig that many holes and find out. lol Today was mostly just playing around and trying to possibly learn something. Anyways thanks for reading, good luck and HH! Tom

CPT_Ghostlight, It’s the angle of the hand grip not the weight that bothers my wrist. The legend appears (I don’t have one yet) to be more like the deus hand grip which even with the large coil doesn’t bother my wrist. I’ll find out hopefully this week. I love my equinox but I don’t like the hand grip and never have. Not comfortable…at least for me.🙂 HH!! Tom

You know brys, that’s a big thing to me. I love hunting with my equinox but the ergonomics of the handle actually cause my wrist to start hurting after a few hours of hunting. I can hunt with my deus with the 13” coil all day and it doesn’t bother my wrist. Granted I’m 65 so it may not be a big deal to you younger fellas but it is to me. lol I’m getting a legend and the ergonomics is a big part of it. Hopefully it’ll perform as good as the equinox. The added features like the ferro check which reminds me of the horseshoe on my deus plus the amount of programs I can save. I’m having to change my user profile on my equinox enough that it’s gonna be nice not to have to on the Legend. Just a few thoughts. HH! Tom

I’ve dug a roll of dimes before. All 50 of them. lol Honestly I don’t even remember what machine I was using. Could have been the etrac or maybe an f-19…??? I do remember it hit good and I knew it was a larger target. It was quite a surprise. The newest was a 1992. No paper left and no silver. I kept them for a while until one day I just threw them in with the clad. Ya just never know what you’re gonna dig up😄 love this hobby!

Nice month Dan!

Awesome hunt! Congrats on the gold coin!

Wow! That was pretty impressive.

Have fun Cal_Cobra! Not a beach hunter but hopefully we’ll have ours over some coins and relics here before too long. HH! Tom

F350Platinum, Sorry for the delayed reply. I tested mine out and they are awesome! I actually like them better than the stock headphones. Seem more comfortable and the on/off button is much easier to locate while you’re wearing them. I used a dime to test them. First used my stock headphones and wiggled that dime about as fast as I can then did the same thing with the new ones. I must say I was surprised I couldn’t tell any difference in the speed. They sound very good as well. I am retiring my stock headphones for a while to see if they will in fact turn out to be my backup pair. I also played with the noise cancel switch and I think I’m gonna like it to. There are times I think it will come in very handy. Thanks for the heads up about these headphones! HH Tom!

I saw this and wondered if they’re talking smf or just several single frequencies. Anyone heard anything?

I got this from their Facebook page. Seems they do listen. Notice the second pic about being human and making mistakes. It appears they underestimated the importance of being able to adjust the iron bias to users and have quickly realized that and are taking appropriate action. Good for them and good for us.

Abenson, Thanks for sharing the video. Man you’ve got some pretty tough ground to hunt. I feel very fortunate with my soil here and I know watching depths that some guys get in their soil should be elated with their ground. I reckon there’s a whole lot more to do with the ground conditions where you hunt and how different machines operate in those conditions than people realize. Maybe some of these videos will open up some eyes that it’s really hard to proclaim one detector as the best for everyone machine. I think videos like this one and others will help people to find out what machine would probably be the one to get for where they hunt. Thanks again and HH! Tom

Oh, yep you’re probably right. Hadn’t thought about that. Thanks!

Just a question for the guys who have used the legend and the deus. I have a deus and was wondering how the recovery/reactivity compared?

Nice hunt Dan!

NCtoad, I love your description of the “savory sounds” of big silver😃 I like swinging the coil a bunch over that “savory sound” myself. 😁 One of my hunting buddies said to me once quite swinging over it and let’s dig it. lol Congrats on the big silvers! Awesome hunt! Tom

Abenson, Thank you for the reply. Agree 100% no need for anything else. I look forward to your findings on the continued testing of the D2. Thanks! Tom

Abenson, Thanks for the informative video. Just a few questions. Were you using the D2 when you found the deep bullets? The reason I asked is I felt like you had an idea that’s what the target might be and the D2 wasn’t really giving that information from what I could hear. That appears to be the 11” coil, is that correct? You did well on removing the dirt and not disturbing the bullet which really reveals the actual depth. A 58 cal. bullet should be one of the easier ones to find at depth. So, how would you say this compares to your other machines that you use in this area. Thanks! Tom

I’ve never done that before. I guess it’s pretty self explanatory. Thanks for the advice. I’ll see if I can do that.

Congrats on a two seated dimes day! That’s awesome!

Galena is about twenty miles west of here. The field we were looking in had a house there on an 1876 map. The owner said it was moved in the fifties. I’ve been getting permissions from the land owner’s of houses on the old map that are gone. Sometimes it takes a little while to find where the house was. Those old maps aren’t the most accurate. lol The first spot today we didn’t locate the home site but this one the landowner knew where the house was located.

Went to an old house site this morning only one coin but it was a keeper 1868 Indian. I have a hole in the book that it’ll fill nicely. Token of some kind pocket knife and a few other relics. Thanks for looking.

Congrats on a good weekend! Hope more to come.