Skate

3 hours ago, Jackpine said:

Blendy bleedy in a heavily polluted site never really worked for me.  What you guys are saying has me giddy like a young school girl. LOL

Yep there is no blend. When it chirps there is a reason. It's telling you something. 

2 hours ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

Skate,  Good to hear and see reports from you, as some of us know you are pretty good with other detectors and not Brand Loyal.  It is nice to hear (early reports) the NOX can do things our other machines can't and are finding targets our others miss.  I'm not saying the NOX is the Holy Grail, but it is new technology and those who get on sites sooner with it, learn the tricks...will be rewarded for their efforts.  I never expected a "wow look how deep" detector, but more of a "wow, how did I miss that" and "holy crap that is cool for it to be able to do that".  In the long run I feel the NOX will eventually be used by more hunters than many other machines of all brands.  Not saying the #1, but certainly better than most.  Keep it up my friend.

I’m in complete agreement with your observations. All the concerns about depth are irrelevant to me. It’s about what I’ve missed over the years that still sits in the ground. I’m tickled I found three nice silvers I had previously missed and that’s the point, the Equinox is giving me and others the chance to go back and get them out of the ground. 

Also I think it’s important to say that I’m not anti XP Deus or anti CTX but rather I’ve come to be “for” the Equinox. It’s not a zero sum game, it’s not black and white. I had zero intentions of selling my other two detectors before this Monday but to be honest I really can’t see myself using them anymore given the type of hunting I do. That doesn’t mean anyone else should and I’m not saying your XYZ machine is not as good as the Equinox either. 

Anyone interested in a couple of used detectors ?? 

3 minutes ago, bado1 said:

Excellent report, Skate! 

My first hunt was much the same as yours... minus the two silvers ( I did find a silver plated spoon). In 2.5 hours I found 50 non ferrous targets most of which were coins! Super trashy site. The Equinox is unbelievably fast. When the threshold is brought up (Park 2) you truly can hear everything in the ground including the nulls in the threshold from disc'ed iron. I'm looking forward to my next hunt.

 

Dean

Awesome job! I'm just curious. Do you feel like you hear things differently with the Nox? 

4 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

Skate - Great report and follow up but this part is really interesting to me.  I don't want to turn this into a Deus vs Equinox thread because this is not the forum so if you feel more comfortable just PMing me with a response, but I have to ask since you put it out there.  I have too always thought of the Deus as a machine that will tell me practically everything conductive that is in the ground, ferrous to silver, up to it's depth limit.  However, I found there is no one mode that allows this with the Deus.  To "hear" everything I basically need to hit a spot 3 ways - Full tones, with no discrimination, Gold Field with no Iron Reject, and then if I want to leave the iron in the ground I can use a discriminating pitch program to unmask non-ferrous targets hiding amongst the iron.  I have recently found that the HF round coil works best at this.  I always felt I was running partially "blind" with multi-tones and any discrimination.  It appears you are getting the same "feeling" (in reverse) by running your Equinox over a familiar site that you have pounded with the Deus.  My question is simply this, how did you have the Deus set up when you were clearing your park area and what type of coil were you using.  Knowing this will give me an idea of how the Equinox "hears everything".  Not having run time with Equinox, I am obviously not in a position where I am willing to say that I am rocking Noxtradamus all the way and selling the Deus.  I always planned to keep the Deus after the Equinox arrives because I think it still has some fringe capabilities that the Equinox may lack at very high frequencies and still like the low profile and light weight allows room for my Pez dispenser of Advil while not having to eat as much of it.  But you and TNSS are really finding some things out about the Equinox that eclipse the Deus in ways I thought the Deus could not be eclipsed.  Primarily in ability to separate ferrous and non-ferrous targets.  As primarily a relic hunter, this capability is important to me.  So I just want to make sure I am on the same page with you on how you wielded the Deus.  Thanks.

I was running the Deus in 14.4 V4 5 tones. It's Andy's program. I also ran it in 28.8 but never higher. Reactivity set at 1. Using the 9.5 elliptical. This is going to sound kind of weird but the Deus sounds linear but the Equinox to me reports things to your brain differently. I found a barber dime today that had iron on the left and aluminum on the right from the angle that I could hear it. Each signal was repeatable in the row when I swept it with the coil. It was like the right side of my brain heard the aluminum, the middle part heard the barber and the left side of my brain heard the iron. 

I also don't want this to become an Equinox vs Deus thing as the deus does many things well and I'm pretty proficient with it. To me it just was at it's limits and the coins I found were beyond the deus to find. What I love about Steve's forum is it isn't about detector wars but folks learning. I'm looking forward to you getting yours because I think you're going to be amazed and I'll benefit as a result. 

The merc was found about 3 inches down with a pull tab right next to it. I've been over that spot with so many other detectors myself and yet there it was. It was masked all this time and as I took the time to investigate the signal the tone got clearer and the ID read a consistent 26-27. I was saying to myself "I bet this is a silver dime, Steve's diagram says so." Then the next thing you know out pops the merc. It was really a sight to see. The 1940 silver quarter rang loud and clear in another area of pull tabs but the VDI was a little more spaced (31-35) and I figure that's because it was deeper.

Another thing that may or may not be helpful to hunters is that the Nox hears everything in the ground. In contrast with my XP deus, it heard lots of things but even it seemed to lack the separation that the Nox has. To me, more separation means you hear more things. I'd been trying to clean up an area of my park over the past 4 months of any and all targets so that when i got my nox and ran over it I could look for deep and true targets. Much to my surprise what I thought my deus had cleared the nox just revealed more of. To me this means that in places you've previously hunted out with other machines you likely have, you've probably reached those machines capacity in that area. I think it must be the multi-frequency that opens up these older areas at least that is what it appears to me to be. 

I wish I was more technical minded as maybe I would understand it better and be able to relay it to you in a cleaner way. I think the average hunter is going to have fun but the serious hunter is going to be on fire. Today will be a good test for it as I move to an area where it used to be a farm camp of old small homes from the early 1900's that have long been bulldozed and gone and is now a nursery. I've hunted it for 6 years now and I always pull something out of the ground amongst the iron and trash. Hopefully I'll thinkk the nox is still all that after getting out there. 

That ring is amazing. That is likely extremely collectible and rare. I'd trade a gold ring for that babe ruth ring any day. That's historical treasure. 

I got mine today. It is together and is currently in my garage charging. I put it next to my deus so it could taunt it. My excal II is sulking in the corner knowing it's probably going to be sitting there a while. Life is good. 

Love the watch. That's a beauty right there. 

Very cool. I get mine on Monday but I have a stupid mentor teacher meeting from 4-7 that I can't get out of so no chance to get to the beach until Tuesday. Did the gold tone match up with your air testing done before? I'm just curious how similar the tones are in the air and wet sand. 

13 minutes ago, NuggetBuddy said:

So how long have you had your MI-6?

since the end of September. It's worked flawless to this point. 

3 hours ago, NuggetBuddy said:

Thank's everyone for your feedback. So... all roads at this point are "pointing" to the Garrett Pro-Pointer AT, but for a really weird reason; the fact that it's bright orange. At some point, I'm going to set this thing down and forget it, or its going to fall off my tool vest without me knowing it. The bright orange is just going to make all that much easier to recover. HOWEVER...    

... this does concern me. How did you own them before they started to fail?

 

6-8 months. I hunt a lot though but I’m not particularly hard on my equipment. My ground is not mineralized like others according to my detectors I use. Garrett’s are great but I’ve had better results with my MI6 and the 90 hours run time is key for me. No running into 7/11 to spend $5 on a 9v because I forgot to check on the battery. 

I really like MI6 from XP. The battery has a 90 hour limit (never verified by me just going by what I've read) and is waterproof like all the others. I have never paired mine to my Deus but I don't feel like I need to. I've used the Garrett's before and each one (black/orange) began to false over time. So far all is good with the MI6. 

Same here that is a great find. Thrill of a lifetime for sure

41 minutes ago, Dan(NM) said:

 

 

Believe it or not, but in 9 hrs of hunting, I haven't dug a zinc yet :)

You're just not trying hard enough yet. 

Thats a great hunt. If you could do that every time you hunted you could move that retirement date up a bit. 

Steve is this generations EF Hutton. When Steve speaks, you better listen. 

I haven't hit the beaches in Ventura/Oxnard for two weeks. I was hoping that today's wind shift to an onshore flow might bring the surf up to grab some sand. I've been holding off going out there until I get my nox. Hopefully it will be soon. I'm supposed to get mine with this next shipment. 

1 minute ago, JP.Diggzzit said:

I received my Equinox 600 today. Bought from Cabelas, dropped shipped from Minelab Americas (Naperville, Illinois). 6 business days delivered (4 - 7 days quoted). I bought aptx earbuds and headphones from Amazon (2 days delivered). Hoping to get out with it tomorrow after work for a quick hunt. 

Awesome!! I hope you clean up out there!

5 hours ago, Thegoldenone said:

Cabelas did not have a back order list, it was first come first serve!

Right but if i had bought one from them and paid while they were out of stock wouldn't they have filled my order first? I never completed the order but I went all the way to the point of entering my CC info on a couple of occasions in January. 

I'd say the pre-orders are over and now it's just simply a case of supply and demand. Most of us are still waiting for our pre-order but anyone who ordered after the release are now a product of capitalism at it's extreme. 

In hindsight the smart thing would have been to order from Cabelas initially and gotten on their backorder list. I think if I had done that initially I'd be swinging one now. 

So here's a stupid question.

Where do old houses or old foundations fit in? What would you use to hunt an older home site? Park 1 or park 2 or would an old homesite require Field 1 or Field 2? 

Sorry if this has been answered before. 

The power of observation is not to be take lightly. I think when they finally find Fenn's treasure there will be much gnashing of teeth as it will likely have been hidden in plain sight. 

Great story and I hope to be on the end of cache before my time is up. 

It takes a real man to admit a mistake like that  The first time I took the deus to the beach with the 9.5 on it I had failed to match the puck on my headphones to the coil. The problem was I didn't know I had to do that so I used the speaker on the remote. 

I hope to get my equinox sometime this week. Good to hear you are enjoying it especially on the beach. If it works for me like it seems to for everyone else I'll be thinning the herd again. At only $800 I think I'd like one to keep in each car.