Gold Catcher

13 hours ago, jrbeatty said:

Best deep gold setting used (found by testing on undisturbed gold in situ) Xtra Deep/normal/full gain/very low threshold/smoothing off.

Very interesting, JR. I have not tried  "Bogene's type" settings with Xtra Deep. What volume setting did you use (not threshold volume)? Does that really eliminate most small surface targets? 

Thanks, and awesome finds!

GC

Conventional PIs receive in off time, the GPZ does'nt. Conventional PIs transmit with voltage, the GPZ does'nt. To me this is a very different duck. 😁 But hey, it really does'nt matter how you call it and we are probably all right, nobody is wrong. Let's just call it an awesome machine, and with a modern design and some tweaks this should be the next king (in it's own kingdom). 👍

GC

On 5/31/2022 at 9:02 PM, Lunk said:

GC, just wondering if you tried the 6k with the DD coil in that environment? I had great success running the older GPX machines with a DD coil in cancel mode (just like the 6k DD in EMI cancel) in the volcanics of the El Paso Mountains. The conductive ground cancel may work as well.  
 

Hey Lunk, finally tried the 6k/14DD in hot rock infested grounds (volcanic tuff). It is indeed an improvement over the 11 inch coil, however, not as much as I thought (perhaps 10% better overall). However, after some experimentation I found that the 7000 in general/ difficult gives a vast improvement, 80% or better. Neither HY/ normal (worse than the 6k), HY/difficult nor general/normal worked. Only general/ difficult. I can highly recommend these settings for everyone struggeling with hot rocks and it allowed smooth detecting in the worst hot rock conditions that I have ever encountered. Despite the tamed down machine I managed to recover a few small pickers in the 0.1 g range (not worthwile showing). This is a good example of how the 7000 with its settings can save the day. Here my exact settings: NF-Zsearch, general/difficult, sens 11, smoothing off, gb semi auto, other settings are default.

GC

Good discussion guys. I think there is big difference in what "pulse" means for both PI and ZVT. For regular PI machines there is an "off time" for receiving (hence the word pulse) whereas for ZVT the term "pulse" refers to just switching the pole of the magnetic field while continuously transmitting  (no off-time). Hence, in my view the 7000 is not a PI machine in it's conventional definition and should not be called as such. In contrast, the 6000 is still a "conventional" PI (with off times in between pulses for receiving), so the same advantages (or shall I say differences) that ZVT has over PI will remain in effect when comparing the 7000 with the 6000. This is the reason why I don't think the king trophy discussion makes much sense, both detectors are really so different. Now, when it comes to all the other stuff (weight, ergonomics, coil variety, easiness of use for beginners, etc.) then you can call the 6000 a king. You can also call it king (or god...!) if your primary focus is super fast timing gold in shallow to medium depth ground. However, the ZVT technology will always have distinct advantages that will not be reached by any conventional PI machine and the 7000 could equally be called king, just in a different kingdom. Even with a newer GPZ version released the differences between PI and ZVT will remain fundamental, hence the 6000 will likely remain king in it's kingdom, even after the "GPZ 8000" has been released. In summary, ZVT is not an old obsolete technology and calling it outdated is simply not accurate (IMHO). Just my 2 ct.

GC  

As much as I enjoy the 6000 for all the reasons stated, I still very much like the versatility the 7000 has to offer. GB-modes, gold-modes, filtering, threshold volume/volume, etc, all of it is missing on the 6000. Of course, the easiness of use comes in handy in particular for detecting beginners. However, I at times prefer to choose the settings for a given location and not let the machine pick for me. This reminds me a bit of cameras. They have fantastic point and shoot cameras nowadays, but does it really make the advanced high end Nikon (or Canon...) models obsolete?

"GPX-6000 NEWEST TECHNOLOGY – Who wants to use a 7 yr old cell phone (GPZ-7000)."

Gerry, as for ZVT, do you really think this is old stuff from yesterday and obsolete? As smart as geosense is, I still think ZVT has a lot to offer and should not be completed dismissed. After all, the 7000 is still ML's flagship detector. IMHO, I don't think it makes much sense to compare the 6000 with the 7000. Both are different machines with different underlying technologies, each having their strengths and weaknesses. I can see why advanced users still continue to value the 7000, me included. Assuming the 7000 would be as ergonomically advanced and as light as the 6000, and would have the desired coil versatility, would that alone not make the 7000 a much better match, even though using the "7 year old technology"? All this being said, if I today had to award a king trophy it would for sure go to the 6000.  This detector is an absolute delight and would absolutely earn this title, all things considered.

GC

2 hours ago, Lunk said:

As evidenced by this thread, the demand for a small DD coil appears to be high; I would certainly purchase one, and I know other operators who would too. So Trevor, hopefully soon you can change your post above to read, “GOLDHAWK DD coils coming soon!”

Completely agree. Actually, I would have preferred a 12 inch DD in the box, not a 14 one. But for sure a smaller DD would be the best selling after market 6k coil. I am actually surprised that neither NF nor Coiltek seem to have it on top of their list (unless I am mistaken). Some technical issues perhaps?

GC

I have tried several different models and none of the plastic tactical boots were up for the rough terrain where I hunt. Practically all of them, including those that I bought on respected prospecting websites and that were advertised as robust, disintegrated after a few weeks in rocky mountain terrain (cracked plastic, glue comes off the soles, etc...) My friend Bill Southern recommended these ones to me and indeed they are the only ones that are up for the task from at least a half dozen models I tried. (at least IMO).  They are 99% metal free including zipper, the only metal part is the little zipper pull tab (for whatever reason). But this has no impact on the 6000 nor the 7000 even when run super hot. They are comfy and provide excellent ankle support. I can highly recommend them. Sourdough Scott, what Reebok boot model did you have? Mine are absolutely fine and I have not the problems that you are describing.

GC

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BFAC3O0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&th=1&psc=1

RP is a world on its own. Either you hate it or you love it. It is a very impressive and intense landscape but can be unforgiving. I have done the best there with the 7000. It's a vast open land, so unless you know exactly where to look a very small coil might not be something I would personally recommend.

GC

Great post, Randy, and congrats to your beautiful collection. 100-105 deg F is my limit too. I still try to do some detecting under these conditions but I will remain very close to my truck with frequent breaks. Let me know when you come up here and I will take you to the high Sierra's. Looking forward to catch up my friend!

Best, GC

Bill is a good friend of mine. He and Tammy are genuinely honest and good people and their channels are the real deal. Bill is not only a very fine detectorist with decades of experience and mentored by then man himself (Jim Straight), but he also loves the desert just as much as I do. Always fun to hang out with him and whenever he brings me to his secret spots the gold goddess is smiling.

GC

2 hours ago, Norvic said:

Go outside that square in your search sometimes, do some fringe swinging, it can be rewarding.

And don't forget the most important thing: start your prospecting day with a good espresso 😍

GC

6 minutes ago, GotAU? said:

Hope to see smaller versions of the 14” soon!

Thanks, GotAu. The 14 inch is pretty big for small washes, I even had a struggle with the 12 NF. But as you say, let's hope smaller DDs will be on the upcomimg coil list. I will definitly try it out however. Good to know that it works for you.

GC

42 minutes ago, Lunk said:

GC, just wondering if you tried the 6k with the DD coil in that environment? I had great success running the older GPX machines with a DD coil in cancel mode (just like the 6k DD in EMI cancel) in the volcanics of the El Paso Mountains. The conductive ground cancel may work as well.  

Hi Lunk, no unfortunately i did not have the 14DD with me. But for sure I will try next time, good advice. I vaguely remember that you suggested that before. My bad that I haven't tried it yet 😁.

GC

9 minutes ago, Norvic said:

GC good stuff, ah ha I`m still on the honeymoon with the 6K, scraps forever but good fun.

Ty Norvic. I have been in the 6k/scraps business for quite some time now, so that little bigger one I found with the 6k was a welcomed distraction (trend I hope....). 

GC

5 hours ago, VicR said:

Maybe mine being from the first production batch had more production quality inspections - nothing worse for a company than a new product release following by an avalanche of quality issues.

Mine was first US batch (first 10 to arrive). Only had the error message once thus far. No big deal.

GC

19 minutes ago, Norvic said:

Trust GC your 6K troubles are small, suggest a light wipe with a wee methylated spirit on battery conxs. now and again , even the Z requires this on occasions but not as often (GPS, Hand-held radios etc also) remember the SDC C cells, dust being the culprit I suspect.

Thanks, Norvic. Good advice. And I am not worried at all. Every tech has some minor issues every now and then and needs some wiping/cleaning (unless Mars rover I guess......). But right after the restart I found a little 0.7g picker. I guess the machine wanted to say sorry and made up for it. I might like these faults...😁

GC

I got my first 6k error today. The warning sign was lit and there was a constant tone. Power button did not respond, so I had to pull the battery out, that fixed it. Thus far, it happened only once.

GC

I have to admit though that I have only used it a couple of times. So the problem might not have manifested itself yet, but I will keep an eye on it and let you know in case the problem appears.

GC

1 minute ago, phrunt said:

Out of interest what lot number are your Torus

21H1. I bought it around 3 weeks ago from amz.

GC

10 minutes ago, phrunt said:

I've noticed crackling and popping sounds on the GPX 6000 when connected using aptX low latency. 

I am sorry to hear. Mine works just fine. Thanks also for the customer care info. Interesting.

GC

10 hours ago, GotAU? said:

But it would also be like turning up the speed to high on the treadmill!

The 6k will miss targets when swinging to fast. Put the treadmill on low and you will pick up gold that you would otherwise have missed.😁For ground coverage, use the 17 but still swing slowly.

GC

For tick/bug protection I use permethrin pre-treated clothing, wear long sleeve shirt and long pants with pants tucked into my socks and covered in hiking boots. I wear a very thin hat that has ear/neck covering and that is also pretreated with permethrin. Then, before I start detecting  I spray 40% DEET all over my clothes and exposed skin (holding breath and not into eyes), and when it gets really bad I also wear a mosquito face net. This sounds extreme but I guarantee you nothing else will help where I hunt at times. Come and join me into the hot and humid North Yuba canyons, especially this time of the year. You will give up your natural lavender/lemon sprays quickly 😁

GC

54 minutes ago, strick said:

How effective? I could not find that info....

Looks pretty promising. Will be a three shot vaccination. 

https://valneva.com/press-release/valneva-announces-positive-initial-results-for-phase-2-study-of-lyme-disease-vaccine-candidate/

The first effective vaccine for Lyme disease is coming soon

GC

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/valneva-and-pfizer-report-further-positive-phase-2-data