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  1. On 11/29/2022 at 12:40 PM, Gerry in Idaho said:

    If all goes well, I will be sharing pictures of Manticore finds from in the salt water.  Hurry up Santa, Gerry's Detectors has places to go.  He also has customers patiently waiting.  It looks as if the wait time could be pre Christmas for a few.  Let's just hope us dealers get a good allotment of units the 1st few rounds.

    I look forward to your water review.  Do ya know if those crappy yellow phones were upgraded?  I sure hope so.  For the price we should get an option… or it’s an added cost.   As an old smart screen user and CTX user I really like the add.  You almost never dug a bottle cap you didn’t want to.  Side by side targets not IDed properly it helped there too.   Not quite dive ready.  ML hasn’t introduced a new flagship machine …. These machines are out performing their current one.  I’m waiting because of price to see how it performs in the salt water…. Hopefully not a lot of reduction to have it run smoothly and transition in the surf is good.  Really want to see in the near surf how it does on those difficult gold pieces.

  2. Targets pool this time of year.  We have a much larger tide swing and winds start coming out of the North.  These negative tide cause more waves at low tide hitting th built up sand dune or rises.  Good to hunt by watching the wave line in the water … just it front of it you get a lot of movement and you tell the cut ins best.

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  3. Sooooo how’s the hunting going?   Not been out much but the red tide was out a bit.  I heard someone had a heart attack on one beach because of it.  Tomorrow maybe a beach day to see if it’s moved …. Heard it was all the way up to Holmes beach.  As far as the ring it was a giveback with no reward ugh.  Personally that diamond had to be awfully awfully good because the ring was very simple

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  4. On 11/1/2022 at 5:07 PM, The_Stalker said:

    I was able to get to the beach for three days last week.  It should have been 7 days but appointments and dinner engagements made that impossible.  Targets were not very deep and I was suprised to see competition on the beach.  I guess everyone thought the hurricane earlier would cause opportunity.  Here is the picture of the final digs.image.thumb.jpeg.de8749a872421459d4be421fbd5e0990.jpeg

    Are those cobs?  Dats a lot of digging … but some nice heavies.  You don’t always get what you might expect from these storms.  Sometimes a month after will surprise you.

  5. I use the tones only after locating a target….. I prefer not to hear all the distracting tones when it falses much like any other machine when it’s maxed out.  I prefer the quick pops to the pings and pongs.  I’m not a numbers guy especially since there can be a lot of bounce with a sensitive machine 

    lot of targets dug… oh my aching back 😂.   Nice batch of heavy targets too. Was the cross gold?  

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  6. Take a mole hole or any disturbed soil…. many detectors don’t function well.  They can even see a dug hole rather than the target at the bottom.  When moisture is removed the ground becomes pores signals get weaker because water and salt tends to light up targets … a good bit from target bleeding

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  7. Are you using the standard over the 12" coil?  Its helped me over the years to concentrate more on less depth..... meaning turn your sensitivity down and work between the trash.  Ive went over areas with settings fairly hot..... then with them pretty mild and found i was hitting more old silver i just didnt know was there.  Im not a fan of the pings and pongs, something i hope gets changed.   No one machine is good for every site either..... switch to a faster response machine that may have a smaller coil.

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  8. On 8/31/2022 at 2:51 PM, Denny said:

    Tarsacci goes deep but audio is terrible.  
    Once had a issue where I could not turn off machine and had issues with machine resetting itself.  Sent back to Dimitar to get it checked. He said he found nothing wrong.   Machine still reset itself on one occasion when I got it back.    Not worth the $1500 price I paid.   I now use the Deus2 and finding more success with it compared to tarsacci which started out great but faded fast. 
    Yes, XP Deus2, legend and Manticore  will slow sales of Tarsacci.

    Denny ….it sound like an issue me and Cliff had initially.   It’s not making contact.  Remove the screw to the plate and put a thin SS washer behind it.  It didn’t help when someone released a video with more standard tones….. I think we all liked them MUCH better.  

    to answer Steve’s question…. absolutely.  It’s real competitive with all the U-Tubers/influencers who wants to be the first to introduce a new machine.  New machines is like chum to sharks.  Right now …. There are some very good choices for someone wanting a multi use machine ….that may do other types of hunting only occasionally but like me needs a good niche machine as well.

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  9. On 8/31/2022 at 7:03 AM, Dancer said:

    The machine has done very well for me where I can take it.   The biggest advange for me being water proof, and very dependable.   No drips no leaks no send backs.    I truly believe take all the machines mentioned above (including Tarsacci) on most any beach.    The biggest difference in overall finds will because of       1.   the hunter     2. luck         As in all good hunting   it's the site, the hunter , than the machine  that counts.      Gold and Silver started drying up a while back, now  finding  coins on most beaches is getting horrible.    Ain't no machine gonna fix that.    

    It's true though lack of marketing is a mystery.

    Very spot on.  It’s a niche machine to me for water hunting.  Some I know have already moved on to the newer multi use machines…. But they still have the machine.  Partly because they aren’t easy to sell much like an aqua sound that got some what popular here years back.  It’s difficult if you don’t have a crew to make changes quickly and can’t do updates by computer.  Some things needs to be changed but there is a bit of resistance maybe because it can’t be updated and of course there is the cost.  Much like a PI for beach hunting….  Not as many want to use them even thou they are deep.  I’ve sold all my machines but the MDT and I’m keeping an eye on the new ones.  The future is hear …. Most everyone wants a multi use machine…. It’s a matter of which will serve their purpose.

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  10. “It's build quality and waterproofing has been improved, significantly”

    This is yet to be determined IMO.   I honestly don’t think the Nox was tested in the water… it was assumed the sealed casing and universal IP ratings made it waterproof.  If it’s being made in the same factory using the same mode process with the same quality control…. Then it’s a wait and see for the water guys.

    ML has very good marketing staff.  Well played on waiting hoping to do the same thing the Nox did…. Stall all sales of other detectors.  But this times …. I’m not sure it will work with the quality of machines out there.

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  11. SteveG I agree with you on a lot of that Ferr/con.  I more often than not watched that smart screen then checked out the con digit.  We all learned the silver tinkle watched deep coins like nickels move to points no where near an air test coin.  Took me some time to realize what weak targets were… I really gained a lot of depth once it clicked.

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  12. So are there videos of it in the water with the screen about a foot down?   Wondering how they set it up, how it moved (Tom already said those fins displace more water) and how much water comes out of that speaker?  I’ve always plugged those.  

    that cuff had best be good because it’s not likely an aftermarket one will be out soon.  So with a sliding cuff and no screws/button spring clip…. The end of that shaft could have been used for a cheaper larger battery that doesn’t take but a few hours to charge.

    that extra power could come in handy in the water here in Fl.  Once the coil hits the salt water it more about the saline than EMI.

  13. On 9/1/2022 at 7:03 AM, steveg said:

    Dew -- I assume you are considering a Manticore, at LEAST to fill in as your "new" backup to the MDT?  Better waterprooofing (if true) should be right up your alley...


    I for one never had a water issue with my Nox…. and mine got wet.  I consider any detector that can get used in the water.  I wasn’t happy getting it thou and they didn’t even have waterproof headphones for months which told me it hadn’t been tested much.  So Tony made me phones and I tested um.  Seems I’ll be able to use them.   ML knows what their issues were… let’s hope all were fixed.  Not sure why they couldn’t waterproof more like the Deus and their warranty didn’t increase.   I assume Steve you are working on a new shaft?  I always like ML so if 90% of the development did go toward the dirt guy on this one for here in Fl it may be a good beach machine as well

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  14. 8 minutes ago, steveg said:

    I believe I have seen Mark Lawrie say "50% more power going to the coil," than the Equinox, and Tom Dankowski said that if you somehow were to wire an Equinox coil up to connect to the Manticore, you would essentially "blow out the coil."  So, I am fairly sure it's just all a "marketing gimmick."

    (Just to note, I am NOT saying 50% more depth, nor 25% more depth, nor even 10% more depth...of course not; I'm just saying that there is apparently 50% more power going to the coil, and not just a marketing gimmick where the extra power is going to the backlight, keypad, flashlight, etc. -- each of which probably use very little power, i.e. flashlight being LED, etc.)



    Steve I read that as well from Tom.  He also mentioned Carl ant that 50% would equate to less than 7% increase in depth.  I get good depth here in Fl so I’m more concerned with eliminating EMI and TID especially at depth.  Obviously here most are recent drop hunting and getting 10” means they get a good many of them. There also comes a time when gold targets are just beyond reach no matter the machine.

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  15. On 8/28/2022 at 2:53 PM, V3i/MXT Pro said:

    Does anyone else feel like the coil ears/stem seem over engineered? Why not just add 1mm in thickness to the traditional ears and call it a day? Kind of seems like reinventing the wheel.

    I thought the same.  Then I thought humm they just transferred that ear breaking to us having to buy lower shafts. Hopefully it not a stiff build… because water guys tend to use the machine to balance themselves in ruff water.   One of the reasons I run in AM in the water is because I’m just looking for target … once found then I have to determine… is it something to dig.  I don’t run disc because things change… the salt, very tiny concentrations of metal, hard pan and black sand and EMI.  Some try to just disc it out rather than adjust the settings.

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  16. On 8/27/2022 at 12:39 AM, Steve Herschbach said:

    Looks like a nice detector that will fit neatly into the hole left in the Minelab product line, by the now departed $1549 E-TRAC. If it hits that price point, it will be an apples to apples competitor for the $1599 DEUS II. I took the D2 for a spin, but with 90% or more of my detecting hours being behind a PI, I decided to just be happy with Equinox, and to do my best to ignore any new VLF tech that comes along. Which is what I am doing with Manticore.

    I did much the same thing …. I sold all but my MDT and Nox.  I kept the Nox as a back up because I never had a leak AND I thought I might do some dirt digging one day.  But then my batteries died and I had some handle bolt cracking.  Got a new box and sold it.  I’ve always been a fan of the old explorers and the CTX…. will this machine bring back the silver “tinkle”?  

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  17. From a water guy’s perspective as was mentioned those braces displace a lot of water especially with a lot of current.  I like the upgraded shaft.  About time they improved their locks and got rid of the aluminum.  Tho again I wonder will we get this $155 crappy yellow phones?   I normally put a nylon sticker over the external speaker since I never use it.  Ears on the lower shaft…. Hummm.  I don’t know that that will be an improvement over just making their ears thicker.  We tend to balance ourselves with the machine when getting beat around out there scooping.  After a year or so …. set your detector straight up and you may see it leaning in one direction.   I’d like to see one batter in the back of the shaft like the MDT…. Easy to swap at $5.  I really like what I’m seeing on the screen.   Now salt balance?  With the added 50% increase in power (which is about what you get from beach 2 to beach 1) a salt balance would quite it down out there.

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  18. When I first seen it I was wondering if they had went to an explorer style battery set up moving it to th back of the shaft.   I never us my external speaker so I always put a large vynal sticker over it.  Salt water and sand does crazy things to equipment.  Huge improvement in that shaft.  Thou I’m not sure about the coil connector ears being attached to the lower shaft yet.

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  19. Cliff is likely reading the posts.  He’s had the Deus for awhile now.  Summer seems to be a big silver time with all the teens.  Hopefully it will turn to gold.  Seems like a lot are chasing give backs…. Maybe for a recovery fee.  

    as far as how the chains sound…. Any target you can hear sounds good in AM.   Depth is always a guess in the water.  The bad chain was definitely deeper and thinking back had a higher reading like 17.  In the dime range…. But some targets do upscale.  I’ve not found gold to be one of them.

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  20. My last two hunts netted me gold and yellow.   The chain on the scale is 24”, 14k marked and tested, weight as shown.  Finally found a pair of gold earrings in the water … but of course they were plated.  Few deep quarters and 2 more junk chains.  

    The next week …. It was this stuff that really looks good in the scoop.   I knew right away that ring was bad news….. but the chain and earring was looking good as I quickly tucked them in my pouch.  But nope …. More junk.  The necklace was open so I detected around and about 3’ away got a 1X1” dangle with a C…. That looked really good but tested really bad.



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